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albakr0ss

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Calm down a little on the ethical and scientific discussion of NTR guys thread might get closed again right before new update drops haha
 

sageproduct

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The only scientific explanation is the millennia of cultural and social suppression of women. Glad it changes bit by bit. Who tf wants an inexperienced dummy with no free will? If someone does, it's a rhetorical question—I don't want to know. That's why Suguha for PM! The William Wallace among NTR heroines. :ROFLMAO:
No, the explanation is that women with low self-esteem seek a man they can relate to. Most women are vastly insecure

Same reason why some men are wild for women with daddy issues

Calm down a little on the ethical and scientific discussion of NTR guys thread might get closed again right before new update drops haha
kkk that's true I need to mention then Asuna is so fucking hot wtf
 

Shikolek

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NOT speaking in scientific terms, the woman takes as a partner a reflection of what her father was like, that is, if in her family her father was a bully or fought with her mother, she will unconsciously look for a quarrelsome partner or the other way around if the one who wore the pants at home was the mother, she will look for someone more submissive to show her dominance, and in cases where the mother was single and raised her children alone, the woman will obviously look for someone who is like a father figure, in this last case it is seen couples with an age difference of as much as 5 or 10 years, this has been the case for thousands of years, although it does not always happen depending on how the woman grows and if her mother has taught her since she was a child. You've already seen what Asuna's family is like, so get an idea of what she's like and what she's looking for.

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Oh yes, science!
 

Dragonsha09

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I recently got bug, in part one when Asuna got kidnapped then inoda and kirito when to rescue her my game got freeze when Asuna tied up scene occurred. any solution?
 

4-kun

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Wait, you truly never come across an NTR game with a fmc, or an NTR where the fmc steals the male lead from the female lead? Or where the female lead is the one that's being cucked? Because one of those are rarer than others. Because there are tons of NTR with fmcs. They are pretty formulaic.
Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those. :LOL:
 
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apollo261299

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The game still has the big problem BUG in reviewing the Log and then lost the conversation , once or 2 times to reroll to get back normal . It is really annoyed . Hopefull in Future the bug will be fixed
 

eldorado14

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Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those. :LOL:
I see. Yeah, that one is unheard of, to be honest. I don't think ı encountered this particular scenario in porn games. It's not a popular fetish among male demography when it comes to NTR games.
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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Actually, now that I think about it, my statement was a bit misleading, I guess. I was referring to my previous message, specifically an NTR female lead like Suguha in this game, where the player plays as a FMC who actively NTRs couples. I didn't mean the more obvious NTR FMC scenario, where they just end up being corrupted away from their love interest. I'm well aware of those. :LOL:
I see. Yeah, that one is unheard of, to be honest. I don't think ı encountered this particular scenario in porn games. It's not a popular fetish among male demography when it comes to NTR games.
This is probably because it kinda loses a lot of the 'spirit' of NTR, even Reverse NTR kinda loses its point here because it doesn't feel like the FMC would be 'winning' anything, it's basically just a slut MC who happens to target couples XD

Suguha's plot here works because both here and even in the source material she DOES have feelings for Kirito, and in both she had more or less accepted that he was happy with Asuna and just lived her life fine with that (Granted in the Fujinoverse she never actually made peace with those/got heartbroken like in Canon because Fujino twisted the fuck out of the timeline and made non-stop plot holes to somehow have Sugou's events have happened WITHOUT Sugu's involvement lol), but then thanks to her 'corruption' she just went full-on Yandere and decided to take him for herself. It works so well because there WAS an emotional attachment between the characters before she even 'snapped', so there is several layers of corruption, from Suguha's own love, one-sided as it was, to her actual relationship with her Onii-chan who kept seeing her as his beloved sister and doesn't know she's riding his dick and daydreaming of getting rid of his girlfriend to have him all to herself one day whenever he's online XP

Granted, the 'feeling' is a bit diminished given that she got not-NTR-ed first and also because the girlfriend in question is an unsatisfied slut who prefers the ugly bastard's dick already, but her having gotten free of Hebishima to get here in the first place already makes it very interesting in itself. However in a 'perfect' Reverse NTR scenario, Sugu would just snap or decide to get Kirito by herself one day without needing to be not-stolen first, and Asuna would legit be perfectly in love and loyal to Kirito so the Reverse NTR is actually 'fully realized' (Is kinda like why you won't really see a 'NTR' doujin where the MC is actually just fucking other girls behind his stolen girlfriend's back, because that would make most people feel it never was NTR at all).
 

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I see. Yeah, that one is unheard of, to be honest. I don't think ı encountered this particular scenario in porn games. It's not a popular fetish among male demography when it comes to NTR games.
Yeah, that's what I mean. I've never come across those kinds of NTR games, which is still weird to be honest, because content-wise it wouldn't necessarily be much different. Even if we take this game as an example and let's say make Liz the FMC, she could still push Asuna towards Inoda and probably other guys, while herself going for Kirito. I just think it could open up many possibilities for refreshing storytelling. I kinda hope that Fujino will further explore this path with the side characters in this game.
 
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eldorado14

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Yeah, that's what I mean. I've never come across those kinds of NTR games, which is still weird to be honest, because content-wise it wouldn't necessarily be much different. Even if we take this game as an example and let's say make Liz the FMC, she could still push Asuna towards Inoda and probably other guys, while herself going for Kirito. I just think it could open up many possibilities for refreshing storytelling. I kinda hope that Fujino will further explore this path with the side characters in this game.
You have to remember that NTR fans can be into sadomasochism, so the suffering and humiliation of the MC adds to the experience a lot. You can see this from the fact that when ending votes happen in most NTR games, happy ending nearly never wins, because happy MC that still has a girl doesn't really add to that experience.
 
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4-kun

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You have to remember that NTR fans can be into sadomasochism, so the suffering and humiliation of the MC adds to the experience a lot. You can see this from the fact that when ending votes happen in most NTR games, happy ending nearly never wins, because happy MC that still has a girl doesn't really add to that experience.
Yeah, I know, but I don't see a reason, why the suffering shouldn't be applied on Asuna. To me, it doesn't make much of a difference who is suffering, be it male or female. :LOL:
 

4-kun

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This is probably because it kinda loses a lot of the 'spirit' of NTR, even Reverse NTR kinda loses its point here because it doesn't feel like the FMC would be 'winning' anything, it's basically just a slut MC who happens to target couples XD

Suguha's plot here works because both here and even in the source material she DOES have feelings for Kirito, and in both she had more or less accepted that he was happy with Asuna and just lived her life fine with that (Granted in the Fujinoverse she never actually made peace with those/got heartbroken like in Canon because Fujino twisted the fuck out of the timeline and made non-stop plot holes to somehow have Sugou's events have happened WITHOUT Sugu's involvement lol), but then thanks to her 'corruption' she just went full-on Yandere and decided to take him for herself. It works so well because there WAS an emotional attachment between the characters before she even 'snapped', so there is several layers of corruption, from Suguha's own love, one-sided as it was, to her actual relationship with her Onii-chan who kept seeing her as his beloved sister and doesn't know she's riding his dick and daydreaming of getting rid of his girlfriend to have him all to herself one day whenever he's online XP

Granted, the 'feeling' is a bit diminished given that she got not-NTR-ed first and also because the girlfriend in question is an unsatisfied slut who prefers the ugly bastard's dick already, but her having gotten free of Hebishima to get here in the first place already makes it very interesting in itself. However in a 'perfect' Reverse NTR scenario, Sugu would just snap or decide to get Kirito by herself one day without needing to be not-stolen first, and Asuna would legit be perfectly in love and loyal to Kirito so the Reverse NTR is actually 'fully realized' (Is kinda like why you won't really see a 'NTR' doujin where the MC is actually just fucking other girls behind his stolen girlfriend's back, because that would make most people feel it never was NTR at all).
It depends. I would say Suguha, if she were the MC, could still undergo the same development, just with better storytelling for the first part. The MC also doesn't have to be a whore, as usually portrayed in NTR. She could be or just turn into a morally questionable person but still preserve herself for only one man. It's all a matter of how and what you want to portray. It would probably even make more sense, as you said that in the original, it is actually Kirito who is the horny one, so one could just reverse the sexual frustration situation. As I said, many undiscovered possibilities. :p
 

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This is probably because it kinda loses a lot of the 'spirit' of NTR, even Reverse NTR kinda loses its point here because it doesn't feel like the FMC would be 'winning' anything, it's basically just a slut MC who happens to target couples XD
You know, this is similar to what I think about a lot of NTR content where the heroine getting stolen gets corrupted into some sort of cum dump/ whore. To me, it kind of loses much of the appeal of the whole "stealing" part of the game, since most of the heroines gradually lose their worth the further they get corrupted.

Sure, it's fun to see a capable woman with strong abilities get fucked silly until she is pissing herself unconscious, but if she stops caring about anything else and is nothing more than a hole to get fucked by the end of the story, what did the man who fucked her get? Nothing more than a hole who used to be special.

There is nothing fun about stealing something worthless.

That's why my ideal NTR for SAO would be one where Asuna still was who she was by the end of it, but twisted by her lust over Inoda. At the very least, by appearances she should still be strong in the eyes of others while pathetic in the face of the ultimate power of a ntr universe, a big dick.
 
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