i think on paper the shinon and alice routes and corruptions would look wonderful and me myself would def enjoy seeing everything coming together at some point. but right now i would also much prefer see Asunas and Inodas progression.
I think the high moral standard comes from the feeling that “helping someone out” (even more so someone way beneath her) just supersedes any feeling of being a “good partner” to Kirito. Since if he doesn’t know and it doesn’t “take” away anything from him then she isn’t doing him any wrong. Other than the stormy night(s) she’s been able to justify all that’s happened thus far with her admittedly wild lapses of “it’s helping him/it can’t be helped”. Now that in current, she’s even gone so far as to recognize and admit “whatever happens online is separate” which again gives her an excuse “I’m just helping him”/“this isn’t real”
Yeah I think in general. The side routes are great on paper and once the whole game is finished will give the game more depth and overall a better feel. It legitimately just doesnt work when the game is done on an update by update progress kind of environment since progress here is seen as progress taken away from the main focus which majority of players are looking for. Look what happened in the update after the change, we literally speed ran progress and went from “harassment” in game to full on sex and even in front of the lover thing. This is literally going be seen as an abrupt tone shift once people who only play at the end ar going to realize and question.
i was also surprised on how fast this happened. i totally wasnt expecting this but i have to admit this scene was so sexy in the treehouse that i totally forgive this change of pace. to be honest i wouldnt want to wait for a whole year to see this happen. sooo... i cant say i hate this. tbf its still "only" in the virutal world, so there is a lot of space for virtual world interactions corruptions until the real life corruptions finds its final, then there will still be a full corruption where asuna complely forgets about kirito and cant live without inoda anymore
My ideal version of Asuna is one that at least portrays as closely as possible to the cannon Asuna. The cannon Asuna would require a slow gradual corruption rate through blackmail & coercion to successfully pull off and break. Like, the Asuna that Fujino portrays here is a pretty close second to what my preference is for Asuna to act. The only thing lacking is a slightly stronger will not wanting to break or be corrupted. The cannon Asuna wouldn't have been so easily duped into "helping" Inoda when his arm was injured for example, at least not to the point of tolerating his advances as if that's all it'd take was to manipulate her with guilt or making her feel bad for not accepting his advances. In fact, the cannon Asuna would feel more repulsed by Inoda making advances on her so fast and would've outright threatened him that if he tried something again she wouldn't hesitate to either cut him off completely or she'd tell Kirito what was going on.
i usually just reload when stuck, try to skip the dialogue at that part with w button, it will help prolly
yea i also like the version of fujino sensei. as i mentioned before i believe an even stronger willed asuna would have led for inoda to blackmail her somehow and that would firstly take away "friend-help-friend-victim" relationship they are having
Yeah, that's the thing. She, as a character, might lie, excuse, and justify everything and think of herself as a person with high moral values, but from the player's perspective, it doesn't change the fact that she is not. It's easy to prove, even without the rainy night "accident". Who would consider their girlfriend showing her titts, jerking off, etc. to a random guy a morally unquestionable act? That's what I'm saying; her character is not written as a pure maiden but as someone who thinks she is ^^
I'll be honest about another character though who plays a big part in Asuna's development with Inoda which kinda bothers me. It's Liz, her role in this entire thing is entirely out of character that she's used primarily for nothing more than to advance the Asuna NTR corruption plot. Liz was never this shady manipulative type, but this I can overlook because of course the focus is on Asuna, it just kinda bothers me because Liz's motives in this situation with her involvement is lacking motive for the player to understand.
When they are in the tent Liz and Inoda are actually talking about this, that Liz helps him with asuna so she can have kirito to herself.
The problem is that well-known franchises and slow-burn NTR don't work well together because whatever you come up with won't feel believable. You basically need to break the characters' personalities to make it work. While fast-paced works okay because nobody cares about story and believability there. ^^
I dislike the generic blonde dark skinned Gyaru-Oh (basically the "Male" version of a Gyaru character) characters too, it's a tad too overused.
Fujino already made it clear he wouldn't add Yui, she's in the same level of "exists but for some reason isn't around" that Silica, but even 'worse' because Fujino CAN'T add Yui to the game because if she had been around even once since the beginning then Inoda would have never been able to do anything to Asuna, nor would Asuna have found herself in any of the situations she did in-game because Yui would have prevented them all XD Is another plot-hole that the NTR world has to make you forcibly ignore, like the incongruency of the Fairy Dance Arc having happened yet NOT because Kirito apparently never met Leafa/Suguha in-game just so her confession couldn't have happened and her "not-NTR" plot could be justified XP
At the end of the day, any kinda enjoyment you can have of the 'NTR' aspect of this game has to come after acknowledging it's completely dumb and unrealistic for the characters to be involved in (Like how someone mentioned Suguha was drugged/blackmailed/raped, the irony is that this plot never would have actually worked if it happened in a world NOT running in NTR logic because Suguha would have never accepted going out with Hebishima in the first place no matter how much he begged, her completely and brutally rejecting a guy continuously without giving him the slightest chance is literally part of her Canon character arc, and she actually was kinda friends with that loser XD!).NGL dude, I think that last bit pretty much says that you may be more interested in just making an NTR game/situation than actually SAO NTR, if you literally don't care how any of the characters are written compared to their Canon self but still find it hot, you may as well just wanna use OCs instead :3?
Considering I hate SAO and also don't really care for NTR, I think Fujino's game is top tier overall, even given my previous hate for SAO. All praise Fujino.It may be easier for me to say that as someone that actually genuinely likes SAO and its characters, and doesn't really care for NTR but it's here because the Hentai is good and Fujino's work is honestly amazing, but the best thing to do is just enjoy what you like or not about the game, really, and praise Fujino-sama for his hard work
Indeed, that's the best way to go about it! Do I get annoyed or roll my eyes constantly at the portrayal/lack of logic as someone that actually like SAO stuff? Yeah, I do. Do I bitch about it online? No, I'm literally just playing the game because it's a surprisingly great source of high-quality SAO Hentai, and even as NTR and with all its plot-holes is still a million times better than the usual 15 page Asuna NTR doujin XP
Agreed, and even without Yui, nothing would happen in-game, simply because the fundamental aspect of SAO is that everything that occurs in VR is real for the MCs. That's another logic that was discarded for NTR purposes; none of the MCs would ever say that 'virtual doesn't count' because that would mean that Kirito's and Asuna's relationship, and all the other events that occurred there, don't count. If one wants to enjoy the story, it's better not to dwell on it, because even by the game's rules, it's a plot hole.
NTR WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE IN IT! NO ONE IS SAFE!! NOT EVEN GOD!!! *maniac laughing*Fujino already made it clear he wouldn't add Yui, she's in the same level of "exists but for some reason isn't around" that Silica, but even 'worse' because Fujino CAN'T add Yui to the game because if she had been around even once since the beginning then Inoda would have never been able to do anything to Asuna, nor would Asuna have found herself in any of the situations she did in-game because Yui would have prevented them all XD Is another plot-hole that the NTR world has to make you forcibly ignore, like the incongruency of the Fairy Dance Arc having happened yet NOT because Kirito apparently never met Leafa/Suguha in-game just so her confession couldn't have happened and her "not-NTR" plot could be justified XP
Also, man, everyone suddenly going into serious analysis of the characters and the seriousness/depth of the plot in the past 24 hours is kinda hilarious...people, the truth is, there is NOTHING at all even remotely accurate or realistic in Fujino's game about literally ANY of the SAO characters in the slightest, nor could it be justified at all, because if this was actually a faithful portrayal of SAO then nobody would ever be NTR-ed, Canon Asuna could never be "corrupted" nor would Kirito or his friends allow it because they're not the moronic twisted mockeries that this game has of them just so the "Almost Everything in this World Runs in NTR Logic" can work
It may be easier for me to say that as someone that actually genuinely likes SAO and its characters, and doesn't really care for NTR but it's here because the Hentai is good and Fujino's work is honestly amazing, but the best thing to do is just enjoy what you like or not about the game, really, and praise Fujino-sama for his hard work
