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I also agree with the above, there are many people who have a very limited mind when it comes to NTR stories, they need to expand more. Maybe many of Fujino's sponsors are due to their limited knowledge and most of them are from China or almost all of them. We have to expand the potential of the other characters, for example Suguha or Alice. but unfortunately those are limited that only focus on the idea of only INODA ASUNA and deception.
i will def pray for all those lost souls and that fujino will find his original pace again
 
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oh damn that actually sounds really good to see that. its unfortunate how the story could actually look like, but only a small percentage would actually go those lengths and give the story enough chances to finally find the treasure they have always wanted.
i will probably never touch those games, now that im old, but i will def keep this in mind if i will ever be in search for a good game.
btw is this turned based or real time action based?
Pretty much, yes, that's what made it so great for me :3 (Let's hope Fujino can also get such a chance XP)

They're real time action ones, but each one is slightly different in playability from the previous one because of many things, but like I said they're not that amazing as 'games' XD I actually even as an SAO fan would recommend just 2 things: Either illegally download them on your PC and use cheats to max out Kirito and everyone else from the get-go so you can just one-shot everything, or just simply watch one of the many full playthroughs online there are nowadays in YT, even with all the side-events, just remembering which game goes first and the like :p

If I had to bring up one of the things I liked the most of the Gameverse AU, it would be the first Gameverse Original Heroine, Strea, a girl that would have never fit in Canon SAO for how 'shitty cliche' her character archetype was yet still changed the whole group's dynamics in an hilarious and ever-lasting way...basically, we get a girl with tits the size of her head, a tendency to shove Kirito into them, almost as little shame as Lala from To Love-Ru yet with a hidden mischievous/cunning side that could be compared to Momo from the same series as rather than trying to steal Kirito from Asuna or arguing with her about it she's instead constantly trying to enable lewd moments between ALL the girls and him, with a mentality that probably deduced right away that if the Harem Ending became a thing she could also get Kirito-time herself XD

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BTW, did I mention she's technically Yui's "little sister"? Because her true identity is the MHCP-002, the second of the AIs created by Kayaba to monitor the mental health of SAO's players like the former was.

Sadly she has almost no H-content period because of how niche/disliked the SAO Gameverse is, which is a shame with how she's practically a Hentai wet dream even here, there is only some scattered lewd fanarts here and there and few of them are any good XP
 

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Last year I was hoping more devs will be inspired by Fujino's works, but here we are march 2024 and still no NTR games with the same level of quality in the NTR mystery department. Sad. :cry:
Oh i bet he has inspired a lot. My self included. But I'm still a long way off from being able to make somthin presentable, and I dont doubt a lot of others are in the same boat.
 
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Oh i bet he has inspired a lot. My self included. But I'm still a long way off from being able to make somthin presentable, and I dont doubt a lot of others are in the same boat.
Yupp, as for myself I'm somewhat learning how to use Blender with Koikatsu models & animations, along with Honey Select models & animations. I was thinking of using AI Shoujo models & animations as I'm pretty sure that that's the most recent character creation engine that Illusion made but at the moment I will put that one on hold.

I'm in the same boat of wanting to make things presentable as you said. Not only do I need to make my own RPGM MZ game tiles mapped to my own critiquing standards, I also need to learn more Paralax Lighting & special effects.

I have a lot to learn about RPGM MZ, especially how to fix any possible bugs & what-not.

Fujino definitely inspired a lot of this.
 

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Yupp, as for myself I'm somewhat learning how to use Blender with Koikatsu models & animations, along with Honey Select models & animations. I was thinking of using AI Shoujo models & animations as I'm pretty sure that that's the most recent character creation engine that Illusion made but at the moment I will put that one on hold.

I'm in the same boat of wanting to make things presentable as you said. Not only do I need to make my own RPGM MZ game tiles mapped to my own critiquing standards, I also need to learn more Paralax Lighting & special effects.

I have a lot to learn about RPGM MZ, especially how to fix any possible bugs & what-not.

Fujino definitely inspired a lot of this.
Even as someone who dislikes NTR and has 0 interest in making games, I can say without a doubt that Fujino is an inspiration to anyone, truly. The lengths he went through to continue making his games are honestly awe-inspiring :)
 

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I just finished anime season 1 and seems like ntr not avoidable even in anime :HideThePain:

I think it is their destiny or something lol
My dude, I know the concept of NTR has been prostituted so badly by doujins for the last decade that it's hard to properly use it anymore, but there is no actual NTR in SAO at all XD? There is attempted rape, but no NTR, lmao.
 
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My dude, I know the concept of NTR has been prostituted so badly by doujins for the last decade that it's hard to properly use it anymore, but there is no actual NTR in SAO at all XD? There is attempted rape, but no NTR, lmao.
Actually in the manga during Alicization, the attempt ceases to be an attempt. For the sake of not spoiling too much I won't mention in too much detail, but the part in the anime is heavily censored where Eugeo is in time to save his friends instead of being too late like in the manga. Ronye and Tiese were actually raped in the manga.

Also, I believe that there are several heavily censored parts that the anime changed compared to the manga.

edit: Sorry my bad, these are changes that were in the web novel when adapted to light novel & anime.
 
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My dude, I know the concept of NTR has been prostituted so badly by doujins for the last decade that it's hard to properly use it anymore, but there is no actual NTR in SAO at all XD? There is attempted rape, but no NTR, lmao.
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So rape is also part of NTR if there is couple / love interest etc.
 
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So rape is also part of NTR if there is couple / love interest etc.
NTR is used too much as a broad generalized blanket term, it's used incorrectly way too much.

To spare a lengthy explanation, Netorare is when a lover is "stolen" from their significant other, and by "stolen" the process is usually done through blackmail or slow gradual corruption.

People use NTR too much to mean too many things that it isn't. It's kinda sad.
 

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NTR is used too much as a broad generalized blanket term, it's used incorrectly way too much.

To spare a lengthy explanation, Netorare is when a lover is "stolen" from their significant other, and by "stolen" the process is usually done through blackmail or slow gradual corruption.

People use NTR too much to mean too many things that it isn't. It's kinda sad.
I know this. To briefly summarize, if there is a couple who loves each other and one of them is having a romantic or sexual relationship with a third person, this is NTR. The content of the relationship with this third person and the couple's perspective on the event constitute the sub-branches of NTR. Netorare, Netorase, Netori etc.

I see it on the forum. They even call the main character's parents' relationship NTR, which is ridiculous. But the scene I'm talking about in the SAO anime is definitely NTR.
 
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Actually in the manga during Alicization, the attempt ceases to be an attempt. For the sake of not spoiling too much I won't mention in too much detail, but the part in the anime is heavily censored where Eugeo is in time to save his friends instead of being too late like in the manga. Ronye and Tiese were actually raped in the manga.

Also, I believe that there are several heavily censored parts that the anime changed compared to the manga.

edit: Sorry my bad, these are changes that were in the web novel when adapted to light novel & anime.
You were already corrected, but yeah, the web novel got a lot of changes when it was re-adapted for official publication in the Light Novels (Which is what the anime is based upon). Alicization is where there were the most changes (From the number of I. Knights to things like the gender of the 'murder lolis' that almost got Kirito and Eugeo going up the Cathedral, in the web novel they were 2 boys), but there were tons across the whole series really, some of the most noticeable ones being the girls' feelings towards Kirito being a lot less blatant/intense in the Light Novels compared to the Web Novel XP

I know this. To briefly summarize, if there is a couple who loves each other and one of them is having a romantic or sexual relationship with a third person, this is NTR. The content of the relationship with this third person and the couple's perspective on the event constitute the sub-branches of NTR. Netorare, Netorase, Netori etc.

I see it on the forum. They even call the main character's parents' relationship NTR, which is ridiculous. But the scene I'm talking about in the SAO anime is definitely NTR.
Eh, let's agree to disagree, I don't see what Sugou was doing as NTR at all, it was just attempted rape plain and simple, Asuna wasn't enjoying it in the slightest at all and Kirito brutalized him before he could even go much further, so yeah, I just can't call that NTR at all :O
 

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Eh, let's agree to disagree, I don't see what Sugou was doing as NTR at all, it was just attempted rape plain and simple, Asuna wasn't enjoying it in the slightest at all and Kirito brutalized him before he could even go much further, so yeah, I just can't call that NTR at all :O
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In your opinion, what had to happen for this scene to be NTR? Was Asuna supposed to scream "fuck me Sugou"?

We may disagree, I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
 

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NTR is used too much as a broad generalized blanket term, it's used incorrectly way too much.

To spare a lengthy explanation, Netorare is when a lover is "stolen" from their significant other, and by "stolen" the process is usually done through blackmail or slow gradual corruption.

People use NTR too much to mean too many things that it isn't. It's kinda sad.
Wait was there NTR games in the 90s because i didn’t discover NTR late 2000s but i know this game is Netorare
 
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As far as i know, Netorare [寝取られ] come from the word 寝ます and 取ります. See the Kanjis there ? yep, its the same.
寝ます means sleep, while 取ります mean something like 'take' .
for example : take a photo, here you said 写真を(取ります).
Soo, using the dot connect as a way to understand it, 寝取られ (Netorare) means something like "I'll take your ... Sleep" which can be implied as to take your GF/BF (Simply put, sleep together with her/him).

But then again, the original or a dictionary word from 寝取られ come from 寝取る [Netoru] (It mean something like taking it by force, means that the partner are unwilling to do so). Therefore, from the dictionary form of 寝取る, we can see many development like ます[Masu] form, させます[Sasemasu] form, させる[Saseru] form, or even させられる[Saserareru] form, and yes, 寝取り[Netori] also have the same principle as this but a different POV on the other's side that want to be "Forcefully Taken"

Sorry that i can't explain further :sneaky: Hope that helps.
 

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In simpler terms NTR is when they take away something that belongs to you that is your property, and not something that you think belongs to you, the neighbor does not belong to you, the childhood friend does not belong to you, the classmate does not belong to you , someone who greets you kindly does not belong to you.
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In your opinion, what had to happen for this scene to be NTR? Was Asuna supposed to scream "fuck me Sugou"?

We may disagree, I'm just trying to understand your point of view.
Others have explained it, but yeah, by the strict definition of NTR, that wasn't it. Hell, you may be making a mistake addressing that question to me because I'm a bit more "assholish" about it than most people here because I'm not invested/dislike the genre so I can be more critique about it, like, I consider 99% of the SAO "NTR" that uses the non-Asuna girls to NOT count as NTR because, like Oozaru said above, you CAN'T "have stolen" what doesn't belong to you in the first place XD NTR literally means "stealing another's lover" yet over the years it's been used so much that it stretches to the point of being used in any female even remotely close to a male character.

Maybe it if actually was like your average cliche harem series like To Love-Ru where the MC never gets it on with anyone but there is still clear attraction between not only the heroines towards him but ALSO from him towards them, then I give it a pass of being considered 'NTR', but in a case like SAO where not only is the MC not interested romantically in the other girls at all but doesn't really show any real attraction towards them and is firmly and happily in a relationship, then I don't really consider the use of any non-Asuna girl as actual NTR at all and anyone who uses it to be wrong. I know many disagree on that aspect because they think that as long as SOME relationship is being "stolen", then it is NTR, but from what I think the word was created for in the first place it just really doesn't fit.

So no, I don't consider the scene in Canon Fairy Dance NTR at all, Sugou doesn't STEAL absolutely anything about Asuna in the way the Hentai Tag is meant to cause at all, like, would you label as NTR a doujin that halfway before the NTR MC did anything more than groping the Heroine has the 'cucked' one stand up, cut him to pieces, then go off to kiss and fuck with the heroine for the rest of the doujin XP? Because that's basically it. Not only is that there was no obvious NTR conclusion, Asuna expressed nothing but disgust and had not an ounce of pleasure, she found the experience nothing but disgusting and traumatic (Like, you know, she and most females would do outside the imagined NTR worlds where they're all sluts under the surface that are eternally unsatisfied with the people they like, even if the source material says they actually ARE great lovers and/or well-endowed, which funnily enough DxD, TLR, and even SAO have done XP). The 'without any resistance' part is because she doesn't want to give him the satisfaction of seeing her suffer from it, as she knows she CAN'T resist at all given Sugou basically had complete control of that world at that moment and could have made Kirito suffer worse if she did, though this last bit not only matters less but also is part (Like A LOT of SAO's nuance sadly) of the inner narrations and thoughts that the anime adaptation cut 90% of, sadly.

If Asuna showed even the slightest bit of 'positivity' towards it or even unwilling pleasure, then I would agree with you that at the very least the scene would be "kinda NTR-ish" despite its end completely negating that label, but that's not the case at all as she has nothing but the realistic reactions one would expect from it :O
 
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