RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.60] [Fujino]

[Hentai_Desu-ka?]

I think what makes the corruption feels off is how the NTR worked.

Asuna didn't start losing affection for Kirito because something he did instead it was stress from her mother. Kirito didn't do anything to be a bad boyfriend but he is still losing Asuna. Why? Simply because Inoda and Asuna are a more compatible couple. All the "corruption" in the game to me is just Asuna spending time with Inoda and realizing she is better physically and emotionally with Inoda than Kirito. The corruption seems off maybe because in other NTR works the NTR makes the woman realize she is unhappy with her man and that is why she leaves him. Like we should be cheering for her to leave the bad relationship. But here Asuna is happy with Kirito but the NTR makes her realize she is happier with Inoda so she will leave Kirito. So mixed feelings here.

I don't think that's peoples problem at all. With an already established series such as SAO and the fleshed out characters, the theme of NTR just doesn't fit the characters whether the NTR theme is Netorare, Netorase, or Netori. In SAO cannon universe, Kirito is a hapless carefree Harem of Friends plus one girlfriend Protagonist and the rest are just stuck in the friend zone, the reason for that is Kirito has no real competitive antagonist as he defeated all his enemies, but the primary problem of that is that there was never any real rival for Kirito to compete with -- and so, NTR Game Devs have to create one, whether people like that fan-made character or not is left to their own devices.

I plan on creating one as well, but before I create the SAO NTR game I intend to create a fan-made RPGM SAO game that is as close to cannon as possible, and give Kirito a rival. It won't be cannon as I'm not the creator of SAO so nothing like that, but, my game is gonna be at least within the cannon universe of SAO and it won't be a hentai game. It's just going to establish other characters so it doesn't just look like Kirito is the only heroic protagonist, he's at least going to have a rivalry with another character or multiple characters that can do more than just compete with him in games. Hopefully this will help flesh out the antagonist characters in the SAO NTR games that I do intend to make afterward.

Doing this my hope is that maybe players of the SAO NTR game I make won't find it so jarring when Kirito is faced with a situation where he could lose his girlfriend or harem of closest female friends, and I won't have to completely break their cannon character personalities.

edit: And as well, the fan-made spin off non-hentai SAO game I make is basically an introduction of those rivalry & antagonist characters for the eventual hentai SAO game. So it should smooth everything over with SAO fans to have played mine and to know that they exist within the universe I introduce.

 

[kjxyz]

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[kinglionheart]

I don't think that's peoples problem at all. With an already established series such as SAO and the fleshed out characters, the theme of NTR just doesn't fit the characters whether the NTR theme is Netorare, Netorase, or Netori. In SAO cannon universe, Kirito is a hapless carefree Harem of Friends plus one girlfriend Protagonist and the rest are just stuck in the friend zone, the reason for that is Kirito has no real competitive antagonist as he defeated all his enemies, but the primary problem of that is that there was never any real rival for Kirito to compete with -- and so, NTR Game Devs have to create one, whether people like that fan-made character or not is left to their own devices.

I plan on creating one as well, but before I create the SAO NTR game I intend to create a fan-made RPGM SAO game that is as close to cannon as possible, and give Kirito a rival. It won't be cannon as I'm not the creator of SAO so nothing like that, but, my game is gonna be at least within the cannon universe of SAO and it won't be a hentai game. It's just going to establish other characters so it doesn't just look like Kirito is the only heroic protagonist, he's at least going to have a rivalry with another character or multiple characters that can do more than just compete with him in games. Hopefully this will help flesh out the antagonist characters in the SAO NTR games that I do intend to make afterward.

Doing this my hope is that maybe players of the SAO NTR game I make won't find it so jarring when Kirito is faced with a situation where he could lose his girlfriend or harem of closest female friends, and I won't have to completely break their cannon character personalities.

I like to believe people who play a parody hentai game would either play the game knowing the characters won't act like their canon selves or don't play at all. I know watching characters you like getting brutalize is not fun. I avoided some games and doujin just because I don't like seeing characters I like abused.

To use characters from a non-porn work in a porn work you would have to change them. Not liking the porn work because the characters don't act their canon selves is just asinine.

In your example since it won't be a porn work you can keep the characters close to canon if you are focus on the story. Unless you will give the option for Asuna to end up with your OC. Then I would wonder what reason would make canon Asuna leave canon Kirito for another man?

 

[Hentai_Desu-ka?]

In your example since it won't be a porn work you can keep the characters close to canon if you are focus on the story. Unless you will give the option for Asuna to end up with your OC. Then I would wonder what reason would make canon Asuna leave canon Kirito for another man?

For the canon spin off I create, she won't be leaving Kirito and I don't plan to do anything of the sort for that. That sort of thing won't happen until it's introduced into the porn parody of that fan made spin off universe I created. The non-H SAO game I make basically will be like an introductory of the rival(s) & antagonist(s) OG characters, so they make sense to exist within the porn parody universe of that spin off. It will be story focused. There will possibly be some light ecchi scenes in the non-H SAO game perhaps but I wouldn't promise anything bigger than that for players to expect, probably just the most cliche of scenes for an ecchi comedy relief effect.

It will make sense in the porn parody of why Asuna or Kirito's harem of friends to find possible love interests else-where if I plan it out really well.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I like to believe people who play a parody hentai game would either play the game knowing the characters won't act like their canon selves or don't play at all. I know watching characters you like getting brutalize is not fun. I avoided some games and doujin just because I don't like seeing characters I like abused.

To use characters from a non-porn work in a porn work you would have to change them. Not liking the porn work because the characters don't act their canon selves is just asinine.

In your example since it won't be a porn work you can keep the characters close to canon if you are focus on the story. Unless you will give the option for Asuna to end up with your OC. Then I would wonder what reason would make canon Asuna leave canon Kirito for another man?

Pretty much, one of the main reasons I dislike NTR myself is because of how it almost always makes everyone involved act like insulting caricatures of themselves, some more than others, and I came upon this game fully expecting that but resigned as almost no decent SAO H-works nowadays aren't NTR, sadly XP However Fujino DID surprise me with the amount of dedication he put into the story, lack of respect for the SAO characters aside, and for his determination for continuing making his games, so I ended up more like a fan of Fujino than of the game and that's why I stick around aside from the nice source of Sugu Hentai :3

For the canon spin off I create, she won't be leaving Kirito and I don't plan to do anything of the sort for that. That sort of thing won't happen until it's introduced into the porn parody of that fan made spin off universe I created. The non-H SAO game I make basically will be like an introductory of the rival(s) & antagonist(s) OG characters, so they make sense to exist within the porn parody universe of that spin off. It will be story focused. There will possibly be some light ecchi scenes in the non-H SAO game perhaps but I wouldn't promise anything bigger than that for players to expect, probably just the most cliche of scenes for an ecchi comedy relief effect.

It will make sense in the porn parody of why Asuna or Kirito's harem of friends to find possible love interests else-where if I plan it out really well.

NGL, I myself honestly would find it more believable in a "porn parody" if the other girls actually convinced Asuna to let them have a go at Kirito rather than trying to hook up with random OCs, but I suppose more people prefer the NTR/dislike the 'harem' in most series XD

 

[Jeycii_]

As an unfortunate Netori enjoyer I can say for myself that i mainly enjoy the corruption of the "pure love" between the characters. Where the characters, who usually seem pure or strong-willed in the canon stories, slowly become corrupted by things like carnival pleasure and enjoyments.

I have read and seen countless manga/animes/lightnovels, where the mc and fmc are pretty much already chosen since the start and the other side chars are just for some rivalry/character building/storyplotcontinuations.
so most of the time its just pure vanilla romance mixed with drama.
So ntr stuff is like a fresh of breath air, seeing how those female characters would act in a less vanilla/wholesome environment, but in a more corrupt and darker one. where problems are not as easily solved as in stories.

for sure ntr plots often make the characters more stupid and ppl tend to say "its always the same", but ppl seem to forget that most problems in life are usually like this: status, money, relationships. and ppl who are at their weakest or their breaking points are usually the easiest to manipulate and blackmail.

Sure i dont follow the SAO stories, but im pretty sure, most of the characters there are still young, not even 18?
Just because they went through some life and death situation in a game, doesnt mean they are suddenly the most mature ppl out there and immune to any kind of shit they are thrown at.
Asuna for example is still a girl, living with a strict, overprotective and overbearing mother, with no father figure, coming from a "prestige" household and a lot of social pressure, trying to maintain a healthy relationship with kirito + trying to help and stay with friends with inoda + paying back her debts for him protecting her from thugs. also her having no real friends to whom she could share her problems with, kinda gives her some tunnel vision.

Kirito is still just some guy who played a lot of computer games, doesnt seem like overally academic and also seems to live in a small apartmant, with no job income, or any achievments except for having survived in the sao world.
asuna being from a good household and her mother not liking him for various reasons, obviously will eat at his self confidence further.

yes, im aware that im overthinking this kind of stuff anyways, but i have to say fujino is actually portraying the ppl quite well here in a more mean world, where social problems and corruption are way more present and powerful. especially for the character ages and in japan...

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

As an unfortunate Netori enjoyer I can say for myself that i mainly enjoy the corruption of the "pure love" between the characters. Where the characters, who usually seem pure or strong-willed in the canon stories, slowly become corrupted by things like carnival pleasure and enjoyments.

I have read and seen countless manga/animes/lightnovels, where the mc and fmc are pretty much already chosen since the start and the other side chars are just for some rivalry/character building/storyplotcontinuations.
so most of the time its just pure vanilla romance mixed with drama.
So ntr stuff is like a fresh of breath air, seeing how those female characters would act in a less vanilla/wholesome environment, but in a more corrupt and darker one. where problems are not as easily solved as in stories.

for sure ntr plots often make the characters more stupid and ppl tend to say "its always the same", but ppl seem to forget that most problems in life are usually like this: status, money, relationships. and ppl who are at their weakest or their breaking points are usually the easiest to manipulate and blackmail.

Sure i dont follow the SAO stories, but im pretty sure, most of the characters there are still young, not even 18?
Just because they went through some life and death situation in a game, doesnt mean they are suddenly the most mature ppl out there and immune to any kind of shit they are thrown at.
Asuna for example is still a girl, living with a strict, overprotective and overbearing mother, with no father figure, coming from a "prestige" household and a lot of social pressure, trying to maintain a healthy relationship with kirito + trying to help and stay with friends with inoda + paying back her debts for him protecting her from thugs. also her having no real friends to whom she could share her problems with, kinda gives her some tunnel vision.

Kirito is still just some guy who played a lot of computer games, doesnt seem like overally academic and also seems to live in a small apartmant, with no job income, or any achievments except for having survived in the sao world.
asuna being from a good household and her mother not liking him for various reasons, obviously will eat at his self confidence further.

yes, im aware that im overthinking this kind of stuff anyways, but i have to say fujino is actually portraying the ppl quite well here in a more mean world, where social problems and corruption are way more present and powerful. especially for the character ages and in japan...

See, the issue with that is that it really shows you don't know really the SAO characters at all or just the basic of them and not even remotely close to their full story, to try and justify Fujino's own take and his fucked-up NTR world (That's honestly by NO means realistic at all, really XP). Sure, SAO is a surprisingly 'grounded' story for being based on a futuristic world, but it also has many conveniences and you really are just trying to see Kirito and Asuna how they are as shown by Fujino, not how they ACTUALLY are in the series XD

The entire issue brought up above came from how Fujino had deformed both the characters and the setting so they could 'work' in a NTR- World-ruled-by-NTR-logic story which is his game, that's all. If it was written even remotely accurate to the actual SAO setting and characters absolutely no part of Fujino's story would work for waaaaay too many reasons, a lot of inconsistencies are also created because Fujino tries to keep some parallels to Canon SAO while also keeping his NTR-world-logic at play, meaning he sometimes tries to write Kirito more 'accurate' but also has to keep him massively incompetent in general because if he was even half as aware as Canon Kirito is he wouldn't have any of the issues this one has (Hell, he wouldn't even have bedroom issues with Asuna to begin with, LOL).

Fujino's game works by its own logic and because you can tell he went out of his way to try and put as much effort and dedication as he can into it, but it's not really accurate to Canon SAO at all, be it characters or setting, that's a fact, and not even to 'reality' because it tries to be both SAO and a harsher world at the same time so any 'realism' really flies out of the window

 

[saitamaTM]

Never thought I'd write a comment here, but Imma share my thoughts here.
Both FMC and MC are probably the most idiotic couple I've ever encounter.
I'm so frustrated at their actions compare to that of Inoda, at least Inoda is just your typical sociopath, trying to gain empathy through lies. *Which I had experience IRL with them*. The indecisiveness from both the MC really infuriates me, they couldn't even say what they had in mind to each other then what's the point being a couple and the sudden change in pace with Asuna opening up to Inoda is a no brainer either, with all the things happened and yet she still didn't let her guard up against Inoda, proves that this woman doesn't really love Kirito at all and only cares about pursuing carnal pleasure. If there's an ending where Kirito gets to choose to dump this bitch and move on with his life is probably the best thing can happen in the game which I know that isn't going to happen but thankfully this is just a game.

welcome to netorare my friend

 

[Hentai_Desu-ka?]

See, the issue with that is that it really shows you don't know really the SAO characters at all or just the basic of them and not even remotely close to their full story, to try and justify Fujino's own take and his fucked-up NTR world (That's honestly by NO means realistic at all, really XP). Sure, SAO is a surprisingly 'grounded' story for being based on a futuristic world, but it also has many conveniences and you really are just trying to see Kirito and Asuna how they are as shown by Fujino, not how they ACTUALLY are in the series XD

The entire issue brought up above came from how Fujino had deformed both the characters and the setting so they could 'work' in a NTR- World-ruled-by-NTR-logic story which is his game, that's all. If it was written even remotely accurate to the actual SAO setting and characters absolutely no part of Fujino's story would work for waaaaay too many reasons, a lot of inconsistencies are also created because Fujino tries to keep some parallels to Canon SAO while also keeping his NTR-world-logic at play, meaning he sometimes tries to write Kirito more 'accurate' but also has to keep him massively incompetent in general because if he was even half as aware as Canon Kirito is he wouldn't have any of the issues this one has (Hell, he wouldn't even have bedroom issues with Asuna to begin with, LOL).

Fujino's game works by its own logic and because you can tell he went out of his way to try and put as much effort and dedication as he can into it, but it's not really accurate to Canon SAO at all, be it characters or setting, that's a fact, and not even to 'reality' because it tries to be both SAO and a harsher world at the same time so any 'realism' really flies out of the window

A lot of this certainly doesn't help against the canon mixed in with the NTR-world of SAO as you mention, due to the incompetence portrayed by Fujino's version of Kirito. Almost too many NTR tropes are forced to depict the poor cuck to lose out to the antagonist because the MC is either depicted as a dumb cuck or losing the competition against the antagonist due to having a lame size peepee while the antagonist is sporting a stallion sized schlong. Kinda an over-used trope but personally I prefer the dense clueless cuck over the small penis cuck finding out that he only lost out to a bigger dick.

Personally I find Fujino doing a pretty good job writing an NTR SAO story. I really do give him kudos and the highest of praises as a fan of NTR games, there isn't very many that do as good of a job as Fujino.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

A lot of this certainly doesn't help against the canon mixed in with the NTR-world of SAO as you mention, due to the incompetence portrayed by Fujino's version of Kirito. Almost too many NTR tropes are forced to depict the poor cuck to lose out to the antagonist because the MC is either depicted as a dumb cuck or losing the competition against the antagonist due to having a lame size peepee while the antagonist is sporting a stallion sized schlong. Kinda an over-used trope but personally I prefer the dense clueless cuck over the small penis cuck finding out that he only lost out to a bigger dick.

Personally I find Fujino doing a pretty good job writing an NTR SAO story. I really do give him kudos and the highest of praises as a fan of NTR games, there isn't very many that do as good of a job as Fujino.

Yeah, I mentioned this a while back too, but while Fujino's game certainly is terrible at writing the SAO cast and setting (Starting from Kirito's flip-flopping incompetence to characters being super OOC and the plot-holes caused by him limiting characters/just the things he wanted to happen from Canon happen even if they contradict each other, etc), as a story itself is surprisingly well-written, with a lot of deep thought and effort put into it and trying his best to create a 'believable' story, with lots of build-up and dedication to the characters changing (Even if that got a bit ruined by the back and forth with the people complaining and then he deciding to just go fuck it with the last update).

As an SAO story it may fail but as a NTR story is a million times better and much more believable than 99% of any other SAO NTR works and that combined with his insane dedication to continue his work on these games period is something I will always keep praising !

 

[KurOneSho]

How often is this updated? Loving it so far

 

[kinglionheart]

How often is this updated? Loving it so far

Usually at the end of each month.

 

[Versace217]

How often is this updated? Loving it so far

Probably by this month end, last month was break month for the developer.

 

[Jeycii_]

*constantly looking at the game's icon*

 

[Jeycii_]

Man I never continued to watch the SAO Asuna X Nishida hypno app until now. the animations looked really good and i was ok with everything until nishida confessed to asuna that he used the hypno app on her and she is like: "yea i already knew.. its ok, i forgive you because it was for the better anyway" like no way that she wouldnt feel manipulated and betrayed at all. im ok with a lot of things, but thats where i draw the fking line.. no way man, fuk xd

 

[KurOneSho]

Kowtow! Hurrah!

 

[oozaru2023]

Man I never continued to watch the SAO Asuna X Nishida hypno app. the animations looked really good and i was ok with everything until nishida confessed to asuna he used the hypno app on asuna and she is like: "yea i already knew.. its ok, i forgive you because it was for the better anyway" like no way that she wouldnt feel manipulated and betrayed at all. im ok with a lot of things, but thats where i draw the fking line.. no way man, fuk xd

The Asuna in Nishida's version of the story is the stupidest one I have found so far, and above all

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really unforgivable, I have written a fanfic where Asuna loses

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Man I never continued to watch the SAO Asuna X Nishida hypno app. the animations looked really good and i was ok with everything until nishida confessed to asuna he used the hypno app on asuna and she is like: "yea i already knew.. its ok, i forgive you because it was for the better anyway" like no way that she wouldnt feel manipulated and betrayed at all. im ok with a lot of things, but thats where i draw the fking line.. no way man, fuk xd

LMAO, yeah. The saddest part is that it's not even the worst use of NTR plots/hypno-apps I have ever seen, so at that point I didn't mind much, even if it made Asuna look either ultra-idiotic or like the biggest bitch ever, either way at least Kirito managed to get rid of THAT before it was too late, he's the one who ended up winning the most in the end there truly XD

 

[Muliu]

Compress the newest version anyone ??

 

[Jeycii_]

From Fujino Senseis Patreon:


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Current Progress:
1.Add the POV of Asuna in the wooden house in the forest in CG room.
2.Finish the hypnosis event CGs of Alice.
3.Add two sexual harassment CG of Asuna, and some relevant events CGs of Leafa.
4.CGs of Other Charaters like Lisbeth is still on progress."

we will be eating good sooooooon