AlterInfernalAllius

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Is it me or the handjob scene just felt out of place, like asuna just said fuck it after constantly saying she can't do things with inoda again
To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O
 

pnkrel

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2. There was an excessive focus on Inoda's inner struggles, resulting in a weak sense of betrayal.

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.

The issue with the sense of betrayal lies in the current progress. I currently don't have any remarkable developments for Inoda and Asuna's dynamic. This ties into another problem.


So from what I read from the dev is that we are not suppose to see Inoda as a complete scumbag by seeing his inner struggles. What inner struggle was there? In Part 1 I could see him less scumbag because he only went after Asuna and used pretty tame tactics. But in Part 2, he uses fake aphrodisiac, blackmailed Kyouko into accomplice, and teams up with Liz to break the couple up. Even when I hear his thoughts, I see him as a uncontrollable sex addict. If anything he was less a scumbag before and now has no redeeming qualities. Did I miss something?

Was it all times he said he was unloved by his parents and he is so ugly no like him? He said those things when we trying to get Asuna to feel sympathy for him so am I suppose to think he is right or deserves it?
Maybe, he want to point out how Inoda has to be more cautious and manipulative to get Asuna, which in first game was just a linear progression. As well as, comic element was there such as liz helping him out, hj scene, and face stomp scene. So, he's getting more fleshed out as a character who has to use his wits to get asuna rather than like part 1 Asuna was just falling over more n more every day.
 

pnkrel

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To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O
I think that happened because of plot armour, as well. But yeah, it also can be that kirito dick, which was chemically made large, bring back her remembering Inoda. As well as, she was frustrated from her mom pressure, and she wanted to be defiant a bit. N as the plot armour goes, she wants to take care of him, so in the name of taking care, we got new H scene which was hot. It also contrast well with hj with kirito where she wasn't into it, but with him she was completely mesmerized by his size.
 

LPSD

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To maybe-answer this, and also shed light on something most people either didn't notice or completely ignored/didn't care about compared to complaining about the game's pace in this update, now every time you enter the Recollection Room, if you go to the small temple on the left side, you can find Administrator/Quinella sitting there and she will give you some small talk related to the latest developments of the day if you interact with her once (Second time she just tells you to go away).

This lets you get hints that she has started actively interfering with the real world because of plot-Goddess powers, she says she was the one who allowed the magical horny-healing drug to be created, and during the scene of the handjob it's hinted SHE's the one that somehow gave Inoda magically the knowledge to do a medical massage that both got Asuna horny and let him do so without injuring her further :O
I see that explains it, not to hate or anything but if this is the way fujino is gonna have her get corrupted that sucks
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I see that explains it, not to hate or anything but if this is the way fujino is gonna have her get corrupted that sucks
I mean, Fujino is clearly starting to rush Asuna's corruption because of so many people complaining of how slow it's going, so he's starting to take some liberties/shortcuts for it, but being totally fair she HAS already been corrupted a lot, it's just that she had the common sense to resist it and that's starting to be eroded, just not in a way most would have preferred I suppose XP
 

4-kun

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That's completely fair, yeah, I read it back when I was a teenager myself so watching the anime later wasn't as much of an issue for me, I probably wouldn't read it nowadays now that I'm an old man and my tastes have changed LOL.

I've avoided Spoilers, but as I said before, the 'perks' have been there from the very first update of the game and A LOT have changed since Fujino made them so a lot of them may either be not reliable or even outright just not matter much for the plot of other characters given all the changes Fujino made regarding the game when he first posted it.

I will admit, I had my own selfish reasons for wanting Suguha to end up being 'stolen' by Inoda, mainly that it was unironically the "best ending" I could imagine for her in this game (Especially since Fujino said getting rid of Hebishima was actually a possibility) and may as well get a Suguha x Asuna threesome out of it, but after this update I have changed my mind, now I want Suguha going Yandere for Kirito (Much to his horror) despite the power of Hebishima's Chad NTR Dick, maybe herself ending up being the cause Hebishima ends up removed from the game XD (Granted, it may be because it reminded me a bit of my favorite SAO H-doujin :p)
Yeah, that new side of Suguha was a pleasant surprise. Since she has no connection to Inoda by now, it would be a long and complicated process to implement it properly, considering there is Liz and Asuna's mom before that. So I'm also all in for Yandere. It would be funny if she picks up Kirito after Asuna leaves him to make him her personal sex slave . I also think that her hitting hard on Kirito could help Asuna fall for Inoda much quicker.

PS: I didn't like her in SAO because that sister love thing was so overused even back then, but here, it's another story
 

Rubyrosesilver22

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Fujino He trying to make the game the way he wants it after looking at latest update I hope he will still do inoda in comical way but if he doesn’t that’s fine despite everything I enjoyed this update Asuna she realized she doesn’t need to be perfect all time was a good idea the dirty joke scene was fun and Inoda has worked hard to get Asuna again was interesting
 

LPSD

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I mean, Fujino is clearly starting to rush Asuna's corruption because of so many people complaining of how slow it's going, so he's starting to take some liberties/shortcuts for it, but being totally fair she HAS already been corrupted a lot, it's just that she had the common sense to resist it and that's starting to be eroded, just not in a way most would have preferred I suppose XP
well then he is going to ruin this game, I dont really have a problem with asuna giving inoda a hj is more of there was no build up, just a foot massage and then asuna just agrees to give a hj it feels like he added this goddess to excuse himself from adding any build up between asuna and inoda
 

LordFrz

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Part 1 is not a different game, part 1 is the same game but separated due to limitations with the engine. All the buildup we had in part 1 still exists, I feel like people keep forgetting that when they say things are going too fast. Yes, Inoda moved too fast in part 1 and caused Asuna to try and distance herself. But we dont need the entirety of part 2 to be more buildup, they already fucked. A handy is not some giant leap.

I think the only thing Fujino is doing wrong is using the recollection room as a core part of the game. The recollection room is to replay what ive already seen or missed, not to play a key part in the story progression, that is just weird and confusing.

But at the end of the day, he needs to just turn off comments for a while, drop 2-3 updates without checking any feedback, and then see where he is at and how people are reacting to the game.

Its a porn game, everyone wants it to tailor to their specific fetishes and fantasies, but you cant please everybody.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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PS: I didn't like her in SAO because that sister love thing was so overused even back then, but here, it's another story
See, here is the thing, Suguha actually was WAY more of a complex character than that, and while not as deeply as the novels the anime ALSO showed this, the issue is that basically nobody ever saw beyond "She likes her brother/cousin, this means she's another Imouto-Incest-Trope". Suguha literally has a realistic reaction to her feelings for Kazuto, she's suffering because she KNOWS he's in love with someone else and that under most circumstances he still would never see her as a woman, and she actively supports him, putting his happiness over her own rather than acting like a lovestruck sister cliche, hell, she gets her heart broken twice over trying to forget her feelings for him instead of being some bothersome cliche whose only trait is being in love with her brother to the point she's selfless at a borderline masochistic way, preferring to suffer repeatedly over forcing her feelings on him, even after she had a breakdown and actively was rejected she ended up understanding and rooting for his and Asuna's happiness regardless of her own feelings remaining, which is why I always liked her so much and lowkey made me a KiriSugu shipper, LOL

Of course, none of that matters for this game because her character was completely butchering to work in the NTR World setting and fall under NTR Tropes, so I had given up on seeing her in this game as anything but a source of good Suguha Hentai, which is why this sudden development was the most pleasant of surprises tbh XP As I said it reminds me of my favorite SAO H-doujin, where Suguha just goes full yandere and is fucking Kirito actively while he's in SAO having his honeymoon with Asuna, and when he finally logs out at the end of Aincrad she's there to greet him in the shadows with a full-on Yandere Face and a pregnant belly :p
 

4-kun

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Fujino He trying to make the game the way he wants it after looking at latest update I hope he will still do inoda in comical way but if he doesn’t that’s fine despite everything I enjoyed this update Asuna she realized she doesn’t need to be perfect all time was a good idea the dirty joke scene was fun and Inoda has worked hard to get Asuna again was interesting
Now, as you mention it, Inoda's behavior changed in this update. Him fooling around felt a bit off to me. The dude looks and behaves cunning, evil, and disgusting, and that's great about his character.
It's a risky move, changing a game character's personality so late into the game.
 

SGod

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Didn't Fujino mention that the rainy scenes were unintentional? I'm puzzled about why people perceive the story as moving backward. As of now, Asuna hasn't shown any interest in fulfilling Inoda's wishes until this moment.
 

Eet_Fuk

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Didn't Fujino mention that the rainy scenes were unintentional? I'm puzzled about why people perceive the story as moving backward. As of now, Asuna hasn't shown any interest in fulfilling Inoda's wishes until this moment.
How do you mean unintentional?
 

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See, here is the thing, Suguha actually was WAY more of a complex character than that, and while not as deeply as the novels the anime ALSO showed this, the issue is that basically nobody ever saw beyond "She likes her brother/cousin, this means she's another Imouto-Incest-Trope". Suguha literally has a realistic reaction to her feelings for Kazuto, she's suffering because she KNOWS he's in love with someone else and that under most circumstances he still would never see her as a woman, and she actively supports him, putting his happiness over her own rather than acting like a lovestruck sister cliche, hell, she gets her heart broken twice over trying to forget her feelings for him instead of being some bothersome cliche whose only trait is being in love with her brother to the point she's selfless at a borderline masochistic way, preferring to suffer repeatedly over forcing her feelings on him, even after she had a breakdown and actively was rejected she ended up understanding and rooting for his and Asuna's happiness regardless of her own feelings remaining, which is why I always liked her so much and lowkey made me a KiriSugu shipper, LOL

Of course, none of that matters for this game because her character was completely butchering to work in the NTR World setting and fall under NTR Tropes, so I had given up on seeing her in this game as anything but a source of good Suguha Hentai, which is why this sudden development was the most pleasant of surprises tbh XP As I said it reminds me of my favorite SAO H-doujin, where Suguha just goes full yandere and is fucking Kirito actively while he's in SAO having his honeymoon with Asuna, and when he finally logs out at the end of Aincrad she's there to greet him in the shadows with a full-on Yandere Face and a pregnant belly :p
Thanks, for the insight (y)

Yeah, I know that doujin ;)
 

4-kun

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How do you mean unintentional?
I've read somewhere that Fujino stated that 'the rainy night' was a mistake from Asuna's perspective. But I believe that Fujino himself initially didn't want that to happen so early. Due to the need to conclude part one, as a result of engine problems, he was forced to end it with a bang.

If I'm not mixing thing up. :)
 
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It's a shame that people criticize so much, that Fujino is doing his best and people end up not liking it, there are some things that I agree with here and not elsewhere, for example Asuna not liking Kirito's ''dick'' who grew up and talking It hurts, but I liked it with Inoda, I really didn't understand that.

I like slow progression, because it means the game is good, but not too slow of course, the problem is that people don't understand that Asuna wanted to get away from Inoda after that, and only forgave now, however... Ok, she did an HJ for him, but he doesn't want to get that far, that soon, that's why Inoda wants to conquer it first with tips from Liz, I think Fujino is doing a great job with that, but if he wants to change from now on, I respect and I'm going to keep playing, but I just hope it doesn't just speed up Asuna and Inoda out of nowhere like that, I think it would be possible to complete Alice and Sinon so people don't get disturbed and so he can focus on what he wants. And Asuna's mom is hypocritical as hell.
 

Niselaro

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Some people are dissatisfied with this update because they want spicy hot content, not spice, but as game is in development and in full picture even now everything is good and will be. Some consider this too much bordering vanilla maybe, but you can't make NTR without vanilla or its just prostitution or because there were 3 CG's of Kirito that probably almost no one was excited about except vanilla guys who voted for it, but its also played its part in Asuna corruption and cheating progress. I doubt someone was very excited about them, rape and HJ. Asuna is starting to do lewd stuff with Inoda smoothly and goes towards ''justified cheating'' which is best.
 
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