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There was a post from someone a while ago that had the thought that one of the concepts of Netorare is the vicotry of lust over love, obviously that does not mean that every story that has NTR needs to be based around that concept but i do think that the creator is going for something like that in this game.
So i don't think that we are gonna get a "Inoda being a better boyfriend" in this. I think the dev is gonna go for something like: Asuna will try to go back to Kirito after Inoda pressured her into sex but won't be satisfied by Kirito and eventually ends up begging for Inoda to have sex with her again.
Obviously that's a very condensed form of what i think will happen but i would also not be surprised if i'm wrong on this, just wanted to give my own thoughts on it.
I completely agree with you, this is the path of 99% of NTRs, and as much as this developer is excellent, in terms of story Asuna's path should be exactly focused on sex and the general pleasure she receives from Inoda. I think the point that the author wanted to bring in this game is a very famous anime character being stolen by a failed and sick bastard like Inoda, the scene of Inoda masturbating with the onahole at the beginning of the game describes well how sick this character is lonely and failed, the feeling of someone so insignificant stealing Asuna from such a famous character like Kirito is the interesting idea of this game. Personally I prefer something like Inoda to a blond bully, or a black guy likewise, not forgetting the ugly fat seniors.
 
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I completely agree with you, this is the path of 99% of NTRs, and as much as this developer is excellent, in terms of story Asuna's path should be exactly focused on sex and the general pleasure she receives from Inoda. I think the point that the author wanted to bring in this game is a very famous anime character being stolen by a failed and sick bastard like Inoda, the scene of Inoda masturbating with the onahole at the beginning of the game describes well how sick this character is lonely and failed, the feeling of someone so insignificant stealing Asuna from such a famous character like Kirito is the interesting idea of this game. Personally I prefer something like Inoda to a blond bully, or a black guy likewise, not forgetting the ugly fat seniors.
And let's face it, a nerd failure like Inoda was needed mainly for the FOG game issue, it's much more convincing to believe that someone like Inoda lives indoors playing FOG and masturbating all day.
 

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Currently, there is no unified standard for NTR, at least no law has stipulated it. You cannot convince me, and I cannot convince you. Everyone has their own preferences and expectations, and no single work can please everyone.
As for this game, the character settings of Inoda and Asuna have already hinted at the direction of the story. From my personal understanding, Asuna's "love" for Inoda is inevitable, or to be more accurate, not only her body but also her heart will be taken by Inoda. It's somewhat similar to the NTR route in Spiral Legend V.
Vanilla? To some extent, yes. But it's based on a twisted love and a conspiracy. Even if it's gorgeous and charming, it cannot change the reality that it is an evil flower. Asuna may eventually learn the truth and have a moment to mourn her once pure and innocent self and immaculate love, but she will ultimately fall into Inoda's embrace.
Will Asuna become a public whore? No, not in this work. If you like group sex plots, there are plenty of Doujin like that.
Will Kirito become Othello or the Count of Monte Cristo? No, he won't. Either he continues to be ignorant and happy, or he becomes a pitiful loser who enjoys being cuckolded.
 
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There was a post from someone a while ago that had the thought that one of the concepts of Netorare is the vicotry of lust over love, obviously that does not mean that every story that has NTR needs to be based around that concept but i do think that the creator is going for something like that in this game.
So i don't think that we are gonna get a "Inoda being a better boyfriend" in this. I think the dev is gonna go for something like: Asuna will try to go back to Kirito after Inoda pressured her into sex but won't be satisfied by Kirito and eventually ends up begging for Inoda to have sex with her again.
Obviously that's a very condensed form of what i think will happen but i would also not be surprised if i'm wrong on this, just wanted to give my own thoughts on it.
"Netorare is the vicotry of lust over love"

I agree with that, but I also like it when the girlfriend's fall isn't just about "more sexual pleasure, dick size, etc". Ofc, those are basic things that I think should be in all netorare, but I like when the girlfriend's corruption/downfall also goes beyond just that. In the SAO game's case I think the author is doing a really good job, manipulating Asuna to make her have empathy for Inoda, taking advantage of her need to help others, the situations that were created to make her feel like she owed something to Inoda, forcing her to be way more with Inoda than Kirito, etc (And apparently all these things evolving to the point where she's starting to also develop some feelings for Inoda. Of course, I still think the main point here is to corrupt Asuna to become more "lust > love", and that be the reason Kirito will lose her to Inoda, but I still think it's nice to have extra things like that, make things more interesting and convincing to me).
 
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I completely agree with you, this is the path of 99% of NTRs, and as much as this developer is excellent, in terms of story Asuna's path should be exactly focused on sex and the general pleasure she receives from Inoda. I think the point that the author wanted to bring in this game is a very famous anime character being stolen by a failed and sick bastard like Inoda, the scene of Inoda masturbating with the onahole at the beginning of the game describes well how sick this character is lonely and failed, the feeling of someone so insignificant stealing Asuna from such a famous character like Kirito is the interesting idea of this game. Personally I prefer something like Inoda to a blond bully, or a black guy likewise, not forgetting the ugly fat seniors.
Yeah, I also tend to prefer villains like Inoda (who do more of the "ugly bastard" style) over villains who are "handsome young men" or "muscular men". The idea of someone like Inoda stealing Asuna from Kirito seems more humiliating and exciting to me, but it needs to be done in a convincing way and I think this game manages to do that.
 

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InodaxAsuna is already starting to get boring though. She needs another dick to accelerate her debasement fast.
What's the point in corrupting her and not having wild oats spread in her? If I was looking for a vanilla SAO story where she only fucks one dude then I'd stick to vanilla SAO smut. There's nothing so special about Inoda that I should want him to win her to himself, I'm only here to see Asuna debased and Kirito emasculated. Inoda isn't special, Kirito is just pathetic and having her cheating on both of them is what best reflects that.
We have a complete difference in opinion then. If they make Asuna just a whore to any dick then Kirito isn't losing his girl, he's dodging a bullet. IF I just want to see Asuna railed by any old dick I can see literally 1000s of images and animations on any porn site. There is nothing special about just fucking anything that moves. It would suck more for Kirito to lose his girl to Inoda. But if she then left Inoda to just fuck anybody then its like, "oh, it's not me that wasn't enough, she was just a whore nvm".
 

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I completely agree with you, this is the path of 99% of NTRs, and as much as this developer is excellent, in terms of story Asuna's path should be exactly focused on sex and the general pleasure she receives from Inoda. I think the point that the author wanted to bring in this game is a very famous anime character being stolen by a failed and sick bastard like Inoda, the scene of Inoda masturbating with the onahole at the beginning of the game describes well how sick this character is lonely and failed, the feeling of someone so insignificant stealing Asuna from such a famous character like Kirito is the interesting idea of this game. Personally I prefer something like Inoda to a blond bully, or a black guy likewise, not forgetting the ugly fat seniors.
Yea I agree, losing your girl to a guy that objectively a downgrade from you would sting more. Yea, a giga chad rolls in and snipes your girl, bummer. But a fat ugly bastard? like damn bro.
 
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We have a complete difference in opinion then. If they make Asuna just a whore to any dick then Kirito isn't losing his girl, he's dodging a bullet. IF I just want to see Asuna railed by any old dick I can see literally 1000s of images and animations on any porn site. There is nothing special about just fucking anything that moves. It would suck more for Kirito to lose his girl to Inoda. But if she then left Inoda to just fuck anybody then its like, "oh, it's not me that wasn't enough, she was just a whore nvm".
Not that I don't like the NTR stories where the girl fucks several guys, I think this is nice too, but yeah. I hope Asuna only falls for Inoda here.
 
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I wonder why NTR are mostly loved by man but not female. Like some people are willing to let their wife sleep with others, but female does not like to share their husband and they don't like NTR for sure. why is it ?
 

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We have a complete difference in opinion then. If they make Asuna just a whore to any dick then Kirito isn't losing his girl, he's dodging a bullet. IF I just want to see Asuna railed by any old dick I can see literally 1000s of images and animations on any porn site. There is nothing special about just fucking anything that moves. It would suck more for Kirito to lose his girl to Inoda. But if she then left Inoda to just fuck anybody then its like, "oh, it's not me that wasn't enough, she was just a whore nvm".
Because I'm not even looking for Kirito to lose his girl. I want her filling herself up with 8 different guy's jizz before she meets up with Kirito for a date where she leads him on and never fucks him. Maybe even have her seduce a random stranger for a quickie in the bathroom while Kirito is waiting to pay the bill. Really just bonus points to me if she's doing the same thing to Inoda. Unless someone ends up dead at the end one man NTR is just too vanilla, look at the one dude basically fantasizing about an AsunaxInoda love story.
Beyond that I don't think Inoda is enough of a man to stuff this genie back in the bottle. All he has going for him is ugly bastard and magic penis powers. Once she becomes a true cock worshipper I don't see why she would settle for just one, or technically two (one and a half?) men.
 
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Because I'm not even looking for Kirito to lose his girl. I want her filling herself up with 8 different guy's jizz before she meets up with Kirito for a date where she leads him on and never fucks him. Maybe even have her seduce a random stranger for a quickie in the bathroom while Kirito is waiting to pay the bill. Really just bonus points to me if she's doing the same thing to Inoda. Unless someone ends up dead at the end one man NTR is just too vanilla, look at the one dude basically fantasizing about an AsunaxInoda love story.
Beyond that I don't think Inoda is enough of a man to stuff this genie back in the bottle. All he has going for him is ugly bastard and magic penis powers. Once she becomes a true cock worshipper I don't see why she would settle for just one, or technically two (one and a half?) men.
That's not even NTR to me, that's just a corruption game. There are a million of those, it's boring. It's not a love story, Asuna is falling for a terrible guy. BUt we will never see eye to eye here. Thankfully we can look at the author's previous works to get an idea about where this will head, and I'm afraid I will probably be more pleased then you in the end.
 

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That's not even NTR to me, that's just a corruption game. There are a million of those, it's boring. It's not a love story, Asuna is falling for a terrible guy. BUt we will never see eye to eye here. Thankfully we can look at the author's previous works to get an idea about where this will head, and I'm afraid I will probably be more pleased then you in the end.
Unless its type A all NTR is corruption anyway. Only difference is I think every single person in this fucked up triangle should lose. Kirito is an idiotic dickless wonder and deserves to be cucked, Asuna is a cheating bitch who took almost no push to end up in another guy's bed and Inoda is a rapist creep with no redeeming feature. Asuna cheating on both of them while inhumanly debasing herself is just a happy ending at this point.
It'd make no sense for it to be a one man game just looking at Inoda, there's no way a guy like that could lock down a woman like Asuna, especially given what he's doing to her. Can only corrupt a person so much before they begin to corrupt themselves too.
Also seeing as how the dev is making a netorase route as well I'm not sure we can make definitive guesses from his previous work.
Even if it does go the boring one man route that isn't going to bother me one bit. Every update comes with a full gallery save so I could just use that and treat it like the soulless fap simulator it'd end up as then :WeSmart::whistle:
 
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I wonder why NTR are mostly loved by man but not female. Like some people are willing to let their wife sleep with others, but female does not like to share their husband and they don't like NTR for sure. why is it ?
Porn in general is mostly made with a male target audience. That's why you won't find the same amount of NTR porn that targets women.

But there are women who like NTR and stories of cheating, or stories where a woman makes a man lose the interest he initially had in someone else to be with her. The thing here is that women tend to relate to these fantasies differently than men, they usually prefer books, fanfics, movies, telenovelas, shows. An example of this is the telenovela "Ugly Betty" (very popular among girls at the time, with several adaptations for other countries). It tells the story of a girl, considered ugly, who falls in love with a handsome guy who has relationship with some other girl much more attractive than her. In the end the guy somehow falls in love with the ugly girl and chooses to be with her.

And another important point is that you seem to be getting into the idea that just because a guy likes NTR it means he insert himself into the characters being cucked (it's usually the idea that NTR haters have), which is not true. Of course, there are guys out there who like the idea of having their partner stolen or sharing her, as well as women with these tastes (Usually both genders are unlikely to admit these desires in real life. They will most likely do this in the internet, through a anonymous profile and in places where they feel safe sharing these sexual desires). But most of the people I've talked to who liked NTR have no desire to be cucks in real life and dont insert themselves into cuck characters when playing or watching NTR. If they were to insert themselves into any characters, it would usually be the character who steals the girl, but the reason most people I've met (myself included) like NTR in short is usually because we enjoy the corruption of the girlfriend being robbed and falling for the villain, because there's a sadistic side in us that likes to see her boyfriend totally defeated and humiliated by this, having a sad or even tragic ending, and we like the adultery/infidelity scenarios.
 

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As for Fujino's work, the biggest feature is the secret affair, and this work is no exception. Maybe things will be different once Kirito completely enters the NTRS route, but at least for now, it's not in line with the game's style for Asuna to become a promiscuous bitch. After all, Kirito in this work is not an idiot, and it's impossible for him to remain ignorant if so many men have been with Asuna.

Furthermore, the quality of an NTR story should not be determined by the number of sexual partners the heroine has. Instead, what makes a good NTR story is the emotional depth and complexity of the characters involved, as well as the tension and conflict that arises from the betrayals and heartbreaks that occur.
 
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Well, then that's a fundamental disagreement about what can be NTR. Because for me the MC and girl being stolen don't have to have any sexual attachment.

I also don't need every girl to be heavily involved with the MC, in fact, I prefer one main girl, and then several less important side girls.
It's not only about sex, no, but there should be some kind of sexual attraction towards the woman. It shouldn't be heavy, it shouldn't be a consent relationship, it could be just MC consider the girl somewhat sexy and he's somewhat interested in her, but there should be at least something. Family relation can't fall under this category.
 
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I wonder why NTR are mostly loved by man but not female. Like some people are willing to let their wife sleep with others, but female does not like to share their husband and they don't like NTR for sure. why is it ?
not really, check this video, this girl like NTR anime/manga but not her bf.
 

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Hello guys, finally I finished the maps in FOG, there are about 60 new maps, now I'm working on the new maps in real world. And the character of Lizbeth is completed. I'm choosing outfits for her.
Sorry for the late report, I have been really busy these days. There are some important things I have to deal with. Anyway I will try to make an update in the end of this month, it may not have too many contents, but it's an important beginning of the Part II.

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