RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.65] [Fujino]

[kinglionheart]

If Asuna doesn't care about Kirito anymore, can it be confirmed that the game is no longer NTR?

No because as long as Kirito still loves Asuna it is still NTR. NTR doesn't require mutual love. One sided love is enough.

 

[Urgot Main Urgot]

I don't know what what you wrote has to do with it, but the fact is I just said that as long as the fans pay Fujino, he could also do part 3 but if I were him I wouldn't do it, because every game is destined to end

p.s Inoda has already done his part and now that he's out of the way along with Asuna, Liz and Asuna's mother (I can never write her name correctly xD)
the rest is Kirito's

That's exactly why, lol.

The game is very successful and Fujino will probably want to invest more in SAO, as you said instead of having part 3, simply create a new route without Inoda and with another new character. (Maybe BBC or other features).

I would simply make the game start as normal like Part 1 and when it comes time for Inoda to join the team or not, he refuses and makes another part of the route join, it would be interesting.

 

[Urgot Main Urgot]

If Asuna doesn't care about Kirito anymore, can it be confirmed that the game is no longer NTR?

Kirito still loves Asuna, so it's still NTR, he'll be a cuckold until the end or continue being a cuckold because he wants to.

 

[kinglionheart]

We are talking about NTR not being a cuckold. NTR is all about the feelings a person has knowing or believing someone they love is being taken by another. So even if the other person doesn't even know you exist, it is still NTR. In fact there is a whole sub-category of NTR for this. I think it is called "But I Loved Her First" or something.

With being a cuckold, if you use the literal definition then you still be one even if you two are not a couple. You just have to be such a weak loser that you willing support kids not your own.

 

[Aniky Light]

but Slutsuna besides jumping on the dick, what else can she do? nothing at all, she's ruined
The real Asuna in this moment is watching the game and you can imagine her reaction xD

 

[Aniky Light]

Asuna says that if you do in the game it's not cheating, then she sees a fake Kirito fucking Leafa and becomes shocked, as if this rule doesn't apply to Kirito, oh my god what a bastard

 

[mos555]

We are talking about NTR not being a cuckold. NTR is all about the feelings a person has knowing or believing someone they love is being taken by another. So even if the other person doesn't even know you exist, it is still NTR. In fact there is a whole sub-category of NTR for this. I think it is called "But I Loved Her First" or something.

With being a cuckold, if you use the literal definition then you still be one even if you two are not a couple. You just have to be such a weak loser that you willing support kids not your own.

Netorare is more often found in the form of the abbreviation NTR and is a controversial hentai branch built on cheating on the main character with someone else, as a hot bait to provoke jealousy in the viewer who wants to associate himself with one of the three participants in the plot: a playboy, a cuckold or a cheater.

In fact, the hentai artists revived the Italian commedia dell'arte with its cheerful Harlequin, crying Piero and nimble Columbine, who played with new colors in the light of the sexual revolution, bringing eros and masochism into the intrigue.

The world-old story of a love triangle added to the frivolity a taste of tragedy and suffering over long episodes instead of one-act vaudeville. This is the Japanese tradition of bringing everything to perfection.

The word cuckold means a husband deceived by his wife. This is an allusion to the mating habits of deer, which lose their mates when they are defeated by another male. This word often implies that the husband is deceived; that he does not know about his wife's infidelity and may not know until a child appears or grows up that is clearly not his (as in the case of cuckoo birds). It comes from the word cuck - a weak or servile person and from cuckoo - this refers to her habit of laying her eggs in the nests of other birds. The association is widespread in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography.

Note in the first case, a person becomes a cuckold when he already loses a partner, and in the second he does not even suspect that he has lost a partner. If we take the Japanese NTR, then more often it is based on the second option - someone else's child and a husband who suspects nothing

But in the West in 2000 they came up with - the cuckold became a fetish from the BDSM community in which the husband watches his wife being fucked and he likes it. In Japan, Netorase was quickly invented to define this.

In China, it's called "Putting on a green hat." It's strange that Fujino hasn't used it yet.

This is all I mean, basically that NTR is based on the attitude of 2 people into whom someone "third" climbs. And for NTR to work, the relationship between 2 people needs to be clearly highlighted for the players or the audience. If Asuna says or thinks (or Fujino writes in her status) that that's it, she no longer needs Kirito and the relationship is over and now they have nothing to do with each other, then I, as a spectator or player, lose all sense of feeling betrayal or jealousy. Kirito becomes a voyeur and a stalker. For NTR to work, Fujino must avoid ending the relationship permanently, even unilaterally. This is my IMHO and I think Fujino should insist to the end that Asuna "experience a bit of love or even without love, still have to stay with Kirito or marry Kirito"

 

[4-kun]

No because as long as Kirito still loves Asuna it is still NTR. NTR doesn't require mutual love. One sided love is enough.

Yeah, as one-sided as this take on NTR.

 

[mos555]

If you are in love with your married neighbor and, of course, her husband periodically fucks her, then is this NTR? She knows you're in love with her, but she doesn't care because she's married. No, it's not NTR, it's some kind of thriller about a maniac. Here's the case - if Asuna breaks off her relationship with Kirito, it doesn't matter what Kirito thinks. No couple - no theft.

It comes from jp. 寝取られ(netorare), from 寝取る (netoru) "to have sex with [someone other than a spouse/lover]", from 寝 (ne) "to sleep" + 取る (toru) "to steal".

You can't steal something from a person that they don't have, even if they think they have it.

 

[specialpla3e]

The real Asuna in this moment is watching the game and you can imagine her reaction xD

 

[4-kun]

If you are in love with your married neighbor and, of course, her husband periodically fucks her, then is this NTR? She knows you're in love with her, but she doesn't care because she's married. No, it's not NTR, it's some kind of thriller about a maniac. Here's the case - if Asuna breaks off her relationship with Kirito, it doesn't matter what Kirito thinks. No couple - no theft.

It comes from jp. 寝取られ(netorare), from 寝取る (netoru) "to have sex with [someone other than a spouse/lover]", from 寝 (ne) "to sleep" + 取る (toru) "to steal".

You can't steal something from a person that they don't have, even if they think they have it.

Inoda even said one time that he got NTR-ed by Kirito, but that’s Inoda, he already thinks Asuna is his wife.

Are we really going to start the "what is NTR" conversation again?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yeah, as one-sided as this take on NTR.

Sadly, we have already acknowledged that this is the reason why so much "Not-NTR" exists nowadays, at some point it was simply popularized that even completely one-sided feelings and even lack of actual interest from the part of the other person was still seen as "NTR", that's why so many pics or doujins from even series like SAO where the girls have accepted their loss despite their feelings and Kirito doesn't even look at them in that way are tagged as NTR on Pixiv and the like, when realistically only the ones involving Asuna should be counted as it XP

 

[mos555]

Inoda even said one time that he got NTR-ed by Kirito, but that’s Inoda, he already thinks Asuna is his wife.

Are we really going to start the "what is NTR" conversation again?

This is the funniest thing about this game - the most important cuckold is Inoda.If he thinks that Asuna is his wife, then in the scene at the church, Asuna cheated on him with Kirito, right in front of his eyes.

No, no, it's just my opinion (and not only mine, most likely) that NTR does not work one - sided. Therefore, I decided to express my "fucking important opinion" (no!) on this matter.

 

[900bs]

This is the funniest thing about this game - the most important cuckold is Inoda.If he thinks that Asuna is his wife, then in the scene at the church, Asuna cheated on him with Kirito, right in front of his eyes.

No, no, it's just my opinion (and not only mine, most likely) that NTR does not work one - sided. Therefore, I decided to express my "fucking important opinion" (no!) on this matter.

In fact, he literally watched Kirito and Asuna having sex. And it was in IRL, so they're both cuckolds to a certain extent

 

[900bs]

It's been discussed that Kirito's dick is small and doesn't suit Asuna. But I don't think it's the size, it's the fact that he doesn't have any stamina. The weird thing is that they didn't discuss it at all, and he doesn't realize it. Although they've only had sex 6 times at the beginning of the game as far as I remember. I also remember when Kirito attacked Asuna under the aphrodisiac and she said she was glad he didn't have any stamina, at which point she almost had her first orgasm with him.

 

[kinglionheart]

Great I restated the "What is NTR?" conversation again and Mos555 gave a long essay about NTR around the world. I only said what NTR means to F95 since that is what happens here and not what NTR means to each individual. Lol
We should all stop before another mass purge happen.

 

[Aniky Light]

This is the funniest thing about this game - the most important cuckold is Inoda.If he thinks that Asuna is his wife, then in the scene at the church, Asuna cheated on him with Kirito, right in front of his eyes.

No, no, it's just my opinion (and not only mine, most likely) that NTR does not work one - sided. Therefore, I decided to express my "fucking important opinion" (no!) on this matter.

for now Inoda says it in his head that Asuna is his wife, imagine if he told Kirito "stay away from my wife" xD

 

[mos555]

for now Inoda says it in his head that Asuna is his wife, imagine if he told Kirito "stay away from my wife" xD

Well, given that Inoda is obviously mentally ill, he may well do so in the future. The further the case goes, the more naturally the other perceives Asuna. At the church, Inoda tried to command Asuna, but it's still too early. Asuna is ready to obey only during sex. So we are waiting for the scene where Inoda will force Asuna to call him "husband".

Great I restated the "What is NTR?" conversation again and Mos555 gave a long essay about NTR around the world. I only said what NTR means to F95 since that is what happens here and not what NTR means to each individual. Lol
We should all stop before another mass purge happen.

For F95, "netorare" is just a tag, I doubt that this way you can judge the correct NTR in the game or not. I think there are a lot of games in which NTR is just to get into the popular category, but in the end it's garbage. Well, everything I wrote, one way or another, was in the context of what was happening in the SAO game, so I hope the local "Comrade Stalin" won't shoot me.

 

[Aniky Light]

in the future Asuna will say to Kirito: sorry Kirito but I can't today, I have to go to my husband (Inoda)
Kirito: but I'm here
Asuna: um...
Kirito: yes?
Asuna:

 

[Aniky Light]

in the future by fucking with Inoda, Asuna will become as ugly as him and Kirito will say: Inoda, are you cosplaying Asuna? xD