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AlterInfernalAllius

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You just prove my point those other girls are needless distractions. Suguha and Shino are part of Hebishima's story. At least in Part 1, it seem like they will remain only part of his story. But probably because of fan desires to see harems and orgies, those girls who had nothing to do with Inoda now has to be force fitted into Inoda's story.

You are not wrong, I want to see hot sex orgies too. But I just do not want to see a School Days story. If we are getting the harem ending then the dev is only doing what the fans want and as long he does not half-ass it, I won't compliant.
Well, it's a matter of opinion I guess, as someone who actually liked Suguha more than Asuna and was more focused on her in Part 1 I may be biased, but regardless the fact doesn't change that Fujino was going to make them ever since Part 1 and wasn't gonna drop them (Suguha and Shino at least, pretty sure Rika/Liz was just added from a poll I believe?). Whether you consider them needless distractions or not, at least if they're "distractions" that help Inoda's plot along it should be "better" than distractions that took screentime from Inoda's plot anyway, right? At least that's how I see it being a positive for anyone who wanted more focus on Asuna&Inoda, really.

In the end though, this is still Fujino's game and he has the final say in things, so it will be up to him in the end. He may be letting the fans influence him a bit too much given the polls this game has had compared to previous ones, but as long as he doesn't half-ass it indeed I will be satisfied too regardless of what he does.
 

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I feel the only reason people don't like the side content is that it's a WIP game that releases updates every month or two. And they just want more of the content that gets them off. But that is going to hurt the game overall once it's complete, since you will just have the main story that people will blast through.
 

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I feel the only reason people don't like the side content is that it's a WIP game that releases updates every month or two. And they just want more of the content that gets them off. But that is going to hurt the game overall once it's complete, since you will just have the main story that people will blast through.
Side content is fine as long as it is to the side. I don't like going through stuff I don't want to get to the stuff I do. Reminds me too much of grinding, not the fun kind. Like in Part 1, I loved the optional NPC stories. They were there if I wanted to see them but I can skip them if I don't care.
 
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Side content is fine as long as it is to the side. I don't like going through stuff I don't want to get to the stuff I do. Reminds me too much of grinding, not the fun kind. Like in Part 1, I loved the optional NPC stories. They were there if I wanted to see them but I can skip them if I don't care.
Yeah, main difference here is that Fujino decided to do away with those probably because of feedback too, and the Suguha story wasn't something optional in Part 1 and clearly wasn't gonna be in this one either (As it and Alice's had to apparently be going through for the plot to advance), so in that regard I'm still on the side of saying doing away with Hebishima benefits the Inoda plot in the end.
 

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Yeah, main difference here is that Fujino decided to do away with those probably because of feedback too, and the Suguha story wasn't something optional in Part 1 and clearly wasn't gonna be in this one either (As it and Alice's had to apparently be going through for the plot to advance), so in that regard I'm still on the side of saying doing away with Hebishima benefits the Inoda plot in the end.
Those optional NPCs' stories were replaced by canon SAO characters whose story probably won't be optional. Suguha's parts should have been optional from the start. If all her parts were gone, would any part of the story really change? If Hebishima is removed, ideally the girls related to him should be removed too. But I know that wouldn't happen so the next best thing is more orgasmic sex for Inoda and more fuckery for Kirito.
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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Those optional NPCs' stories were replaced by canon SAO characters whose story probably won't be optional. Suguha's parts should have been optional from the start. If all her parts were gone, would any part of the story really change? If Hebishima is removed, ideally the girls related to him should be removed too. But I know that wouldn't happen so the next best thing is more orgasmic sex for Inoda and more fuckery for Kirito.
I mean, as someone who likes Suguha more than Asuna and that found this game hilariously because it had Suguha rather than its main plot I disagree, but that's beside the point: Fujino made it that way from the start, he wasn't gonna remove the non-Asuna girls or their plots regardless if he removes Hebishima or not, so yeah this is probably the next best thing :O
 
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I feel the only reason people don't like the side content is that it's a WIP game that releases updates every month or two. And they just want more of the content that gets them off. But that is going to hurt the game overall once it's complete, since you will just have the main story that people will blast through.
It is kind of annoying especially for all the other girls in Kiritos life. If I'm going for a complete NTR route and all of these girls love Kirito in some way taking away just Asuna is meaningless when he can bounce back with a different girl that's already waiting for their chance. Now since it sounds like he might be planning to do netorase as well then the backup girls should be an option for him. Either way I was never in this just for the Asuna content especially if he's going to include Liz and Sinon.
 
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To be honest hebishima would have been okay if it was side quest to be honest i kinda was interested in the Charlie girlfriend and Manager story i wonder when it started also would could have seen it happen as a side quest
 

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It is kind of annoying especially for all the other girls in Kiritos life. If I'm going for a complete NTR route and all of these girls love Kirito in some way taking away just Asuna is meaningless when he can bounce back with a different girl that's already waiting for their chance. Now since it sounds like he might be planning to do netorase as well then the backup girls should be an option for him. Either way I was never in this just for the Asuna content especially if he's going to include Liz and Sinon.
Yea, I think he is doing a netorase route since it was heavily required. But I hope it is avoidable. When it's not it always lessons the netorare feel for me at the end.

To be honest hebishima would have been okay if it was side quest to be honest i kinda was interested in the Charlie girlfriend and Manager story i wonder when it started also would could have seen it happen as a side quest
Yea, bummed we didn't get to see the full Charlie and his girlfriend and store manager story. I wish he would have at least closed it out with charlie walkin in and seeing his girlfriend and the manager and thats why he leaves for his hometown. Then just have an easter egg in part 2 with sex sounds happening in the store backroom. EZPZ story finished.
 
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Court_Of_Crows56

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I think a lot of you guys are failing to see the potential of a foursome scene with InodaxAsuna and HebishimaXSister. We don’t need Hebishima gone to get Asuna and Suguha in the room together.

Furthermore, I’d hate to lose out on the setup for the library “student sessions” that we got in 0.1 with Hebi and the girls. Imagine that Inoda and Hebi become friends and they start bringing their respective girls there for example.

My opinion is that Inoda being the loser he is getting any girls besides Asuna + her Mom would lessen the impact of it for me. Meanwhile, him getting into a creepy possessive lovey-dovey corruption arc with Asuna where she not only falls for his dick but for him as a person sounds super hot/awesome to me. Again, just my personal preference.

Plus, it would allow us to still get frequent CG’s from the other girls while enjoying the slow burn fall of Asuna without rushing that plot line for instant gratification (and regret when we’re out of content).

In the end, I’ll trust what Fujino does with his work. Oh, and do support them on Patreon if you can!
 

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Hebishima is just a boring character but I think the new characters Klein X Alice would be even more boring, so what they fuck, I don't even know Alice in this game.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I think a lot of you guys are failing to see the potential of a foursome scene with InodaxAsuna and HebishimaXSister. We don’t need Hebishima gone to get Asuna and Suguha in the room together.

Furthermore, I’d hate to lose out on the setup for the library “student sessions” that we got in 0.1 with Hebi and the girls. Imagine that Inoda and Hebi become friends and they start bringing their respective girls there for example.

My opinion is that Inoda being the loser he is getting any girls besides Asuna + her Mom would lessen the impact of it for me. Meanwhile, him getting into a creepy possessive lovey-dovey corruption arc with Asuna where she not only falls for his dick but for him as a person sounds super hot/awesome to me. Again, just my personal preference.

Plus, it would allow us to still get frequent CG’s from the other girls while enjoying the slow burn fall of Asuna without rushing that plot line for instant gratification (and regret when we’re out of content).

In the end, I’ll trust what Fujino does with his work. Oh, and do support them on Patreon if you can!
Thing is, that would 'realistically' make as little sense as Inoda getting all the girls ironically. Hebishima IS a complete piece of shit and Inoda is hated by all for being an ugly fuck, they're even less likely to become any sorta friendly that Inoda is to actually become friend with Kirito for real, so either way would be unrealistic, but the truth of the matter is that none of that is crossing Fujino's mind (Also Lisbeth at the very least was ALSO gonna end up 'prey' to Inoda regardless of these new possible changes, the setup of the first update already all but confirmed that).

But yeah, in the end this "get rid of Hebishima" possibility wasn't done at all because of Fujino thinking of a more proper way for the story to go, is because most people didn't care for Hebishima storyline period and he decided to bring up the chance that let him have to work less in a whole section of the game most player seemingly didn't really appreciate at all. In the end the only reason Hebishima existed was so there was another more 'realistic' plot of Suguha getting NTR-ed, but if most of the people commenting to him don't care for that and just want more of Inoda's plot then removing Hebishima's plot and using the girls that were gonna be his for Inoda's plot of getting Asuna is the most logical outcome (Because as mentioned before, Fujino wasn't gonna remove the girls period, he already made their models and everything after all and at the very least he willingly chose Suguha to be a part of the game since the beginning).

Also, this may just be me personally but when I wanted to see a Suguha x Asuna scene I didn't want it to be each with a different dick in them, but an actual threesome XP

Hebishima is just a boring character but I think the new characters Klein X Alice would be even more boring, so what they fuck, I don't even know Alice in this game.
Oh yeah, I agree with that, though to be fair we still don't even know if Klein WAS gonna get lucky with Alice, as someone mentioned earlier he could have been brought to replace "Charlie" and despite him not being Kirito he, like almost every decent male in this world, was getting NTR-d too in Part 1, Alice could have very well just have been set up to end up falling prey to the prostitution ring she's basically roping Kirito and Klein into investigating with her, but I agree it felt like the 'weakest' of the 3 plots being set up for Part 2, mainly because it didn't have any build-up from Part 1 and because Alice was made even more of a complete OC than anyone else in the game just to fit within a NTR plot, being nothing like her actual character at all (I think this may be because, I'm pretty sure, Alice and Lisbeth were only added to the game because of a poll and not an original plan of Fujino back in Part 1, so he had to set up something completely new for Alice as he yet wasn't thinking back then that "most people only just cares for Inoda's plot").

So either Fujino didn't offer to get rid of Klein over Hebishima because he wasn't gonna get any to begin with or because he thought immediately getting rid of him after he had just introduced him would be a waste too, while Hebishima has been (literally) fucking around since Part 1.

At the end of the day though, we're gonna have to wait a while to see what he decided, maybe a week or two when he releases the next update he will have come to a decision/conclusion whether following the poll or not.
 

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The current plot of the second episode is facing a major bottleneck, which is how to bring back the physical intimacy between Asuna and Inoda. Even if Asuna forgives Inoda, it's difficult to create a plot where she agrees to have sex again.
Simply relying on desire doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But I'm also struggling to come up with a more logically consistent plot. It's definitely a challenge for Fujino. I have my doubts about how he will balance this important issue in the plot after putting so much emphasis on CGs.
If anyone can come up with a logical plot that doesn't compromise the established character development, I hope they can leave their suggestions on Patreon.
 

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The current plot of the second episode is facing a major bottleneck, which is how to bring back the physical intimacy between Asuna and Inoda. Even if Asuna forgives Inoda, it's difficult to create a plot where she agrees to have sex again.
Simply relying on desire doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But I'm also struggling to come up with a more logically consistent plot. It's definitely a challenge for Fujino. I have my doubts about how he will balance this important issue in the plot after putting so much emphasis on CGs.
If anyone can come up with a logical plot that doesn't compromise the established character development, I hope they can leave their suggestions on Patreon.
My best guess is Kyoto will be used to create jealousy. Inoda uses Kyoto to make Asuna think he moved on from her. We know Asuna is getting lustier since Kirito can't satisfy her anymore and we know Asuna don't like her mother. She calls her awful woman or something. So while her lust is increasing maybe through Inoda doing things to her in-game, she finds out all sex Inoda is giving to Kyoto in real world. Basically he is doing all the things he wants with her to her mother. Until eventually her brain convinces her if she had sex with Inoda it would be for his sake not hers. Like she is saving him from Kyoto.
 
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My best guess is Kyoto will be used to create jealousy. Inoda uses Kyoto to make Asuna think he moved on from her. We know Asuna is getting lustier since Kirito can't satisfy her anymore and we know Asuna don't like her mother. She calls her awful woman or something. So while her lust is increasing maybe through Inoda doing things to her in-game, she finds out all sex Inoda is giving to Kyoto in real world. Basically he is doing all the things he wants with her to her mother. Until eventually her brain convinces her if she had sex with Inoda it would be for his sake not hers. Like she is saving him from Kyoto.
*Kyouko (but then again who cares to remember the name of Asuna's mom lol)

Adding to that, there is Lisbeth too. Whether Hebishima is removed or not and the other girls added to the main plot or not, Fujino has already set-up that Liz will somehow be used by Inoda, is very likely he will use something to blackmail her to into helping him with his plot to steal Asuna (Also likely he will fuck her too, but that goes without saying). Not very clear yet how to or what he would do it, especially as we have very little to go on there, but at the very least we know that.
 
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Thing is, that would 'realistically' make as little sense as Inoda getting all the girls ironically. Hebishima IS a complete piece of shit and Inoda is hated by all for being an ugly fuck, they're even less likely to become any sorta friendly that Inoda is to actually become friend with Kirito for real, so either way would be unrealistic, but the truth of the matter is that none of that is crossing Fujino's mind (Also Lisbeth at the very least was ALSO gonna end up 'prey' to Inoda regardless of these new possible changes, the setup of the first update already all but confirmed that).

But yeah, in the end this "get rid of Hebishima" possibility wasn't done at all because of Fujino thinking of a more proper way for the story to go, is because most people didn't care for Hebishima storyline period and he decided to bring up the chance that let him have to work less in a whole section of the game most player seemingly didn't really appreciate at all. In the end the only reason Hebishima existed was so there was another more 'realistic' plot of Suguha getting NTR-ed, but if most of the people commenting to him don't care for that and just want more of Inoda's plot then removing Hebishima's plot and using the girls that were gonna be his for Inoda's plot of getting Asuna is the most logical outcome (Because as mentioned before, Fujino wasn't gonna remove the girls period, he already made their models and everything after all and at the very least he willingly chose Suguha to be a part of the game since the beginning).

Also, this may just be me personally but when I wanted to see a Suguha x Asuna scene I didn't want it to be each with a different dick in them, but an actual threesome XP
That’s a totally fair take! And one I didn’t actually consider before, so thanks for sharing it.


My best guess is Kyoto will be used to create jealousy. Inoda uses Kyoto to make Asuna think he moved on from her. We know Asuna is getting lustier since Kirito can't satisfy her anymore and we know Asuna don't like her mother. She calls her awful woman or something. So while her lust is increasing maybe through Inoda doing things to her in-game, she finds out all sex Inoda is giving to Kyoto in real world. Basically he is doing all the things he wants with her to her mother. Until eventually her brain convinces her if she had sex with Inoda it would be for his sake not hers. Like she is saving him from Kyoto.
Wow! I really like that idea, make sure to share it on the Patreon. (Or else I might, lol).
 

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fujino is going decide what he decides im just wondering how is he is going to do alice story and lisbeth will they get corrupted by inoda or diffrent men?
 

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fujino is going decide what he decides im just wondering how is he is going to do alice story and lisbeth will they get corrupted by inoda or diffrent men?
Lisbeth is all but confirmed that she was gonna get fucked by Inoda, if the fact that she was literally part of the main plot wasn't enough, if you look at Inoda's blog his last entry mentions he knows she has been looking at him closely lately (Probably suspicious of his intentions), that he has noticed she's into Kirito, and now is wondering how to use that to his advantage.

Alice is harder to say, some think Klein was gonna get lucky with her, the other most likely outcome is that she would fall to the porn/prostitution ring the her plot was setting up for her, Kirito, and Klein to investigate, but we just have way too little info on her character or storyline yet to know for sure.
 
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