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Suguha is my favorite SAO girl, so I unironically from the beginning have been hoping that Hebishima somehow gets removed and she gets 'stolen' by Inoda if only because Inoda 100% seems like the type that actually would 'keep' all his women if only out of his obsession/possessiveness while Hebishima has just fucked and thrown away 98 of them so far (And also because I would like to see a Suguha x Asuna threesome before the game ends, but that's beside the point XP).
hmm, ok, lets weigh bad against bad :) Puting aside, that both Inoda and Hebishima are shit. Before that, I may have forgotten some details, It's been a while since I played part 1,so you are welcome to correct me ;)

I think Hebishima is actually the 'better' guy. Sure, he's a terrible person and treats girls badly, but at least he doesn't hide his intentions. Also, to my knowledge he didn't rape Suguha, unlike Inoda did with Asuna.
 
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hmm, ok, lets weigh bad against bad :) Puting aside, that both Inoda and Hebishima are shit. Before that, I may have forgotten some details, It's been a while since I played part 1,so you are welcome to correct me ;)

I think Hebishima is actually the 'better' guy. Sure, he's a terrible person and treats girls badly, but at least he doesn't hide his intentions. Also, to my knowledge he didn't rape Suguha, unlike Inoda did with Asuna.
If we are comparing bad and worst then Hebishima is definitely worse. His only interest in Suguha is having another notch on his bedpost. With Suguha being his 100th woman. Of course Inoda is in the same race as him but Hebishima has much bigger head start. Also if the theories are correct, Hebishima is involved with the drug tracking Alice is investigating.
 

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If we are comparing bad and worst then Hebishima is definitely worse. His only interest in Suguha is having another notch on his bedpost. With Suguha being his 100th woman. Of course Inoda is in the same race as him but Hebishima has much bigger head start. Also if the theories are correct, Hebishima is involved with the drug tracking Alice is investigating.
I mean, it's all factual and theoretical. But you have to consider that drugs are treated very differently in Asia, for good reasons. In Japan, cannabis is illegal, even for medical use. So if he sells some weed on the corner, for me, it's not as bad as rape, that's for sure. :D"
 

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hmm, ok, lets weigh bad against bad :) Puting aside, that both Inoda and Hebishima are shit. Before that, I may have forgotten some details, It's been a while since I played part 1,so you are welcome to correct me ;)

I think Hebishima is actually the 'better' guy. Sure, he's a terrible person and treats girls badly, but at least he doesn't hide his intentions. Also, to my knowledge he didn't rape Suguha, unlike Inoda did with Asuna.
Hebishima literally drugged Suguha to get her under his thumb the first time, it feels like you and King are forgetting that. Regardless of if he's involved with the trafficking ring or not, he IS a criminal, especially as he got those illegally by having Sinon nab them for him after fucking her into his sex slave. So yeah, like, Inoda IS a piece of shit, 100%, but at least so far as of now he seems obsessed enough with his women to keep them, unlike Hebishima, as shown by how the first thing he did was to make Kyouko break up with all her fuck-boys, while Hebishima has Sinon expose herself online in livestreams to make money, all of which he's no doubt keeping. In a lesser-of-2-evils case in a game where none of the girls will have any sort of 'happy' ending in the conventional sense given it's a world ruled by NTR Tropes, Inoda is hilariously the better choice XP
 

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Hebishima literally drugged Suguha to get her under his thumb the first time, it feels like you and King are forgetting that. Regardless of if he's involved with the trafficking ring or not, he IS a criminal, especially as he got those illegally by having Sinon nab them for him after fucking her into his sex slave. So yeah, like, Inoda IS a piece of shit, 100%, but at least so far as of now he seems obsessed enough with his women to keep them, unlike Hebishima, as shown by how the first thing he did was to make Kyouko break up with all her fuck-boys, while Hebishima has Sinon expose herself online in livestreams to make money, all of which he's no doubt keeping. In a lesser-of-2-evils case in a game where none of the girls will have any sort of 'happy' ending in the conventional sense given it's a world ruled by NTR Tropes, Inoda is hilariously the better choice XP
I didn't say about the drugging Suguha because it was not clear if he gave her drugs or just got her drunk. Even if it was drug, Inoda still tried to use a aphrodisiac candle to seduce Asuna. It was fake but he did not know that.

They are the same type of person and pretty much the difference between the two is experience. If Inoda ever got sick of Asuna and decided to clean himself up, I am sure Inoda would do all the same things as Hebishima to get more women. Just look at how he got Kyouko.
 

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Hebishima literally drugged Suguha to get her under his thumb the first time, it feels like you and King are forgetting that. Regardless of if he's involved with the trafficking ring or not, he IS a criminal, especially as he got those illegally by having Sinon nab them for him after fucking her into his sex slave. So yeah, like, Inoda IS a piece of shit, 100%, but at least so far as of now he seems obsessed enough with his women to keep them, unlike Hebishima, as shown by how the first thing he did was to make Kyouko break up with all her fuck-boys, while Hebishima has Sinon expose herself online in livestreams to make money, all of which he's no doubt keeping. In a lesser-of-2-evils case in a game where none of the girls will have any sort of 'happy' ending in the conventional sense given it's a world ruled by NTR Tropes, Inoda is hilariously the better choice XP
aah, I see, that drugged thing, I forgot. As for Inoda, he is a rapist, which means, also a criminal. So for me, they are both the worse. case closed ^^

The thing is, to me, if all girls end up on Inoda, that would be boring as hell. I want total corruption :ROFLMAO:
 

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I hope asuna isnt just doing Inoda, hope the church event is still in, or at least the old fisher guy cameo maybe.
As for Suguha, never been a fan of her character personaly, but i get some like her apeal, its just that Hebishima is sorta a unlikeable character for her to be with and it doesnt feel like cheating, since she is kirito"s sister she is allowed to be whoever she wants to be even tho its lewd.
 

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I hope asuna isnt just doing Inoda, hope the church event is still in, or at least the old fisher guy cameo maybe.
As for Suguha, never been a fan of her character personaly, but i get some like her apeal, its just that Hebishima is sorta a unlikeable character for her to be with and it doesnt feel like cheating, since she is kirito"s sister she is allowed to be whoever she wants to be even tho its lewd.
Agree on Asuna; she should have complete freedom of sexual expression. :D As for Suguha, I like her story way more, as it is more realistic, then the main story, which is just generic ntr. She understands, that her bro wouldn't bang her, so she is lonely and frustrated, thus falling into the clutches of a bad guy .)
 
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I didn't say about the drugging Suguha because it was not clear if he gave her drugs or just got her drunk. Even if it was drug, Inoda still tried to use a aphrodisiac candle to seduce Asuna. It was fake but he did not know that.

They are the same type of person and pretty much the difference between the two is experience. If Inoda ever got sick of Asuna and decided to clean himself up, I am sure Inoda would do all the same things as Hebishima to get more women. Just look at how he got Kyouko.
It actually was, but you need to remember the whole subtext of the game to do so, checking the forums you will see Hebishima actually got Sinon to get him some real drugs he spiked his drink with the first time in the karaoke, AND then the second time at the cafe, that's how he recorded her masturbating while moaning for Kirito and managed to blackmail her into start doing sexual things with him :O

I hope asuna isnt just doing Inoda, hope the church event is still in, or at least the old fisher guy cameo maybe.
As for Suguha, never been a fan of her character personaly, but i get some like her apeal, its just that Hebishima is sorta a unlikeable character for her to be with and it doesnt feel like cheating, since she is kirito"s sister she is allowed to be whoever she wants to be even tho its lewd.
Agree on Asuna; she should have complete freedom of sexual expression. :D As for Suguha, I like her story way more, as it is more realistic, then the main story, which is just generic ntr. She understands, that her bro wouldn't bang her, so she is lonely and frustrated, thus falling into the clutches of a bad guy .)

Asuna has already been confirmed several times that she will only be fucking Inoda, this is something Fujino refused to buldge in, even when he offered the possibility of the other girls getting fucked maybe by others Asuna was the only one he left out of the poll.

Regarding Suguha, see that's the issue, WAY too many people in SAO Hentai just throw her into "NTR" situations just because she's in love with Kirito, completely missing both the point of her choosing his happiness over her feelings and also that she's literally the one out of all the girls that Kazuto actively rejected, so NO situation where she's getting fucked by others is 'NTR'. Hilariously, the only actual NTR one could make of Suguha would be if they had her fucking Kirito against his will behind Asuna's back in the hope of stealing him from her, but because NTR of named series usually focuses more on screwing over the MC than on the actual literal meaning of NTR this never happens. I think legit I have only ever seen one doujin like that specifically involving Suguha (And one of Liz), one of my favorites, it had her going full-on yandere on him while he was trapped in SAO and was constantly riding his dick whenever he was doing it with Asuna in the game, then when he logs out at the end of S1 she's waiting there for him in the shadows with a full-on pregnant belly giving him a 'Welcome back, Onii-chan~'. Legit amazing and much better than all the generic NTR most usually write of SAO XP
 

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Regarding Suguha, see that's the issue, WAY too many people in SAO Hentai just throw her into "NTR" situations just because she's in love with Kirito, completely missing both the point of her choosing his happiness over her feelings and also that she's literally the one out of all the girls that Kazuto actively rejected, so NO situation where she's getting fucked by others is 'NTR'. Hilariously, the only actual NTR one could make of Suguha would be if they had her fucking Kirito against his will behind Asuna's back in the hope of stealing him from her, but because NTR of named series usually focuses more on screwing over the MC than on the actual literal meaning of NTR this never happens. I think legit I have only ever seen one doujin like that specifically involving Suguha (And one of Liz), one of my favorites, it had her going full-on yandere on him while he was trapped in SAO and was constantly riding his dick whenever he was doing it with Asuna in the game, then when he logs out at the end of S1 she's waiting there for him in the shadows with a full-on pregnant belly giving him a 'Welcome back, Onii-chan~'. Legit amazing and much better than all the generic NTR most usually write of SAO XP
Really? People consider her to be part of the NTR, LOL? :D ok...

But she is in the game, so I like that at least she gets a full corruption story. :)
 

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Really? People consider her to be part of the NTR, LOL? :D ok...

But she is in the game, so I like that at least she gets a full corruption story. :)
Asuna is the one with the most NTR doujins/hentai without a doubt, but whenever someone is making full-on NTR they involve the other SAO girls and usually tag it as NTR because of that, is just a very widespread way of thinking considering that as long as the girl has feelings for the MC if you draw her getting fucked by someone else it's immediately NTR, even though SAO is one of the rare pieces of media where the MC chose and stuck with his girl practically from the beginning XP

And well, that's the thing, she IS fully corrupted, but there is not a bit of 'realism' in it like you said :p Like, it would be 'realistic' if these were generic OCs, but it's not at all for Suguha's character, hell, Fujino actually had to twist the timeline into a big mess just to make her feel as 'NTR' as possible. Like, Kirito has nightmares about Oberon fucking Asuna, which means the Fairy Dance Arc happened, but somehow that's impossible because clearly Suguha never met him as Leafa in ALO here. The only reason for this plot hole is so that she can't have 'confessed' to him already, which would make Hebishima blackmailing her into his new fuck-buddy in the most cliche NTR way possible impossible if it had happened :3

The thing is, if I have to choose between Inoda and Hebishima, I choose Inoda not because he's better or I like him (Hell I particularly dislike ugly bastards, feel like one of the worst NTR Tropes as if going one NEEDS to be an ugly/old fat loser to not get girls, LOL), but because he's the 'MC', and if it allows even a bit of karmic justice to fall on the other walking NTR cliche that is Hebishima I will feel satisfied. Suguha sure as hell isn't gonna get 'saved' at all, this is not this type of game, but if Inoda wins over Hebishima at least SOMEONE will get punished for screwing her life XP
 

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Really? People consider her to be part of the NTR, LOL? :D ok...

But she is in the game, so I like that at least she gets a full corruption story. :)
ANY woman near the protagonist is part of NTR. Even Kirito's mother and the nurse who took care of him, only appearing a few times in the story, are NTR targets.

If Fujino keeps Hebishima then I can see Suguha getting a full corruption story. But he axes him then who knows what will happen. Maybe she will be rolled into Inoda's harem like some wants or maybe she will be put on a bus to Sakura's village.
 
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ANY woman near the protagonist is part of NTR. Even Kirito's mother and the nurse who took care of him, only appearing a few times in the story, are NTR targets.

If Fujino keeps Hebishima then I can see Suguha getting a full corruption story. But he axes him then who knows what will happen. Maybe she will be rolled into Inoda's harem like some wants or maybe she will be put on a bus to Sakura's village.
LMAO, you just reminded me this is and the Scathach/Sakura games apparently take place in the same Universe XD

Anyway, there is no way that last bit happens, as mentioned earlier Fujino clearly WANTS to lewd the girls so he's not gonna get rid of them one way or another, the only thing that may change is who ends up fucking them. Like, I have half-accepted is very likely Hebishima stays, but if he doesn't then there is no way Fujino will just write Suguha out of the story just for the fact he clearly wants to keep making H-scenes with her, she's basically the character with the most H-scenes after Asuna.
 

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It actually was, but you need to remember the whole subtext of the game to do so, checking the forums you will see Hebishima actually got Sinon to get him some real drugs he spiked his drink with the first time in the karaoke, AND then the second time at the cafe, that's how he recorded her masturbating while moaning for Kirito and managed to blackmail her into start doing sexual things with him :O






Asuna has already been confirmed several times that she will only be fucking Inoda, this is something Fujino refused to buldge in, even when he offered the possibility of the other girls getting fucked maybe by others Asuna was the only one he left out of the poll.

Regarding Suguha, see that's the issue, WAY too many people in SAO Hentai just throw her into "NTR" situations just because she's in love with Kirito, completely missing both the point of her choosing his happiness over her feelings and also that she's literally the one out of all the girls that Kazuto actively rejected, so NO situation where she's getting fucked by others is 'NTR'. Hilariously, the only actual NTR one could make of Suguha would be if they had her fucking Kirito against his will behind Asuna's back in the hope of stealing him from her, but because NTR of named series usually focuses more on screwing over the MC than on the actual literal meaning of NTR this never happens. I think legit I have only ever seen one doujin like that specifically involving Suguha (And one of Liz), one of my favorites, it had her going full-on yandere on him while he was trapped in SAO and was constantly riding his dick whenever he was doing it with Asuna in the game, then when he logs out at the end of S1 she's waiting there for him in the shadows with a full-on pregnant belly giving him a 'Welcome back, Onii-chan~'. Legit amazing and much better than all the generic NTR most usually write of SAO XP
I vaguely remember that. Or maybe it was just discussed before. I may have to go and find it for... research purposes.
 

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ANY woman near the protagonist is part of NTR. Even Kirito's mother and the nurse who took care of him, only appearing a few times in the story, are NTR targets.

If Fujino keeps Hebishima then I can see Suguha getting a full corruption story. But he axes him then who knows what will happen. Maybe she will be rolled into Inoda's harem like some wants or maybe she will be put on a bus to Sakura's village.
A trip to the Mountains of Sakura's Village, now, that can be a truly bonding experience. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I vaguely remember that. Or maybe it was just discussed before. I may have to go and find it for... research purposes.
No, it IS, or at least background-wise: Early in the game they mention that the village where Kirito's filler NPC friend from part 1 (Can't remember his actual name only the wrongly translated 'Charlie') came from and went back with his girlfriend (And the boss who is NTR-ing her) was actually badly hit by the typhoon of the end of Part 1. Aka, they're talking of the same village from Sakura Chapter and how the typhoon there hits and leaves half the village isolated for most of that game XP
 
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No, it IS, or at least background-wise: Early in the game they mention that the village where Kirito's filler NPC friend from part 1 (Can't remember his actual name only the wrongly translated 'Charlie') came from and went back with his girlfriend (And the boss who is NTR-ing her) was actually badly hit by the typhoon of the end of Part 1. Aka, they're talking of the same village from Sakura Chapter and how the typhoon there hits and leaves half the village isolated for most of that game XP
Sorry, I meant the Suguha doujin you were referring to :D
 

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I think many are forgetting what happened in the first part, the only one who was raped so far was suguha because hebishima drugged her, maybe also Sinon the reason why he is still not caught is because he has an ally who is alice's friend who is a cop just remember the scene of the van, I also believe that the drug trafficking is including the head of the store as he was seen a lot and disappeared when Alice began to investigate more. in the case of inoda it was never a rape, the candle was fake and it was only his skills that seduced her, kyoko's was simply blackmail.
 

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I think many are forgetting what happened in the first part, the only one who was raped so far was suguha because hebishima drugged her, maybe also Sinon the reason why he is still not caught is because he has an ally who is alice's friend who is a cop just remember the scene of the van, I also believe that the drug trafficking is including the head of the store as he was seen a lot and disappeared when Alice began to investigate more. in the case of inoda it was never a rape, the candle was fake and it was only his skills that seduced her, kyoko's was simply blackmail.
Inoda raped Asuna in her room, while she was online (oral abuse is also a sexual violence). Also, the last night of Part 1, was 100% rape. But that's how the character is written, he "developed" from cunningness to harrasment to rape. That I actually like, from a storywriting prospective about him.
 
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