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Queen_Nothing

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Hey, I don't know if I bugged it somehow but I can't seem to find a way to trigger the Hebishima and Leafa part? I went before the orcs and "saved" Hebishima, then went and did the orcs and then I saw Hebishima and Leafa talking on the guild, but then for some reason I can't do anything, if I go to the church to trigger Liz distracting Kirito from 'intruding' in Inoda's 'confession', next time the guild is empty and at the inn I just get a prompt in a room that says 'silent now, that couple has stopped fighting'. What did I do wrong?
I think you can see Hebishima fucking Sinon outside at that time. You can just about see their sprites behind a tree.
 

gaka200

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I think you can see Hebishima fucking Sinon outside at that time. You can just about see their sprites behind a tree.
I noticed this too, and I think it's either a bug, or Fujino forgot to get rid of the sprites he left over them to use from the Sinon/Hebishima from that fish quest a while ago.
 
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4-kun

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Hey, is there any extra bit that I missed? I went and saved him, saw them arguing at the guild, but then afterward I can only go to the church to trigger Liz distracting Kirito and after that if I go to the inn there is no evidence of sex, just that they're having a conversation/argument judging by the 'bubbles' popping in from the room, but Kirito DOES say something about a 'couple having stopped arguing' so it feels like I missed something.



Okay, I actually tried several ways and I'm convinced that unless I missed some super-esoteric trigger, there is in fact no sex, or at least not apparent, they just argued. Also, analyzing the full scene I have come to certain conclusions: Hebishima was NOT meant to be there fighting Mokai (The Tree Boss) alone, judging from Leafa in the background and the 'emotion bubbles' she gets during that whole sequence it looks like she may have purposefully lured him in there to get his ass kicked by it (Also she fangirled when Kirito killed the thing and then took Hebishima away like a sack of potatoes, which you can tell by the hearts popping up during those moments). I'm gonna wait for Niselaro to answer what I asked above if I missed something else, but if not the interesting thing here is that not only did Leafa not have sex at all with Hebishima after the 2 days where she very likely may have raped Kirito while unconscious, she may have actually tried to screw him over out of her own will :3
That makes sense, so this update was even more Sugu focused. It seems like a way out of the fangs of Heshibama has been laid.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I think you can see Hebishima fucking Sinon outside at that time. You can just about see their sprites behind a tree.
Like someone else said, LMAO, that's apparently a bug, is a remain of the older scene where we could spy on Hebishima fucking Sinon online, at this time it pops up Hebishima is STILL at the Guild, and he's accounted for all other times XD Unless someone else can correct me otherwise, shockingly, it seems Hebishima did not, in fact, fuck anyone even once in this update, at least as far as the main plot shows. I can't get the Inn bit to trigger anything except heavily hinting Leafa was seemingly mad at him or vice versa and they were arguing, but there are no sex noises nor sound effects or anything that indicates they were getting it on there.

That makes sense, so this update was even more Sugu focused. It seems like a way out of the fangs of Heshibama has been laid.
This was even more of a fun surprise that I'm sad I missed the first time, and seeing they apparently did not end up having sex like Niselaro commented makes it even better. This makes the first interaction with Hebishima we see of Suguha after her Yandere Episode and probably having gotten addicted to her Onii-chan's unwilling dick is to try and get him killed in-game, then having an argument that did not actually get resolved by him fucking her, lmao XD
 

icyair

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Hmm, interesting points, but it's too late for that. Inoda does everything better, except fighting. But I completely agree that changing him out of nowhere to be the funny, lovely, caring guy turns the story into some melodrama :)

Damn, now that I think about it, many melodramas involve NTR. :eek::eek::eek:
I think fujino overdid it in slowing down and creating atmosphere, the game became like a Brazilian serials with a thousand episodes, we have a bunch of text and only flashbacks and dreams.
the fight with the tree was the only bright light in this realm of text and flashbacks . And that's all fucked up and we have a ton of text again.
If you read everything the game is already on many hours. how long can it last, already the feeling that you are playing a strange romantic bullshit.
No suspense, no mystery, no excitement, no NTR. If it keeps going on like this the interest to the game will just burn out.
(no offense to fuji or the game, just my thoughts)
 

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I think fujino overdid it in slowing down and creating atmosphere, the game became like a Brazilian serials with a thousand episodes, we have a bunch of text and only flashbacks and dreams.
the fight with the tree was the only bright light in this realm of text and flashbacks . And that's all fucked up and we have a ton of text again.
If you read everything the game is already on many hours. how long can it last, already the feeling that you are playing a strange romantic bullshit.
No suspense, no mystery, no excitement, no NTR. If it keeps going on like this the interest to the game will just burn out.
(no offense to fuji or the game, just my thoughts)
he need balance all thing
 
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4-kun

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Hey, is there any extra bit that I missed? I went and saved him, saw them arguing at the guild, but then afterward I can only go to the church to trigger Liz distracting Kirito and after that if I go to the inn there is no evidence of sex, just that they're having a conversation/argument judging by the 'bubbles' popping in from the room, but Kirito DOES say something about a 'couple having stopped arguing' so it feels like I missed something.



Okay, I actually tried several ways and I'm convinced that unless I missed some super-esoteric trigger, there is in fact no sex, or at least not apparent, they just argued. Also, analyzing the full scene I have come to certain conclusions: Hebishima was NOT meant to be there fighting Mokai (The Tree Boss) alone, judging from Leafa in the background and the 'emotion bubbles' she gets during that whole sequence it looks like she may have purposefully lured him in there to get his ass kicked by it (Also she fangirled when Kirito killed the thing and then took Hebishima away like a sack of potatoes, which you can tell by the hearts popping up during those moments). I'm gonna wait for Niselaro to answer what I asked above if I missed something else, but if not the interesting thing here is that not only did Leafa not have sex at all with Hebishima after the 2 days where she very likely may have raped Kirito while unconscious, she may have actually tried to screw him over out of her own will :3
That makes sense, so this update was even more Sugu focused, seen like a way out of the fangs of Heshibama.gas been layed
After this update, I already get the feeling that in just a little while Asuna and Inoda will become best friends and so on. :confused:
Yes, but perverted friends )))
 

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I didn't really have the impression that Inoda is necessarily changing for the better, and is just overall still tricking Asuna in his own twisted simp like way. If his approach seems more romantic, I'd probably equate that to Liz's introduction to the story since she's guiding him and trying to make him take advantage of Asuna's emotionally weak moments to further their agenda.

Like the Handjob scene and invisible thighjob is still Inoda being a horny scumbag and in reference to those two scenes, he's doing things that Liz mainly pointed out for him to do. Like he wouldn't have gone to see Asuna at the gym or buy a necklace as a gift if he wasn't heeding Liz's advice. The confessional scene is him literally forgetting the story that Liz told him to tell.

I got the impression that the showcasing of Inoda's inner struggles was probably just what he thinks about the situations at times. Like him being mad at Kirito during the Kitchen scene, or Inoda initially regretting what he said in the gym closet thinking that it would prevent him from getting further advancement towards sex (that is until Asuna said a handjob is fine). Or maybe in Kyouko's case.

An issue I feel that makes this suck for people is probably the monthly updates and being fed content in a drip feed manner makes the overall experience feel like it's a drag or taking longer than it really is. Ideally Fujino should release updates at a 2-3 month interval which if you think about it is like 15 - 30 CGs and probably 7 - 10 in-game days worth of content that Fujino could be releasing at a time. It's also more likely that Fujino reaches the pay off moments that they were building up to in the same updates. So the best advice if it's annoying might be to just wait for a longer period of time. I'm so far fine with how it's going, but I'm probably easily going to be swayed to being more annoyed if overall little progress has been made by I don't know, maybe May I guess? Since I assume by May we should have gotten like 7 total monthly updates for Part 2 (assuming the monthly updates continue).
 
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4-kun

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he need balance all thing
yeah, it's hard. The audience is split into two main groups with contrasting views: one wishing to quicken the progress and another desiring a slow corruption. Fujino's own vision also plays a role in this division.
 

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I didn't really have the impression that Inoda is necessarily changing for the better, and is just overall still tricking Asuna in his own twisted simp like way. If his approach seems more romantic, I'd probably equate that to Liz's introduction to the story since she's guiding him and trying to make him take advantage of Asuna's emotionally weak moments to further their agenda.

Like the Handjob scene and invisible thighjob is still Inoda being a horny scumbag and in reference to those two scenes, he's doing things that Liz mainly pointed out for him to do. Like he wouldn't have gone to see Asuna at the gym or buy a necklace as a gift if he wasn't heeding Liz's advice. The confessional scene is him literally forgetting the story that Liz told him to tell.

I got the impression that the showcasing of Inoda's inner struggles was probably just what he thinks about the situations at times. Like him being mad at Kirito during the Kitchen scene, or Inoda initially regretting what he said in the gym closet thinking that it would prevent him from getting further advancement towards sex (that is until Asuna said a handjob is fine). Or maybe in Kyouko's case.

An issue I feel that makes this suck for people is probably the monthly updates and being fed content in a drip feed manner makes the overall experience feel like it's a drag or taking longer than it really is. Ideally Fujino should release updates at a 2-3 month interval which if you think about it is like 15 - 30 CGs and probably 7 - 10 in-game days worth of content that Fujino could be releasing at a time. It's also more likely that Fujino reaches the pay off moments that they were building up to in the same updates. So the best advice if it's annoying might be to just wait for a longer period of time. I'm so far fine with how it's going, but I'm probably easily going to be swayed to being more annoyed if overall little progress has been made by I don't know, maybe May I guess? Since I assume by May we should have gotten like 7 total monthly updates for Part 2 (assuming the monthly updates continue).
next update look good
 

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yeah, it's hard. The audience is split into two main groups with contrasting views: one wishing to quicken the progress and another desiring a slow corruption. Fujino's own vision also plays a role in this division.
all thing they want is CG to fap
 

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I didn't really have the impression that Inoda is necessarily changing for the better, and is just overall still tricking Asuna in his own twisted simp like way. If his approach seems more romantic, I'd probably equate that to Liz's introduction to the story since she's guiding him and trying to make him take advantage of Asuna's emotionally weak moments to further their agenda.

Like the Handjob scene and invisible thighjob is still Inoda being a horny scumbag and in reference to those two scenes, he's doing things that Liz mainly pointed out for him to do. Like he wouldn't have gone to see Asuna at the gym or buy a necklace as a gift if he wasn't heeding Liz's advice. The confessional scene is him literally forgetting the story that Liz told him to tell.

I got the impression that the showcasing of Inoda's inner struggles was probably just what he thinks about the situations at times. Like him being mad at Kirito during the Kitchen scene, or Inoda initially regretting what he said in the gym closet thinking that it would prevent him from getting further advancement towards sex (that is until Asuna said a handjob is fine). Or maybe in Kyouko's case.

An issue I feel that makes this suck for people is probably the monthly updates and being fed content in a drip feed manner makes the overall experience feel like it's a drag or taking longer than it really is. Ideally Fujino should release updates at a 2-3 month interval which if you think about it is like 15 - 30 CGs and probably 7 - 10 in-game days worth of content that Fujino could be releasing at a time. It's also more likely that Fujino reaches the pay off moments that they were building up to in the same updates. So the best advice if it's annoying might be to just wait for a longer period of time. I'm so far fine with how it's going, but I'm probably easily going to be swayed to being more annoyed if overall little progress has been made by I don't know, maybe May I guess? Since I assume by May we should have gotten like 7 total monthly updates for Part 2 (assuming the monthly updates continue).
Absolutely, short time releases are a pain in the ass, as he's under pressure to deliver enough content to please the audience, instead of focusing on maybe complete arcs
 

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on ci-en chinese complain too...

我只想说,桐人不是只会道歉的弱智,我不想看黄毛追女主的扭曲爱情故事,明明第一部设定挺好的,双强加女主圣母,慢慢身体堕落,现在变成了亚丝娜要变心了,桐人变小丑了,那这部作品就变成了披着刀剑皮的NTR游戏了,跟桐亚是分离的了,桐人是自信的,是有实力的,也不是家境贫寒的小人物,他各方面能力都不差,正是因为这种双强的铺垫,才会让NTR感更刺激,好好想想吧,没人想看女主开后宫,跟黄毛谈恋爱的,希望您能想清楚这部作品最初的精髓在哪里,PS真的很讨厌利兹在这里小仙女味爆棚的角色形象。

google translate: I just want to say that Kirito is not a retarded person who only knows how to apologize. I don’t want to watch a twisted love story about Huang Mao chasing the heroine. The setting of the first part is obviously very good. They forced the heroine to be a virgin, and her body gradually deteriorated. Now she has changed Asuna will have a change of heart, and Kirito will become a clown, then this work will become an NTR game with a sword skin, and Kirito will be separated from Kirito. Kirito will be confident and capable. , he is not a small person from a poor family, he is not bad in all aspects. It is precisely because of this kind of foreshadowing of two powerful people that makes NTR feel more exciting. Think about it, no one wants to see the heroine opening a harem and having sex with pornographic women. Mao is in love, I hope you can think clearly about the original essence of this work. PS really hates Liz’s fairy-like character image here.

some one comment: Do you think this is a dei NTR game? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to rename it Inoda's Love Adventure? Kirito should be confident that the other person will not leave him and be satisfied with himself.
 

Niselaro

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Hey, is there any extra bit that I missed? I went and saved him, saw them arguing at the guild, but then afterward I can only go to the church to trigger Liz distracting Kirito and after that if I go to the inn there is no evidence of sex, just that they're having a conversation/argument judging by the 'bubbles' popping in from the room, but Kirito DOES say something about a 'couple having stopped arguing' so it feels like I missed something.
I think there is no more event that could be missed, but about those bubbles poppin in from the room overall that's it. They didn't have sex there at that time, but I conclude that they would have done it there, after kirito went to church(event/time progress) but there probably won't be any CG about that. Just there is no way they didn't have sex there.
 

4-kun

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on ci-en chinese complain too...

我只想说,桐人不是只会道歉的弱智,我不想看黄毛追女主的扭曲爱情故事,明明第一部设定挺好的,双强加女主圣母,慢慢身体堕落,现在变成了亚丝娜要变心了,桐人变小丑了,那这部作品就变成了披着刀剑皮的NTR游戏了,跟桐亚是分离的了,桐人是自信的,是有实力的,也不是家境贫寒的小人物,他各方面能力都不差,正是因为这种双强的铺垫,才会让NTR感更刺激,好好想想吧,没人想看女主开后宫,跟黄毛谈恋爱的,希望您能想清楚这部作品最初的精髓在哪里,PS真的很讨厌利兹在这里小仙女味爆棚的角色形象。

google translate: I just want to say that Kirito is not a retarded person who only knows how to apologize. I don’t want to watch a twisted love story about Huang Mao chasing the heroine. The setting of the first part is obviously very good. They forced the heroine to be a virgin, and her body gradually deteriorated. Now she has changed Asuna will have a change of heart, and Kirito will become a clown, then this work will become an NTR game with a sword skin, and Kirito will be separated from Kirito. Kirito will be confident and capable. , he is not a small person from a poor family, he is not bad in all aspects. It is precisely because of this kind of foreshadowing of two powerful people that makes NTR feel more exciting. Think about it, no one wants to see the heroine opening a harem and having sex with pornographic women. Mao is in love, I hope you can think clearly about the original essence of this work. PS really hates Liz’s fairy-like character image here.

some one comment: Do you think this is a dei NTR game? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to rename it Inoda's Love Adventure? Kirito should be confident that the other person will not leave him and be satisfied with himself.
I mean, yeah, I get what their point is, and yes, most NTR games are like them describing it, but it doesn't mean that it's the only right way to do it; there are other NTR games completely different. It's still Fujinos game in the end.
 
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I think there is no more event that could be missed, but about those bubbles poppin in from the room overall that's it. They didn't have sex there at that time, but I conclude that they would have done it there, after kirito went to church(event/time progress) but there probably won't be any CG about that. Just there is no way they didn't have sex there.
See, that's the thing, before this update I would have thought so too, but the approach to Suguha completely changed. The scene before where it's hinted SHE was the one who got Hebishima to get fucked-up by that tree boss combined with the small Yandere hint the night before and what she did to Kirito the past 2 days, plus how those thought bubbles coming from the room seemed to suggest they were arguing (Or at least one of them was angry at the other) make it seem more like Suguha suddenly 'rebelled' against him. Granted, this could be wrong and it could go right back to the cliche NTR tropes showing you were right the very next update showing they fucked, but this time it really felt different tbh XP

I mean, yeah, I get what their point is, and yes, most NTR games are like them describing it, but it doesn't mean that it's the only right way to do it; there are other NTR games completely different. It's still Fujinos game in the end.
That's the thing sadly, from the very beginning this game's AU has only worked by making everyone noticeably more stupid than their canon selves, as all NTR settings usually do, just so the NTR plots could work/happen at all in the first place (Nevermind the whole thing about the timeline making no sense in regards to the ALO Arc XP). The thing is that usually most people don't give a shit or welcome that because that's what they wanna see in NTR, the girl/s getting stolen away and the MC getting screwed over for no reason (This is extra-so for SAO with all the hate the series in general and Kirito in specific get), but this game has actually dragged on for so long and tried to build a somewhat deeper/more complex plot and development for both the characters and the NTR that people are honestly starting to complaint about the characters acting dumb as they're running out of things to complain about. Like, that's something that was obvious from back halfway through Part 1 honestly XD
 
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See, that's the thing, before this update I would have thought so too, but the approach to Suguha completely changed. The scene before where it's hinted SHE was the one who got Hebishima to get fucked-up by that tree boss combined with the small Yandere hint the night before and what she did to Kirito the past 2 days, plus how those thought bubbles coming from the room seemed to suggest they were arguing (Or at least one of them was angry at the other) make it seem more like Suguha suddenly 'rebelled' against him. Granted, this could be wrong and it could go right back to the cliche NTR tropes showing you were right the very next update showing they fucked, but this time it really felt different tbh XP



That's the thing sadly, from the very beginning this game's AU has only worked by making everyone noticeably more stupid than their canon selves, as all NTR settings usually do, just so the NTR plots could work/happen at all in the first place (Nevermind the whole thing about the timeline making no sense in regards to the ALO Arc XP). The thing is that usually most people don't give a shit or welcome that because that's what they wanna see in NTR, the girl/s getting stolen away and the MC getting screwed over for no reason (This is extra-so for SAO with all the hate the series in general and Kirito in specific get), but this game has actually dragged on for so long and tried to build a somewhat deeper/more complex plot and development for both the characters and the NTR that people are honestly starting to complaint about the characters acting dumb as they're running out of things to complain about. Like, that's something that was obvious from back halfway through Part 1 honestly XD
Totally. It's also the first serious attempt by Fujino to write decent characters and a story. There is simply a lack of experience, which is absolutely fine; everybody starts small. I'm certain his next project will be of much higher quality... if he can endure to finish this one :) In all honesty, all the best to him.
 
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