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w123t4

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Another rainy night! After this update asuna will have sex with inoda in fog more often as she thought it is a good way to separate the reality and the game world, which will start to slowly corrupted by inoda in his plan~:p
The progress between alice and klein are too fast! It seems it had skipped a lot of contents between two updates! I thought the main path is how klein use his tricks to get alice from kirito but it seems the main plot is how the gangster use hypnosis to corrupt alice and klein being another victim same as kirito? :unsure:
 

Kazuto123

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open game with mtool translator in main menu select mouse teleport , when inoda come use teleport under the inoda, after inoda cant walk bottom side ,scene going complete
I also have a problem because I am stuck in places too. Where is the mtool translator? Because I can't find it
I don't have mtool in the menu
 
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13Gatsu777

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I am also facing the same issue when trying to access Inoda's pc in the memory room. Any advice?
This error again, not much to work with you can try to rename the main folder of the game to 0 see if it change anything or use an other extractor for unzipping the archive it may only happen for the ENG version may as well try the chinese one.
 

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How did you arrive at this conclusion? He explicitly mentioned that he would speed up events due to the numerous complaints, indicating that he originally intended for a slower approach. With this update, it has become evident that many players are more interested in aligning the game with his previous games rather than supporting his envisioned direction.
The end of update pidgeon says as much.

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"Of course, last month's comments also made me reflect on the production and gave me some new directions." = I tried to please some people by making Inoda a nicer character and people didn't like it. Or it could refer to the endless dialogue of that update.

"As a creator, I may not be able to meet everyone's needs, so I may need to stay firm in my own vision." = I tried to please others and it didn't work so I should just make the game I want to make.

Maybe you interpret his words differently.

Let's maintain objectivity. Before this update, the story was meticulously crafted, progressing step by step, with each action eliciting somewhat understandable reactions. However, in this update, separate interactions are haphazardly thrown together without a clear conclusion. The quantity and impact of the scenes in this update are typically seen in endgame content.

I speculate that moving forward, he may hasten to complete the game, potentially cutting some material he originally intended, or, in the worst-case scenario, abandoning the game after the break.


Just to clarify, I have criticized the entire story from the beginning, and I also believe it would have been a better game if he followed the approach he took in previous titles. However, I respect his work, vision, and fully understand that repeating the same things over and over again can be tiresome and offers no room for personal development.
Objectively, this update is a huge return to form. Part 1 was ALL like this. Go to school, do a thing, catch some peeping scene, go to FOG and see some battle harassment, with the consequences getting worse each time. The other characters? Side content. Inconsequential and used to pad out the perv forum, or show little snippets of lewd action between other scenes.

Then Part 2 happened. Massive snapback away from the Stormy Night in which Asu/Ino first fucked. Huge regression to the story, and the known start of the Administrator fuckery. We've spent 4 updates working back up to that point, wasting time expanding the side character stories while Inoda fucks around with Kyoko, tries to regain Asuna's trust and plays his part in Liz' scheme.

Everything about Sugu? Inconsequential, so far. Not one thing she's done or said has had any impact. Its all 'she's fucking Hebishima' or 'she's not fucking him right now'. She's not Kirito's girlfriend; there was never any chance they'd hook up, have kids or get married. It's not even netorare; Sugu's story is just a corruption story of a single girl, but it already peaked back in Part 1. She's not Kirito's girlfriend, so spending time with her that doesn't result in any progress with the Asu/Ino plot is just time wasted. And Sinon too; what impact has she had on the story? There is not enough space in an RPGM game to focus on the side characters as much as Asu/Ino. Sugu/Alice/Sinon can't have an equally deep story without, as the updates up until now have been, shifting the focus away from Asuna and Inoda. So (in my opinion) they should be kept to cameo's and snippets to not dilute the focus of the game. At least Alice is building up to a (probably) NTR story, if she's been slutting even before Klein met her. I'm hoping her whole plot that lead you to a house next to the brothel leads to some kind of peeping scenario down the line, otherwise what was the point?

Notice I exempt Liz from that list? It's precisely because she's made herself important to the main plot, by being Inodas accomplice. Even though I don't like her scenes or the implications, at least she's relevant.

I think a lot of people who like the Sugu plot and want to see a lot more of the other girls see this as a game where all the girls and their stories are equally important. They seem to believe it's a game about all the SAO girls getting corrupted and stolen in some way. And while it is to a degree, Part 1 set the tone that this was a story about Kirito's actual girlfriend, Asuna, falling to a fat ugly nerd, Inoda. Part 1 set up that this is a netorare story about Kirito, Asuna and Inoda. The other SAO characters were just filler.

I think even some of the Kyoko plot has been unecessary. As a character she serves to be a wedge between Kirito and Asuna and would have served perfectly in that role even if Inoda hadn't made her his bitch. Inoda could have found other ways to get to Asuna at her house, I'm sure. But I've seen the perk leaks, I know where that is all leading.

A good writing rule goes something like this;
"If you can cut a character out of a scene/story and nothing about the plot would change, then they should be cut".

I'm not really arguing that they should be cut, moreso that their inclusion needs relevance to the main plot, without being a complete side track. The side girls should be made important to Kirito's story somehow, or left as minimally seen cameo's, like when you'd visit Sugu at the cafe or just see her new bf's photo's of her posted on the perv forum.
 
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I don't understand how you can say that the game is too fast. You have sex immediately. Literally nothing else matters after that when it comes to their relationship. Oh she is going to become his woman now or whatever? So what they already have sex daily?

Good corruption games are slower. Like part 1 of this game.
Simple: there are times when I want porn with plot, and times when I want some porn without.

Kubel freely offers both in the form of repeatable scenes and the status screen changes. And I said it was more or less just right, but a little slow if I want new scenes and have to grind for corruption points and flags later in the game.

Miel offers amazingly drawn action with the flimsiest context and plot, so I don't open them when I want real story.

Good corruption games are still porn games. They absolutely should offer porn that is readily available. Aura, for example. The corruption is so good I can sometimes get off to that alone, but when I want real action it's severely lacking.
 

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The end of update pidgeon says as much.

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Objectively, this update is a huge return to form. Part 1 was ALL like this. Go to school, do a thing, catch some peeping scene, go to FOG and see some battle harassment, with the consequences getting worse each time. The other characters? Side content. Inconsequential and used to pad out the perv forum, or show little snippets of lewd action between other scenes.

Then Part 2 happened. Massive snapback away from the Stormy Night in which Asu/Ino first fucked. Huge regression to the story, and the known start of the Administrator fuckery. We've spent 4 updates working back up to that point, wasting time expanding the side character stories while Inoda fucks around with Kyoko, tries to regain Asuna's trust and plays his part in Liz' scheme.

Everything about Sugu? Inconsequential, so far. Not one thing she's done or said has had any impact. Its all 'she's fucking Hebishima' or 'she's not fucking him right now'. She's not Kirito's girlfriend; there was never any chance they'd hook up, have kids or get married. It's not even netorare; Sugu's story is just a corruption story of a single girl, but it already peaked back in Part 1. She's not Kirito's girlfriend, so spending time with her that doesn't result in any progress with the Asu/Ino plot is just time wasted. And Sinon too; what impact has she had on the story? There is not enough space in an RPGM game to focus on the side characters as much as Asu/Ino. Sugu/Alice/Sinon can't have an equally deep story without, as the updates up until now have been, shifting the focus away from Asuna and Inoda. So (in my opinion) they should be kept to cameo's and snippets to not dilute the focus of the game. At least Alice is building up to a (probably) NTR story, if she's been slutting even before Klein met her. I'm hoping her whole plot that lead you to a house next to the brothel leads to some kind of peeping scenario down the line, otherwise what was the point?

Notice I exempt Liz from that list? It's precisely because she's made herself important to the main plot, by being Inodas accomplice. Even though I don't like her scenes or the implications, at least she's relevant.

I think a lot of people who like the Sugu plot and want to see a lot more of the other girls see this as a game where all the girls and their stories are equally important. They seem to believe it's a game about all the SAO girls getting corrupted and stolen in some way. And while it is to a degree, Part 1 set the tone that this was a story about Kirito's actual girlfriend, Asuna, falling to a fat ugly nerd, Inoda. Part 1 set up that this is an netorare story about Kirito, Asuna, Inoda. The other SAO characters were just filler.

A good writing rule goes something like this;
"If you can cut a character out of a scene/story and nothing about the plot would change, then they should be cut".

I'm not really arguing that they should be cut, moreso that their inclusion needs relevance to the main plot, without being a complete side track. The side girls should be made important to Kirito's story somehow, or left as minimally seen cameo's, like when you'd visit Sugu at the cafe or just see her new bf's photo's of her posted on the perv forum.
Oh man, I'll try to explain this as best as I can with my English skills; I hope it's understandable^^

Okay, I understand your perspective, and his comment after the update clarifies some things. To be honest, I'm not entirely convinced it's not just an excuse to please the audience, but that's just a mixed feeling of mine. If he indeed believes what he says in that comment, then I'm sorry to say this, but it's just very bad writing and a lack of skill, storywise, this update is a complete mess.

As I mentioned before, I believe Fujino should have approached the game as he did in the previous ones because that's where his strengths lie. I liked the quick progression, and I admire the scenes, animations, and battle situations he creates. But it was his decision to try to make a more 'realistic' story, so this is now part of the game that needs to be considered.

I think one of the main issues is that many people are way too focused on the sole updates, not considering the story as a whole. If you do, various things just don't make sense, and I'm not talking about NTR logic that applies as an excuse for scenes—I'm fine with that. Especially in part 2, it feels like different people are writing the story, not knowing what happened previously or what personalities the characters have.

On a side note, I don't consider Sugu as NTR; it's a side story. In part 1, it was straightforward corruption but got some really interesting twists in part 2. As I'm not a fan of the main plot, I've been hoping to see more of Sugu's story in the future. I'm not demanding scenes every update; I'm fine if there is an interesting continuation of her story here and there. However, after this update, it's probably unlikely that we'll get back on that track, though not impossible.
 
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Kazuto123

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This error again, not much to work with you can try to rename the main folder of the game to 0 see if it change anything or use an other extractor for unzipping the archive it may only happen for the ENG version may as well try the chinese one.
I changed the name in the main game folder to 0, but it still didn't change and Kirito doesn't want to teleport. 1709034618594.png
Today I'm playing from the beginning. I managed to teleport to another place earlier
 
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I changed the name in the main game folder to 0, but it still didn't change and Kirito doesn't want to teleport. View attachment 3390448
Today I'm playing from the beginning. I managed to teleport to another place earlier
??? What, the rename part was for this post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...agic-part-2-v0-31-fujino.154352/post-13065968

I only wanted to try your savefile to see the script for that event since i don't play the update for now, i'm not up to date with news story event location
 

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As I mentioned before, I believe Fujino should have approached the game as he did in the previous ones because that's where his strengths lie. I liked the quick progression, and I admire the scenes, animations, and battle situations he creates. But it was his decision to try to make a more 'realistic' story, so this is now part of the game that needs to be considered.
I think that was also him trying to please the fans. I remember there was a vote at the end of Part 1 where he asked his patreon supporters whether they wanted things to continue as they were, or for him to try and slowburn the story more. I think slowburn won, so that's why he's been stretching the content with filler with other characters. At least moreso than Part 1.

I think one of the main issues is that many people are way too focused on the sole updates, not considering the story as a whole. If you do, various things just don't make sense, and I'm not talking about NTR logic that applies as an excuse for scenes—I'm fine with that. Especially in part 2, it feels like different people are writing the story, not knowing what happened previously or what personalities the characters have.
You might have a point here, and I am planning to play Pt2 from the start again to get a better grasp of the context. A lot of people this update are saying 'Kirito turned into an asshole'. I kinda see it, but not really. Sure, he called Inoda fat, ugly and awkward to Liz, and he was pushy with Asuna and Inoda's health during the pidgeon hunt, but because he was focused on the loot and being able to suprisde Asuna with a rare cooking ingredient.

I can also see why people thought Inoda was completely different last update, but as we know from Fujino's message that he was trying to make Inoda seem like less of a horrible person because some of his fans related to his situation. Which is sad for them, but... one and a half games into the series is not a good time to suddenly 180 the character without buildup.

On a side note, I don't consider Sugu as NTR; it's a side story. In part 1, it was straightforward corruption but got some really interesting twists in part 2. As I'm not a fan of the main plot, I've been hoping to see more of Sugu's story in the future. I'm not demanding scenes every update; I'm fine if there is an interesting continuation of her story here and there. However, after this update, it's probably unlikely that we'll get back on that track, though not impossible.
I don't think they'll go away. But it's too early to see if this is just a temporary slump in her story, or not. Like how sometimes an update has more Alice content than others. Sometimes it's just not the time for a lot of development of Sugu's story. But the fact she featured at the end of update 0.31 suggests she's still going to be around, as is Hebeshima (in some way).

On the subject of Hebishima; I suspect he may have been the one Alice was talking to in the interrogation. Or... 'talking to'. But as of now we have no proof either way, that I know of. But I think he was previously linked to the crime ring Alice was investigating, and could now be helping her. I'm not sure why else he'd show up for a secong in the update, unless it was just to tease more Sugu corruption. Wait, I think Leafa/Sugu was in the FOG brothel last update, so that might be part of the story angle.
 
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You might have a point here, and I am planning to play Pt2 from the start again to get a better grasp of the context. A lot of people this update are saying 'Kirito turned into an asshole'. I kinda see it, but not really. Sure, he called Inoda fat, ugly and awkward to Liz, and he was pushy with Asuna and Inoda's health during the pidgeon hunt, but because he was focused on the loot and being able to suprisde Asuna with a rare cooking ingredient.

I can also see why people thought Inoda was completely different last update, but as we know from Fujino's message that he was trying to make Inoda seem like less of a horrible person because some of his fans related to his situation. Which is sad for them, but... one and a half games into the series is not a good time to suddenly 180 the character without buildup.
Yeah, especially Kirito is really a damn chameleon of personalities :D.
He got a brain upgrade at the start of part 2, then he was angsty about his dick size, flirting with Liz, then raped Asuna, but both shrugged it off like nothing. Now, he turned into a jerk, starting right in the morning by saying Inoda shouldn't waste his gift on Asuna, then insulting Inoda for no reason, and finally, just being an asshole during the quest. The day before, he was an ordinary nice dude.

The last part will probably be explained by NTR Logic. It was because of the debuffs, maybe even including what happened between Asuna and Inoda, but he was a jerk all day.

It seems like Fujino is trying way too hard to make Kirito look worse, so Inoda looks better, I presume, but things don't work that way. Just because someone murdered someone doesn't make other murderers better; it's just stupid logic^^
Or maybe he don't know what to do with him, to keep him relevant to the story aside from beeing there to be cheated on.


I mean, If you look from a medical perspecitve on thinks, the main cast is absulutely mental. :ROFLMAO:
Inonda is an obsessive maniac.
Asuna cognitive dissonance.
Kirito has split personalities.


tbh, I have lowered my expectations for the further story to the minimum now, I look forward to new scenes, and if something original happens, I would be glad.
 
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