RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.80] [Fujino]

[por12]

this game ending would literally end fujino, simply nothing tops SAO and no other universe would be as exciting as this

never cared about the franchise,this game story and characters are top tier

he could pokemon and still be the goat

 

[Infeno2.0]

That is not true. Think in Part 1 whose help did Inoda have? He planned those thugs to attack Asuna so he can save her and get her into his debt. He stole Kirito's apartment key so Asuna can't go there during Lustful Night. He used his Asuna's sympathy and Kirito not seeing him as threat to get away from his crimes. All his wins were from his efforts alone. Only in Part 2 did he get all the help from Liz, Kyouko, and even divine help from Administrator.

I agree part 1 he did everything by himself, but this actual Inoda version was lobotomize by Fujino in order for the other characters he push into the story had something to do, this Inoda version need all the help he can get or what the plot demand.

 

[gaka200]

A golden rule of storytelling: if you can achieve the same result without using 10 characters, then don't use them tbh, idk why he changed that, it worked just fine in part one, simple and effective

My only guess is that Fujino doesn't know how to distract Kirito anymore, so he made up a grand quest to keep Kirito away from Asuna and Inoda.

 

[gaka200]

Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.

Still some coincidences but a lot more believable.

Everything is technically a coincidence if you twist it or look too deep into it. But what makes your Flora one better or more believable is that all the knowledge for that event to happen was established earlier in the story. It makes this interaction between Kirito and Flora sound like the most reasonable conclusion based off previous events. And the build up of getting Asuna into the undercity has also been building up for this exact moment. So when both sides collide, we get Asuna taking the virtual plunge herself due to her misunderstanding of the situation.

 

[mos555]

NTR and happy endings is only possible when you can avoid the NTR, but your analogy with Far Cry 4 ending when you do nothing and win is good if Kirito also do nothing and leave all behind.
One big motivator for Inoda is envy and to spite Krito, when you remove kirito from the equation whats left for Inoda 3 crazy sluts and a bunch of kids. Some NTR stories where the MC move on, the slut stays with the bull but soon after he tell her to kick rocks because the thrill is gone and the routine sets in, and she end up miserable, thats is a good ending.

Usually this routine is not shown to us... I'm not an expert in NTR, but I wonder why the authors do such plot moves at all, as Fujino did in the last update. This is a rather cliched move - the erroneous detection of a partner's infidelity and revenge in response, but why are the authors trying to justify the character who is cheating in this way?

Fujino tells us that Asuna already has a history of cheating with Oberon. Then we are shown Asuna having bad sex with Kirito. Plus, we are told that Kirito cum quickly and little. We know it's because of Suguha, but Asuna may well have misunderstood Kirito's problems, think about illness, or something similar. At this point, it would be quite possible to make a smooth transition to accepting virtual sex with Inoda. The transition is based on the usual bodily desire and comparison - sex with Inoda > sex with Kirito. Just for the fun of it. But for some reason, Fujino preferred shock therapy, meanwhile, giving a moral justification to Asuna. . Kinglionheart is right. I don't understand this move either.

 

[oozaru2023]

The pregnancy system in FOG was mentioned when will it be implemented? I want to see the new Yui
UP is kirito + asuna
Down inoda + asuna xd

 

[4-kun]

Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.

Still some coincidences but a lot more believable.

That's what I was thinking the Moment Insaw the scene. Also, with her time-stop ability, you could even explain why he was away for so long. The only thing that didn't fit was him talking during the scene.

 

[Infeno2.0]

The pressure statement from Inoda wouldn't have been enough to convince Asuna. Inoda could have mentioned the small penis, and pressure stuff about Kirito, but Asuna would have probably took that as a sign to talk to Kirito and reconcile their relationship. What's important is that Asuna is distraught and significantly vulnerable by believing that Kirito is banging a girl in the underground. The scene she sees is what makes Inoda's story even more believable to her, and it also makes her less resistant to his advances to get her to the point of having virtual sex. A lot of the virtual sex is Inoda taking advantage of her extremely confused mind/state, and manipulating the kind of conclusion she'll get to from the circumstances surrounding her situation.

But I do understand that people don't like how it gives Asuna a reason/excuse. But honestly if Asuna didn't fall after the end of Part 1 from her sexual compatibility with Inoda, then overall the story would have continued to drag out at this point. It was discussed multiple times that due to how the story is being written that Asuna needs a catalyst to willingly take the plunge considering everything else didn't work so far. But anyways, the reason/excuse that Asuna gets to use is definitely more on the "cliche" side, but as mentioned above, it's the only one that would make sense/work at this point.

A point in favor of the fake Kirito scene is that a lot of how Asuna "falls" is through a lot of manipulated misunderstandings and taking advantage of vulnerable moments. This is one of those moments whether people like the execution or not.

The problem with that is simple, like King and 4 already said, plot device/convinience they need to be used in small doses otherwise you break the suspension of disbelief from the reader/player.
I agree with you the way Fujino portrait Asuna is a hypocrate character who need excuses for everything that means she has no agency, but in that moment if she had choose by herself the impact would be bigger, but you're right Fujno did that to stop dragging even more the plot.

 

[mos555]

The pregnancy system in FOG was mentioned when will it be implemented? I want to see the new Yui
UP is kirito + asuna
Down inoda + asuna xd

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Yes, Liz mentions it, but it is unclear whether it has already been introduced, or it was just introduced after the recent shutdown of FOG. So maybe having sex in a hotel will lead to pregnancy. And there is unlikely to be a normal pregnancy in the virtual world. Most likely - "Attention!"You are pregnant! Select the child's gender and name. Click to confirm." And Kirito may remember that he didn't have sex with Asuna in the game after the update. This is going to be a surprise.

 

[gaka200]

The problem with that is simple, like King and 4 already said, plot device/convinience they need to be used in small doses otherwise you break the suspension of disbelief from the reader/player.
I agree with you the way Fujino portrait Asuna is a hypocrate character who need excuses for everything that means she has no agency, but in that moment if she had choose by herself the impact would be bigger, but you're right Fujno did that to stop dragging even more the plot.

Don't forget that King also acknowledged that the event needed to happen. The only coincidental thing that was bad was it being a fake Kirito. Other than that, the entire situation needed to be what it was.

 

[Infeno2.0]

Don't forget that King also acknowledged that the event needed to happen. The only coincidental thing that was bad was it being a fake Kirito. Other than that, the entire situation needed to be what it was.

Which is a plot convinience, the plot device was the "blond girl" situation ages ago, making Asuna go to the UC in the first place instead of seeing the Fake Kirito, Asuna could had follow him getting in the Brothel with Alice and see her working as prostitute plus Kirito telling her everytime they were togheter in a mission, would be enough for Inoda manipulation work.

 

[4-kun]

Don't forget that King also acknowledged that the event needed to happen. The only coincidental thing that was bad was it being a fake Kirito. Other than that, the entire situation needed to be what it was.

The only reason I can think of why Fujino made so many unnecessary steps is to showcase the possibilities of the council and Suguha's connection to them. Maybe it's another setup for later. Since she can seemingly trade cheaters' skills and broken items from them, I can imagine some interesting situations being created in the future.

 

[gaka200]

The only reason I can think of why Fujino made so many unnecessary steps is to showcase the possibilities of the council and Suguha's connection to them. Maybe it's another setup for later. Since she can seemingly trade cheaters' skills and broken items from them, I can imagine some interesting situations being created in the future.

Who knows?

 

[Infeno2.0]

Usually this routine is not shown to us... I'm not an expert in NTR, but I wonder why the authors do such plot moves at all, as Fujino did in the last update. This is a rather cliched move - the erroneous detection of a partner's infidelity and revenge in response, but why are the authors trying to justify the character who is cheating in this way?

Fujino tells us that Asuna already has a history of cheating with Oberon. Then we are shown Asuna having bad sex with Kirito. Plus, we are told that Kirito cum quickly and little. We know it's because of Suguha, but Asuna may well have misunderstood Kirito's problems, think about illness, or something similar. At this point, it would be quite possible to make a smooth transition to accepting virtual sex with Inoda. The transition is based on the usual bodily desire and comparison - sex with Inoda > sex with Kirito. Just for the fun of it. But for some reason, Fujino preferred shock therapy, meanwhile, giving a moral justification to Asuna. . Kinglionheart is right. I don't understand this move either.

Once in a blue moon some author do a ending like that, but yeah it's not that commom.
Because it's how it happens in in real life, when a women cheat they do came up with all sort of excuses for it and most of the time trying shift the blame and i'm not saying men don't do the same shit, but NTR is focused on the female perspective most of the time. Fujino did that to move the story foward using a old plot device he created, there's no other reason.
The reality it's simple the vast majority of NTR authors suck balls when they need to write the ending of their stories most of then don't even bother if you took into account how many NTR stories are finished with a "open ending".

 

[mos555]

The only reason I can think of why Fujino made so many unnecessary steps is to showcase the possibilities of the council and Suguha's connection to them. Maybe it's another setup for later. Since she can seemingly trade cheaters' skills and broken items from them, I can imagine some interesting situations being created in the future.

My head will explode if in the end it turns out that Suguha was the one who commanded all this shit . When Asuna and Kirito met Inoda, Suguha sent slugs that knocked out Inoda in the right place. And Suguha released the monster into the sewer, Suguha was the main one in the bandit camp. Kirito's penis was temporarily reduced by Suguha. The antennas are being built on her orders, and in fact it is council 7, but Suguha was busy at the brothel and did not come to the meeting. The administrator is her 4 avatar in the game to manage the council. All in order to discredit and destroy Asuna. The main theme of the film Saw should play here.

I think Fujino looks exactly like that.

 

[Infeno2.0]

My head will explode if in the end it turns out that Suguha was the one who commanded all this shit . When Asuna and Kirito met Inoda, Suguha sent slugs that knocked out Inoda in the right place. And Suguha released the monster into the sewer, Suguha was the main one in the bandit camp. Kirito's penis was temporarily reduced by Suguha. The antennas are being built on her orders, and in fact it is council 7, but Suguha was busy at the brothel and did not come to the meeting. The administrator is her 4 avatar in the game to manage the council. All in order to discredit and destroy Asuna. The main theme of the film Saw should play here.
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I think Fujino looks exactly like that.

holly fuck

 

[Infeno2.0]

One thing about Suguha, i can't shake the felling of Fujino subverting expectations with her.
Maybe it's to early in the story but i can't see a clear path for her endup with Kirito even worse if he learn about all the things she's being doing, which different from Asuna there's no reason for him not to and in some point he will have to know.
And the fact Fujino did brought Hebishima back into the plot for apparently no reason make everything weird.
I hope i'm wrong because that would be stupid circular plot logic, but if hebishima is back just to be the one who let Kirito knows about her past and present actions making him shutting her off, letting her with no place to go and be there to "help" her ending her arch in the story. Considering how cucked Fujino will make Kirito be in the future, yet stupid it's a possibility.

 

[4-kun]

One thing about Suguha, i can't shake the felling of Fujino subverting expectations with her.
Maybe it's to early in the story but i can't see a clear path for her endup with Kirito even worse if he learn about all the things she's being doing, which different from Asuna there's no reason for him not to and in some point he will have to know.
And the fact Fujino did brought Hebishima back into the plot for apparently no reason make everything weird.
I hope i'm wrong because that would be stupid circular plot logic, but if hebishima is back just to be the one who let Kirito knows about her past and present actions making him shutting her off, letting her with no place to go and be there to "help" her ending her arch in the story. Considering how cucked Fujino will make Kirito be in the future, yet stupid it's a possibility.

Well, that's the juicy part about Suguha—nobody knows what's going to happen. And again, Fujino didn't bring Hebishima back because he was never really gone, but due to the vast number of characters, not everyone can be included in every update.

 

[Alex040677]

Sorry, but what is the difference between the first option and the second?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

My head will explode if in the end it turns out that Suguha was the one who commanded all this shit . When Asuna and Kirito met Inoda, Suguha sent slugs that knocked out Inoda in the right place. And Suguha released the monster into the sewer, Suguha was the main one in the bandit camp. Kirito's penis was temporarily reduced by Suguha. The antennas are being built on her orders, and in fact it is council 7, but Suguha was busy at the brothel and did not come to the meeting. The administrator is her 4 avatar in the game to manage the council. All in order to discredit and destroy Asuna. The main theme of the film Saw should play here.
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I think Fujino looks exactly like that.

LMAO, while this totally won't happen, it reminds me of that Nishida x Asuna LL hypnosis video released a while back whose final plot-twist was exactly like that, it had all been a plan from Sugu to get her Onii-chan all to herself. Obviously not something that can happen in this universe, but still hilarious XD