mos555

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Although it is true that he has a main job, Fujino receives extra income from Patreon and Ci-en. Lately, living in Japan is very complicated, inflation has increased a lot, and they are poorer due to salary devaluations, so having that extra income can make a difference and that is also an incentive to continue enduring. So I don't think he'll leave the projects.
Additional income? Fujino has hidden information about the number of paid subscribers on Patreon. But if we just assume based on the subscribers of CI-en and their growth after he started making SAO. These are all pure assumptions, but I think Fujino has anywhere from 400+ paid subscribers on Patreon, from $1 to $10. That is, in the worst case scenario, he gets 400 + dollars per month. But such a science as mathematical statistics denies the possibility of such a thing (or rather, the probability is infinitesimally small) that all subscribers pay only 1 dollar. I'm paying 10, and I'm already violating statistics. I think mostly a large number of subscribers use the average tariff. 5-7 dollars. And I think Fujino has 2000-3000 dollars from Patreon. 300,000 - 430,000 thousand yen per month, and that's not counting CI-en. What kind of job does he have if Patreon is an additional income?

"Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic" is Fujino real job.
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Naturally, these are all assumptions, but I compared them with my other subscriptions in terms of the number of likes, comments, and the time of the patreon creation. The number of subscriptions to CI-en has increased almost 3 times, and it can be assumed that due to the popularity of the SAO universe, the number of subscribers on Patreon has also grown decently.
 
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There's no way he makes that little. On Ci-EN he's got 37k supporters. If 10% of them is paying and 90% is pirating (going by the average plan price) that would still be about 40k per month. And that's just CI-EN, then you've got patreon
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Probably his supporter income, especially near the end of the game where it is peaking, is almost certainly more than his real life job. Unless he is very fluent in Japanese and skilled in a tech role, he will be on the equiv of $25k a year, starting graduate pay. But he probably still treats it as "bonus" income because it is temporary.

If his next game is even half as successful, I can see him making it his real job. Maybe his next game will be an original NTR game as that would mean stability in terms of copyright
 
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Even if all these subscribers pay the minimum tariff, it's still 73,000 yen. But again, as I said, this is statistically unlikely, so I think with Ci-en he has 100+ thousand yen. Not a fountain, of course (you won't starve to death), but if you add the Patreon here, then these are completely different prospects.
 

mos555

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Probably his supporter income, especially near the end of the game where it is peaking, is almost certainly more than his real life job. Unless he is very fluent in Japanese and skilled in a tech role, he will be on the equiv of $25k a year, starting graduate pay. But he probably still treats it as "bonus" income because it is temporary.

If his next game is even half as successful, I can see him making it his real job. Maybe his next game will be an original NTR game as that would mean stability in terms of copyright
Fujino has a huge selection of popular titles that are as big as SAO in terms of fans, so I don't think he'll stay hungry, lol.
 

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Probably his supporter income, especially near the end of the game where it is peaking, is almost certainly more than his real life job. Unless he is very fluent in Japanese and skilled in a tech role, he will be on the equiv of $25k a year, starting graduate pay. But he probably still treats it as "bonus" income because it is temporary.

If his next game is even half as successful, I can see him making it his real job. Maybe his next game will be an original NTR game as that would mean stability in terms of copyright
That won't be possible, since he needs to work full-time to stay in Japan. As far as I know, part-time work alone isn't enough for a visa — Japan usually requires a certain minimum income or a full-time job. Starting an indie dev studio as a foreigner is also tough, unless he has a proper visa like the Business Manager one, which needs investment, a real office, and a solid business plan.
 

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That won't be possible, since he needs to work full-time to stay in Japan. As far as I know, part-time work alone isn't enough for a visa — Japan usually requires a certain minimum income or a full-time job. Starting an indie dev studio as a foreigner is also tough, unless he has a proper visa like the Business Manager one, which needs investment, a real office, and a solid business plan.
And taxes, terrible taxes for foreigners who want to do business.
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That won't be possible, since he needs to work full-time to stay in Japan. As far as I know, part-time work alone isn't enough for a visa — Japan usually requires a certain minimum income or a full-time job. Starting an indie dev studio as a foreigner is also tough, unless he has a proper visa like the Business Manager one, which needs investment, a real office, and a solid business plan.
oh, you are correct.

in fact, the visa limitations are quite severe. He will have come to Japan already with an employment offer from an existing company, so not only must he do his current job, but he has to do it for his company. Although he can leave his company, he must still work within what his job field is declared in his visa.

importantly, those working in that field are prohibited from doing work in another field. english teachers are on instructor visas for example. and given that he does not own the SAO copyright, i am assuming his payments probably go into a chinese or overseas bank account and are not declared to japan's government, so he is limited on how much he can use.

these rules do not apply to small side gigs, but the amount of money fujino earns would raise a lot of questions if noticed
 
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AI, and it is the cancer of art
from the way you say it, it sounds like you haven't had a great experience with AI.an artist can use AI to take some inspiration and then draw changing something, AI is just a help when one has no ideas what to draw and for me it's just a hobby, IA does not take the place of the artist
 
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4-kun

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AI, and it is the cancer of art
It's not about that; you just need to be creative, like with any art. But if you use the same program, filters, and settings, you'll likely get similar results as anyone else. :sneaky:
 

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The event in CG room is almost ready. I encounter some RAM of MV Engine issues due to too many continuous animations, so it took me some time to reschedule the plots. I will release the update later today, Thank you.

回想基本完成了,耗費了點時間調整劇本,還有一點收尾加測試工作,也許今天晚點可以弄完,沒有意外的bug的話。
 

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from the way you say it, it sounds like you haven't had a great experience with AI.an artist can use AI to take some inspiration and then draw changing something, AI is just a help when one has no ideas what to draw and for me it's just a hobby, IA does not take the place of the artist
That's not what I see, I see a lot of new games that replace an artist and leave the entire art department to a program, all the images shared in this forum are not drawings made by users who use AI to increase their productivity, but rather people who generate generic images with a program......It's very hard to see people using AI to generate images thinking they are creating or drawing. :KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK::KEK:

that's why AI is a cancer for art.
 

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The event in CG room is almost ready. I encounter some RAM of MV Engine issues due to too many continuous animations, so it took me some time to reschedule the plots. I will release the update later today, Thank you.

回想基本完成了,耗費了點時間調整劇本,還有一點收尾加測試工作,也許今天晚點可以弄完,沒有意外的bug的話。
In JP time there’s only like 3 hours left till the day the ends so I’m guessing we’re t-3 till the update.
 

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Nice, guess since it's not happening soon I can just go to bed. If it pops up in an hour, have fun all.
 
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