Aniky Light

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Oh, no, you're wrong. I've been following this project for a whole bunch of time. And you keep saying the same thing about how Suguhu is a goddess and how she should only be with Kirito and other nonsense. It's like this day in and day out.
And overall I'm not afraid of it, because I originally came for Asuna. But honestly I'm annoyed by this crazy Suguha cult of masochists who play NTR just for the sake of something good for the main character. Lol. And wanting to make Suguha a vanilla piece of shit that has nothing to do with the main genre of the game.
Dude, are you blind or what? I'm not the only one who says Kirito needs to end up with Suguha, and who cares if he ends up with Suguha? After all, Suguha is literally stealing Kirito from Asuna (NTR reverse). It would bother you just as much if I told you that Kirito will end up with Sinon.
NTR doesn't mean fucking all the girls who have nothing to do with it, Sinon and Suguha have already had their dose
 

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That’s one way to handle it, yeah—but it also feels like a cop-out. Instead of taking responsibility for writing real emotional decay or believable betrayal, Fujino just dumps it all on some “Admin reveal” at the end. It's like: “Here’s a magic memory dump. Pick your flavor of cuck.”

The problem is, if Kirito’s choice boils down to “forgive,” “forget,” “enjoy,” or “walk away,” then it means nothing actually mattered along the way. It’s not about story progression—just damage control wrapped in fetish logic.

And let’s not pretend the memory rewrite wasn’t a narrative crutch. Asuna falling for Inoda without it? Completely unbelievable. It’s like expecting someone to leave a top-tier partner for a bloated pig just because he’s good at licking. You don’t cheat out of nowhere unless there’s a slow burn, conflict, guilt, something. Not just “Oops, your brain’s been tweaked, now suck the fat guy off.”

That’s not drama. That’s post-hoc justification to make the NTR land without effort.
If you want players to feel the betrayal, you can’t just Ctrl+Z their logic and agency. Otherwise, why not let Inoda hypnotize everyone and call it a day?

The ending won’t matter if the journey was hollow. And right now, it feels like Fujino’s so focused on the fetish payoff that he forgot betrayal only hits when the love felt real.
If sounds like a cop-out is because it's, most story endings are in some capacity that is why they are hard.
This is not my favourite idea for ending either but is one more coherent with plot line so far, your idea falls more in the revenge category and for that to work Fujino would need to change the already established characteristics for everyone and the direction of the plot.
For starters Kirito would have to learn about the shenanigans way before the ending to create a build up of resentment, he would need to follow Asuna and Inoda around like a stalker and keep the facade and in the end confront both of them or accept their relationship.
Another thing in order for some agency Fujino would need to rewrite good chunks of the story which are based purely on plot devices and coincidences .
The last thing to be done would be establish Asuna as the main villain in the story, when you saw a NTR story with any real consequences for the whore, womens they always have a cop out for these situations.
 
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Dude, are you blind or what? I'm not the only one who says Kirito needs to end up with Suguha, and who cares if he ends up with Suguha? After all, Suguha is literally stealing Kirito from Asuna (NTR reverse). It would bother you just as much if I told you that Kirito will end up with Sinon.
NTR doesn't mean fucking all the girls who have nothing to do with it, Sinon and Suguha have already had their dose
Maybe not the only one, but you're the one who talks about it the most, I'd even say all the time.
Reverse NTR? Really? Someone in their right mind is playing to see a stupid, empty Cuckold get taken away from the girl who cheated on him? Is this for real?
Sinon doesn't look anything like her original, and neither does Alice. She just looks the same. That's why she's more uninteresting than the current vanilla Suguha.
 

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As I near the end of the current release, I hope we get an option for Kirito to kick Asuna to the curb and end up with someone else, even if that someone else ends up cucking him at one point. It is an NTR game after all.

In the context of the story, Asuna's reasoning for everything as stuff progresses exhausts me and she's so god damn stupid, even though the actual NTR scenes are nice.
 

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Maybe not the only one, but you're the one who talks about it the most, I'd even say all the time.
Reverse NTR? Really? Someone in their right mind is playing to see a stupid, empty Cuckold get taken away from the girl who cheated on him? Is this for real?
Sinon doesn't look anything like her original, and neither does Alice. She just looks the same. That's why she's more uninteresting than the current vanilla Suguha.
If you don't like it, it's not my problem, here it's Fujino's word that counts
 
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The fact some people really are hating on Suguha and calling her "vanilla" at this point of the game and that's their main reason to wish, dumbly given all Fujino has said, that Inoda gets her is fucking hilarious, they're shitting on others for "wanting to ruin the vibe of a NTR game" without getting that this has LONG since abandoned the standard NTR game cliches with the side-caharacters in very crazy ways XD The fact they not only want what Fujino clearly stated won't happen but their reasoning is "because is vanilla" to the literal psycho borderline yandere rapist whose definition of what's best for her big brother revolves around her own wants and has been sabotaging his relationship several times is beyond hilarious.

It should be obvious at this point that if Suguha DOES win in at least one ending then regardless it's NOT gonna be a "Kirito Wins" ending, that obviously plain out won't happen no matter what because despite how ironically she may be the last girl who legit loves him over a big dick in this game, nothing she has been doing for ages now has been primarily for Kazuto's benefit, but for her own XP
 
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What's so complicated about finishing the game? Kirito finds out everything and kills Inoda and Asuna and then he commits suicide, and that's where the question arises. What about other characters? Well, they also commit suicide out of guilt.For not helping Kirito :cautious:

A short summary, in the end they all die xD
 
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The ending won’t matter if the journey was hollow. And right now, it feels like Fujino’s so focused on the fetish payoff that he forgot betrayal only hits when the love felt real.
Unfortunately, this is an unfortunate trend in recent years. NTR has ceased to be a genre that pulled out the worst feelings and life problems of a loving couple of people throughout the process, but has become a utilitarian genre in which relationships between people are shown as a couple lines of prehistory at the beginning of the game, and the rest of the time is just situational porn related to "cheating."

Previously, NTR was a genre that was really capable of tickling your nerves, and especially bright representatives of the genre can drive you into depression for a couple of days (although it wasn't even your wife who cheated). NTR was an additional genre that usually appeared next to the tags "romance", "drama", "tragedy". And in modern trends, NTR has been elevated to the status of a mainstream genre, forgetting that it should have some kind of emotional basis (quarrels, routine of life, long-distance relationships), so now NTR has turned into, simply, fetish porn.

Fujino acted even more cunningly in this regard - he took a franchise in which this "couple lines of prehistory" with relationships were written for him by more talented people. In the case of Fujino, depression is may caused by the way he distorted, mutilated, and then shat a huge pile of shit on a borrowed story and borrowed characters, and only the original Inoda character stands next to him and pokes this shit with a stick. :FacePalm:

It amuses me when the authors make an NTR game in which - "This is my girlfriend Suzuki, we've been dating for two weeks" and then shows us 5 hours of porn in which this girl Suzuki fucks with the whole city (or with one bully, it doesn't matter). And how should I feel about that? Well, dick got up... don't feel anything anymore. Whole point of NTR is fucked up.:HideThePain:
 
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Unfortunately, this is an unfortunate trend in recent years. NTR has ceased to be a genre that pulled out the worst feelings and life problems of a loving couple of people throughout the process, but has become a utilitarian genre in which relationships between people are shown as a couple lines of prehistory at the beginning of the game, and the rest of the time is just situational porn related to "cheating."

Previously, NTR was a genre that was really capable of tickling your nerves, and especially bright representatives of the genre can drive you into depression for a couple of days (although it wasn't even your wife who cheated). NTR was an additional genre that usually appeared next to the tags "romance", "drama", "tragedy". And in modern trends, NTR has been elevated to the status of a mainstream genre, forgetting that it should have some kind of emotional basis (quarrels, routine of life, long-distance relationships), so now NTR has turned into, simply, fetish porn.

Fujino acted even more cunningly in this regard - he took a franchise in which this "couple lines of prehistory" with relationships were written for him by more talented people. In the case of Fujino, depression is may caused by the way he distorted, mutilated, and then shat a huge pile of shit on a borrowed story and borrowed characters, and only the original Inoda character stands next to him and pokes this shit with a stick. :FacePalm:

It amuses me when the authors make an NTR game in which - "This is my girlfriend Suzuki, we've been dating for two weeks" and then shows us 5 hours of porn in which this girl Suzuki fucks with the whole city (or with one bully, it doesn't matter). And how should I feel about that? Well, dick got up... don't feel anything anymore. Whole point of NTR is fucked up.:HideThePain:
This is my Suzuki girlfriend or better to say she was my Suzuki girlfriend and here begins the whole story of what happened xD
 

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In your opinion, which is the simplest NTR of all? In my opinion, the one where the protagonist loses the bet against the bully and there's nothing you can do, the end, you lose, deals are deals.
 

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Unfortunately, this is an unfortunate trend in recent years. NTR has ceased to be a genre that pulled out the worst feelings and life problems of a loving couple of people throughout the process, but has become a utilitarian genre in which relationships between people are shown as a couple lines of prehistory at the beginning of the game, and the rest of the time is just situational porn related to "cheating."

Previously, NTR was a genre that was really capable of tickling your nerves, and especially bright representatives of the genre can drive you into depression for a couple of days (although it wasn't even your wife who cheated). NTR was an additional genre that usually appeared next to the tags "romance", "drama", "tragedy". And in modern trends, NTR has been elevated to the status of a mainstream genre, forgetting that it should have some kind of emotional basis (quarrels, routine of life, long-distance relationships), so now NTR has turned into, simply, fetish porn.

Fujino acted even more cunningly in this regard - he took a franchise in which this "couple lines of prehistory" with relationships were written for him by more talented people. In the case of Fujino, depression is may caused by the way he distorted, mutilated, and then shat a huge pile of shit on a borrowed story and borrowed characters, and only the original Inoda character stands next to him and pokes this shit with a stick. :FacePalm:

It amuses me when the authors make an NTR game in which - "This is my girlfriend Suzuki, we've been dating for two weeks" and then shows us 5 hours of porn in which this girl Suzuki fucks with the whole city (or with one bully, it doesn't matter). And how should I feel about that? Well, dick got up... don't feel anything anymore. Whole point of NTR is fucked up.:HideThePain:
It's pathetic for authors to write a harmonious believable romance story for months or even years, and then trample that down by showing how the girl who swore eternal love and stuff is fucking someone else and licking their anus, thinking only of constant cheating.
That's why authors today almost always write one of these things, but not together in any way. I guess that's okay. Everything has become strictly compartmentalised. In a good romance story, you almost always don't see NTR. And in NTR, you almost always don't see the full-blown development of the relationship.
And in general, people come to this genre just to jerk off at what a slut becomes a girl or how they humiliate a stupid harmless guy. With these fantasies, no long and good backstory is required.
 
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The fact some people really are hating on Suguha and calling her "vanilla" at this point of the game and that's their main reason to wish, dumbly given all Fujino has said, that Inoda gets her is fucking hilarious, they're shitting on others for "wanting to ruin the vibe of a NTR game" without getting that this has LONG since abandoned the standard NTR game cliches with the side-caharacters in very crazy ways XD The fact they not only want what Fujino clearly stated won't happen but their reasoning is "because is vanilla" to the literal psycho borderline yandere rapist whose definition of what's best for her big brother revolves around her own wants and has been sabotaging his relationship several times is beyond hilarious.

It should be obvious at this point that if Suguha DOES win in at least one ending then regardless it's NOT gonna be a "Kirito Wins" ending, that obviously plain out won't happen no matter what because despite how ironically she may be the last girl who legit loves him over a big dick in this game, nothing she has been doing for ages now has been primarily for Kazuto's benefit, but for her own XP
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Gentlemen, as if you don't know how Fujino likes to do everything?
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I hope you understand this metaphor?
 

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It's pathetic for authors to write a harmonious believable romance story for months or even years, and then trample that down by showing how the girl who swore eternal love and stuff is fucking someone else and licking their anus, thinking only of constant cheating.
That's why authors today almost always write one of these things, but not together in any way. I guess that's okay. Everything has become strictly compartmentalised. In a good romance story, you almost always don't see NTR. And in NTR, you almost always don't see the full-blown development of the relationship.
And in general, people come to this genre just to jerk off at what a slut becomes a girl or how they humiliate a stupid harmless guy. With these fantasies, no long and good backstory is required.
A good love story that ends with NTR is something that can throw a person off balance for a few days. This game will be remembered for a long time.

Fujino took a good love story(that wasn't created by him), decided to make a game, while on the way he lost the words "good" and "love", all that was left, was dipped in three times digested NTR shit and dumped on us.
 
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I just completed the story thus far, and like ..

Asuna, how much of an idiot..? But I realize she has to be an idiot for all of this shit in the game to have happened. On top of making Kirito as clueless as a blind man playing Wheel of Fortune.

She should have known something was up / told fatso to gtfo the moment she realized he was in the memory simulation, but instead she immediately went for 'i need that cock RIGHT NOW' and somehow neither she or Cuckito noticed the synchronization information.

'I am not telling Kiriko to take a nap so we can fuck!'
-scene change-
'GO TAKE A NAP RIGHT NOW THE BAGS UNDER YOUR EYES ARE BIGGER THAN INODA'S DICK'

The actual NTR scenes were hot though.

At this point, I hope there are multiple endings, but at the same time I don't see how a 'happy' ending would work.
I want an ending where I can beat the shit out of Inoda and then dump Asuna. Or some variation of it. Even if Inoda ends up banging Kirito's future GF anyway (lis, sinon, etc)

Fujino said the story could basically be considered done now and be left at this super bad end, (asuna being in love with fatso due to memory re-write, fatso being yui's dad, asuna craving only fatso dick etc) but he doesn't wanna do that apparently since so many people want him to continue.

I only just came across this game a week ago so consider me freshly on board with everything.
 

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'I am not telling Kiriko to take a nap so we can fuck!'
-scene change-
'GO TAKE A NAP RIGHT NOW THE BAGS UNDER YOUR EYES ARE BIGGER THAN INODA'S DICK'
This is a standard description of everything Asuna does in this game.

Asuna - "I won't do it!"
scene change (2 lines of dialogue, Inoda's eyebrow raised in disbelief - choose what you like.)
Asuna - "I'll do it!"
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Fujino said the story could basically be considered done now and be left at this super bad end, (asuna being in love with fatso due to memory re-write, fatso being yui's dad, asuna craving only fatso dick etc) but he doesn't wanna do that apparently since so many people want him to continue.
Ideally, if Fujino had done the ending now, it would have been a pretty good ending for NTR. But apparently Fujino still has some plans, and the perks haven't ended yet.:cool:

About the "good ending"... :unsure:

I can tell that the space for Asuna's development is almost over. She did almost everything she could do in the NTR game (the only ones left are sex without a condom and pregnancy, but that's just fetish content. ) and, as I think, most players (fans), consciously or subconsciously want a bad person to be punished. "The whore has done her job, the whore must be punished." People love to see bad people suffer, so most players will absolutely not mind a "good ending."

I want to point out that a good ending is not an ending where Kirito lives happily, it's an ending where Inoda and Asuna receive their punishment. I hope it's clear what I mean. :WeSmart:
 
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This is a standard description of everything Asuna does in this game.

Asuna - "I won't do it!"
scene change (2 lines of dialogue, Inoda's eyebrow raised in disbelief - choose what you like.)
Asuna - "I'll do it!"
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Ideally, if Fujino had done the ending now, it would have been a pretty good ending for NTR. But apparently Fujino still has some plans, and the perks haven't ended yet.:cool:

About the "good ending"... :unsure:

I can tell that the space for Asuna's development is almost over. She did almost everything she could do in the NTR game (the only ones left are sex without a condom and pregnancy, but that's just fetish content. ) and, as I think, most players (fans), consciously or subconsciously want a bad person to be punished. "The whore has done her job, the whore must be punished." People love to see bad people suffer, so most players will absolutely not mind a "good ending."

I want to point out that a good ending is not an ending where Kirito lives happily, it's an ending where Inoda and Asuna receive their punishment. I hope it's clear what I mean. :WeSmart:

True enough. I would be very surprised if he managed to find a way to include a good ending where Kirito and Asuna resume living happily, but another 'good' ending of Inoda and Asuna getting what they deserve would def be something I'd want too.
 
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