RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.851] [Fujino]

[mos555]

Let's see, Fujino doesn't hate Kirito? If Fujino doesn't hate Kirito, I'm a priest at the Vatican. No character is originally his, nor his invention; they were all already created and are victims of an NTR parody. Fujino can perfectly hate the character of Kirito; he's a handsome, intelligent young man with a job for the state and a harem of girls following him. I've never had the case of hating any anime character, but it's something I see as normal. In any case, I could mention Shinji Ikari because he was a crybaby and it made me so angry that he always needed a little push from Asuka, Rei, or Misato to get him back on his feet, but well, that's another series. Fujino clearly sees himself reflected in Inoda, who is the only original character in the game and created entirely by him, and that's noticeable from miles away.

Well, Shinji Ikari can be understood to some extent. His father literally dissolved his mother into EVA and abandoned him, and then summoned him only because he was needed as an expendable, not as a son.

It's pretty deep, of course, and in general, we can't get into Fujino's head, and it's not our problem, but it sounds logical about Inoda. Perhaps the popularity of SAO, FATE, and Chainsaw Man makes Fujino somewhat envious, so he takes other people's franchises, creates his own original character, and destroys the entire history of the world and relationships in these franchises with the help of his character (NTR, as a genre, is very good for destruction). He earns money at the same time. In this case, it is quite understandable why Fujino may be so attached and attaches the most importance to Inoda, and naturally, will give him a complete victory. Of course, all this is too deep in Fujino's head for us to go there. And it's pretty petty... to be jealous of someone else's popularity.

Well, who among us is not petty in some things?

 

[mos555]

It's like Reki Kawahara saying that he was Oberon in the SAO anime

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

In his Chainsaw Man game, it wasn’t exactly like that. Makima slept with him purely for her own gain (I’d even say she manipulated him in line with her character), just like Kobeni.
And honestly, can it even be considered NTR of Denji wasn’t actually dating any of them?
By the end of the game, he ends up having sex with her and if I remember correctly, that was the final scene so technically, it’s more like he pulled off the NTR on that other guy.

Well, yeah, the 'joke' there is the the game is basically NTR-coded and inspired despite it being a one-sided attraction, reminder that NTR nowadays usually gives no fuck if there is no real relationship there, as all NTR Hentai of SAO involving any non-Asuna girl shows XD Is just that it's usually the girl who has a hopeless crush in the guy who gets NTR-ed in these kinda scenarios, not the other way around like with Keiji (At least in NTR of actually named series is usually like that, the opposite is more true for original works).

 

[Infeno2.0]

Let's see, Fujino doesn't hate Kirito? If Fujino doesn't hate Kirito, I'm a priest at the Vatican. No character is originally his, nor his invention; they were all already created and are victims of an NTR parody. Fujino can perfectly hate the character of Kirito; he's a handsome, intelligent young man with a job for the state and a harem of girls following him. I've never had the case of hating any anime character, but it's something I see as normal. In any case, I could mention Shinji Ikari because he was a crybaby and it made me so angry that he always needed a little push from Asuka, Rei, or Misato to get him back on his feet, but well, that's another series. Fujino clearly sees himself reflected in Inoda, who is the only original character in the game and created entirely by him, and that's noticeable from miles away.

i woudn't say hate, i think Fujino did his homework about the character, and i don't believe that his choice of series was 100% random i think he is also a fan in some degree of SAO.

Kirito is your run of the mill LN/shonen manga main protagonist, a loner teen socially akward until one day his destiny is to save the world from his bedroom, because reasons, in kirito's case being good at video games, and for that he get poupular find a girl, have his orbiters and harem which as usual he never will lay a hand on them and most important everything is done while he's OP as fuck in a fantastic land with magic and others Isekai genre BS, in the end he is just another example of tipycal hero in a NEET power fantasy.
In the Fujinoverse, Kirito and Inoda are basically the same character, the only difference is their motivation, Kirito wants to play the hero, and Inoda just want to fuck the girls that Kirito didin't want to or took for granted.

The ntr works wonders on SAO because how Kirito's personality, or lack of thereof was writen, his blind loyalty to Asuna and her being sweet but also so self righteous, one the og waifus and theirs "lukewarm" relationship, the story was basicaly made for ntr parodies at this point .

The other thing about SAO in the light novels the sexual deviation undertone was always present, teen sex, rape/domination fantasies, vunerable females, pregnancy, virtual land with no moral rules, remember Fujino's lines for Asuna rationalization "what happen in FOG doesn't count" most likely came from this, that's why SAO was and still is a breeding ground for NTR.

 

[tetelz1234]

View attachment 5006268 what do u think

which one is that bro?

 

[Infeno2.0]

which one is that bro?

is part of the last scene in the last update

 

[mos555]

i think he is also a fan in some degree of SAO

After reading your post, brother, I talked to my wife and she told me the difference between love and hate is very small and it lies in motivation and the direction of feelings. Love is respect, creation. Hatred is contempt, destruction.

As a person who really loves the SAO universe, since ancient times (At least 20 years old, I have already been familiar with this series), it would never occur to me in any way to take and distort the characters, remake the SAO world, destroy it. It's just disgusting to me. But Fujino, without any problems, does it - distorts, destroys, changes to suit himself. Fujino's attitude towards SAO tends more towards the destructive. And this is a sign of hatred. This is ordinary psychology. So, it's almost 100% likely that Fujino is not a fan of SAO. Maybe hate is too strong a word, but Fujino definitely either doesn't care about SAO, or he has some negative feelings. Fujino expressed his admiration for his own original character Inoda and said that he likes Asuna. There is a high probability that he likes Asuna as a sexual object, and not as a heroine of a novel or a deeply developed character.

For simplicity's sake, what Fujino is doing is the same as seeing a man on the street and telling him "Oh! What a beautiful face you have!" and cut it with a knife. Envy, hatred...

I know I'm digging deep, but these are common psychological signs that people have known for centuries. No one will spoil something that they genuinely really like. And if a person sees a thing that he likes and wants to break it, then he simply does not see the difference between love and hate.

 

[mos555]

harem which as usual he never will lay a hand on them

Well, actually, he had a hand in them. The story was written by Reki Kawahara himself, but later, due to the fact that most fans did not like that Kirito started a harem, he declared it not canon.

Kirito wants to play the hero

It's not entirely clear what you mean. I don't remember any such moments in the game where he played the hero. At the treehouse, he went alone because Asuna "allegedly" felt sick because of the pollen of the flowers. During the ritual, he was left alone with the boss, because this boss is very strong and Asuna could be hurt during the battle. While he was in the hospital, he sent Asuna on a business trip so as not to interfere with her career. In general, Kirito's actions are motivated by concern for Asuna and a desire to help his beloved.

Can't you see that? Fujino added another element of psychological betrayal - Kirito self-consciously sacrifices himself for Asuna every time, and she betrays him every time. So Kirito doesn't play the hero, he just does everything for Asuna. Asuna herself does not notice this and sees only Kirito's mistakes. Inoda's goal is to take Asuna and fuck everyone she can, and Kirito's goal is to create situations in which Inoda will fuck Asuna. What's heroic about that?

 

[Infeno2.0]

After reading your post, brother, I talked to my wife and she told me the difference between love and hate is very small and it lies in motivation and the direction of feelings. Love is respect, creation. Hatred is contempt, destruction.

As a person who really loves the SAO universe, since ancient times (At least 20 years old, I have already been familiar with this series), it would never occur to me in any way to take and distort the characters, remake the SAO world, destroy it. It's just disgusting to me. But Fujino, without any problems, does it - distorts, destroys, changes to suit himself. Fujino's attitude towards SAO tends more towards the destructive. And this is a sign of hatred. This is ordinary psychology. So, it's almost 100% likely that Fujino is not a fan of SAO. Maybe hate is too strong a word, but Fujino definitely either doesn't care about SAO, or he has some negative feelings. Fujino expressed his admiration for his own original character Inoda and said that he likes Asuna. There is a high probability that he likes Asuna as a sexual object, and not as a heroine of a novel or a deeply developed character.
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For simplicity's sake, what Fujino is doing is the same as seeing a man on the street and telling him "Oh! What a beautiful face you have!" and cut it with a knife. Envy, hatred...
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I know I'm digging deep, but these are common psychological signs that people have known for centuries. No one will spoil something that they genuinely really like. And if a person sees a thing that he likes and wants to break it, then he simply does not see the difference between love and hate.

Maybe his a fan maybe his not, but the idea is the same Fujino did his research about the SAO universe and the main motive that we can see in his game was present in the original work, under a metric ton of suggar coating but was there regardless, moral relativization, since was a virtual wolrd anything can be done without consequences which usually lead to bad things, Fujino only took the fantasie world of SAO and made more real and Rated R.

Simply he took the 13 year old NEET power fantasy of being a hero and combine with the 18 year old NEET who want to fuck everything that moves.

Now is kind of obvious that Fujino does have some unresolved issues, all of his games are over NTR/degenerate sex but in the other hand maybe he only found a profitable market to explore.

 

[mos555]

Fujino only took the fantasie world of SAO and made more real and Rated R.

I don't think that in a world in which a woman, having a fiance, meets some dude, after a week jerks off to him, bathes with him in the bathroom, allows herself to be raped and forgives it, and then agrees to service his sexual needs once a week, there is at least a drop of realism. And this dude himself, fat, cowardly, dim-witted and manipulative, at the same time somehow captures the heart of a rich, well-mannered, adult girl.

I've never seen such bullshit, even in the dumbest romantic novels.

Now is kind of obvious that Fujino does have some unresolved issues, all of his games are over NTR/degenerate sex but in the other hand maybe he only found a profitable market to explore.

Which actually confirms that Fujino has some kind of dislike for popular franchises. In fact, more than half of all commentators say that the CG porn scenes are very beautifully done, so nothing prevented Fujino from creating his original game with a simple plot and beautiful CG scenes. But for some reason, Fujino doesn't want to give up using someone else's creativity in his distorted vision. Somehow he got hung up on it.

 

[Infeno2.0]

Well, actually, he had a hand in them. The story was written by Reki Kawahara himself, but later, due to the fact that most fans did not like that Kirito started a harem, he declared it not canon.

It's not entirely clear what you mean. I don't remember any such moments in the game where he played the hero. At the treehouse, he went alone because Asuna "allegedly" felt sick because of the pollen of the flowers. During the ritual, he was left alone with the boss, because this boss is very strong and Asuna could be hurt during the battle. While he was in the hospital, he sent Asuna on a business trip so as not to interfere with her career. In general, Kirito's actions are motivated by concern for Asuna and a desire to help his beloved.

Can't you see that? Fujino added another element of psychological betrayal - Kirito self-consciously sacrifices himself for Asuna every time, and she betrays him every time. So Kirito doesn't play the hero, he just does everything for Asuna. Asuna herself does not notice this and sees only Kirito's mistakes. Inoda's goal is to take Asuna and fuck everyone she can, and Kirito's goal is to create situations in which Inoda will fuck Asuna. What's heroic about that?

If is not canon doesn't count, but at least the author tried not to use this Isekai trope, limp dick MC.

Are you sure about that? If he didn't liked play the hero why he is stiil playing the game, which lead to the situation that he's in and gave Inoda the opportunity to act, why he's always helping everyone like Alice or Liz, many things that he did for them had nothing to do with Asuna, he likes being the OP hero.

That's his mistake, sacrifices himself and put her front and center, instead i don't know talke to her or better yet fuck her the way he wants and by the looks of it is the way she likes, but no lets play the hero for everyone.

 

[AverageEnthusiast]

Maybe you meant Inoda? In Klein's latest update there wasn't even a shadow xD

No, I'm talking about this entirely different media, this webcomic or something where that happens with Klein. Sorry about any confusion.

 

[mos555]

If is not canon doesn't count, but at least the author tried not to use this Isekai trope, limp dick MC.

Are you sure about that? If he didn't liked play the hero why he is stiil playing the game, which lead to the situation that he's in and gave Inoda the opportunity to act, why he's always helping everyone like Alice or Liz, many things that he did for them had nothing to do with Asuna, he likes being the OP hero.

That's his mistake, sacrifices himself and put her front and center, instead i don't know talke to her or better yet fuck her the way he wants and by the looks of it is the way she likes, but no lets play the hero for everyone.

Well, I think there's still a difference when a person wants to "play" a hero and when they really, sincerely want to help everyone. Playing the hero would mean that Kirito wants to get respect, praise from this, or just hypocritically wants to feel important. But it seems to me that Kirito seems to be quite sincere in caring for people. Rather than a hero complex, but simply kindness and the inability to refuse. I can almost never refuse my daughters either. Of course it's a parental instinct, but I don't think Kirito is arrogant enough to treat everyone around him like children.

 

[Infeno2.0]

I don't think that in a world in which a woman, having a fiance, meets some dude, after a week jerks off to him, bathes with him in the bathroom, allows herself to be raped and forgives it, and then agrees to service his sexual needs once a week, there is at least a drop of realism. And this dude himself, fat, cowardly, dim-witted and manipulative, at the same time somehow captures the heart of a rich, well-mannered, adult girl.

I've never seen such bullshit, even in the dumbest romantic novels.


Which actually confirms that Fujino has some kind of dislike for popular franchises. In fact, more than half of all commentators say that the CG porn scenes are very beautifully done, so nothing prevented Fujino from creating his original game with a simple plot and beautiful CG scenes. But for some reason, Fujino doesn't want to give up using someone else's creativity in his distorted vision. Somehow he got hung up on it.

Yes there is one Earth, brother what you've describe there is how affairs are, with the rape part being the exception, the rest happens all the time even if the guy is a fat fuck but have money he can bang someone else fiance/wife the only thing required is the opportunity, a friend of mine worked as a bartender told me so many stories that he saw during his smoke breaks of married women banging coworkers in the alley behind the pub or in the toilet.

Because is easy to gather fans and subscribers, the material already having a fan base and he does not need to create anything he just need give his spin to the story.

 

[kinglionheart]

As a person who really loves the SAO universe, since ancient times (At least 20 years old, I have already been familiar with this series), it would never occur to me in any way to take and distort the characters, remake the SAO world, destroy it. It's just disgusting to me. But Fujino, without any problems, does it - distorts, destroys, changes to suit himself. Fujino's attitude towards SAO tends more towards the destructive. And this is a sign of hatred. This is ordinary psychology. So, it's almost 100% likely that Fujino is not a fan of SAO. Maybe hate is too strong a word, but Fujino definitely either doesn't care about SAO, or he has some negative feelings. Fujino expressed his admiration for his own original character Inoda and said that he likes Asuna. There is a high probability that he likes Asuna as a sexual object, and not as a heroine of a novel or a deeply developed character.

I don't get any feelings that Fujino dislikes SAO. At most he does not care about it which is not the same as disliking it. SAO is just a easily recognizable franchise he can use to sell his games. Just like all his other games uses popular franchises. Also I don't know how much Fujino "identifies" with Inoda. But Inoda is his original character he has written about for years now so I can believe there is some complex feelings Fujino has for Inoda. I really don't know how you should feel about a porn parody game. Most of the time the porn parody has to destroy the beautiful bonds that the canon characters made to make it work. It is what happens when you play something about your favorite series.

Maybe his a fan maybe his not, but the idea is the same Fujino did his research about the SAO universe and the main motive that we can see in his game was present in the original work, under a metric ton of suggar coating but was there regardless, moral relativization, since was a virtual wolrd anything can be done without consequences which usually lead to bad things, Fujino only took the fantasie world of SAO and made more real and Rated R.

Simply he took the 13 year old NEET power fantasy of being a hero and combine with the 18 year old NEET who want to fuck everything that moves.

Now is kind of obvious that Fujino does have some unresolved issues, all of his games are over NTR/degenerate sex but in the other hand maybe he only found a profitable market to explore.

I think you meant situational ethics, not moral relativism, since Asuna thinks cheating is alright only in VR world not in the real world. Moral relativism is more about people acting differently in different cultures and time periods.

Fujino does NTR games because that is what is popular right now. How many RPGM games have NTR in them and how many does not?

Are you sure about that? If he didn't liked play the hero why he is stiil playing the game, which lead to the situation that he's in and gave Inoda the opportunity to act, why he's always helping everyone like Alice or Liz, many things that he did for them had nothing to do with Asuna, he likes being the OP hero.

Ah yes why would some teenager want to play a video game? Maybe to relax from the stresses of the real world? Or just have fun playing with friends and girlfriend?

Why help Alice and Liz? Maybe because it feels good to help police catch criminals and help out your friends?

Which actually confirms that Fujino has some kind of dislike for popular franchises. In fact, more than half of all commentators say that the CG porn scenes are very beautifully done, so nothing prevented Fujino from creating his original game with a simple plot and beautiful CG scenes. But for some reason, Fujino doesn't want to give up using someone else's creativity in his distorted vision. Somehow he got hung up on it.

You have to understand Fujino was not well-known so making his own original story would limit his income. Not many people would give their time and money to some unknown if they are not making something they already liked. Which is why Fujino keeps using popular franchises so many people might try out his game out of curiosity. It is possible now he is somewhat popular he could make his own story since he has a lot of supporters who would give his original story a chance. But no, he is still planning on using another popular franchise.

No, I'm talking about this entirely different media, this webcomic or something where that happens with Klein. Sorry about any confusion.

Ah yes, Asuna Family. It started out great but got weird and lost its original premise fast. Such a shame.

 

[JesseFun]

since Asuna put Kirito to sleep and had sex next to him in this update. I hope there will be something like this.
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where is this from bro?

 

[mos555]

Yes there is one Earth, brother what you've describe there is how affairs are, with the rape part being the exception, the rest happens all the time even if the guy is a fat fuck but have money he can bang someone else fiance/wife the only thing required is the opportunity, a friend of mine worked as a bartender told me so many stories that he saw during his smoke breaks of married women banging coworkers in the alley behind the pub or in the toilet.

Because is easy to gather fans and subscribers, the material already having a fan base and he does not need to create anything he just need give his spin to the story.

Oh no no, I once heard a "wise saying" that when there is a conversation about reality or statistics, never call a bartender to this conversation, because these people have literally seen everything in this life. Even if a person runs around and shouts - "There are no aliens!", there will definitely be a bartender who will say, "You're wrong! A week ago, 3 little green men came to my bar..." So in this case, too, if I say in a bar, "It can't be that a fat, cowardly dude with no money fucked a rich beauty with an engagement ring," the bartender will probably answer, " You're wrong! The day before yesterday in the WC of my bar..."

But still, the probability of what happened between Inoda and Asuna happening in the real world is close to zero. Not absolute zero, of course, but infinitely close to this value. So, I still think that the way Fujino did it doesn't look very realistic.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I don't get any feelings that Fujino dislikes SAO. At most he does not care about it which is not the same as disliking it. SAO is just a easily recognizable franchise he can use to sell his games. Just like all his other games uses popular franchises. Also I don't know how much Fujino "identifies" with Inoda. But Inoda is his original character he has written about for years now so I can believe there is some complex feelings Fujino has for Inoda. I really don't know how you should feel about a porn parody game. Most of the time the porn parody has to destroy the beautiful bonds that the canon characters made to make it work. It is what happens when you play something about your favorite series.


I think you meant situational ethics, not moral relativism, since Asuna thinks cheating is alright only in VR world not in the real world. Moral relativism is more about people acting differently in different cultures and time periods.

Fujino does NTR games because that is what is popular right now. How many RPGM games have NTR in them and how many does not?


Ah yes why would some teenager want to play a video game? Maybe to relax from the stresses of the real world? Or just have fun playing with friends and girlfriend?

Why help Alice and Liz? Maybe because it feels good to help police catch criminals and help out your friends?


You have to understand Fujino was not well-known so making his own original story would limit his income. Not many people would give their time and money to some unknown if they are not making something they already liked. Which is why Fujino keeps using popular franchises so many people might try out his game out of curiosity. It is possible now he is somewhat popular he could make his own story since he has a lot of supporters who would give his original story a chance. But no, he is still planning on using another popular franchise.


Ah yes, Asuna Family. It started out great but got weird and lost its original premise fast. Such a shame.

King over here getting SAO and its characters better than anyone else in the thread's lates pages XD

Also, I think I saw the Asuna Family one you mean once...the thing is, hilariously, its 'derailment' was directly related to the issue Fujino escaped from...that guy had always done SAO NTR NSFW stuff on his Pixiv account, and it was clear he was for once building up slowly (A la Fujino with Part 2) to Asuna and Klein fucking behind Kirito's back...but then China made making +18 stuff a punishable-with-jail offense, so he had to delete everything too and couldn't do more, so he decided to turn it into a weird and nonsensical extremely ecchi comedy that never really showed anything happening because he COULDN'T, and making it suggestive in very random ways to try and make up for it (It also reflected on his work in general, like how he stopped doing the few double-NTR scenarios he had made in the past and how he stopped using Suguha altogether in any of his works, not that he had ever used her much but yeah).

 

[Infeno2.0]

Oh no no, I once heard a "wise saying" that when there is a conversation about reality or statistics, never call a bartender to this conversation, because these people have literally seen everything in this life. Even if a person runs around and shouts - "There are no aliens!", there will definitely be a bartender who will say, "You're wrong! A week ago, 3 little green men came to my bar..." So in this case, too, if I say in a bar, "It can't be that a fat, cowardly dude with no money fucked a rich beauty with an engagement ring," the bartender will probably answer, " You're wrong! The day before yesterday in the WC of my bar..."
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But still, the probability of what happened between Inoda and Asuna happening in the real world is close to zero. Not absolute zero, of course, but infinitely close to this value. So, I still think that the way Fujino did it doesn't look very realistic.

You are not wrong his stories sound like BS, but one thing that he told and it's true and even you already have seen it is how the alcohol has this pesky tendency to make people loose all inhibitions and do a bunch of sheet.
The fat ugly guy like i said if there's money involved and a wife/fiance whore will happen, now poor is way more difficult but not impossible either, human nature is a funny thing.

 

[mos555]

I don't get any feelings that Fujino dislikes SAO. At most he does not care about it which is not the same as disliking it. SAO is just a easily recognizable franchise he can use to sell his games. Just like all his other games uses popular franchises. Also I don't know how much Fujino "identifies" with Inoda. But Inoda is his original character he has written about for years now so I can believe there is some complex feelings Fujino has for Inoda. I really don't know how you should feel about a porn parody game. Most of the time the porn parody has to destroy the beautiful bonds that the canon characters made to make it work. It is what happens when you play something about your favorite series.

Well, I can't get into Fujino's head either, I just described what can be found in a psychology textbook in the chapter on destructive behavior. Fujino takes a popular product that has received critical acclaim and distorts and destroys this product in accordance with his vision. When a person really likes something, his moral principles will not allow him to mock it. From this, I can draw 2 conclusions -
1.Fujino doesn't give a damn about SAO completely, neither the characters nor the world itself touch him in any way, it's just a way for him to make money.
2.Fujino doesn't like SAO or his characters and he remakes him the way he wants to see him.

You have to understand Fujino was not well-known so making his own original story would limit his income. Not many people would give their time and money to some unknown if they are not making something they already liked. Which is why Fujino keeps using popular franchises so many people might try out his game out of curiosity. It is possible now he is somewhat popular he could make his own story since he has a lot of supporters who would give his original story a chance. But no, he is still planning on using another popular franchise.

This is a very weak excuse. There are thousands of examples of how people have achieved success on Patreon with their original product. Fujino doesn't really want to do everything completely - he's pinned 50 percent of the success on the popular names of the franchises and their characters. In China, there is even such a winged expression as "with half effort, double result." I think the point is clear. In fact, there are so few good erotic NTR games with beautiful 3D CG graphics that so I think Fujino shouldn't be lazy, he could have succeeded with the original product.