kinglionheart

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The plot itself was already complete, but because the initial design of this plot gives players a feeling at Level 1 and players are not used to it, so they want to see more Level 3 content, which they care more. That's why Fujino added more Level 3 content to meet players' needs.
But isn't your theory the game was originally Level 3 (Asuna's thoughts and focus) but starts to shift to Level 2 (Inoda's) is why people does not like the recent update? That does not make sense since Inoda's thoughts has been on full display for a while now. Most of the time when he is having conscious sex with Asuna we can hear his thoughts. That part had not changed.

I get POV is not the same as focus of the game. Even in Part 1, Kirito was just a noncharacter that he barely reacted to anything around him. But the focus was on his near discoveries of the corruption not on Asuna's corruption or Inoda. Asuna's parts were optional! For example nothing Inoda did to Asuna really had an effect. She still wanted to leave Inoda and go with Kirito to America. Which caused Inoda to do Lustiful Night as a desperate attempt to keep her but the effects of that were only explored in Part 2.
 

Aniky Light

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I think this could happen. In Chinese, it's called "洗白" ("wash white"), used to describe authors' actions to "make the bad guys not bad". For example, a cheating girlfriend is guilty, but she becomes not guilty when the author writes that "she cheats because her boyfriend cheats behind her back". So "cheating" becomes "revenge", and this woman's behavior is "washed white".

I think this could happen because Fujino becomes more and more like Asuna. It is possible that he will "wash white" Asuna by letting Kirito betray Asuna. So it's not Asuna who destroys their relationship, but Kirito who gives up Asuna and abandons her.

Then let Inoda (or Fujino) comes in to take Kirito's place.
Asuna: Good job Kirito, cheat on me so I have the perfect excuse to dump you and fuck with Inoda
*Suguha arrives and sees Kirito depressed*

Suguha: Kirito what's wrong with you, you look like a crab without a shell
Kirito: It's over, Asuna said he cheated on her
Suguha: Don't worry, obviously it's clear that she doesn't deserve you and don't worry, I have my word against her.
Kirito: In what sense?
Suguha: I know how things really went, but since my cousin is forgetful, I took care of it myself.
 
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I think this could happen. In Chinese, it's called "洗白" ("wash white"), used to describe authors' actions to "make the bad guys not bad". For example, a cheating girlfriend is guilty, but she becomes not guilty when the author writes that "she cheats because her boyfriend cheats behind her back". So "cheating" becomes "revenge", and this woman's behavior is "washed white".

I think this could happen because Fujino becomes more and more like Asuna. It is possible that he will "wash white" Asuna by letting Kirito betray Asuna. So it's not Asuna who destroys their relationship, but Kirito who gives up Asuna and abandons her.

Then let Inoda (or Fujino) comes in to take Kirito's place.
I don't know what you're talking about, but Kirito has betrayed Asuna for a long time now, I already wrote that Kirito and Asuna are absolutely identical characters in this game who cheat on each other, as for me, Asuna even wins here, she at least tries to squeeze out something about guilt, when Kirito just thinks that Asuna doesn't find out and that's it. (well, if you choose the path of the unfaithful Kirito, of course).
 

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Fujino: uhm I think that investigation of Suguha conflicts with my character and this is not good, enough, we remove everything and put everyone on the carousel of Inoda or his dick so I can conclude this game

This is called sweeping the problem under the carpet.
 
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I actually think Fujino has a chance to make Kirito fans happy and praising. He just needs to make it possible to refuse the inode and 1 CGs of Kirito with a giant dick fucking Asuna at the beginning of the game and everyone would be happy. I think Kirito fans would be extremely happy about this and all the hate would evaporate
 

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Kirito has betrayed Asuna for a long time now
Kirito does not betray, Kirito is pushed to betray by someone whose name I will not name, because that someone wants to win at all costs, there are more betrayals than Asuna with that feeling of guilt, yes, it's fake, not genuine at all and if he really felt guilty, he wouldn't make the same mistakes, the only person she feels guilty for is Inoda

Objective: To push Kirito to betray so that Asuna can leave him,
 
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Hi, I am currently replaying the games.
I am now with Alice the second time in the brothel.

Can anyone tell me when the corruption of Alice by Fubuki ? started?
I can only remember the first Brother Scene where she did the manager and there was possibly a scene in the police station, where I could not look into.
When did her corruption begin? When did Fubuki? start her training?
 
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Hi, I am currently replaying the games.
I am now with Alice the second time in the brothel.

Can anyone tell me when the corruption of Alice by Fubuki ? started?
I can only remember the first Brother Scene where she did the manager and there was possibly a scene in the police station, where I could not look into.
When did her corruption begin? When did Fubuki? start her training?
when you first time go on the street with an investigation, then she is hypnotized and everything begins
 

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Hello everyone! The latest update has been completed... I haven't laughed so hard in a long time, of course!
From your stories, I thought that Inoda had somehow hacked Asuna's memory and replaced Kirito in all her memories, but here...
From the very beginning, when Kirito said that Yui had problems with determining her parents, Asuna should have immediately understood that the problem was her actions. But as usual, she doesn't care. The fact that Kirito doesn't understand why the problem happened - that's exactly logical. They go to Asuna's memory and that's where the funniest part is. In all episodes, Asuna voluntarily replaces all the most important memories with Kirito with memories with Inoda. You can object - otherwise there would have been a system failure! Well, for this bullshit we should say "thank you" to our beloved author of this creation. In the end, we have the usual "crooked logic" here.
As soon as Asuna tries to kick Inoda out of bed, warnings immediately start - danger! danger! memory is broken! And the presence of a completely different person in the memory, and if in fact, even a "third" person who should not be there - does not break the memory? Or does the "system" not see Inoda, although it itself gives him the function of invisibility?! (I wrote this purely for sarcasm).
To make it completely clear - if Asuna gets up, kicks Inoda in the balls and throws him out, and then does everything as it was in the original story, then the "difference in memories" will be much smaller than if she does something completely different from what she was really doing all the time. Like, for example, in the memories under the tree. She should have been sleeping, but in the end she was jerking off all the time - and nothing! No mistakes! It's just real magic!!!
Well, the funniest thing here is - why didn't she kick Inoda right away?!
Kirito, Inoda climbed in here without asking in invisible mode. And that's it. Problem solved! They kicked Inoda in pairs. threw him out and continued... in fact, at least half of Asuna's "hopeless" situations in this game could have been solved this way...
Oh well, we'll eat what they give us)
As a result - standard crap - the author's plot directly pulls Inoda and completely ignores the main character.
Well, it was funny to read some of the comments this week - Asuna is still not indifferent to Kirito! Yeah!!! Of course she is! She just "shat" on all her most important memories with him, fucking Inoda at this time! Straight love to the grave! And all this, of course, for the sake of Yui!!! Nothing else!
Well, and the sex scenes this time are really good! And not like in the last update - half the scene we discuss Inoda's ass))) Yeah-yeah. Really sexy!
Well, and the funniest thing is that Yui's return is Asuna's most important task in this game! And what does Asuna do in all the quests to return Yui? That's right!!! Asuna doesn't give a shit about anything and she just stupidly fucks Inoda)))
 

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Well, it was funny to read some of the comments this week - Asuna is still not indifferent to Kirito! Yeah!!! Of course she is! She just "shat" on all her most important memories with him, fucking Inoda at this time! Straight love to the grave!
Well, technically, she's not indifferent to Kirito at the moment-the friend she fell in love with while Inoda wasn't in her life. She is grateful to him for saving and supporting her for 2 years after Aincrad, she really fell in love with Kirito during that time, but at the moment, she will stay by his side so as not to hurt him. So far, Asuna has not given up on plans to marry Kirito. And Inoda becomes a secret husband and real love.

If earlier such a point of view could be called epic hypocrisy towards Kirito, then when Asuna's memory changed, she thinks that hypocrisy is to reject Inoda. I'll stand up one more time and applaud Fujino - "do it beautifully, do it easily"
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Well, technically, she's not indifferent to Kirito at the moment-the friend she fell in love with while Inoda wasn't in her life. She is grateful to him for saving and supporting her for 2 years after Aincrad, she really fell in love with Kirito during that time, but at the moment, she will stay by his side so as not to hurt him. So far, Asuna has not given up on plans to marry Kirito. And Inoda becomes a secret husband and real love.

If earlier such a point of view could be called epic hypocrisy towards Kirito, then when Asuna's memory changed, she thinks that hypocrisy is to reject Inoda. I'll stand up one more time and applaud Fujino - "do it beautifully, do it easily"
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So that's what my whole post is about. The point is not that Asuna's thoughts/memory changed at the end of the update. She was intentionally trampling Kirito into the dirt "all" this update! Knowing that all of this is happening in her head and there will be consequences! like what happened to Yui's body, and the fact that she can't start functioning. What kind of love is this?! There's not even the usual respect for your friend.
 
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So that's what my whole post is about. The point is not that Asuna's thoughts/memory changed at the end of the update. She was intentionally trampling Kirito into the dirt "all" this update! Knowing that all of this is happening in her head and there will be consequences! like what happened to Yui's body, and the fact that she can't start functioning. What kind of love is this?! There's not even the usual respect for your friend.
technically she didn't know and Inoda didn't know, because he was surprised at some point in the dialogues. but here it's just the stupidity of the character as in all other moments, like conditionally Asuna didn't know that her memories were changing and this would have an effect not only on Yui but also on her, like for example during the ritual when she fucked Inoda, and the fact that he is Yui's father but there were such moments throughout the game and there will probably be many more of them
 

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A good but somewhat oblivious observation about NTR games. The levels can be POVs players can see since there are usually only three actors in NTR stories. Most netorare and netorase games will only show one, either the cuck's or the woman's, POV and some will show both. Then there are netori games that will show the bull's POV.

Your conclusion about why the recent update is upsetting is incorrect. All of Fujino's games until later part of Part 1 has been Level 1 (cuck's POV). He even acknowledged his style changed.

Previous works focused solely on the protagonist’s point of view, but since many people expressed interest in seeing things from Asuna’s perspective, I made changes in that direction.

Early parts of Part 1 focus almost entirely on Kirito's POV with brief glimpses into Asuna's POV (Asuna's room) then in Part 2, changes were made in a lot more focus was on Asuna's and Inoda's POV and thoughts. Your theory does explain why some people prefer Part 1 to Part 2. But it doesn't explain why the most recent update made so many people uncomfortable since we have been seeing more of Inoda's thoughts thoughts for a while now. But still a good and clear observation on NTR stories.

Personally I think the reason people do not like the recent update is the simple reason of seeing something they love, the canon love story moments of Kirito and Asuna or maybe Yui specially, gets so perverted and using the easy route of mind control instead of more complex psychological reasons.
And how would you, and other forum members, feel about a game in which most things happen from a woman's point of view?
I just think it's more interesting than playing as a character who usually doesn't influence anything.
I just once wrote that for me, NTR/cheating is more psychology than just a stupid sex scene with someone else. Moreover, the fact that there was a person with certain principles and suddenly he saw a big dick/big boobs and that's it, he threw all his life principles in the trash right there is incomprehensible. And the view from a cheating character can just show his changes.
 

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So that's what my whole post is about. The point is not that Asuna's thoughts/memory changed at the end of the update. She was intentionally trampling Kirito into the dirt "all" this update! Knowing that all of this is happening in her head and there will be consequences! like what happened to Yui's body, and the fact that she can't start functioning. What kind of love is this?! There's not even the usual respect for your friend.
If you read the list of perks, it's clear that this is bound to happen. The main interest was how Fujino would do it. You have seen the result... Well, if we summarize Asuna's behavior and character in this game, then in her hypocritical mind, the fact that she still hasn't thrown Kirito out of her life is the highest expression of respect and love.

Her status says, "I will stay by Kirito's side as long as it doesn't hurt him," how can you believe that if Asuna is deceitful and hypocritical the rest of her time? As I wrote above, Fujino will most likely make Kirito to blame for everything, and Asuna and Inoda will be unhappy and deceived. So don't pay attention to Asuna's feelings for Kirito at the moment, I think it's a short prelude before falling into the abyss.
 
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technically she didn't know and Inoda didn't know, because he was surprised at some point in the dialogues. but here it's just the stupidity of the character as in all other moments, like conditionally Asuna didn't know that her memories were changing and this would have an effect not only on Yui but also on her, like for example during the ritual when she fucked Inoda, and the fact that he is Yui's father but there were such moments throughout the game and there will probably be many more of them
Well, no, you won't buy me into that! Inoda just doesn't give a shit and doesn't care about the ritual, the memory or anything else. He just wants to fuck Asuna. Asuna might not have known that behind the next door she needs to have sex to get a baby. But when you need to fuck during the event to have a baby, then to think that it won't affect anything... well, I don't know. With such development, she should be smearing porridge on the walls in a school for the mentally retarded)
 

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If you read the list of perks, it's clear that this is bound to happen. The main interest was how Fujino would do it. You have seen the result... Well, if we summarize Asuna's behavior and character in this game, then in her hypocritical mind, the fact that she still hasn't thrown Kirito out of her life is the highest expression of respect and love.

Her status says, "I will stay by Kirito's side as long as it doesn't hurt him," how can you believe that if Asuna is deceitful and hypocritical the rest of her time? As I wrote above, Fujino will most likely make Kirito to blame for everything, and Asuna and Inoda will be unhappy and deceived. So don't pay attention to Asuna's feelings for Kirito at the moment, I think it's a short prelude before falling into the abyss.
Thank you! It doesn't bother me at all, and in some places it just makes me laugh. I'm more bothered by the idiocy of the whole story. But, as I just wrote above, we have a heroine here who shouldn't be managing a huge corporation, but rather mastering games for preschoolers)))
And another moment that always makes me laugh!
Every time during the "role-playing game" Inoda makes Asuna promise something, and then she can't refuse him, because "well, I promised!".
Asuna is the director of a corporation. The company is making a big deal. Asuna saw a big bulge in the pants of a guy from the opposite office and couldn't resist the pleasure of fucking. During sex - And you, whore, will sign the transfer of all the shares of your company to us!
Yes, yes! I'll sign everything, just don't stop!
The next day - well, here is the signed document on the transfer of all the assets of our corporation... No, well, why not? I promised! )))
 
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Is your translator malfunctioning, or my? I wrote that I have been familiar with the SAO franchise for over 20 years. Reki Kawahara first wrote SAO in 2002 as a competition paper. But then the work was not accepted for the competition because it was too voluminous. As a result, Reki Kawahara released his novel online under a pseudonym. There were 3 volumes in total and several small stories. I noticed SAO, sometime in 2004-2005, when one of my classmates, a lover of Japanese art, said that there was a cool novel and there was a translation from Japanese, so far only 2 volumes. And in 2009, the SAO series was officially released. As it is, I'm 36 years old and I have 2 children, I think that's normal.

I know it's a parody. But we're not talking about whether it's a parody or not. If you read carefully what you quoted in mine, I wrote about whether Fujino really likes the orginal SAO or not. There's not a word about the parody at all.
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A well-known phrase is "You can do whatever you want with my body, but don't disturb my sleep." :ROFLMAO:

Hmm, is there really such a thing in the game?:oops: Well, I wrote that Inoda and Kirito, in fact, switched places in Asuna's head, and in her priority lists. And to that, it's worth adding that Asuna's thinking towards Inoda is increasingly distorted by perks. The more she allows Inode, the more she trusts him. Her status says that one of her favorite pastimes is sex with Inoda. In short, because of the memory changes and all those fetishes and deviations that Asuna acquired thanks to Inoda, she began to trust him unconditionally and cannot refuse anything. The funny thing is that Asuna allowed to do what Inoda already did. She's so dumb.

But you're right, brother, from the point of view of a normal relationship, it's weird. Using someone's body while they're unconscious is beyond good and evil. We know this is a game, and Fujino made Asuna, Inoda's exclusive whore, but imagine if this situation were more realistic. Does Fujino like the rape fetish or fucking an insensitive body?

I think such a psychopath and rapist Inoda, would, for example, call some hotel employee or other hotel guest - "For 10,000 yen, you can fuck her, she won't understand anything. Don't crowd, get in line!"
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Well, true, lol, because I'm Italian and I use Google Translate. Also, I know it started in 2002, and your copy and paste from REKI's wikifandom is good. The truth is, there's not much to think about, whether Asuna becomes a whore so quickly, if Cukito is stupid, that's how NTRs are.
 
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mos555

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as if Fujino doesn't feel pity for anyone, not even his own character xD
No one likes Inoda except Fujino, so he will put Inoda in a situation where Kirito deceived him and Asuna. This adds points to Inoda, as a dramatic hero, a victim of the machinations of the evil deceiver Kirito. Inoda selflessly defends the honor of his pig wife in front of the deceiver Kirito.

Authors who choose one favorite character tend to idealize and dramatize his image, so don't be surprised, bro, that in future updates there will be a scene in which Asuna says to Inode, "How brave you are, protecting me from that damn liar Kirito, he cheated on me with Suguha and dared to accuse me of something else! Now I'm yours forever, Inoda!"

Asuna-
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And so you get a change of perspective. Asuna, for all her hypocrisy, is a little justified, Inoda becomes a little more heroic, and Kirito becomes the main asshole. :cool:
 
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Well, no, you won't buy me into that! Inoda just doesn't give a shit and doesn't care about the ritual, the memory or anything else. He just wants to fuck Asuna. Asuna might not have known that behind the next door she needs to have sex to get a baby. But when you need to fuck during the event to have a baby, then to think that it won't affect anything... well, I don't know. With such development, she should be smearing porridge on the walls in a school for the mentally retarded)
that's what I'm writing about, that she should, in theory, understand something in this VR world, what things influence what, but because all the characters here have a negative IQ, this will happen and will continue to happen.
 
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