RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.851] [Fujino]

[mos555]

This isn't believable to me, mainly because I no longer believe Asuna would be interested in Inoda because of her personality. They're complete opposites and aren't people who would maintain contact over time.
The decision is clearly that she wants either Kirito or Inoda in her life, but there's no middle ground.
Inoda's already had his fun, so if he were to stay alone, it wouldn't matter since he doesn't care about anyone in his life either. He's a loner who treats women as sexual objects.
Leaving Inoda as Asuna's lover would be unsatisfying for the player.
Fujino should let the player be happy with their choice of ending.
Either they want an Asuna Kirito ending, or they want an Asuna Inoda ending, but one that's satisfying.

How to translate the phrase correctly is "But even if Kirito ends up with Asuna". The translator, it seems to me, is a bit dumb. "ends up" - is it to break up or stay?

 

[mos555]

This is most interesting for me. We all know Yui's power and what her present can mean. If we follow the original setting then she is an AI with independent thoughts. So she will be willingly help Inoda?

As I wrote above, it depends on how Fujino changed Yui. What does she remember? How does she feel about Kirito? Inoda? Asuna? Will she think on her own or will she just be a tool for Inoda? Who would she listen to more, Asuna, who would tell her not to touch Kirito, or Inoda, who would tell her to cause Kirito problems? There are too many questions. In the original, she could interact with the core of a virtual game and change the rules, in the real world, she could also hack and get information.

If Fujino makes Yui in accordance with the original characters, then he gives Inode too powerful a tool. Inoda is a psychotic maniac, who knows, what will come to his mind if Yui follows his orders.

 

[Aniky Light]

How to translate the phrase correctly is "But even if Kirito ends up with Asuna". The translator, it seems to me, is a bit dumb. "ends up" - is it to break up or stay?

it's actually a bit confusing

 

[mos555]

it's actually a bit confusing

My translator translates differently every time. In one case, he translates as - "But even if Kirito stays with Asuna"(continues the relationship with Asuna), in the other - "But even if Kirito ends with Asuna"(breaks up with Asuna) I think the words "ends up" are something like "Kirito is coming to the end of the game while staying in a relationship with Asuna"

"Kirito's ends up with regrets" Has Kirito decided to stop regretting, or is Kirito finishing something with regrets?

kinglionheart Help me!

 

[Aniky Light]

Inoda will try with Suguha but he will fail because he will find out that Suguha has become a futa xD

 

[Kimigaaruji]

I was a bit concerned about the state of Asuna, but I am a bit relieved. I would love multiple endings, but if there's only one I think the unfaithful Asuna staying with Kirito is best. My enthusiasm is renewed.

 

[Aniky Light]

If I were Kirito, I would have left Asuna, because if a girl lies to you once, she will lie to you forever.

 

[SouthTurtle]

Fujino said that memory alteration is not hypnosis or brainwashing, but I think he missed the point. What's the reason for hypnosis or brainwashing in the first place? It's to alteration memories.
It's that we dislike the easy solution called memory alteration in NTR game, it's not that he hates it because it's hypnosis or brainwashing.
When Asuna switching from Kirito to Inoda, it seems like memory alteration will have a major impact.
But Fujino said it would be much less impact, so we have no choice but to trust him.

 

[Zipjhon]

Ever since I saw the update and people's comments, I've been thinking: This game should cuckold the game's characters, not my expectations for multiple endings.
I don't know how reliable the developer's reports are, but using the love counter to answer questions seems questionable at best. He can go and do a "100 points to Inoda" from one update to the next.

In case there end up being multiple endings, but they're very simple or variations, I'd like a "good" ending where Kirito can just leave Asuna and do his own thing.
Kirito may be a fool in relationships, but he seems competent in other things.
Maybe he'll stay in Japan with another of the side girls in case the story doesn't go for Total Netorare.
And if that happens, he could leave the country as planned.
Maybe Inoda managed to get all the girls, or Kirito found out about Asuna cheating on him and Liz and Suguha's conspiracies to damage their relationship.

Of all the girls, I don't feel any of them are good.
Since they've all tried to harm or are aware of Asuna cheating on Kirito and haven't tried to warn him.
I feel like at the moment the one who can be considered the best (in my opinion) is Sinon.
She does all those sexual things, but she's never hidden them if Kirito interacts with her, he already knows what to expect and what a relationship with her could be like.

 

[mos555]

Fujino said that memory alteration is not hypnosis or brainwashing, but I think he missed the point. What's the reason for hypnosis or brainwashing in the first place? It's to alteration memories.
It's that we dislike the easy solution called memory alteration in NTR game, it's not that he hates it because it's hypnosis or brainwashing.
When Asuna switching from Kirito to Inoda, it seems like memory alteration will have a major impact.
But Fujino said it would be much less impact, so we have no choice but to trust him.

It even sounds silly.

"Events after leaving SAO haven't been significantly altered—only some conflicting memories involving Inoda have been self-rationalized by Asuna. This memory alteration isn’t hypnosis or brainwashing, let alone a personality overwrite. Its actual impact is far less than what people may assume. You’ll see more in later versions."

Fujino writes, "actual impact is far less than what people may assume." What do I need to assume about? I'm just talking about what I see on the screen in front of me. Asuna's memory of the events of Aincrad, 4 years ago, has changed. The memory of the events that defined her relationship with Kirito and Yui, and Inoda is added to this memory, as if he had always been there.

Then her brain rationalizes the contradictions by itself, obviously deleting and adding the missing pieces of memory, which again radically changes the reasons for Asuna and Kirito's relationship. Before - she used to fall in love with him in Aincrad, and loved him all the time, decided to marry him, and now - she started dating Kirito after Aincrad, because Inoda disappeared somewhere and gradually fell in love with him.

Do you feel the difference?

Only lover, Yui father, and future husband since Aincrad, or just a partner she fell in love with because Inoda wasn't around all this time. Asuna herself says that she stayed with Kirito out of gratitude, but gradually fell in love.

That is, if Inoda did not disappear somewhere in Asuna's altered memory (This is generally strange - if Asuna's memory "self-rationalized", as she explained to herself, why did she not try to find Inoda these 2 years? ) for 2 years, the memory was self-rationalized and she would instantly stop loving Kirito? From 800 to 0 per second.(It's a good thing that Asuna's memory couldn't "rationalize" the 2 years of relationship with Inoda after Aincrad).

And this is called "actual impact is far less"? It's a huge fucking impact that completely changes the relationships between the main characters.

If Fujino says that everything is not so important, then he literally devalues his own decisions in his own game. It looks as if the commentators put pressure on Fujino, and he decided to ignore all the consequences of his own decision and he says, "You just don't understand what I wanted to do!" Yes... It's hard for creators in this world filled with a dull gray mass.

 

[ASDZXCQWER1321]

Fujino said that memory alteration is not hypnosis or brainwashing, but I think he missed the point. What's the reason for hypnosis or brainwashing in the first place? It's to alteration memories.
It's that we dislike the easy solution called memory alteration in NTR game, it's not that he hates it because it's hypnosis or brainwashing.
When Asuna switching from Kirito to Inoda, it seems like memory alteration will have a major impact.
But Fujino said it would be much less impact, so we have no choice but to trust him.

I think Fujino is just trying to DamageControl
like it's not that significant, it doesn't really have an effect, it's just a joke, since there were so many dissatisfied people when he first missed the sex scene in the closet, I think xD

 

[oozaru2023]

lmao why is there so much fear that SUGUHA will get into the act if almost all the women there are potential SLUTS the truth is it wouldn't surprise me nor would I reject it but I think this can happen more in FOG than in the real world anyway, reading some of the questions I see that they are a little naive I suppose it is from new people who are just getting into NTR, the idea of several endings I had already thought about and that Asuna will continue loving cuckito, the typical phrase my heart is yours but my vagina belongs to INODA, more or less like that xd

 

[mos555]

I don't know how reliable the developer's reports are, but using the love counter to answer questions seems questionable at best. He can go and do a "100 points to Inoda" from one update to the next.

Kirito's RP is reduced if he fucked Asuna badly or made some mistake, and Inoda's points are added simply because he fucks Asuna well. At the same time, Asuna instantly notices Kirito's problems and mistakes, but never notices what Inoda is doing. She doesn't notice manipulation, blackmail, or even the fact that Inoda directly insults Kirito (800 points, she loves Kirito so much, why doesn't she stop Inoda?), she prefers not to notice or supports it.

But Fujino tells us, "look at RP in the statistics," but, firstly, they absolutely do not correspond to the situation, and secondly, they are calculated and reduced absolutely hypocritically and unfairly. Should I just look at the RP and not pay attention to what's going on in the game? This extremely stupid - is one element of statistics more important than the plot, events, and visual of the game?

Asuna - "Kirito, you're a loser, you have a small dick, you can't satisfy me, and you're so dumb!"
Kirito - "What? Asuna! What are you saying?"
Asuna - "I'm saying this, because love you! Look, you still have 800 points!"
Kirito - "Oh, right. Still 800 points. Then, I'm sure, you love me!"

 

[ASDZXCQWER1321]

lmao why is there so much fear that SUGUHA will get into the act if almost all the women there are potential SLUTS the truth is it wouldn't surprise me nor would I reject it but I think this can happen more in FOG than in the real world anyway, reading some of the questions I see that they are a little naive I suppose it is from new people who are just getting into NTR, the idea of several endings I had already thought about and that Asuna will continue loving cuckito, the typical phrase my heart is yours but my vagina belongs to INODA, more or less like that xd
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well I don't know I just thought it was funny to defend Suguha in any situation, so I decided to join her cult (and I like the character design).
well the rest of the comments I saw were not so much about Suguha's fear of NTR, but about another potential plot hole that will happen, since based on the positions we are in now, Suguha Inoda's NTR cannot be made logical.
and most importantly, Inoda's haters, here I also think more about Inoda getting something, and not worrying about Suguha

 

[EdenGenesis]

This isn't believable to me, mainly because I no longer believe Asuna would be interested in Inoda because of her personality. They're complete opposites and aren't people who would maintain contact over time.
The decision is clearly that she wants either Kirito or Inoda in her life, but there's no middle ground.
Inoda's already had his fun, so if he were to stay alone, it wouldn't matter since he doesn't care about anyone in his life either. He's a loner who treats women as sexual objects.
Leaving Inoda as Asuna's lover would be unsatisfying for the player.
Fujino should let the player be happy with their choice of ending.
Either they want an Asuna Kirito ending, or they want an Asuna Inoda ending, but one that's satisfying.

Honestly, I’m with you—but we need to face the facts: this is an NTR game, not Sword Art Online, and that changes everything.

In NTR, especially the hentai kind, emotional bonds don’t matter if the physical part is gone. Kirito might still hold a piece of Asuna’s heart, but Inoda owns her body now—and that’s what counts in this genre. It's never about love. It's about who makes her lose control. And right now, it's that greasy bastard Inoda.

The worst part? The story doesn’t even try to do anything fresh. It’s the same tired formula: the MC is completely oblivious, never asks questions, doesn’t notice anything weird, and somehow finds it normal that his girlfriend is acting distant and spending all her time with the sketchiest guy around. Meanwhile, Inoda is out here living the dream—Asuna on demand, zero resistance. It's a full-access pass, and she just keeps coming back like it’s her job.

And she lies. Constantly. Not once does she seem to wrestle with guilt or hesitate. If she had even a shred of conscience, she would’ve ended things with Kirito or confessed. But no—she plays along, feeding into this garbage-tier NTR plot that’s only interested in showing how far she can fall without ever looking back.

At this point, there’s no hope for a satisfying ending. We already know Fujino isn’t going to hand Kirito a proper resolution. Still, a route where he walks away, finds someone who treats him with actual respect, and leaves all this behind? That would’ve had some real weight.

In this version of the story, Asuna’s his childhood friend—their families are close. So even after everything falls apart, she’d still have to see him from time to time. And imagine that moment when she sees him with a new girlfriend—someone he treats with genuine love and kindness. That’ll hit harder than any punishment. She’ll remember that she could’ve been the one by his side... if she hadn’t thrown it all away to chase whatever twisted satisfaction she gets from being used by Inoda.

Now she’s stuck raising his kid, slowly realizing that she means nothing to him, while he’s already eyeing Kirito’s new girl. Because of course he is. That’s what cockroaches like Inoda do—crawl toward whatever they can ruin next. And when he finally gets rejected and humiliated? Good. He deserves every second of it. Hopefully by then he’s so broken and ugly even the desperate sluts who once lined up for his dick wouldn’t touch him again.

Kirito forgiving her? Taking in another man’s child? That wouldn’t be noble—it’d be pathetic. She made her choice. Let her live with it. Kirito deserves to move on. Inoda deserves to be alone with his rotting ego.

And yeah, I’m saying all this knowing full well it doesn’t matter. A “justice” ending wouldn’t work in a hentai game like this—not because it isn’t realistic, but because nothing in this story supports it. Kirito doesn’t question anything. He’s not suspicious. He’s not curious. He’s basically furniture at this point.

Even the girls who were supposedly on his side? They fell for Inoda too. Why? Because hentai logic says a big cock makes up for everything. Forget betrayal, lies, or moral decay—just give the guy a meat stick and the world bends over.

At this point, I’d rather someone hand these girls a proper dildo and some antibiotics. It’d save them from catching whatever STD-ridden, sewer-grade bacteria Inoda’s dragging around between his legs.

No sympathy left. Not for her. Definitely not for him.

 

[mos555]

well I don't know I just thought it was funny to defend Suguha in any situation, so I decided to join her cult (and I like the character design).
well the rest of the comments I saw were not so much about Suguha's fear of NTR, but about another potential plot hole that will happen, since based on the positions we are in now, Suguha Inoda's NTR cannot be made logical.
and most importantly, Inoda's haters, here I also think more about Inoda getting something, and not worrying about Suguha

Welcome to the Cult

 

[EdenGenesis]

It even sounds silly.

"Events after leaving SAO haven't been significantly altered—only some conflicting memories involving Inoda have been self-rationalized by Asuna. This memory alteration isn’t hypnosis or brainwashing, let alone a personality overwrite. Its actual impact is far less than what people may assume. You’ll see more in later versions."

Fujino writes, "actual impact is far less than what people may assume." What do I need to assume about? I'm just talking about what I see on the screen in front of me. Asuna's memory of the events of Aincrad, 4 years ago, has changed. The memory of the events that defined her relationship with Kirito and Yui, and Inoda is added to this memory, as if he had always been there.

Then her brain rationalizes the contradictions by itself, obviously deleting and adding the missing pieces of memory, which again radically changes the reasons for Asuna and Kirito's relationship. Before - she used to fall in love with him in Aincrad, and loved him all the time, decided to marry him, and now - she started dating Kirito after Aincrad, because Inoda disappeared somewhere and gradually fell in love with him.

Do you feel the difference?

Only lover, Yui father, and future husband since Aincrad, or just a partner she fell in love with because Inoda wasn't around all this time. Asuna herself says that she stayed with Kirito out of gratitude, but gradually fell in love.

That is, if Inoda did not disappear somewhere in Asuna's altered memory (This is generally strange - if Asuna's memory "self-rationalized", as she explained to herself, why did she not try to find Inoda these 2 years? ) for 2 years, the memory was self-rationalized and she would instantly stop loving Kirito? From 800 to 0 per second.(It's a good thing that Asuna's memory couldn't "rationalize" the 2 years of relationship with Inoda after Aincrad).

And this is called "actual impact is far less"? It's a huge fucking impact that completely changes the relationships between the main characters.

If Fujino says that everything is not so important, then he literally devalues his own decisions in his own game. It looks as if the commentators put pressure on Fujino, and he decided to ignore all the consequences of his own decision and he says, "You just don't understand what I wanted to do!" Yes... It's hard for creators in this world filled with a dull gray mass.

At this point, I’m starting to think Fujino didn’t just write an NTR game—he NTR’d his own fanbase.

We came in thinking we were getting a twisted love triangle or a morally complex NTR plot, and instead, he’s out here memory-fucking the canon and gaslighting us like we're the side characters. “The impact is far less than you assume”? Bro, Asuna’s entire timeline and emotional development got rewritten like a cheap doujin plot—and we’re supposed to just nod and go, “Yeah okay, that’s fine”?

Nah. This isn't just character betrayal anymore, it's narrative cucking. We’re watching the relationship we knew get gutted, replaced with some dollar-store rewrite where Inoda is retroactively inserted into the emotional foundation like he’s been there all along—while Kirito’s role gets quietly shoved into “plan B.” Fujino didn’t just NTR Kirito. He NTR’d us.

Next patch preview: “We assure you, the story remains unchanged—except everything that mattered.”

 

[Aniky Light]

Even the girls who were supposedly on his side? They fell for Inoda too

Why are you talking in the past tense? Which girls are you talking about? Suguha, Sinon, Alice are not in love with Inoda, Suguha hates that bastard, Sinon would fuck him but it will be like with her clients and if Inoda does something wrong, Sinon cuts his dick off, Alice doesn't even know who Inoda is

 

[kinglionheart]

My translator translates differently every time. In one case, he translates as - "But even if Kirito stays with Asuna"(continues the relationship with Asuna), in the other - "But even if Kirito ends with Asuna"(breaks up with Asuna) I think the words "ends up" are something like "Kirito is coming to the end of the game while staying in a relationship with Asuna"

"Kirito's ends up with regrets" Has Kirito decided to stop regretting, or is Kirito finishing something with regrets?

kinglionheart Help me!

Fujino is saying if Kirito and Asuna stays as an couple in an ending, Asuna will still continue to have sex with Inoda. Most likely he is talking about the Kirito does not find out ending we keep taking about.

Hope that was clear.

 

[EdenGenesis]

Why are you talking in the past tense? Which girls are you talking about? Suguha, Sinon, Alice are not in love with Inoda, Suguha hates that bastard, Sinon would fuck him but it will be like with her clients and if Inoda does something wrong, Sinon cuts his dick off, Alice doesn't even know who Inoda is

Let me rephrase it properly—none of these girls love Inoda. Hell no. What they fell for was the way he rearranged their insides like a pro-level casting couch director. It's not romance—it’s muscle memory. Their brains say “ew,” but their hips keep showing up for auditions.

Inoda doesn’t need to talk sweet, bring flowers, or even fake basic decency. He skips all that and goes straight to imprinting himself on their bodies like a personalized fuck signature. Asuna’s not thinking about feelings anymore—her body just recognizes who owns the rhythm now. Kirito might try to slide in, and it’s like her pussy hits a pop-up: “Wrong user. Please re-insert Inoda.”

That’s the level we’re at.

So Kirito can pour his heart out all he wants, but the real battle’s already lost—physically. Inoda’s got the keys to her moans, her folds, her womb—and he even dropped off a child like it was a cum-stamped trophy. No flowers. No goodbye. Just "You're welcome."

Enjoy what’s left, Kirito. He already played the final scene. You’re just here for the awkward epilogue.