AlterInfernalAllius

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Welcome back traveler. At least you came back to nonsensical but on-topic posts this time. :LOL:

I agree Suguha's biggest reaction to finding out Asuna's cheating is giving herself the okay to take Kirito away from Asuna. But I wonder if her second biggest reaction is punishing Asuna for hurting her Kirito? It is a common Yandare trait to get violent on those she doesn't like. When Liz almost raped Kirito, she only politely warned her to play fair so maybe no. On the other hand Liz only ALMOST hurt Kirito but Asuna DID hurt Kirito so there is that. What does everyone else think?
Hmm, from Suguha’s perspective, Asuna hasn’t hurt Kirito yet because he’s still oblivious. So for her, it might actually be beneficial to just go with the flow and let Asuna naturally drift apart from him. As Asuna spends less and less time with Kirito, Suguha would have better opportunities to get closer to him. :WeSmart:
More or less what 4-kun said there, right now Asuna hasn't "actually" hurt Kirito because her cheating hasn't been exposed, and Suguha plans to keep it that way, only that her "solution" is that she's gonna steal Kazuto for herself so Asuna's cheating won't matter (Which, yeah, retarded NTR logic only so the game doesn't end as soon as she found out, even if it ironically turns around to keeping 'in-character' for Suguha still being the only one in the game who still legit cares for Kirito's well-being and happiness over her own, as he could have ended their relationship right there and then picked up the pieces of a broken-hearted and traumatized Kirito if she had been selfish enough, lol).
 

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Hmm, from Suguha’s perspective, Asuna hasn’t hurt Kirito yet because he’s still oblivious. So for her, it might actually be beneficial to just go with the flow and let Asuna naturally drift apart from him. As Asuna spends less and less time with Kirito, Suguha would have better opportunities to get closer to him. :WeSmart:
More or less what 4-kun said there, right now Asuna hasn't "actually" hurt Kirito because her cheating hasn't been exposed, and Suguha plans to keep it that way, only that her "solution" is that she's gonna steal Kazuto for herself so Asuna's cheating won't matter (Which, yeah, retarded NTR logic only so the game doesn't end as soon as she found out, even if it ironically turns around to keeping 'in-character' for Suguha still being the only one in the game who still legit cares for Kirito's well-being and happiness over her own, as he could have ended their relationship right there and then picked up the pieces of a broken-hearted and traumatized Kirito if she had been selfish enough, lol).
Interesting. So you guys don't think Suguha would be angry at Asuna for cheating on Kirito since he doesn't know about it. I always thought if someone was hurting someone you loved, even if that person does not know about it, you would hate that person.

Personally I hope Suguha does not just wait around like the perfect girlfriend while Asuna drifts apart from Kirito. Then swoop in to claim Kirito. This do nothing and win strategy is too close to Inoda's. But if we are considering Suguha to be Inoda's female counterpart then it is the ideal path to the "everyone is happy" ending.
 

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Interesting. So you guys don't think Suguha would be angry at Asuna for cheating on Kirito since he doesn't know about it. I always thought if someone was hurting someone you loved, even if that person does not know about it, you would hate that person.

Personally I hope Suguha does not just wait around like the perfect girlfriend while Asuna drifts apart from Kirito. Then swoop in to claim Kirito. This do nothing and win strategy is too close to Inoda's. But if we are considering Suguha to be Inoda's female counterpart then it is the ideal path to the "everyone is happy" ending.
I don’t think she’ll be passive—she’ll definitely find a way to act. Even though it would logically benefit her to play the Asuna cheating card, that won’t happen because it would cause severe consequences. I think it would be too much work for Fujino to integrate other characters into the main plot, so it’s easier to keep her as a hidden supporter who isn’t directly involved. Personally, I believe she’ll scheme behind the scenes, subtly manipulating things here and there. Her actions will likely help Inoda in some way while also serving her own interests.
 
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Interesting. So you guys don't think Suguha would be angry at Asuna for cheating on Kirito since he doesn't know about it. I always thought if someone was hurting someone you loved, even if that person does not know about it, you would hate that person.

Personally I hope Suguha does not just wait around like the perfect girlfriend while Asuna drifts apart from Kirito. Then swoop in to claim Kirito. This do nothing and win strategy is too close to Inoda's. But if we are considering Suguha to be Inoda's female counterpart then it is the ideal path to the "everyone is happy" ending.
I've always thought that this is the ideal way, so that no one gets hurt. Image_20250201_194859.jpg
 

Xill

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I played a bit of this, and I assume the MC is one of those that won't ever find out, right?
 

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I tried to play, but too much confusion between the real, the virtual, then when there are MCs that are too stupid, I don't play them, I don't like them.
 

kinglionheart

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I played a bit of this, and I assume the MC is one of those that won't ever find out, right?
The game is not over yet so it is too early to tell.

I tried to play, but too much confusion between the real, the virtual, then when there are MCs that are too stupid, I don't play them, I don't like them.
Wow a real-life sap who gets confused between the real and virtual world! :LUL::LUL::LUL:
 

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do we have an eta for when this will be complete? i like it a lot, but im not patient enoought to play it bite by bite
 

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Oh, well if he hasn't found out after so many updates he probably never will. Or will and might kill himself. Or maybe it will turn into NTRS, who knows.
Some people will probably come to reference how in the early stages of Part 1, that Fujino mentioned two endings, one of which would be Netorase. The makings of it seem like it's there, so it's possible. For example, the recent update has potentially 3 different characters that would either "comfort" Kirito when everything is exposed, but also maybe feed into the submissive netorase fetish he might develop. The 3 potential characters are Suguha, Sinon, and Liz. Liz might be confusing because she's ultimately going to end up Inoda's bitch, but I wouldn't be surprised if she tries to bang both on the side because she's twisted in her own way.

Anyways, for another example on the netorase stuff, we're currently at a point in the game where Kirito is able to unintentionally spy on Inoda and Asuna while they're locked away for 2 weeks in a hotel. That setting can probably build up to netorase.


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There's hints it can happen, and what Kinglion said to you.
 

gaka200

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For the people talking about Suguha, I do feel like she dislikes or hates Asuna. She's just prioritizing how Kirito feels more than exposing anything. But Suguha is overall twisted enough to do a lot of shady things that I think she'll directly or indirectly influence Kirito's break-up and/or exposure to Asuna's affair.

Like I personally wouldn't be surprised if Suguha uses the base visiting permission to use her illegal cheats to bug the place. Like she could bug it with cameras (basically what she does IRL). She does have an idea that Asuna is cheating Kirito, but she might want to know to what extent that may be. Also if she were to go a little more off the far end, she would naturally want to keep tabs on everyone so she knows when to get into contact with Kirito without Asuna/Inoda around.
 

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Sorry if it already was asked, but does Asuna have sex only with Inoda, or with other males too? (not counting Kirito)
 

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This is if he wants to finish the game on version 1.0, but no one is stopping him from finishing it on it. He can simply continue making versions 1.1, 1.2 or 1.5, 1.10, etc. And Fujino himself ignores these questions on ci-en and Patreon. And as for speeding up the plot, I don’t even know, he changed Sinon’s plot, gives a new role to Alice, promotes the relationship between Suguha and Kirito. Lets Liz take the initiative into her own hands, albeit for a short time. All this rather increases the amount of work than speeds it up. If we take Asuna, she still has 8 perks not unlocked, and many are only at level one, and there are those that evolve without showing their level.
And so if we take into account that our updates will last 3 days, there are 18 days left until version 1.0. In theory, of course, Asuna can be turned into a whore during this time, but given that events do not happen every day, much less important ones. And we can easily skip a day, say - "Kirito went to Fog after work, took a quest there, completed it and went to bed." So this is a debatable issue and everything depends on the point of view. Fujino decides in any case, so arguing about when the game ends does not make much sense.
From, what it seems Fujino will not finish the game at version 1.0. I would say that the versions number are more inline with the progression or the milestones reached with the story. I would say that Fujino is using the versions number as a way to set goals for himself and to represent the stage of the overarching events.

For me, it is clear that Fujino wants to be at a certain point with all the characters stories by 1.0 and from there to contextualize the endings for the game. As for the side character stories, I would say that their stories were changed because Fujino wanted to speed up their narrative flow, with the downside of increasing the work in terms of setup and CGs needed. To me, it seems that Fujino wanted to make the side characters stories fall more readily in place and form a more sequential flow of actions for them in the confines of the story.

I consider that Fujino feels the need to push the IRL events of Asuna and the stories of other characters forward in a more intentional manner due to dev time constraints and audience apathy. Fujino is not new to game developing, he knows that the more a project carries on the more the audience will get used to the story and increase the chances that the support for it will stagnate. In retrospective, this is one of the reasons this game got made, its previous games while relative popular and with a stable audience were not enough to keep the fire going and bring new audience and support.

In terms of popularity and support, growth is much easier to gather support and interest around a new project than around an old project, where it might be that the recurring support is stagnating as people feel like waiting for the ending to the story due to apathy towards the story.
 
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I think we all agree that irl sex between Inoda and Asuna is imminent. I mean, it can't be unpredictable when you know their relationship and the situation they are in.

"Kirito will watch Asuna being railed by Inoda on the camera feed set up in the hotel room" Will it awaken in him some kink with Suguha ? Like seeing them having sex and thinking Inoda is drilling his cousin might get to him in the next intimate scene he has with his own cousin ? For sure, he is clearly more aware of her physicial attributes for some updates now.

"Liz will get to have sex with Inoda and Kirito in FOG on the same day and get to compare both of them" Is that necessary ? She already compares them almost on a daily basis. And we know today that her wish is pretty much to have Inoda's dick attached to Kirito. And she had it going with Inoda's irl and with Kirito in FOG. Her true feelings towards Kirito is a bit foggy for me, but she has some type of love-hate feelings towards Inoda. I think she will probably fall further towards Inoda mainly for dick reasons but imo, Liz is a junction character, she will probably in some way get into conflict with either Asuna or Suguha.
Yes, Kirito might become more accustomed withe idea of incest if he sees Inoda bagging his "cousin" life on the feed. It will depend on how much the Kirito x Sugu story will be pushed for this new-found interest of Kirito to make sense.

Liz sees Kirito more as a prize, so lossing interest in Kirito is bound to happen to a certain degree. Liz sexual interactions with Kirito and Inoda were not completely intentional on both parties when they took place. Inoda had sex with Liz while she was still under the influence of drugs and not fully realizing that she's getting fucked by Inoda until it was too late. As for Kirito she had sex with him while Kirito consciousness was not in his body so she pretty much masturbated with Kirito body.

My premise is that Liz will be able to fully compare the two of them only after she gets to have sex intentionally with them and for all parties to be aware and put effort in it. Here Inoda has an advantage as he knows Liz better than Kirito and can use his experience and other plot devices to his advantage. Kirito is still morally bound by his relationship with Asuna while Inoda is more than wiling to get busy with almost everyone as longs he gets to keep Asuna.
 

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From, what it seems Fujino will not finish the game at version 1.0. I would say that the number of the version are more inline with the progression or the milestones reached with the story. I would say that Fujino is using the versions number as a way to set goals for himself and to represent the stage of the overarching events.

For me, it is clear that Fujino wants to be at a certain point with all the characters stories by 1.0 and from that to contextualize the endings for the game. As for the side character stories, I would say that their stories were changed because Fujino wanted to speed up their narrative flow, with the downside of increasing the work in terms of setup and CGs needed. To me, it seems that Fujino wanted to make the side characters stories fall more readily in place and form a more sequential flow of actions for them in the confines of the story.

I consider that Fujino feels the need to push the IRL events of Asuna and the stories of other characters forward in a more intentional manner due to dev time constraints and audience apathy. Fujino is not new to game developing, he knows that the more a project carries on the more the audience will get used to the story and increase the chances that the support for it will stagnate. In retrospective, this is one of the reasons this game got made, its previous games while relative popular and with a stable audience were not enough to keep the fire going and bring new audience and support.

In terms of popularity and support, growth is much easier to gather support and interest around a new project than around an old project, where it might be that the recurring support is stagnating as people feel like waiting for the ending to the story due to apathy towards the story.
Version number doesn't signify anything. Fujino just does the work to put as much content he can into a monthly release and then increase the version number by 0.05. Fujino has said he wants to finish the story by v1.0. Whether he can accomplish this is up for debate. But if he can't I am sure he will continue the game beyond v1.0 to finish it.

This is one of Fujino's weakness IMO. He has plans for how he wants his game to progress and has a monthly release schedule but he doesn't set goals for each release. This causes irregular amount of content releases which causes backlash from supporters. Of course he is a single developer who works a day job. Also life hits everyone with unexpected surprises. But I hope for his next game he plans out his releases so there would be less stress and surprises with each release. There are development methodologies like Scrum that can help with that.
 
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