RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[Kazuto123]

Again, I acknowledged it, that was my complaint, making OS canon made this scene stupid Also, YES, Johnny Black was a dangerous psycho and a murderer lmao, and Kirito was trying to protect Asuna in this bit, so realistically he would have had 0 compulsion in beating him senseless if he could...which he should given he was able to keep up with Eiji in Ordinal Scale when he was using a magical super suit that let him ricochet off walls faster than the eye could see and made him strong enough to casually break an adult man's arm without effort XD

I love SAO and actually like Kirito a lot, but I'm one of the few that never liked OS and think making it canon was stupid, Kazuto should have been on the ground defeated not even 30 seconds into his fight with Eiji IRL if the movie had had any realism XP (Doesn't help that poor Sugu, the only character that would have been able to have even a small realistic chance to take care of this, was basically written out of the movie's main plot EXCLUSIVELY so she wouldn't outshine Kirito and Asuna, which I found extra stupid after watching the Kirito vs. Eiji fight)

For me this movie wasn't stupid, it was even a canon movie after the "Mother's Rosario" arc and before "Alicization". The plot was nicely done, and the Augma technology looks realistic in real life (I'm talking about SAO). You know, it's a plot armor and that's why Kirito defeated Eiji and didn't defeat Johnn, because he didn't have Augma and a suit with him. Don't forget that Kirito has no experience in martial arts and self-defense, than in the VR game. The creators and Kawahara from OS had to send Sugu to the Kendo Fighting Games (sorry, I'm not interested in sports, so I don't know what it's called exactly), because she's stronger than Kirito and Asuna. If Suguha hadn't gone to the Kendo Fighting Games, she might have defeated Eiji. I'm not surprised, the fights are not balanced, I'm sure you've watched Naruto, so you've seen such differences in balancing the strength of the characters. For example, Naruto defeated Nagato, he became furious because Hinata was injured, but if it wasn't for Hinata and under the influence of Kurama's fury, he would have died. And would you be happy if Suguha fought Eiji in the supersuit and Augma, instead of Kirito? Eiji is 20 years old in the OS movie, so he is a year older than Asuna and two years older than Kirito. But I understand, you may not like it and I do, and it was especially beautiful to show Kirito and Asuna's date, and to show Asuna in the bathtub. You could even see Asuna's nipples in the OS movie and the scene where Kirito cuddled up to Asuna on her breasts
Rating 8

 

[senpa24]

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[Aniky Light]

what NTR means in Japan, remains in Japan

 

[mos555]

what NTR means in Japan, remains in Japan

For me this movie wasn't stupid, it was even a canon movie after the "Mother's Rosario" arc and before "Alicization". The plot was nicely done, and the Augma technology looks realistic in real life (I'm talking about SAO). You know, it's a plot armor and that's why Kirito defeated Eiji and didn't defeat Johnn, because he didn't have Augma and a suit with him. Don't forget that Kirito has no experience in martial arts and self-defense, than in the VR game. The creators and Kawahara from OS had to send Sugu to the Kendo Fighting Games (sorry, I'm not interested in sports, so I don't know what it's called exactly), because she's stronger than Kirito and Asuna. If Suguha hadn't gone to the Kendo Fighting Games, she might have defeated Eiji. I'm not surprised, the fights are not balanced, I'm sure you've watched Naruto, so you've seen such differences in balancing the strength of the characters. For example, Naruto defeated Nagato, he became furious because Hinata was injured, but if it wasn't for Hinata and under the influence of Kurama's fury, he would have died. And would you be happy if Suguha fought Eiji in the supersuit and Augma, instead of Kirito? Eiji is 20 years old in the OS movie, so he is a year older than Asuna and two years older than Kirito. But I understand, you may not like it and I do, and it was especially beautiful to show Kirito and Asuna's date, and to show Asuna in the bathtub. You could even see Asuna's nipples in the OS movie and the scene where Kirito cuddled up to Asuna on her breasts
Rating 8

Excellent review. But I think it's worth raising the score by one point for Asuna's nipples. 9 and no less.

 

[Razelfark]

For me this movie wasn't stupid, it was even a canon movie after the "Mother's Rosario" arc and before "Alicization". The plot was nicely done, and the Augma technology looks realistic in real life (I'm talking about SAO). You know, it's a plot armor and that's why Kirito defeated Eiji and didn't defeat Johnn, because he didn't have Augma and a suit with him. Don't forget that Kirito has no experience in martial arts and self-defense, than in the VR game. The creators and Kawahara from OS had to send Sugu to the Kendo Fighting Games (sorry, I'm not interested in sports, so I don't know what it's called exactly), because she's stronger than Kirito and Asuna. If Suguha hadn't gone to the Kendo Fighting Games, she might have defeated Eiji. I'm not surprised, the fights are not balanced, I'm sure you've watched Naruto, so you've seen such differences in balancing the strength of the characters. For example, Naruto defeated Nagato, he became furious because Hinata was injured, but if it wasn't for Hinata and under the influence of Kurama's fury, he would have died. And would you be happy if Suguha fought Eiji in the supersuit and Augma, instead of Kirito? Eiji is 20 years old in the OS movie, so he is a year older than Asuna and two years older than Kirito. But I understand, you may not like it and I do, and it was especially beautiful to show Kirito and Asuna's date, and to show Asuna in the bathtub. You could even see Asuna's nipples in the OS movie and the scene where Kirito cuddled up to Asuna on her breasts
Rating 8

I missed the movie till you mentioned it and just watched it real quick. The only thing that seemed a bit off to this AR style story was how they had the main villain fight. Since the AR version means you are fighting with your body, they did a decent job early on with the people getting hit just having their bodies transform out of their fighting form when they take a lethal hit and looked good. The 2 issues I had with this detail was they started to lose that sense of feel and had people getting physically pushed around by effective holograms, and the second issue is how overly mobile they made the clash with Kirito and the main villain. I do understand what was giving the villain a mobility bonus, but the bouncing off walls scene was a little over the top for people fighting IRL. Overall the story does follow a lot of the story beats very well for SAO and was an entertaining watch. Would recommend for fans of SAO.

 

[Kazuto123]

I missed the movie till you mentioned it and just watched it real quick. The only thing that seemed a bit off to this AR style story was how they had the main villain fight. Since the AR version means you are fighting with your body, they did a decent job early on with the people getting hit just having their bodies transform out of their fighting form when they take a lethal hit and looked good. The 2 issues I had with this detail was they started to lose that sense of feel and had people getting physically pushed around by effective holograms, and the second issue is how overly mobile they made the clash with Kirito and the main villain. I do understand what was giving the villain a mobility bonus, but the bouncing off walls scene was a little over the top for people fighting IRL. Overall the story does follow a lot of the story beats very well for SAO and was an entertaining watch. Would recommend for fans of SAO.

Then watch the whole movie, then you will understand because if you don't watch the whole movie then you will understand less of the plot, the behavior of the characters. Maybe bouncing off the wall was a bit exaggerated, but nicely done and the fight was well done. I recommend you read the LN because it is better than the anime SAO, for example the anime cut out a lot of scenes, monologues, chapters from volume 3, 4, 5, 6. 16-18.
I have been a SAO fan since 2018, I have LN 24 volumes, LN Progressive 3 volumes.

 

[kinglionheart]

I missed the movie till you mentioned it and just watched it real quick. The only thing that seemed a bit off to this AR style story was how they had the main villain fight. Since the AR version means you are fighting with your body, they did a decent job early on with the people getting hit just having their bodies transform out of their fighting form when they take a lethal hit and looked good. The 2 issues I had with this detail was they started to lose that sense of feel and had people getting physically pushed around by effective holograms, and the second issue is how overly mobile they made the clash with Kirito and the main villain. I do understand what was giving the villain a mobility bonus, but the bouncing off walls scene was a little over the top for people fighting IRL. Overall the story does follow a lot of the story beats very well for SAO and was an entertaining watch. Would recommend for fans of SAO.

The reason the villain, Eiji, was able to do those amazing physical feats was because of the Exo-suit he is wearing. Only when that was disabled was Kirito able to win. But yea since most of the movie was set IRL and everyone was using their real bodies, everyone only could do what their normal bodies can do and was limited without outside help. That was the reason Suguha was sidelined for most of the movie. Her physical prowess would have ended the villain right away according to the author. She only appeared back after they moved the fight to VR.

 

[mos555]

Then watch the whole movie, then you will understand because if you don't watch the whole movie then you will understand less of the plot, the behavior of the characters. Maybe bouncing off the wall was a bit exaggerated, but nicely done and the fight was well done. I recommend you read the LN because it is better than the anime SAO, for example the anime cut out a lot of scenes, monologues, chapters from volume 3, 4, 5, 6. 16-18.
I have been a SAO fan since 2018, I have LN 24 volumes, LN Progressive 3 volumes.

It is especially annoying that the entire additional chapter 16.5, volume 1 of the novella was cut out of the anime. I hope the anime director is ashamed of this.

I came across SAO sometime in 2004, when I came across the first volume of SAO translated into English, then I found out that it was a competition paper from Kawahara Reki and there were 4 volumes in total, but I found only 2 in English. So when the reissue came out in 2009, I immediately started buying everything as soon as it was released in English. I even bought a manga. Of course, there are a lot of things missing from the anime, but I watched it just as a visual addition to the novel. Although, it's worth saying that visual information is better remembered, so I remember anime moments better than book moments. Sometimes it occurs to me that I'm getting too old for this shit. It's good that there are still people who carry the SAO banner.

 

[SandmanLain]

Lowkey should next fujino game be a parody or original?, and if parody what anime do yall recom?

 

[Kazuto123]

It is especially annoying that the entire additional chapter 16.5, volume 1 of the novella was cut out of the anime. I hope the anime director is ashamed of this.
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I came across SAO sometime in 2004, when I came across the first volume of SAO translated into English, then I found out that it was a competition paper from Kawahara Reki and there were 4 volumes in total, but I found only 2 in English. So when the reissue came out in 2009, I immediately started buying everything as soon as it was released in English. I even bought a manga. Of course, there are a lot of things missing from the anime, but I watched it just as a visual addition to the novel. Although, it's worth saying that visual information is better remembered, so I remember anime moments better than book moments. Sometimes it occurs to me that I'm getting too old for this shit. It's good that there are still people who carry the SAO banner.
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Chapter 16.5 was not written in LN volume 1 Aincrad, it is fan-made and not canonical and the author wrote it on the wattpad and fanfiction website. In my country, Poland, only SAO LNs are released, when it comes to SAO manga, they are not published and are not canonical because they are written by different authors. Don't make up that in LN volume 1 there was chapter 16.5, it was written on a fan site. Are you still reading LN? I started reading LN SAO in 2019, from volume 15-18 and then in order. I don't have to mention it again, I am a fan of Kirito and the KiritoxAsuna couple. I am 27 years old and I like reading manga, LN and I read manga on the mangaplus/mangadex website.

 

[mos555]

Chapter 16.5 was not written in LN volume 1 Aincrad, it is fan-made and not canonical and the author wrote it on the wattpad and fanfiction website. In my country, Poland, only SAO LNs are released, when it comes to SAO manga, they are not published and are not canonical because they are written by different authors. Don't make up that in LN volume 1 there was chapter 16.5, it was written on a fan site. Are you still reading LN? I started reading LN SAO in 2019, from volume 15-18 and then in order. I don't have to mention it again, I am a fan of Kirito and the KiritoxAsuna couple. I am 27 years old and I like reading manga, LN and I read manga on the mangaplus/mangadex website.

This chapter was not fan-made. This text is written by Reki Kawahara and is chronologically located in the middle of chapter 16, the First Volume of SAO, but due to the nature of the content, it is only an additional story. This story was in the WEB version of ranobe. Some fans insisted that this chapter be included in the official reissue, but the editors refused because it would dramatically raise the book's rating to 17+, which was not part of the plans to maximize audience coverage.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

The reason the villain, Eiji, was able to do those amazing physical feats was because of the Exo-suit he is wearing. Only when that was disabled was Kirito able to win. But yea since most of the movie was set IRL and everyone was using their real bodies, everyone only could do what their normal bodies can do and was limited without outside help. That was the reason Suguha was sidelined for most of the movie. Her physical prowess would have ended the villain right away according to the author. She only appeared back after they moved the fight to VR.

Eiji's magical exo-suit is one of the biggest reasons the movie is so stupidly unrealistic tbh, and what also made the author's 'excuse' about Sugu feel extra-dumb XD Some people made the actual calculations online using that kinda crazy math you only see in shows like Death Battle, and if Eiji's suit that was basically made of flimsy latex and a few wires (Because Kazuto, I have fuck-shit-strenght, Kirigaya, was able to tear it apart with one hand) really could make him that superhuman, he had basically become a street-tier Marvel Supervillain with it...there shouldn't have been any "fight", Eiji should have bounced off a wall, kicked Kazuto's head in, and the bad guys won immediately, because he was THAT much inhumanly faster and stronger to the point the 'ranking' they had in the movie shouldn't have mattered (And even before taking into account that before this fight Kirito had been fighting SAO bosses IRL non-stop for a couple hours at least, aka Mr. almost no IRL Stamina who 2 days before this was stumbling over his own feet trying to pull off movements he could in SAO on the real world, and that his so-called 'training' wouldn't fix in 48 fucking hours, he should have arrived to that fight out of breath and sweating like crazy already rather than fresh and serious XP).

BTW, this also meant that, for the statement of the author about Suguha to be true, she should be IRL as strong and fast as a non-serious Spider-man to be able to pull the shit that would be "end Eiji with his super suit right away"

Honestly, the only dumbest thing in the movie that Kirito vs. Eiji was Asuna so casually being able to be perfect fighting IRL like she is in VR, despite canonically not practicing any sports or anything that would suggest she has the physical prowess to pull off all those moves, but then again the entire movie was designed to glaze her and KiriSuna in general while sidelining everyone else (ESPECIALLY the heroine that would have shone the most in its setting, aka Sugu, to the point of writing her out of the main plot) so that wasn't as surprising

This chapter was not fan-made. This text is written by Reki Kawahara and is chronologically located in the middle of chapter 16, the First Volume of SAO, but due to the nature of the content, it is only an additional story. This story was in the WEB version of ranobe. Some fans insisted that this chapter be included in the official reissue, but the editors refused because it would dramatically raise the book's rating to 17+, which was not part of the plans to maximize audience coverage.

As an extra-thing, though, the chapter was basically declared non-canon (It was Reki's first attempt at writing smut and it shows, is infamously 'popular' for being kinda shitty written in that aspect XD). Mind you, Kirito and Asuna DID have sex like rabbits in their honeymoon, but it was all offscreen and just implied just for that There is a ton of content that was changed/retconned/cut off from the original web novel when adapted to the Light Novel that is now considered non-canon, from section of events to how characters interacted. Hell, there was even a non-canon Harem Ending achieved with Asuna's approval ("There is But One Ultimate Way") that took place after Alicization in the web novel, which hilariously even the author had to clarify was non-canon because it made a lot of 'pure' (Aka KiriSuna) fans angry

 

[Kazuto123]

This chapter was not fan-made. This text is written by Reki Kawahara and is chronologically located in the middle of chapter 16, the First Volume of SAO, but due to the nature of the content, it is only an additional story. This story was in the WEB version of ranobe. Some fans insisted that this chapter be included in the official reissue, but the editors refused because it would dramatically raise the book's rating to 17+, which was not part of the plans to maximize audience coverage.

I understand. Unfortunately, when I started watching SAO in 2019 and reading the LN, I didn't read the web novel. Of course, I read interesting facts comparing the web novel to the LN on the fandom wiki.

 

[Kraos]

This is pretty much just wrong, and why you shouldn't rely on dictionary definitions of words in order to define an entire genre of porn.

In Japan, NTR is used to describe pretty much any situation where you're supposed to feel jealousy over someone else fucking (and stealing away) someone you love. Romantic interest does NOT need to be reciprocated for it to invoke NTR. There are like, "sub" definitions where you might need them to be in a relationship already, such as NTRS (hard to give away something you don't already have), but NTR is a very large umbrella term for a lot of different scenarios.

Also have you read much momNTR stuff? The point of it typically isn't "someone you could be fucking is getting taken away" it's literally "your loving mother is getting her back blown out so hard she forgets to take care of you anymore". You can have more than just sexual partners stolen from you, and there are more types of love than just carnal or romantic (platonic, filial, etc.) to be exploited, corrupted, and/or broken.

Yeah, MC feelings are important in this. If he likes it, it can be NTS. Hates it, NTR. If we don't get the perspective of the person being cheated on, it is just cheating.

The only real debate is if forced sex should be considered as NTR especially if the victim never gets stockholm syndrome.

 

[SenZu17]

One of the best NTR game I've ever played, I'm a big fan of SAO and I really appreciate this work by Fujino, looking forward to the next updates. I feel bad for you, little Kirito haha

 

[stupid_army]

NTR is when your beloved girlfriend, fiancée, or wife is stolen from you, either directly or indirectly.

NTR IS NOT:
1. When your mother or sister is taken away from you, they don't belong to you; they're your family, whether by blood or not. And if you liked them, you're an idiot for staying silent.
2. When a classmate or coworker is taken away from you, she doesn't belong to you either. If you liked her, you're still an idiot for not saying anything.
3. When your childhood friend is taken away from you, the fact that you promised each other that you'd get married as children is no guarantee, even if you do nothing, someone else will have sex with her.

1) Wrong, like i said before on another thread. In Japan Mom and sister NTR is popular, heck in 2chan almost every week Mom NTR thread were created.
2) The fact that you don't know about BSS genre telling how little your knowledge about this genre


Netorare is Japanese, you are not Japanese. Don't force foreign languange with your own definition. If you just search "
母NTR" on google you could find lots of works with this sub-genre.

 

[Gu Changge]

I personally dont think anyone really likes NTR, its the corruption behind NTR what makes it so apealling, like if you think about it, NTR per se is just fucking mentally painful, but seeing the corruption its the allure

 

[kinglionheart]

I just realized this is about the time for the normal monthly update. I don't know about the rest of you but April just seems to fly by for me. Maybe it is Q&A keeping me entertained or knowing April won't have a update but it doesn't feel that long ago v0.80 was released. Weird!

 

[TheAiBoy]

By the way, how many scenes would be missed if i only watch from the collection room? Thanks

 

[Gu Changge]

By the way, how many scenes would be missed if i only watch from the collection room? Thanks

Hmmmmm i think you would miss plenty of content, there is really good scenes that are not in the recollection room