RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[mos555]

Honestly, at this point, the only way I could be surprised by the endings is if Fujino decides to make a 'happy' ending (and by doing so, make the ending more about overcoming NTR than about the stereotypical stuff), where Imoda is out of the picture and Kirito and Asuna manage to fix their relationship somehow (just the two of them or with other characters). Otherwise, I feel it's most likely going just variants of the same thing, with just the degree of depressing stuff varying...

All right. Most modern NTR games don't give you much choice in the endings. The author can create a game and boast "there are 4 endings in my game", and in the end the player will get -

defeat option 1 - a whore for the village mayor,
defeat option 2 - a whore for the son of the village mayor,
defeat option 3 - a whore for the whole village,
neutral option 4 - was a whore, but came to her senses, but a MC doesn't know anything.

"Good" endings (meaning not the endings in which the game takes place in half an hour and with one choice at the beginning - "don't show boobs to the mayor of the village")- revenge, payback, and separation in favor of the main character are rare diamonds in the tons of NTR industry shit. When you have 2 radically different options to play through, the replay value increases, for many people who have chosen one ending, for example, "the whore wins", it will almost always be interesting to look at the ending "punishment of the whore". Such games always remain in the memory.

But the main question you should ask yourself - whether Fujino wants to do something like this at all?

Perhaps his choice is a completely clipped, hackneyed ending. Just to finish the game and forget about it like a bad dream. The aspect of variation is completely absent from Fujino's game, so there is a high probability that the endings of SAO will have minimal variety. And there's no need to talk about revenge.

Only if a rich sheikh throws a wad of dollars at him and demands to make "Kirito great again".

 

[mos555]

Isn't Inoda unironically the most relatable guy to you weebs? Saying no one can love him is a harsh personal attack, no?

Fujino took the easiest path possible and created an "NTR bully" with the most antagonistic features in contrast to Kirito. Kirito is in good physical shape - Inoda is fat, Kirito is kind and sympathetic - Inoda is an evil psychopath, Kirito is bad at sex - Inoda is good at sex, Kirito always respects women - Inoda is a rapist. Fujino chose the laziest and most cliched character possible. There are some games in which the "NTR bully" is not initially a bully, but develops his character traits precisely because of the influence of a cheating woman, but such games are rare.

And if you take all the character traits of Inoda together, then I don't understand how anyone can like this animal at all. It's like being a fan of Ted Bundy or Patrick Bateman from "American Psycho". I can officially declare it, and it won't even be just my opinion - everyone who likes Inoda, should be checked by a psychologist.(Yes, and you, Fujino, if you're reading this, go to a psychologist too).

Even if you're also a fat loser and you see Inoda as your hero, it's better to think about what's wrong with you rather than looking for a role model where there obviously isn't one.

 

[Aniky Light]

Fujino took the easiest path possible and created an "NTR bully" with the most antagonistic features in contrast to Kirito. Kirito is in good physical shape - Inoda is fat, Kirito is kind and sympathetic - Inoda is an evil psychopath, Kirito is bad at sex - Inoda is good at sex, Kirito always respects women - Inoda is a rapist. Fujino chose the laziest and most cliched character possible. There are some games in which the "NTR bully" is not initially a bully, but develops his character traits precisely because of the influence of a cheating woman, but such games are rare.

And if you take all the character traits of Inoda together, then I don't understand how anyone can like this animal at all. It's like being a fan of Ted Bundy or Patrick Bateman from "American Psycho". I can officially declare it, and it won't even be just my opinion - everyone who likes Inoda, should be checked by a psychologist.(Yes, and you, Fujino, if you're reading this, go to a psychologist too).

Even if you're also a fat loser and you see Inoda as your hero, it's better to think about what's wrong with you rather than looking for a role model where there obviously isn't one.

We can't know if Fujino is fat

 

[Urgot Main Urgot]

Well Asuna has mixed feelings about what happened. She didn't want it to happen but didn't physically resist either. But rape is just sex without consent and Asuna definitely did not give her consent so it is rape legally. Making her cum does not mean she gave consent retroactively. Asuna might not think it was rape but if police find out Inoda would get in trouble. So it was good bluff on Inoda's part to get Asuna's sympathies.


If only Kirito's BBC dream was real then we could answer that question.
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But Fujino won't give Inoda that kind of challenge!

Maybe this is canon in the other route in Part 1 where you reject Inoda at the beginning to join the group, then there's Hebishima who might approach you.

Maybe it won't happen, maybe in the near future, so we can see what happens with that route, haha.

 

[Elyngas]

All right. Most modern NTR games don't give you much choice in the endings. The author can create a game and boast "there are 4 endings in my game", and in the end the player will get -

defeat option 1 - a whore for the village mayor,
defeat option 2 - a whore for the son of the village mayor,
defeat option 3 - a whore for the whole village,
neutral option 4 - was a whore, but came to her senses, but a MC doesn't know anything.

"Good" endings (meaning not the endings in which the game takes place in half an hour and with one choice at the beginning - "don't show boobs to the mayor of the village")- revenge, payback, and separation in favor of the main character are rare diamonds in the tons of NTR industry shit. When you have 2 radically different options to play through, the replay value increases, for many people who have chosen one ending, for example, "the whore wins", it will almost always be interesting to look at the ending "punishment of the whore". Such games always remain in the memory.

But the main question you should ask yourself - whether Fujino wants to do something like this at all?

Perhaps his choice is a completely clipped, hackneyed ending. Just to finish the game and forget about it like a bad dream. The aspect of variation is completely absent from Fujino's game, so there is a high probability that the endings of SAO will have minimal variety. And there's no need to talk about revenge.

Only if a rich sheikh throws a wad of dollars at him and demands to make "Kirito great again".
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I understand that, which is why I'm already prepared for those usual endings. I just thought it could be interesting to make things a bit differently, as unlikely as it is :/

 

[mos555]

We can't know if Fujino is fat

No, we can't. But Fujino has already said that he likes the Inoda character he created. I think no one will deny that authors often immerse themselves in the characters they create, and this often leads to a distorted perception. But it sounds a bit hypocritical from Fujino - Inoda is an extremely cliched and common type of character. It seems to me that the specific image of Inoda was stolen from Scars of Summer. So when Fujino says - "I like Inoda," he means - "I like my absolutely boring and flawed character".... Which sounds a little weird.

 

[Aniky Light]

No, we can't. But Fujino has already said that he likes the Inoda character he created. I think no one will deny that authors often immerse themselves in the characters they create, and this often leads to a distorted perception. But it sounds a bit hypocritical from Fujino - Inoda is an extremely cliched and common type of character. It seems to me that the specific image of Inoda was stolen from Scars of Summer. So when Fujino says - "I like Inoda," he means - "I like my absolutely boring and flawed character".... Which sounds a little weird.

Boring and flawed like the game itself, boring because it has lost its NTR magic, there is no tension or suspense. Sometimes it feels like Fujino is bragging about his character and looking down on us down below, as if you challenged us by creating Kirito a limp faggot and Inoda a universal god, but if we look at reality, Inoda is just a fried fart

 

[jahjahcruel]

Hello does anyone know where I can find the 2 additional CG's in the recollection room?

 

[cp2020]

I came across this idea proposed on the Chinese forum about a suggested ending, which sounds interesting.

The basic structure is:

Inoda dies in the real world but his spirit/soul/brain data is uploaded to FOG. Asuna returns to her normal life with Kirito in real life but continues to have sex with Inoda in FOG behind Kirito's back.

It's interesting, because this basic structure can be expanded to many different directions. For example:

Route 1:

Inoda is revenged to die so Kirito is relieved. He believes he doesn't have to worry about Inoda anymore but Inoda still exists in FOG. Asuna continues to cheat and Kirito doesn't know about it.

Route 2:

Inoda sacrifies himself (not necessarily in a personally willing way) and dies. Kirito helps Inoda to upload his data on FOG so Inoda can still live in the game world. Kirito completely trusts Inoda due to his sacrifice, but he doesn't know that Inoda and Asuna are cheating in FOG.

Or Kirito allows Asuna to have sex with Inoda in game because (1) Kirito turns into a cuck and enjoys it, (2) Kirito feels guilty for Inoda's sacrifice, (3) Kirito thinks that it's just game so Asuna's cheating in FOG doesn't really matter, or (4) Kirito also cheats with Sugu, Sinon, and Alice.

An ending like this can create a lot of twists (which Fujino seems to like) and may satisfy both sides:

Some people want to see Inoda suffer, so now he dies;

Some people wait for a completely corrupted ending, so now Asuna continues to fall in FOG.

After all, this game is about SAO, or a virtual game world. With Inoda continuing to live in FOG, now this game gets back to its original context.

It may also raise a philosophical question: If there is a virtual world so real, is virtual cheating still cheating? Or is it just fantasy like an erotic dream?

 

[Razelfark]

If you say there aren't many NTR games with good endings, it's because you haven't looked for them. Don't make me make a long list like Inoda's dick of NTR games with good endings or in-between endings xD. NTRs with happy endings
There are, of course, but few people play them, and then, I say, if someone doesn't like NTRs with happy endings, then play them so they get to the bad ending. The problem is, if someone plays NTRs with bad endings, then they're convinced that all NTR games are like that.
NTRs with happy endings have a positive side: once you finish with the happy ending, you're curious to see the other dark side of the game and you play again. Obviously, if someone is looking for the path to a happy ending, there's little content in NTR, but then, what's the problem if you can always replay it?

I think the person is referring to there being a large number of games designed to tell story where there are no "good" endings, not that you can't have a story designed to have a good ending. Most stories that are focused on the NTR angle don't give a happy ending, but on rare occasions will offer a route for one. These stories are nice to play through as you have mentioned as they give more freedom to the player and have a nice amount of writing for their stories. Usually "Good" endings for games with NTR in them come from this being a subplot or they are games where people complain there is no content because the content was designed around the NTR.
I am a fan of the NTR genre that does have the ability to prevent the NTR like the games where you can interrupt the persons attempts on the girl you are chasing. But the stories about the descent into corruption also can make for interesting stories and that is what this story is about. The stories where the person falls into depravity is always hard to write out for the character if you give them choices as this could break the story progression of the author easily, so I accept that a number of them are railroaded stories. I do prefer them when they can branch out more as they can lead to more replay ability.

 

[Razelfark]

It may also raise a philosophical question: If there is a virtual world so real, is virtual cheating still cheating? Or is it just fantasy like an erotic dream?

This is not as philosophical as you really think it is. The answer is simply yes. If you meet up with someone else for an immoral meetup it would be considered cheating, even digitally. A great example of this is past cases of cybersex cheating lawsuits where people have been taken to court for their infidelity.

 

[QuiteQuiet]

This is not as philosophical as you really think it is. The answer is simply yes. If you meet up with someone else for an immoral meetup it would be considered cheating, even digitally. A great example of this is past cases of cybersex cheating lawsuits where people have been taken to court for their infidelity.

Some people say that even looking at porn is considered cheating. Basically, any form of desire of someone but your partner can be classified as cheating

 

[ShadowRev]

Where is part 1's normal translation? I am only seeing saikey translation option.

 

[xibxiprect]

Guys, do you think this game will be finished at version 1.0 or will it continue to version 1.5 or 1.8 and so on ?

 

[Dfour]

Just finished part 1. I usually hate 3D illusion like games but this one daaaamn, the story was hella good

 

[saitamaTM]

maybe kirito still have suguha and sinon but asuna and liz leave him so nothing is good ending kirito still losing people he love

 

[Lurker600]

I came across this idea proposed on the Chinese forum about a suggested ending, which sounds interesting.

The basic structure is:

Inoda dies in the real world but his spirit/soul/brain data is uploaded to FOG. Asuna returns to her normal life with Kirito in real life but continues to have sex with Inoda in FOG behind Kirito's back.

It's interesting, because this basic structure can be expanded to many different directions. For example:

Route 1:

Inoda is revenged to die so Kirito is relieved. He believes he doesn't have to worry about Inoda anymore but Inoda still exists in FOG. Asuna continues to cheat and Kirito doesn't know about it.

Route 2:

Inoda sacrifies himself (not necessarily in a personally willing way) and dies. Kirito helps Inoda to upload his data on FOG so Inoda can still live in the game world. Kirito completely trusts Inoda due to his sacrifice, but he doesn't know that Inoda and Asuna are cheating in FOG.

Or Kirito allows Asuna to have sex with Inoda in game because (1) Kirito turns into a cuck and enjoys it, (2) Kirito feels guilty for Inoda's sacrifice, (3) Kirito thinks that it's just game so Asuna's cheating in FOG doesn't really matter, or (4) Kirito also cheats with Sugu, Sinon, and Alice.

An ending like this can create a lot of twists (which Fujino seems to like) and may satisfy both sides:

Some people want to see Inoda suffer, so now he dies;

Some people wait for a completely corrupted ending, so now Asuna continues to fall in FOG.

After all, this game is about SAO, or a virtual game world. With Inoda continuing to live in FOG, now this game gets back to its original context.

It may also raise a philosophical question: If there is a virtual world so real, is virtual cheating still cheating? Or is it just fantasy like an erotic dream?

Pretty good ending all things considered but where's Asuna's punishment? She got fucked good in-game and have loving bf IRL? Nah

And of course it is cheating, that question almost sound like Asuna's thought in-game lol, there's a big difference between light flirting and maybe playing couple in game to whatever Asuna/Inoda/Kirito/Liz is doing.

Also unpopular opinion:
I don't really care for the ending, I wouldn't even mind if this game turn into episodic '101 ways Inoda fuck Asuna in quarantine '

 

[Aniky Light]

Guys, do you think this game will be finished at version 1.0 or will it continue to version 1.5 or 1.8 and so on ?

Fujino said it could surpass version 1.0

 

[Aniky Light]

maybe kirito still have suguha and sinon but asuna and liz leave him so nothing is good ending kirito still losing people he love

regarding Liz, it's not clear what her feelings are towards Kirito, so I'm not surprised if she ends up with Inoda, regarding Asuna, well, for me she has already left Kirito

 

[13Gatsu777]

regarding Liz, it's not clear what her feelings are towards Kirito, so I'm not surprised if she ends up with Inoda, regarding Asuna, well, for me she has already left Kirito

The game kinda miss a status menu for the other girls i guess like in some of Fujino other game where you could see a brief description of the other girl