RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[SixDates]

If I remember correctly, there wasn't even a plan for a cuckold ending initially, but it seems a bunch of fans wanted it, so Fujino decided to add it, so yeah.

I do wonder how will Fujino decide to add the branching paths, because while I'm sure it will be short, I still not sure how short.

Will it be just the endings themselves with a final choice leading to seeing different final events? Or will the branching be longer, with cuck Kirito seeing different scenes than regular Kirito for an update or two?

It is a bit intriguing since Fujino has never done a branching game before, so we can't really guess what he will do.

 

[4-kun]

I do wonder how will Fujino decide to add the branching paths, because while I'm sure it will be short, I still not sure how short.

Will it be just the endings themselves with a final choice leading to seeing different final events? Or will the branching be longer, with cuck Kirito seeing different scenes than regular Kirito for an update or two?

It is a bit intriguing since Fujino has never done a branching game before, so we can't really guess what he will do.

There was a long discussion about it some time ago, and a short one recently too. In short, only endings.

 

[SixDates]

There was a long discussion about it some time ago, and a short one recently too. In short, only endings.

I did see the short one, since I was lurking at the time, but I don’t think anyone got an answer out of Fujino himself yet, right?

In the end I do agree with the general sentiment that endings only are more likely, that being said Fujino might try to put some variety to his lewd events with some choices. After all, that was the entire point of the Perversion/ Anxiety bars that he introduced in this second part. With some choices being locked to the cuck path.
(Although, having said that, he could always decide to drop them and I wouldn't be too surprised.)

 

[4-kun]

I did see the short one, since I was lurking at the time, but I don’t think anyone got an answer out of Fujino himself yet, right?

In the end I do agree with the general sentiment that endings only are more likely, that being said Fujino might try to put some variety to his lewd events with some choices. After all, that was the entire point of the Perversion/ Anxiety bars that he introduced in this second part. With some choices being locked to the cuck path.
(Although, having said that, he could always decide to drop them and I wouldn't be too surprised.)

Well, I think the most convincing argument would be that doing separate events for different paths is risky and time-consuming, resulting in smaller individual parts of the game, which could upset parts of the audience that are not interested in one of the two endings. But there are also many other reasons, like spoilers from the perk list etc. It's just honestly also a real pain in the ass to do separate paths from coding perspective.

 

[kinglionheart]

It is times like this I wished there was a Discord channel for Fujino. These kinds of long discussions belong there not on a forum.

Speaking as someone who is one main of culprits of the problem.

 

[gaka200]

I'm not as interested in the endings, since they're all just some variation of NTR. Which might be why Fujino also might have briefly mentioned the generalized idea of the ending. If the end result is Kirito knowing, or not knowing, then it doesn't really change the overall goal or path that Fujino wants the story to go.

I don't remember if Fujino gave more details, but it seems vague enough that I don't have to worry about feeling bummed out knowing ahead of time.

 

[4-kun]

I would like to believe it is not difficult in coding that is the problem. Other games had branching paths and Fujino is a good developer so he can do it too.

The reason for the length of the ending is how long Fujino wants to milk the game. Once we get to the ending there is nothing left except hot sex scenes each ending can offer. We all have ideas on what we want to see in each ending but those scenes can be released outside the game like the bonus scenes from Part 1.

He has been working on this games for years now. He could just be finish the necessary parts of the game and then go work on something else. Then release bonus scenes for the game as he wants.

Yeah, it kinda depends on what you do. If you're essentially just changing dialogue and scenes but keeping the core path identical, then yeah, it's pretty much just copy and paste. However, if you introduce significant branching paths, it can effectively create two distinct games within one installment, which can be problematic for a solo developer to deliver big enough monthly updates.

 

[SixDates]

It's not just the monthly content releases that would be an issue, Fujino may be good at many things, but releasing stable updates without game breaking bugs is not one of them.
The game is already held up by prayer most of the time with a singular path that is somewhat linear, I can’t imagine what would happen if Fujino started doing branching paths with separate content each update.

 

[Jackie123]

Is there an unlockable gallery or might anyone share a save file?

 

[SixDates]

Is there an unlockable gallery or might anyone share a save file?

I´m too lazy to upload my own, here it´s the save from someone´s else

There you go, it has around 3000 anxiety to unlock all scenes


edit: I put my global save to evade errors.

 

[saitamaTM]

only 6 day left for new update can't wait

 

[albakr0ss]

I think the main issue with branching paths it’s just that you end up splitting the audience into those who like 1 and 2. Then eventually you realize you can’t ever develop parts 1 and 2 together so you end up doing part 1 first till the end. Then only making a smaller part 2 with a linear timeline because nothing you make in 2 is going to be “that” significantly different from part1. So in a certain way it kind of halves the audience and I don’t know for a simple porn game can’t see why it’d make sense to do it.

 

[SixDates]

I think that the most logical and efficient way to make a branching game with the tools Fujino has, would be to make a single path of sexual events viewed with different perspectives.

What do I mean by that?

The not-cuckold Kirito goes through his daily life as he does now, only catching glimpses and tid bits of the sexual depravity that goes around him, and in the cuckold route Fujino uses the same scenes, but we get to see them through Kirito spying on Inoda and his thoughts about it.
Essentially, instead of going to the recollection room to see the sex scenes through inoda's and Asuna's PoV, we also get them in a voyeuristic style with Kirito jerking his little D.

I know that everyone would prefer that got more events in each path/ending, but I just don't think Fujino can manage with his currently japanese salaryman lifestyle.

 

[4-kun]

I think that the most logical and efficient way to make a branching game with the tools Fujino has, would be to make a single path of sexual events viewed with different perspectives.

What do I mean by that?

The not-cuckold Kirito goes through his daily life as he does now, only catching glimpses and tid bits of the sexual depravity that goes around him, and in the cuckold route Fujino uses the same scenes, but we get to see them through Kirito spying on Inoda and his thoughts about it.
Essentially, instead of going to the recollection room to see the sex scenes through inoda's and Asuna's PoV, we also get them in a voyeuristic style with Kirito jerking his little D.

I know that everyone would prefer that got more events in each path/ending, but I just don't think Fujino can manage with his currently japanese salaryman lifestyle.

I mean, it is possible, but there is still the issue with monthly updates. He would be forced to create separate saves for each update, dealing with two branches. This would mean doubling the time spent testing each of them for every update. So, realistically, most of us are probably fine with just having different endings, so it's just not worth the effort.

 

[NiktoAzure]

I think it's a weak choice simply because the MC doesn't chase any of the girls and it's not really romantic at all. I'd rather see MC get NTR'd who "deserve" it for all the will they won't they relationship shit authors like to pull. Second place is destroying a "good" relationship like with asuna/kirito.

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

 

[saitamaTM]

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

mushoku tensei is good for ntr game, nagatoro is weird for me

 

[SixDates]

I mean, it is possible, but there is still the issue with monthly updates. He would be forced to create separate saves for each update, dealing with two branches. This would mean doubling the time spent testing each of them for every update. So, realistically, most of us are probably fine with just having different endings, so it's just not worth the effort.

The thing is, beyond cost-efficency of what would please the fans more with the least unnecessary effort, we have to take into consideration what is it that Fujino wants to do.
Branching paths might be way too difficult for him to do right now, and perhaps it might be a bad idea objectively, but Fujino might want to give it a try.
SAO is completly different to his other games, with him seemingly wanting to challenge himself with a more complex game.

All that yapping to say, "Who knows what Fujino will do, I'm fine either way honestly."

 

[albakr0ss]

Ironically, Kirito's and Inoda's relationship is actually quite natural (putting NTR logic aside). In real life, it's normal for a couple to have friends that the other partner doesn't necessarily care about. So, you might spend time together if needed, or just let them meet separately. That's how I see their relationship. Asuna seems to like Inoda as a friend, so Kirito just goes along with it, and he also doesn't see Inoda as a potential threat for various reasons, but mostly because of not being able to build up suspicion. From a developer's perspective, it opens up space for more interactions between Asuna and Inoda.

As for boosting Inoda's power over Kirito, I mean, yeah, from Inoda's POV maybe, but as a player, we know that since the introduction of the Admin, it's all thanks to her because of how game-breaking deleting Kirito's suspicion every day actually is. I still think that's the most immersion-destroying tool, period. That was the final straw for me to let it go completely, because it turned the main plot into a predetermined slideshow without any tension and character development.

I personally don’t like how much influence the admin currently has since it does make the whole story feel a bit pointless since they pretty much dictate where the story goes. That’s why I want Inoda to have more control later on, sure he gets some help to jump start over the big initial hurdles but we really need to feel like everything is just inherently convenient. Inoda making a move on Asuna knowing Liz was running interference made sense. Inoda getting a handjob from her in the gym because Kirito was busy with other things didn’t. I’d just like to think that aside from Asuna bending over (literally and figuratively) for Inoda he needs to go from “I can’t be caught by Kirito or else” to “it doesn’t matter if he catches me or not” since that’s I think the development we need for him to seem like he’s genuinely stealing her away from him.

 

[NiktoAzure]

mushoku tensei is good for ntr game, nagatoro is weird for me

Well, Senpai loves Nagatoro, Nagatoro bullies Senpai. In general, NTRS can do more here.
But Nagatoro is the best option, and in anime the girls are beautiful and sexy, and there is a large selection.

 

[4-kun]

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

Fern and Stark are not in love; they are fond of each other at most. There is potential for the future, but I think it's just too early for parodies. We don't even know how the whole story will play out; one or both could even die by the end. Who knows?

But Rudeus is the perfect candidate to be NTRed.