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I have been a fan of the Sword Art Online for 14 years and I can hardly perceive this game in isolation from the original. Everything was correct in the first part. Asuna is a kind and trusting girl like in the Novel. Kirito is brave and smart. Everything was right. And even Inoda was well suited to Asuna's kind nature and her maternal instinct. And the second part... Well I do not know. The same 18-year-old Asuna, kind and gentle, turns into a sow in a month who fully realizes herself as a fallen whore.

Judging by how Fujino's number of subscribers increased after he started making SAO, there are a lot of people like me. Fujino, in fact, took advantage of a well-known and popular novel and at the moment merges the history of the world and characters in favor of the usual cliched NTR logic.

This is my opinion. Don't swear at me too much. And maybe it will change everything, because so far there is a little more than half game. But it's unlikely. Fujino thought out the ending at the very beginning. Usually, in this case, the developer hardly wants to change anything.
Well, they are only 18 because it's an porn game, If you take into consideration that the whole story takes place after SAO, the characters are around actually 14-16 :sneaky:
 
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Actually no King, MASSIVE correction/misunderstanding you have there: Liz DOESN'T know. I know over the course of months is easy to lose track of 'minor' things in the plot, but I would recommend a replay at some point to fully refresh your memory; during the Liz & Inoda 'alliance' plot, it's kinda a big deal that Inoda is completely lying to Lisbeth about what he has managed or how far he has gone with Asuna, Liz doesn't know about the rainy night, about the extent he can push his powers, etc. There is even a 'report' of him not that long ago after the massage where he tells her that the further he has gotten with Asuna is a kiss, and she has no reason to believe he's lying, she in fact punished him about 'wasting the precious opportunity she made for him'. The "joke" here is that this is to further make Inoda seem like some 4D chessmaster (Or Administrator's second favorite toy in this case) because at the same time he has "allied" with Liz to further his goals he's also playing her to eventually catch her off-guard and turn her into his slave-slut #3 as he has been doing with Asuna and Kyouko, the more "harmless" Liz thinks he is if he's constantly failing on her chances, the easier it's for him to get her in situations where he can start corrupting her, like the 'massage practice/spanking' he gave her not long ago.
It is hard to track of all the details especially on the side characters. I know she doesn't know about the Lustful Night. That is why I said "At least she knows everything he has done since she appeared in the game.". She would know about the church confessions and massages since she planned those. I guess I didn't know if she knew how far Inoda has gotten with Asuna.

It would be nice to replay the previous parts to refresh my memory. But with the current state of the game, that is not possible. It would be better to wait until the game is done before doing that. At least here there is always someone who can remember stuff other people forgot or not understand. (y)
 
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Well, they are only 18 because it's an porn game, If you take into consideration that the whole story takes place after SAO, the characters are around actually 14-16 :sneaky:
Asuna was born on September 30th, 2007, she is 19 in the game. Kirito was born on October 7, 2008. He is 18, and according to history, they all study at a school for those stuck in SAO. If Inoda kohai is for her, then he may also be 18, or maybe even 17.
 

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Yeah, I guess Liz will fall as soon as Asuna accepts irl sex, because there would be nothing she can offer Inoda to keep playing along with her schemes.
Either that or Liz falls first and helps corrupts Asuna in the real world too. She really is not making any leads with Kirito anyway and all the "practice" she does with Inoda, it is hard to know what else she can for Inoda besides blocking Kirito.

Asuna was born on September 30th, 2007, she is 19 in the game. Kirito was born on October 7, 2008. He is 18, and according to history, they all study at a school for those stuck in SAO. If Inoda kohai is for her, then he may also be 18, or maybe even 17.
It is best not to count on canon information unless Fujino said so. Asuna has said in-game she is barely 18. As 4-kun, that is only she can pass as legal in porn game.
 

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I have been a fan of the Sword Art Online for 14 years and I can hardly perceive this game in isolation from the original. Everything was correct in the first part. Asuna is a kind and trusting girl like in the Novel. Kirito is brave and smart. Everything was right. And even Inoda was well suited to Asuna's kind nature and her maternal instinct. And the second part... Well I do not know. The same 18-year-old Asuna, kind and gentle, turns into a sow in a month who fully realizes herself as a fallen whore.

Judging by how Fujino's number of subscribers increased after he started making SAO, there are a lot of people like me. Fujino, in fact, took advantage of a well-known and popular novel and at the moment merges the history of the world and characters in favor of the usual cliched NTR logic.

This is my opinion. Don't swear at me too much. And maybe it will change everything, because so far there is a little more than half game. But it's unlikely. Fujino thought out the ending at the very beginning. Usually, in this case, the developer hardly wants to change anything.
Exactly. SAO is famous and has a lot of fans, or at least many people know it and its characters like Asuna, Kirito, Sugu, etc. I do believe that many people want to play Fujino's game because they are attracted by these names. It happens to me. Otherwise, this will just be another regular NTR game. The feeling will be completely different.

Like I said, it's okay to see all these female characters corrupt and Kirito becomes a cuck. No problem to me because this is a NTR game. I am aware of that and I still choose to play. It's just a little sad to see that these characters are not who they are in SAO. After all, it's a waste of the SAO background because I don't think Fujino will make another SAO NTR game after finishing this one.
 

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Either that or Liz falls first and helps corrupts Asuna in the real world too. She really is not making any leads with Kirito anyway and all the "practice" she does with Inoda, it is hard to know what else she can for Inoda besides blocking Kirito.


It is best not to count on canon information unless Fujino said so. Asuna has said in-game she is barely 18. As 4-kun, that is only she can pass as legal in porn game.
Also, wasn’t Asuna one year older than Kirito in the original? Which would make Inoda actually two years younger :sick:
 
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Also, wasn’t Asuna one year older than Kirito in the original? Which would make Inoda actually two years younger :sick:
Since Inoda is a OC, it is just as likely he was held back for four years and he is two years older than Asuna. :LOL:
 
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Since Inoda is a OC, it is just as likely he was held back for four years and he is two years older than Asuna. :LOL:
Yeah, he’s probably the janitor at the school but disguises himself as a student.

Another thing I really wonder is why no one is discussing how Asuna and Inoda made out, with her not really being opposed to it—something only lovers should do if you go by her character. Even considering the excuse of it being in VR, it doesn't really fit, because kissing isn't necessary for "relief." Well, I guess it's Fujino's way of building up the love path for Asuna. :LOL:
 

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Also, wasn’t Asuna one year older than Kirito in the original? Which would make Inoda actually two years younger :sick:
I mean, one or two years aren't really an issue, to be fair, but yeah, like, Kirito SHOULDN'T be in the same class as Liz and Asuna and still is, if you recall, and Sinon period shouldn't be in that school yet she was a librarian despite being canonically younger than Suguha, is better to not really think about the lack of logic in everyone's ages or placements in the plot XD
 
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Exactly. SAO is famous and has a lot of fans, or at least many people know it and its characters like Asuna, Kirito, Sugu, etc. I do believe that many people want to play Fujino's game because they are attracted by these names. It happens to me. Otherwise, this will just be another regular NTR game. The feeling will be completely different.

Like I said, it's okay to see all these female characters corrupt and Kirito becomes a cuck. No problem to me because this is a NTR game. I am aware of that and I still choose to play. It's just a little sad to see that these characters are not who they are in SAO. After all, it's a waste of the SAO background because I don't think Fujino will make another SAO NTR game after finishing this one.
Remember in the SAO background Asuna and Kirito have gone through a lot, and all those shaped their love, that they are a couple who can trust each other with their own life. So this makes the latest update totally off, where Kirito doesn't want to tell Asuna that he is in a secret investigation in FOG for the police, neither before the investigation nor after it. Why?

Given this is a big plot in the game update and maybe even an important step in Asuna's corruption, Kirito's excuse (in fact, Fujino's excuse) for not telling Asuna what he is doing in FOG doesn't make any sense. From the perks we can see how Asuna loves Kirito: She is willing to do anything for him, even sacrificing her life. She is willing to go to the US to be with Kirito if he studies there. This is a very big decision but Asuna agrees at once with no hesitation at all. It makes sense because this is the SAO background. But in the same background, Kirito doesn't want to tell Asuna what he is doing for the police? And this triggers all the next consequences, including Asuna believing that Kirito is visiting the brothel, right after their date and sex? Excuse me?
 

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Remember in the SAO background Asuna and Kirito have gone through a lot, and all those shaped their love, that they are a couple who can trust each other with their own life. So this makes the latest update totally off, where Kirito doesn't want to tell Asuna that he is in a secret investigation in FOG for the police, neither before the investigation nor after it. Why?

Given this is a big plot in the game update and maybe even an important step in Asuna's corruption, Kirito's excuse (in fact, Fujino's excuse) for not telling Asuna what he is doing in FOG doesn't make any sense. From the perks we can see how Asuna loves Kirito: She is willing to do anything for him, even sacrificing her life. She is willing to go to the US to be with Kirito if he studies there. This is a very big decision but Asuna agrees at once with no hesitation at all. It makes sense because this is the SAO background. But in the same background, Kirito doesn't want to tell Asuna what he is doing for the police? And this triggers all the next consequences, including Asuna believing that Kirito is visiting the brothel, right after their date and sex? Excuse me?
Well, that's what I'm talking about. Fujino subordinates the characters of NTR to logic, despite their background. And he changes the characters and events to suit his chosen plot line.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kirito had already opened the door to the room where Inoda and Asuna were fucking, then a wooden log would have fallen from above and knocked him out. Or Kirito slipped on Inoda's sperm and hit the back of head on the floor and lost consciousness .
 
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Another thing I really wonder is why no one is discussing how Asuna and Inoda made out, with her not really being opposed to it—something only lovers should do if you go by her character. Even considering the excuse of it being in VR, it doesn't really fit, because kissing isn't necessary for "relief." Well, I guess it's Fujino's way of building up the love path for Asuna. :LOL:
She has allowed sex and BJ in FOG so only kissing is left. Not including anal which no one mentions. Kissing is something Asuna to needs to allow or there is no way for Asuna to start loving Inoda. Now Asuna will "act" like lovers in FOG because she still believes it is not real and it will help her in real world. Also that moment she was tried and confused which Inoda took advantage of.

I mean, one or two years aren't really an issue, to be fair, but yeah, like, Kirito SHOULDN'T be in the same class as Liz and Asuna and still is, if you recall, and Sinon period shouldn't be in that school yet she was a librarian despite being canonically younger than Suguha, is better to not really think about the lack of logic in everyone's ages or placements in the plot XD
Sinon only showed in Kirito's school in Part 2. I guess that was when Fujino put the characters together for convenience. I think he could have transferred Suguha into Inoda's grade too. But I think he still trying to keep her separate from Kirito's plotline so he didn't.
 

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Yeah, he’s probably the janitor at the school but disguises himself as a student.

Another thing I really wonder is why no one is discussing how Asuna and Inoda made out, with her not really being opposed to it—something only lovers should do if you go by her character. Even considering the excuse of it being in VR, it doesn't really fit, because kissing isn't necessary for "relief." Well, I guess it's Fujino's way of building up the love path for Asuna. :LOL:
In Part I, Fujino continuously emphasizes that Asuna has this maternal instinct to take care of the weak, although some lines are crossed. This is Asuna's strength and also her weakness, and Inoda takes advantage of it. So in all it makes sense.

But in Part II, such SAO background has gone a lot, especially Asuna's and Kirito's characteristics. Like you said, making out in the virtual game. But Asuna and Kirito spend so much time together in virtual games, I believe that the virtual games should have become another realities to them. So Asuna believes that having sex with Inoda in FOG is not cheating? Just think about it.

I understand that Fujino has to come up with a way of pushing the story forward, but personally I think this idea (starting to corrupt Asuna by doing virtual sex in FOG) is not a very good one.
 
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Well, that's what I'm talking about. Fujino subordinates the characters of NTR to logic, despite their background. And he changes the characters and events to suit his chosen plot line.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kirito had already opened the door to the room where Inoda and Asuna were fucking, then a wooden log would have fallen from above and knocked him out. Or Kirito slipped on Inoda's sperm and hit the back of head on the floor and lost consciousness .
and then Asuna asks Inoda if Kirito got hurt and Inoda replies: nah, he's fine....where were we? :sneaky:
 

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In Part I, Fujino continuously emphasizes that Asuna has this maternal instinct to take care of the weak, although some lines are crossed. This is Asuna's strength and also her weakness, and Inoda takes advantage of it. So in all it makes sense.

But in Part II, such SAO background has gone a lot, especially Asuna's and Kirito's characteristics. Like you said, making out in the virtual game. But Asuna and Kirito spend so much time together in virtual games, I believe that the virtual games should have become another realities to them. So Asuna believes that having sex with Inoda in FOG is not cheating? Just think about it.

I understand that Fujino has to come up with a way of pushing the story forward, but personally I think this idea (starting to corrupt Asuna by doing virtual sex in FOG) is not a very good one.
It is a big plot point in this game. Asuna did treat the virtual world same as the real world so she doesn't allow anything in FOG, besides groping apparently. But the first part of Inoda's corruption was convincing Asuna virtual is not the real world so doing various sexual activities in FOG is not wrong. The perk, Virtual Connection, explains this. Now the current part to convince Asuna acting like lovers in FOG is okay too because it is not real. Then the next part should be eventually their activities will spill into the real world.
 
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It is a big plot point in this game. Asuna did treat the virtual world same as the real world so she doesn't allow anything in FOG, besides groping apparently. But the first part of Inoda's corruption was convincing Asuna virtual is not the real world so doing various sexual activities in FOG is not wrong. The perk, Virtual Connection, explains this. Now the current part to convince Asuna acting like lovers in FOG is okay too because it is not real. Then the next part should be eventually their activities will spill into the real world.
In the real world, Asuna has no more excuses, since it is no longer a game
 

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It is a big plot point in this game. Asuna did treat the virtual world same as the real world so she doesn't allow anything in FOG, besides groping apparently. But the first part of Inoda's corruption was convincing Asuna virtual is not the real world so doing various sexual activities in FOG is not wrong. The perk, Virtual Connection, explains this. Now the current part to convince Asuna acting like lovers in FOG is okay too because it is not real. Then the next part should be eventually their activities will spill into the real world.
Maybe that's what these new antennas in the game are for. They will do something like augmented reality, but only in a person's head. Asuna has an example, and she can confuse the game and reality.

And then it will just be too late to change anything and Asuna, as usual, will justify herself.
 
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In the real world, Asuna has no more excuses, since it is no longer a game
I am sure she will get a perk for that. :LOL:

Maybe that's what these new antennas in the game are for. They will do something like augmented reality, but only in a person's head. Asuna has an example, and she can confuse the game and reality.

And then it will just be too late to change anything and Asuna, as usual, will justify herself.
So Kirito will think he is back with Kayaba so the Council can get information about the seed. While Asuna and Inoda will think they are in game and start fucking in the real world? I am down with that. (y)
 
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She has allowed sex and BJ in FOG so only kissing is left. Not including anal which no one mentions. Kissing is something Asuna to needs to allow or there is no way for Asuna to start loving Inoda. Now Asuna will "act" like lovers in FOG because she still believes it is not real and it will help her in real world. Also that moment she was tried and confused which Inoda took advantage of.


Sinon only showed in Kirito's school in Part 2. I guess that was when Fujino put the characters together for convenience. I think he could have transferred Suguha into Inoda's grade too. But I think he still trying to keep her separate from Kirito's plotline so he didn't.
I mean, that's still nonsensical really, and also again, Suguha has no reason to transfer there because she's not an SAO Survivor XD Hell, Liz canonically was going to the school alongside Silica too since the beginning while in the NTR-verse she 'transferred' during part 2 and Fujino made up that she couldn't go before because of plot reasons, so yeah, most things DON'T make any sense if you really try and look into them using the logic of Canon SAO, Fujino just handwaves them for the sake of NTR or outright doesn't know them as he clearly has barely second-hand-knowledge of the series, but there are know enough people to know or cares enough about it when they're just here for more NTR, so he keeps going just like that :3

At the end of the day, one just doesn't have to think too deeply about it whether they know the series or not, really. The more you try to justify the actions of the characters or make sense of the game, the dumber everything becomes :O
 
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