RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[Infeno2.0]

we are not yet close to the end to give certain conclusions, we can not know who will be the winner, it could be Suguha winner, because that quiet quiet and in the end hits and wins, only Fujino knows how it will end and he could also change the idea, it is possible that some SAO fans told him that if he wants more fans, he should not limit himself to making the same endings for each game. NTR online is not like all the games that Fujino has made, lately it seems to me that he is trying to do something original instead of doing everything linear and that is the beauty

That's right it's too early to draw any conclusions, but with 60% of the story already told we can guess how or if it will end.
He changed the main plot toward the Council, he is giving more space for secondary characters plots like Sugu or Sinon but with the Inoda/Asuna plot he has been quite consistent is the same since the beggining, with some adjusts here and there but nothing major which means no changes to the original endings he already had in mnd.
The way the story goes so far points to Kirito ending up alone and oblivious to everything around him, or he being a voyeur cuck who likes to watch but don't do anything, and this can go with Asuna not even aware to the fact that he knows about her and Inoda. In this scenario is very unlikely Kirito will endup with someone else like Suguha, but her part of the plot is wide open for anything right now.
Asuna/Inoda/Kirito we going to get a real idea that how is going to end when Fujino bring the affair IRL, depending how he make the transition if he uses the reason that everyone already knows from the perk list he's not going to change anything in the endings, now if he came up with a different reason that could lead to new endings.

 

[hotzenfotz]

Hey guys, can someone explain two things to me that I didnt get.

1:Whats with the oberon flashbacks? I havent watched sao and interpreted it as flash forwards, but that seems unlikely now
2:I totally missed suguha catching asuna cheating. when did it happen?

 

[4-kun]

Hey guys, can someone explain two things to me that I didnt get.

1:Whats with the oberon flashbacks? I havent watched sao and interpreted it as flash forwards, but that seems unlikely now
2:I totally missed suguha catching asuna cheating. when did it happen?

1. In the original series, Oberon held Asuna captive too.

2. Suguha didn’t catch them, but she overheard their conversation via her hidden cam in Kirito’s apartment.

 

[hotzenfotz]

1. In the original series, Oberon held Asuna captive too.

2. Suguha didn’t catch them, but she overheard their conversation via her hidden cam in Kirito’s apartment.

So the oberon scenes are flashbacks to something that "really happened" in fushinos game back in SAO?

 

[4-kun]

So the oberon scenes are flashbacks to something that "really happened" in fushinos game back in SAO?

Well, Fujino obviously changed the story for NTR purposes and also altered some other details. In the original series, Kirito saved Asuna from Oberon, but in Fujino's version, he couldn't save her. Instead, her father saved her later.

I’m not too familiar with the franchise myself, so I can’t give you more details.

 

[kinglionheart]

So the oberon scenes are flashbacks to something that "really happened" in fushinos game back in SAO?

Those are not flashbacks. They were video files the council had on Oberon. They were working with Oberon before and Kirito were looking through the council's files when he found the video. Also yes those things in video should have happened in Fujino's version of SAO.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

1. In the original series, Oberon held Asuna captive too.

2. Suguha didn’t catch them, but she overheard their conversation via her hidden cam in Kirito’s apartment.

"Overheard" isn't quite the right term, she literally SAW them after all, namely Inoda getting handsy with Asuna and she answering while blatantly making it clear it was a regular thing XD

 

[kinglionheart]

"Overheard" isn't quite the right term, she literally SAW them after all, namely Inoda getting handsy with Asuna and she answering while blatantly making it clear it was a regular thing XD

Also there is a option to have only video when viewing CCTV scenes makes me think only the video not the sound are recorded. The added audio is just Administrator magic. So Suguha didn't "hear" anything, she only "saw" Inoda getting handsy with Asuna and made the conclusion herself. This will also explain why she needs more proof for Kirito they are cheating.

 

[4-kun]

Also there is a option to have only video when viewing CCTV scenes makes me think only the video not the sound are recorded. The added audio is just Administrator magic. So Suguha didn't "hear" anything, she only "saw" Inoda getting handsy with Asuna and made the conclusion herself. This will also explain why she needs more proof for Kirito they are cheating.

Gosh, I get it, I used the wrong term but that wasn’t even the point—the hidden cam was

 

[kinglionheart]

Gosh, I get it, I used the wrong term but that wasn’t even the point—the hidden cam was

It was correct and gang up on 4-kun day. Did you not get the memo?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Also there is a option to have only video when viewing CCTV scenes makes me think only the video not the sound are recorded. The added audio is just Administrator magic. So Suguha didn't "hear" anything, she only "saw" Inoda getting handsy with Asuna and made the conclusion herself. This will also explain why she needs more proof for Kirito they are cheating.

I actually had never considered that, tbh, are you sure that's not just a funnily-worded option to get the CG/animation without text? Because reminder, the cameras ARE Hebishima's, and we KNOW his cameras have audio, that's how he discovered Suguha was actually masturbating to Kirito and her feelings for him back when he blackmailed her in Part 1 XP

 

[kinglionheart]

Maybe but it is the only scenes like that. I thought maybe it is because it is a 1 CG scene so Fujino made it different. But even the similarly short 1 CG Inoda armpit fucking Asuna scene didn't have this option. Maybe it was a stylistic choice to make the CCTV scenes mute and blurry so it is like a surveillance video.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Maybe but it is the only scenes like that. I thought maybe it is because it is a 1 CG scene so Fujino made it different. But even the similarly short 1 CG Inoda armpit fucking Asuna scene didn't have this option. Maybe it was a stylistic choice to make the CCTV scenes mute and blurry so it is like a surveillance video.

I mean, the Inoda armpit-fucking Asuna was during a call so it's not the same, these are meant to be literal recordings made by Suguha XP (If we're being hyper-realistic then maybe she actually prefers replaying them without sound because she only hears herself and is not like Onii-chan is saying anything or even moaning, hell once he even called Liz's name if I recall because of that dream XD) I personally will keep assuming Suguha indeed was smart enough to get the cameras with actual audio from Hebishima until Fujino says otherwise :3

 

[kinglionheart]

I mean, the Inoda armpit-fucking Asuna was during a call so it's not the same, these are meant to be literal recordings made by Suguha XP (If we're being hyper-realistic then maybe she actually prefers replaying them without sound because she only hears herself and is not like Onii-chan is saying anything or even moaning, hell once he even called Liz's name if I recall because of that dream XD) I personally will keep assuming Suguha indeed was smart enough to get the cameras with actual audio from Hebishima until Fujino says otherwise :3

The Inoda&Asuna scene I was talking about was when they were in the homebase and Kirito walked in on them so Inoda went invisible. I agree it doesn't make sense the video doesn't have audio but it doesn't make sense those scenes are blurry too. It is a bit of wild guess that those videos didn't record the audio but I still think it is a choice by Fujino to make it like that.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

The Inoda&Asuna scene I was talking about was when they were in the homebase and Kirito walked in on them so Inoda went invisible. I agree it doesn't make sense the video doesn't have audio but it doesn't make sense those scenes are blurry too. It is a bit of wild guess that those videos didn't record the audio but I still think it is a choice by Fujino to make it like that.

Oh, I had forgotten about that one! And well, yeah, Fujino gave them the 'blurry' thing to make them seen like they had actually been made as recordings (Too bad he didn't add also a 'normal' version sadly), but again, this doesn't contradict what I meant, the recording Hebishima had of Suguha masturbating back in Part 1 was like that too if I recall right, and it still had audio. So again, until Fujino says otherwise I don't really think there is anything definitive indicating Sugu has no audio XP

 

[kinglionheart]

Oh, I had forgotten about that one! And well, yeah, Fujino gave them the 'blurry' thing to make them seen like they had actually been made as recordings (Too bad he didn't add also a 'normal' version sadly), but again, this doesn't contradict what I meant, the recording Hebishima had of Suguha masturbating back in Part 1 was like that too if I recall right, and it still had audio. So again, until Fujino says otherwise I don't really think there is anything definitive indicating Sugu has no audio XP

I think you are right that the recordings had audio. But it was a weird choice for Fujino to only make those scenes without text. Maybe it was because it was so short so he can't use the normal choices like the other scenes. It would be interesting if the recording did not have audio so Suguha only saw Inoda get handsy with Asuna. She made the deduction she is cheating but needs more proof.

 

[dakamuto]

Maybe but it is the only scenes like that. I thought maybe it is because it is a 1 CG scene so Fujino made it different. But even the similarly short 1 CG Inoda armpit fucking Asuna scene didn't have this option. Maybe it was a stylistic choice to make the CCTV scenes mute and blurry so it is like a surveillance video.

What is this scene with armpit fucking?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I think you are right that the recordings had audio. But it was a weird choice for Fujino to only make those scenes without text. Maybe it was because it was so short so he can't use the normal choices like the other scenes. It would be interesting if the recording did not have audio so Suguha only saw Inoda get handsy with Asuna. She made the deduction she is cheating but needs more proof.

The thing is that Suguha doesn't NEED proof, like, she was Yandere-hating Asuna beforehand, she didn't need anything else to dislike her, so she was convinced already that she was cheating without much effort, the thing is that she decided to not tell Kirito anything to not hurt him (Which given how Kirito wrote Asuna over-reacting to him 'cheating' may be the right idea, he may have a mental breakdown if told XP). Is not like she really cares for showing proof of her cheating to Kazuto, she wants to steal him in the first place so that's moot, and it's not like she could show any of her recordings to him anyway even if she wanted to tell him without the question of "Wait, why the hell did you put cameras in my room?" coming up XD

 

[4-kun]

I think you are right that the recordings had audio. But it was a weird choice for Fujino to only make those scenes without text. Maybe it was because it was so short so he can't use the normal choices like the other scenes. It would be interesting if the recording did not have audio so Suguha only saw Inoda get handsy with Asuna. She made the deduction she is cheating but needs more proof.

Hmm, yeah, albeit it doesn’t change much in the end. I guess we’re still going to see Detective Suguha in action.

 

[kinglionheart]

The thing is that Suguha doesn't NEED proof, like, she was Yandere-hating Asuna beforehand, she didn't need anything else to dislike her, so she was convinced already that she was cheating without much effort, the thing is that she decided to not tell Kirito anything to not hurt him (Which given how Kirito wrote Asuna over-reacting to him 'cheating' may be the right idea, he may have a mental breakdown if told XP). Is not like she really cares for showing proof of her cheating to Kazuto, she wants to steal him in the first place so that's moot, and it's not like she could show any of her recordings to him anyway even if she wanted to tell him without the question of "Wait, why the hell did you put cameras in my room?" coming up XD

I don't mean proof for her that Asuna is cheating. If she wants to break Kirito from Asuna she will a reason for Kirito to break up with Asuna. The video without audio only gave her the idea that Asuna is cheating so that is how she will convince Kirito to break up with Asuna. I know she won't show the recording to Kirito, that is just self-sabotage. Now she needs to get other proof to prove to Kirito.

Hmm, yeah, albeit it doesn’t change much in the end. I guess we’re still going to see Detective Suguha in action.

True enough. But it could be cool detail later if we learn Suguha didn't know what Asuna and Inoda was talking about.

What is this scene with armpit fucking?

In the Asuna recollection room "6/18 Armpit Fragrance"