RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[Aniky Light]

No one likes Inoda except Fujino, so he will put Inoda in a situation where Kirito deceived him and Asuna. This adds points to Inoda, as a dramatic hero, a victim of the machinations of the evil deceiver Kirito. Inoda selflessly defends the honor of his pig wife in front of the deceiver Kirito.

Authors who choose one favorite character tend to idealize and dramatize his image, so don't be surprised, bro, that in future updates there will be a scene in which Asuna says to Inode, "How brave you are, protecting me from that damn liar Kirito, he cheated on me with Suguha and dared to accuse me of something else! Now I'm yours forever, Inoda!"

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And so you get a change of perspective. Asuna, for all her hypocrisy, is a little justified, Inoda becomes a little more heroic, and Kirito becomes the main asshole.

Asuna and Inoda two fucking fakes xD, imagine Asuna with fake tears

Kirito: is it over? who cares, at least I don't have to worry about anyone and he goes away whistling

 

[cp2020]

But isn't your theory the game was originally Level 3 (Asuna's thoughts and focus) but starts to shift to Level 2 (Inoda's) is why people does not like the recent update? That does not make sense since Inoda's thoughts has been on full display for a while now. Most of the time when he is having conscious sex with Asuna we can hear his thoughts. That part had not changed.

I get POV is not the same as focus of the game. Even in Part 1, Kirito was just a noncharacter that he barely reacted to anything around him. But the focus was on his near discoveries of the corruption not on Asuna's corruption or Inoda. Asuna's parts were optional! For example nothing Inoda did to Asuna really had an effect. She still wanted to leave Inoda and go with Kirito to America. Which caused Inoda to do Lustiful Night as a desperate attempt to keep her but the effects of that were only explored in Part 2.

Yes, the main story is at Level 3, but there may be mini plots shifting to other levels (normal as this game has been developed for years), for example, the original cave plot was more at Level 1. So players can feel it as they are used to Level 3 content, then they ask Inoda to add more content at Level 3. Inoda did what players asked for.

 

[Aniky Light]

imagine if Inoda is Fujino's real name

 

[cp2020]

I don't know what you're talking about, but Kirito has betrayed Asuna for a long time now, I already wrote that Kirito and Asuna are absolutely identical characters in this game who cheat on each other, as for me, Asuna even wins here, she at least tries to squeeze out something about guilt, when Kirito just thinks that Asuna doesn't find out and that's it. (well, if you choose the path of the unfaithful Kirito, of course).

Okay, let me unpack in this way:

Does Kirito have to cheat and have sex with other girls in this game?

Not really.

Reason 1: Fujino does not have this habit in his past games. The male MCs are always observers. They never cheat their girlfriends/wives.

Reason 2: This habit continues in SAO 1 and early SAO 2. Kirito goes around the map and finds the sex scenes of other girls.

Reason 3: An early hint is already provided where the church guy teaches Kirito about letting other men fuck his girlfriend (suggesting a cuckold realization). Still no need for Kirito to have sex with other girls.

There are still many other clues but I'll just stop here. So now let's come back to the question: Why does Kirito become a cheater and have fantasies about other girls? Will this make the game story more complex or more straightforward? If more complex, then why does Fujino choose to develop this line of content?

So a logical conclusion is that Fujino wants Kirito to cheat for certain reasons. Some possible reasons might be:

Option 1: Fujino empathizes Kirito so he wants Kirito to achieve something while losing Asuna.
Unlikely, because he hates, or at least doesn't care about Kirito.

Option 2: Letting Kirito cheat will make many players happy.
Unlikely, because there is no evidence from the majority. Fujino doesn't have to make this change based on empty assumption.

Option 3: Letting Kirito cheat will help the plot flow more smoothly.
Unlikely, because those plots can still well flow without Kirito's sexual interactions with other girls.

Option 4: Some rich people pay Fujino to add this content.
Maybe, but no evidence or clue hinted in his posts.

Option 5: Letting Kirito cheat can help justify Asuna's betrayal and hypocrisy.
At least makes some sense. Before cheating, Kirito has no moral stain. People may say he is blind or oblivious, but morally he is loyal to Asuna as his true love. But after cheating, Kirito is degraded to a dishonest man, who cannot get hard when having sex with his girlfriend but have to fantasize other girls.

Now ask yourself, how do you feel about this Kirito after cheating? It is logical to assume that people may see Kirito as a clown, who cannot satisfy his girlfriend but still think about other girls, so no wonder why his girlfriend leaves him, and maybe other girls too, to join Inoda's harem.

In content creation, there is a principle called "Do not add unnecessary things if you don't have to". It implies that when something is created, there is a purpose (based on the premise that Fujino is sane). So I've tried to figure out why Kirito is made to cheat because without this part, this game can still be an intact NTR game.

 

[kinglionheart]

And how would you, and other forum members, feel about a game in which most things happen from a woman's point of view?
I just think it's more interesting than playing as a character who usually doesn't influence anything.
I just once wrote that for me, NTR/cheating is more psychology than just a stupid sex scene with someone else. Moreover, the fact that there was a person with certain principles and suddenly he saw a big dick/big boobs and that's it, he threw all his life principles in the trash right there is incomprehensible. And the view from a cheating character can just show his changes.

I think many people including myself would not mind having mostly a woman's POV. There are plenty of games that do just that. The problem for me doing a woman's POV is that narrative will be long and often does not pay out. I am making an assumption that most that play these games are men and do not know what women are thinking when they cheat. So they, like isekai writers, just copy what worked for others and hope for best. The end results are either unoriginal or unbelievable to the reader. Asuna in this game is a great example for the latter. You can bring psychology ideas to add realism but between the long development time in-between releases and how much other games are out to occupy their time, I feel it is not worth my time to invest in a game where the main question is not how a woman falls but why. I would not mind if the game was short or the reasons obvious but if that was the case, I would rather read a doujinshi instead.

Yes, the main story is at Level 3, but there may be mini plots shifting to other levels (normal as this game has been developed for years), for example, the original cave plot was more at Level 1. So players can feel it as they are used to Level 3 content, then they ask Inoda to add more content at Level 3. Inoda did what players asked for.

Sounds like you are saying Fujino wanted to make an Level 3 game but didn't make enough content to justify it. I still don't agree with your premise that the dislike for the recent update is people noticing the shift from Asuna's focus and thoughts to Inoda's since Inoda's thoughts has been shown to use for most of Part 2. At least for me, I see pretty much all the scenes with Inoda in the Recollection Room, including the new ones this update, having been about him. But of course I admit I might be the minority and other people would agree with you.

Okay, let me unpack in this way:

Does Kirito have to cheat and have sex with other girls in this game?

Not really.

Reason 1: Fujino does not have this habit in his past games. The male MCs are always observers. They never cheat their girlfriends/wives.

Reason 2: This habit continues in SAO 1 and early SAO 2. Kirito goes around the map and finds the sex scenes of other girls.

Reason 3: An early hint is already provided where the church guy teaches Kirito about letting other men fuck his girlfriend (suggesting a cuckold realization). Still no need for Kirito to have sex with other girls.

There are still many other clues but I'll just stop here. So now let's come back to the question: Why does Kirito become a cheater and have fantasies about other girls? Will this make the game story more complex or more straightforward? If more complex, then why does Fujino choose to develop this line of content?

So a logical conclusion is that Fujino wants Kirito to cheat for certain reasons. Some possible reasons might be:

Option 1: Fujino empathizes Kirito so he wants Kirito to achieve something while losing Asuna.
Unlikely, because he hates, or at least doesn't care about Kirito.

Option 2: Letting Kirito cheat will make many players happy.
Unlikely, because there is no evidence from the majority. Fujino doesn't have to make this change based on empty assumption.

Option 3: Letting Kirito cheat will help the plot flow more smoothly.
Unlikely, because those plots can still well flow without Kirito's sexual interactions with other girls.

Option 4: Some rich people pay Fujino to add this content.
Maybe, but no evidence or clue hinted in his posts.

Option 5: Letting Kirito cheat can help justify Asuna's betrayal and hypocrisy.
At least makes some sense. Before cheating, Kirito has no moral stain. People may say he is blind or oblivious, but morally he is loyal to Asuna as his true love. But after cheating, Kirito is degraded to a dishonest man, who cannot get hard when having sex with his girlfriend but have to fantasize other girls.

Now ask yourself, how do you feel about this Kirito after cheating? It is logical to assume that people may see Kirito as a clown, who cannot satisfy his girlfriend but still think about other girls, so no wonder why his girlfriend leaves him, and maybe other girls too, to join Inoda's harem.

In content creation, there is a principle called "Do not add unnecessary things if you don't have to". It implies that when something is created, there is a purpose (based on the premise that Fujino is sane). So I've tried to figure out why Kirito is made to cheat because without this part, this game can still be an intact NTR game.

If this is an Level 3 game where the focus is on Asuna, then Kirito's choosing to cheat or not probably won't affect the main story which is Asuna's story. As you said

A game can be played based on the male MC's POV but still focus more on the female's process of corruption. In this case, players control the male MC to go around maps, interact with NPCs, make choices, but their actions usually don't alter the main line of the story.

But since there is an option for Kirito to cheat or not and as you said Fujino would not add this feature without reason, it makes sense to assume the decision will affect someone else's fate not Asuna's. The most likely candidate is Kirito since it is his decisions but I suppose it could also affect the girls he is cheating with.

 

[Aniky Light]

and maybe other girls too, to join Inoda's harem.

and why should they join Inoda? why does Kirito betray? They know who betrayed first, but they are all cowards to say it, Liz knows it, Suguha knows it, Sinon knows it

 

[karlA29]

I think many people including myself would not mind having mostly a woman's POV. There are plenty of games that do just that. The problem for me doing a woman's POV is that narrative will be long and often does not pay out. I am making an assumption that most that play these games are men and do not know what women are thinking when they cheat. So they, like isekai writers, just copy what worked for others and hope for best. The end results are either unoriginal or unbelievable to the reader. Asuna in this game is a great example for the latter. You can bring psychology ideas to add realism but between the long development time in-between releases and how much other games are out to occupy their time, I feel it is not worth my time to invest in a game where the main question is not how a woman falls but why.

Thank you very much for such a detailed answer!
In principle, I agree with almost everything you wrote. But I would still like such a game)

 

[cp2020]

Sounds like you are saying Fujino wanted to make an Level 3 game but didn't make enough content to justify it. I still don't agree with your premise that the dislike for the recent update is people noticing the shift from Asuna's focus and thoughts to Inoda's since Inoda's thoughts has been shown to use for most of Part 2. At least for me, I see pretty much all the scenes with Inoda in the Recollection Room, including the new ones this update, having been about him. But of course I admit I might be the minority and other people would agree with you.

No, it's cool my friend. My aim is just to provide a perspective that may be helpful. No theory is perfect, especially the ones without research evidence.

I replied just to help make my thoughts clearer to readers, because I think I'm responsible for it as I'm the one who posted them.

Think about the well-known novel A Song of Fire and Ice: Game of Throne as an example. It has a main plot with a main focus. But many chapters (especially the beginning chapter of a section) are based on one person's POV (and this person usually dies in that chapter or section).

So POV has two main functions: To help readers/players immerse into the plot context, and to display the visible part of the story (while hiding some information). The visible part of the story may not be the main focus of the story.

For example, if we play the male MC and most things we do are to collect, explore, and analyze information about the female MC, then we can say we play in the male MC's POV but the game is more focused on the female MC.

Human brain is subtle and it can easily detect the difference between familiar/expected and unfamiliar/unexpected information (though sometimes unconsciously). When players are used to and comfortable with Level 3 content (familiar/expected information), a slight shift to a different level (unfamiliar/unexpected information) may cause heavier cognitive load and produce discomfort as a natural emotional response.

 

[leo322228]

when does he want to do the next update?

 

[mos555]

when does he want to do the next update?

We'll find out tomorrow.

 

[Oppai_King]

how do we check the poll results and stuff? Also does anyone know if dress up darling season 2 dropping affected the votes?

 

[DicksInSpace]

how do we check the poll results and stuff? Also does anyone know if dress up darling season 2 dropping affected the votes?

I hope it affected Fujino at least

 

[MioNTR]

Wait will he release polls tomorrow since it’s July no Naruto please anything but Naruto

 

[Aniky Light]

this game is like two simulators
1. how to cheat
2. how to become an egocentric asshole

 

[Infeno2.0]

About that topic Kirito cheating with other girls and that serving as a excuse for Asuna behavior, this ship already sailed long time ago with fake kirito scene, and the reception by the fans wasn't great because looked a cheap plot device used by Fujino.
That being said, it's clear the cheating Kirito will only occour if the player wants that, remember almost all his cheating scenes are tied to player decision, differently of Asuna's scenes where you going to see no matter what you do your only option in this is sometimes you get a hidden scene depending on your levels.

Fujino is lefting how kirito will behave to the player and that will have consequences, and looking the plot so far they will be probably bad for the character, he's a blank slate in this point cheating or not, of course you have his plot is running in the background for other things that may or may not are affected by the players choices, but actually these choices so far are only if you want to see the extra scene or not, with no real impact to the main story, remains to be seen if Fujino will change these mechanics and if this will affect the ending /endins or not.

The phase 1, 2 and 3 is a good concept according to the character POV, Kirito, Inoda and Asuna chapters so to speak, but i don't think that is what is happening right now, Fujino so far move the story from one plot device to next one to move the main storyline Asuna's downfall foward, is not that complex for instance the last update he said himself the only way to move foward her breakdown as using memory manipulation (time travel) altering the past to arrange the future, which is a huge plot convinence when you do that in a story you are basically reseting the whole thing, because you reach a creative dead end to conclude the story.

The way i see it, Fujino only have 4 points/goals to adress right now, Group sex, Pregnancy, Secondary characters fate and the Kirito's final revelation, the story resolution (ending) will be a byproduct of Asuna's sexual activities, the plot is moved by this since the beggining, like Asuna went from HJ to BJ you have a scenario, then the plot continues from this point just to justify the next sex scene variation , and moving the Asuna's fall plot along

About the secondary characters, people are up in arms about it, but the question is how he's going to do and one answer resides in these characters actions, one example Liz how Inoda fucked her, Rape, why because she is a Sadist so actions and reactions, Sugu if Fujino goes that route she's a stalker spy rapist so she will be discovered/confronted/druged and raped, Sinon is the dominatrix who likes to toy and humiliate, she will be played/dominated/humiliated.
Now the plot behind explain how this happen is up to Fujino, One simple example how easy is to come up with something,
Liz could very well want revenge to whoever make Inoda rape her, that was the excuse Fujino gave to Inoda that someone force him to do it, and if i'm not mistaken she does have genius sister who works i think to Rect, maybe she is in the council which make Sugu a easy target, or Inoda just need to tell her who didit and make Liz go after Sugu because he knows that was Sugu and the real reason why she did, that she want Kirito for herself because he was in the toilet jerking off when she talked abou it.

 

[MioNTR]

SAO NTR ending will it be great or Bad

 

[Aniky Light]

SAO NTR ending will it be great or Bad

It will definitely piss off

 

[Aniky Light]

About that topic Kirito cheating with other girls and that serving as a excuse for Asuna behavior, this ship already sailed long time ago with fake kirito scene, and the reception by the fans wasn't great because looked a cheap plot device used by Fujino.
That being said, it's clear the cheating Kirito will only occour if the player wants that, remember almost all his cheating scenes are tied to player decision, differently of Asuna's scenes where you going to see no matter what you do your only option in this is sometimes you get a hidden scene depending on your levels.

Fujino is lefting how kirito will behave to the player and that will have a consequence, and looking the plot so far they will be probably bad for the character, he's a blank slate in this point cheating or not, of course you have the his plot running the background for other things that may or may not be affected by the players choices, but actually these choices so far are only if you want to see the extra scene or not, with no real impact to the main story, remains to be seen if Fujino will change these mechanics and if this will affect the ending /endins or not.

The phase 1, 2 and 3 is a good concept according to the character POV, Kirito, Inoda and Asuna chapters so to speak, but i don't think that is what is happening right now, Fujino so far move the story from one plot device to next one to move the main storyline Asuna's downfall foward, is not that complex for instance the last update he said himself the only way to move foward her breakdown as using memory manipulation (time travel) altering the past to arrange the future, which is a huge plot convinence when you do that in a story you are basically reseting the whole thing, because you reach a creative dead end to conclude the story.

The way i see it, Fujino only have 4 points/goals to adress right now, Group sex, Pregnancy, Secondary characters fate and the Kirito's final revelation, the story resolution (ending) will be a byproduct of Asuna's sexual activities, the plot is moved by this since the beggining, like Asuna went from HJ to BJ you have a scenario, then the plot continues from this point just to justify the next sex scene variation , and moving the Asuna's fall plot along

About the secondary characters, people are up in arms about it, but the question is how he's going to do and one answer resides in these characters actions, one example Liz how Inoda fucked her, Rape, why because she is a Sadist so actions and reactions, Sugu if Fujino goes that route she's a stalker spy rapist so she will be discovered/confronted/druged and raped, Sinon is the dominatrix who likes toy and humiliate, she will be dominated/humiliated.
Now the plot behind explain how this happen is up to Fujino, One simple example how easy is to come up with something,
Liz could very well want revenge to whoever make Inoda rape her, that was the excuse Fujino gave to Inoda that someone force him to do it, and if i'm not mistaken she does have genius sister who works i think to Rect, maybe she is in the council which make Sugu a easy target, or Inoda just need to tell her who didit and make Liz go after Sugu because he knows that was Sugu and the real reason why she did, that she want Kirito for herself because he was in the toilet jerking off when she talked abou it.

Does Inoda know that Suguha did it? Where does this information come from? If it were true, we would have already talked about this topic, Inoda knows nothing about Suguha, not even Flora or Leafa, if he knew about Suguha he would have already acted, if someone knows that there is a girl who wants to kill you, you don't just stand still and wait, no, you will try to stop her

I want to know how the hell she knows? Is her name written there? They only saw each other once in passing and Inoda didn't even know her name

 

[kinglionheart]

Does Inoda know that Suguha did it? Where does this information come from? If it were true, we would have already talked about this topic, Inoda knows nothing about Suguha, not even Flora or Leafa, if he knew about Suguha he would have already acted, if someone knows that there is a girl who wants to kill you, you don't just stand still and wait, no, you will try to stop her

I want to know how the hell she knows? Is her name written there? They only saw each other once in passing and Inoda didn't even know her name

Inoda knows it was Suguha who drugged Liz when Liz tried to drug Kirito in the hospital because he was in the bathroom when Suguha took Liz to the room and left a note. Inoda would not tell Liz it was Suguha who drugged her and forced Inoda to rape Liz because no way Liz would believe Inoda. Liz does not trust Inoda at all. She only does not kill because Inoda because she does not know who it was that drugged her. If Inoda told Liz it was Suguha, no way Liz would believe Suguha would force Inoda to rape her. Liz does not know Suguha is a stalker yandere yet!

Liz going after Suguha is not going to happen for the simple reason of no way Liz trusts Inoda over Suguha.

how do we check the poll results and stuff? Also does anyone know if dress up darling season 2 dropping affected the votes?

We can't check the results. Only Fujino knows the results. Dress Up Darling season 2 will affect the votes. Rent-a-Girlfriend chapter 380 definitely did!

 

[Infeno2.0]

Does Inoda know that Suguha did it? Where does this information come from? If it were true, we would have already talked about this topic, Inoda knows nothing about Suguha, not even Flora or Leafa, if he knew about Suguha he would have already acted, if someone knows that there is a girl who wants to kill you, you don't just stand still and wait, no, you will try to stop her

I want to know how the hell she knows? Is her name written there? They only saw each other once in passing and Inoda didn't even know her name

I think everyone around here forgot about this plot device left by Fujino, remember when Asuna send the nude from the hotel bathrom when Kirito was in the hospital well she also send to Inoda, then he went to room next to Kirito's to jerkoff in the toilet, Sugu went there to set up the trap for Liz with the bear cam, and talked about all her plan and how nobody will touch her "onichan" besides her, the thing she didn't know, Inoda was in the same room toilet and heard/saw everething.

Liz fall into her trap and Inoda took the chance to rape her, after the rape remember Sugu call the room, telling Liz if she had learn her lesson, the only thing i think Sugu doesn't know was Inoda raping Liz after, Inoda even comment in the end "the black guy dude sister is crazy and bad ass", so Inoda doesn't know the Laefa part, but her bear cam stalking, trap and druging Liz and her fixation about Kirito he know for a while now.

And why he never use that, Fujino's choice he wasn't sure if he would make Inoda fuck her or not, but he left this plot device just in case he change his mind.