mos555

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Fujino was rightfully crowned as one of the best NTR writers.
I hope this is sarcasm, because Fujino can only be the best in a universe in which, of all the NTR writers, only Fujino remains.
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Let's be honest - "Best NTR Writer" is absolutely, as cliched as possible characters - an extremely successful bully with a big dick, a deaf and blind cuckold with a small dick, a cheating slut with a furniture character and a complete lack of critical thinking. At the same time, he borrowed someone else's title, other people's characters, uses features from other autor's NTR games, and the plot is full of holes and inconsistencies.

If this is your opinion, then you should write not "Fujino was rightfully crowned as one of the best NTR writers", but "Fujino, in my personal opinion, is the best NTR writer". It's the right thing to do. Otherwise, the question arises, by what right and where is this TOP of the best writers, where did Fujino rightfully take first place?
 

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I think this update is okay. In this version, we have two CGs, but Fujino focused more on Liz’s CG. Besides that, there are also a lot of scenes from the surveillance camera. However, it does have some issues, and he seems a bit rushed since there’s no ending for the next day.
 

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Was this game remade at some point? I see people referring to part 1 and part 2 but when I started playing it recently it seemed like an outright sequel to a game, Asuna had already had sex with Inuda. The screenshots in the post also look completely different from what the game has actually been like.

But I know its the same game because people are discussing plot points that I have played through
 

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Was this game remade at some point? I see people referring to part 1 and part 2 but when I started playing it recently it seemed like an outright sequel to a game, Asuna had already had sex with Inuda. The screenshots in the post also look completely different from what the game has actually been like.

But I know its the same game because people are discussing plot points that I have played through
Game was not remade. Part 1 was originally made like 2 years ago and Part 2 continues where Part 1 left off and is still currently being developed. Part 2 has newer ideas and "looks more refined". It's still littered with bugs, but it is what it is.

The recent update is v0.95. Also no v1.0 won't be the last one. Fujino is just adding a 0.05 to each update and will go as far/long as it takes them to finish the game. Ideally they want it done before the year ends, but we'll see how that goes.
 

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In regards to fast version, I wouldn't say it went dramatically fast. The Liz stuff is people over reacting on making her fall fast. The entire scene is explained away that her reaction is what Inoda feels/wants. Another important part about the scene is that this mind control reversal flip was setup from a long time ago. It has to do with the slave contract that Liz tricked Inoda into taking. It's a dumb contract though, because the requirements to be the dominant one is to have higher stats, so there was going to be a point in time in the future where that scenario would happen and Inoda gets the upper hand. The real blow to Liz is the short dialogue between Inoda and Kirito. If Kirito has been receptive to Liz, then Liz showcases their motivation to still pursue Kirito, but if they didn't accept her advances, she'll be dejected and more than likely go down the route of doing whatever Inoda wants.

Basically Liz doesn't really "insta fall". Also the whole fact that Liz has an outcome where she's motivated to further pursue Kirito suggests the other girls will continue pursuing Kirito as well. This assumes you let Kirito be interested in their advances.

It doesn't seem like Inoda will get action from Suguha and Sinon though. Suguha and Sinon's route might be something like they either end up with Kirito, or end up whoring themselves out to random strangers if Kirito doesn't accept their advances.

In regards to Asuna though, many complaints about mind wipe and whatever though are pretty valid all things considered, but it's whatever at this point. Rofl
Regarding Liz's downfall, it was clear from the start that Inoda would eventually be able to control her, thanks to the effect of the bracelet. When she first described the bracelet's effect, it seemed like a good idea. At the time of its release, people even praised the concept because it fit Liz's character and the overall plot.
The problem is how it was executed. Many people were guessing how Inoda would outsmart her, but what we got was Yui leading Inoda to a specific map. For some reason, the developers hadn't deleted it, and conveniently, it contained equipment that turned girls into succubi (whaaaaat?!). On top of that, Yui then altered the potion's effect to the point where its stats became superior to Liz's.
It's all too "convenient," which makes it uninteresting.
Remember how Inoda used to buy sleeping potions from a shop to have his way with Asuna? He knew the game well and would put them in disadvantageous battles just to get his hands on Asuna again.
He knew about the underground street and could have known about forbidden items. There are forbidden items like HSVA-03 (the scene where Sinon gives Kirito a blowjob). Inoda could have obtained some item or potion behind the scenes, perhaps even by contacting the council, not necessarily a high-ranking member. Those two guys who threatened Sinon were just ordinary members, yet they had access to such items.
Also, are there really no other blacksmiths in the game besides Liz? Couldn't someone in the underground have altered the bracelet's effect, added some extra conditions for it to work, or created another item that would help him? For example, a ring or a necklace that would gradually increase the wearer's affection for the person who gave it to them. This is essentially a similar item to what we ended up with, but how Inoda would have acquired it and how it would have gradually taken effect would have been much more interesting. Fujino just took the easy way out.
 

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It kinda seems like at some point along the way he lost the plot while trying to appeal to as many people as possible. When part 2 first started it made sense that Liz would be helping Inoda. It makes sense that Suguha and Sinon would be trying to take advantage of what they can tell is a weakening relationship. What doesn't make sense is the Liz/Inoda route at all. I think it makes sense that Inoda would try to get back at her once or twice but to be actively pursuing her doesn't make sense. In an attempt to appeal to both Liz and Asuna fans while also appealing to the NTR side AND appealing to Suguha and Sinon fans he's written himself into a corner.

If he sticks to his original plan he's going to have to find some way to pull a "choose Liz/choose Asuna" (Sugu and Sinon excluded because any attempt at involving them with Inoda at this point would only extend the game dev length by another year) Scenario out and where the story is currently at idk how he does that. Either way he very clearly wants to be done with this project and his ideal of "one update per month." Is taking a toll on the quality of the writing.

Going forward he really needs to involve someone else in his projects I think. A writer/editor or a coder ideally so he can focus on where he shines the most. Either that or the one update per month rule needs to be scrapped and he needs to narrow the focus of his projects.
 
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Going forward he really needs to involve someone else in his projects I think. A writer/editor or a coder ideally so he can focus on where he shines the most. Either that or the one update per month rule needs to be scrapped and he needs to narrow the focus of his projects.
You are absolutely right on that. He makes really good animated scenes, but writing a story is clearly not for him. He doesn't have a talent for storytelling.
 
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Going forward he really needs to involve someone else in his projects I think. A writer/editor or a coder ideally so he can focus on where he shines the most.
"If shit sells so well, then why hire someone who will make candy out of shit and share money with him?"
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This is just an allegory and has no direct relation to Fujino. All coincidences with real events or people are random.
 
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The last six or seven patches, beginning a few updates before the lockdown, around the time he started working at the company, have been profoundly underwhelming for me. I did not even have the motivation to finish the buggy mess that was the most recent update. The narrative has shifted abruptly from NTR elements to full-blown fantasy, both in the real world and within the SAO realm. Personally, I have not enjoyed it in the slightest. I will consider resubscribing once the game is complete to evaluate the final result, but it is not looking good. Asuna is no longer compelling or resisting in any way, reduced to little more than a slut with extra steps. It is truly a shame.
 
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A lot of the animations aren't really his though. They're just koikatsu animations he used without crediting the original animators.
It is unsurprising, given that he incorporates numerous copyrighted songs from major bands such as Arctic Monkeys and from popular anime, any of which could, with a single complaint, completely obliterate his game and place him numerous legal problems. Simply removing them would not suffice. Considering this pattern, it is also hardly surprising that he neglects to credit the animators.
 

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Okay at work after putting the box down and then seeing the surveillance of Inoda fucking Asuna in the beginning of Day 16, I'm stuck. Can't leave the floor and there is nothing else to do. Positive that this is a bug. Anyone have a save of right after you leave the floor there?
 
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Regarding Liz's downfall, it was clear from the start that Inoda would eventually be able to control her, thanks to the effect of the bracelet. When she first described the bracelet's effect, it seemed like a good idea. At the time of its release, people even praised the concept because it fit Liz's character and the overall plot.
The problem is how it was executed. Many people were guessing how Inoda would outsmart her, but what we got was Yui leading Inoda to a specific map. For some reason, the developers hadn't deleted it, and conveniently, it contained equipment that turned girls into succubi (whaaaaat?!). On top of that, Yui then altered the potion's effect to the point where its stats became superior to Liz's.
It's all too "convenient," which makes it uninteresting.
Remember how Inoda used to buy sleeping potions from a shop to have his way with Asuna? He knew the game well and would put them in disadvantageous battles just to get his hands on Asuna again.
He knew about the underground street and could have known about forbidden items. There are forbidden items like HSVA-03 (the scene where Sinon gives Kirito a blowjob). Inoda could have obtained some item or potion behind the scenes, perhaps even by contacting the council, not necessarily a high-ranking member. Those two guys who threatened Sinon were just ordinary members, yet they had access to such items.
Also, are there really no other blacksmiths in the game besides Liz? Couldn't someone in the underground have altered the bracelet's effect, added some extra conditions for it to work, or created another item that would help him? For example, a ring or a necklace that would gradually increase the wearer's affection for the person who gave it to them. This is essentially a similar item to what we ended up with, but how Inoda would have acquired it and how it would have gradually taken effect would have been much more interesting. Fujino just took the easy way out.
I going to make an theory without any real evidence. I believe Fujino gave up on interesting plot points because no one appreciates them. I am making a broad assumption that most of his fans want more sex scenes and don't stick around to find/figure out the details. We all know Fujino is capable of setting up plot points that builds up to something interesting. I still remember how Fujino hinted how Inoda got Asuna to forgive him by spreading the clues between the various NPC dialogues and Asuna's locations as Kirito moved through the maps. It was one of the coolest details I ever found in an hentai game. But I bet most people didn't understand it so Fujino had to add an scene to spell out how it happened. Since people don't play the game to get the details Fujino just decided to make quick and easy situations to move the plot along so more time can be used to make sex scenes. It is disappointing for people like us who play to find every little detail but if the majority of the people only want more sex scenes then Fujino had to prioritize his time to gave the majority of people what they want. :cry:

A lot of the animations aren't really his though. They're just koikatsu animations he used without crediting the original animators.
To be fair, while Fujino does copy animations from other works sometimes, he does recreate them with his own models. Creators does this all the time with each other's animation/model motions. For example, I seen this a lot in YouTube videos of different creators doing the same MMD dance with different characters. I am not saying it is right they copy each other's works but it is how the community works.
 
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Saturday return to the apartemen to find asuna after back to apartemen, sudenly it back to main menu, help,,,
It's a feature. The main menu CG shows what's happening while he's calling her after heading back to the apartment. I don't know if he'll actually continue from there but it was pretty evident that was done on purpose as a sort of callback. (At least I think so since replaying it over and over from a save I had always got that CG out on the menu)
 
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