Mr Technician

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But seriously, I'm not at all sure that Inoda can somehow suffer from these problems. There is only one option for real problems - if it is in the plot of one of the endings. For example, Inoda gets into trouble and can't get out, and Kirito somehow saves Asuna, but Inoda had to leave, and this is the ending where Inoda disappeared, Asuna just stays silent all her life and misses Inoda (or she's already pregnant with Inoda's child), and Kirito doesn't know anything. But the probability of this is the same as the probability that Kirito will suddenly become smarter.
So, you say they should create a healthy lovey dovey triangle for the child safety and a sound future? Yeah, i can see that coming. (pun intended, but it's still not NTR!)
 

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The truth is I don't know where that true love for INODA or ASUNA comes from when from the beginning he only had that desire to snatch CUCKITO ASUNA from him and feel pleased by that, and have her as his semen bag, there was never real love so I don't know where that comes from,
 
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Infeno2.0

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The truth is I don't know where that true love for INODA or ASUNA comes from when from the beginning he only had that desire to snatch CUCKITO ASUNA from him and feel pleased by that, and have her as his semen bag, there was never real love so I don't know where that comes from,
This "feeling real love" that part of the Fujino's fans are complaning about came from some odd choices he did in the plot.
Fujino overuse of devices, conviniences and coincidences to move the main narrative foward, like in the last update all the shenanigans about potion and slave/Succubus BS just to fast foward Liz fall, when the author can only move the plot like this the story became pointless, in fact you end up not needing a narrative, things just happen.

But the main reason was his lazy choice in physically split Kirito and Asuna, and lock her and Inoda in a room for half of the game, that kill the tension over cheating, what we had instead was Asuna just surrendering to debauchary without any fear in being caught, having to deal with any pushback or even having to explain anything, so the game in this scenario became more or less a "Vanilla lovey dovey" experience for some fans.
 
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Whitemk

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The only valid complaint about this game is that Sinon's boobs are too big. This has to be conveyed to Fujino somehow, every other complaint can be ignored.
 
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As for the “true love” between Inoda and Asuna and the "problems" for Inoda, I really think the author and the players see it differently. I'm not the only one who wrote that the scenes between Inoda and Asuna are looking more and more vanilla, even if the basis of these scenes is betrayal and lust. However, we are most often projected with the thoughts of Asuna, who may confuse lust and love, but nevertheless, she is increasingly talking about her love for Inoda. I understand that this is probably Fujino's way of showing how good Inoda is at what he does (although 90 percent is luck), but the way Asuna constantly mentions her feelings for Inoda really looks like true love.:WeSmart: Especially considering that Asuna has talked about her love for Inoda more often over the past 5-6 updates than she has about her love for Kirito in both SAO games.

As for Inoda's "problems"...

Gentlemen, can anyone believe that Inoda, Fujino's tireless, lucky pet, could have any real problems? Considering that he has all the mystical forces of this world on his side, as well as a powerful AI in the form of Yui. I don't believe it. It looks like a forced measure to scratch the backs of those fans who are unhappy that Inoda is too OP. I think Inoda won't even notice these problems, and everyone around him will solve them. Kirito, Asuna, Yui... And Inoda himself won't even scratch his ass. That's the privilege of being the author's favorite - you rape whomever you want, you cheat whomever you want, and there won't be any problems because of it. :FacePalm:

I don't want to sound sarcastic or cynical, but "writing scripts during lunch breaks"? I hope his boss never sees what Fujino writes there. :LOL: But seriously? Such problems with time? To write a script for a 30-minute update, half of the dialogues of which consist of "ah, oh, yes, call me husband, oh ah" (exaggerated) - you have to allocate a lunch break for this? :HideThePain:

Fujino urgently needs to optimize his time. This is why he has problems with sleep and mental state. Why does he earn money? I would have found myself a good psychologist and somnologist.
I was kinda expecting this, Fujino is always like that, in april he came up with 2 months interval for updates because of those very same reasons, just to do a u turn in very the next month releasing again monthly updates.
I start to see a pattern here, he make changes in the story knowing this will led to a crap update, he's blasted because of that, then he came up with some sort of personal issue or health concerns and poor time management to justify, rinse and repeat.

The reality is way simpler, he jus need the extra money from the subscriptions, that's all.

And let me see if i got this, he came up with several changes in the story just to in the end go back to his original idea for the ending, well is his story and he does whatever he likes, but he can't complain about wasted time.
 

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I disagree with Inoda's harem plan. The storyline feels unnatural. Inoda, with his pure love for Asuna, must gradually open her heart and sexually corrupt her. As a result, Asuna gradually forgets Kirito. Kirito, through his interactions with Suguha, Liz, Alice, and Sinon, becomes increasingly sexually corrupted, and ultimately, completely sexually corrupted, he forgets Asuna. I believe this is the correct ending for this game
 

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Thats why i told about shapes and sizes... Even the FOG Administrator has told something about it. That two souls can get distanced if bodies aren't compatible with each other.
It is very problematic that women are pictured this way in cultures. Like they are just some objects to be reshaped by the dick. I think it has nothing to do with that. She is true to herself, and she should. Even if that means working on the streets...
Both of the men are dumb to my taste... so dumb.

Edit: i should add reshaping means not only by big dick, but may also mean the smaller one.
I think this "reshape by dick" is nothing more than a trope in the Doujinshi Hentais, and one can say a motive for the Female character cheat and a poor excuse for plot development.
Women in those scenarios/storys almost never had any consequences for cheating if you think about it so the way the are depcited and their shite motivations are a trade off in the end.

Mind you, women in most NTR stories have only 2 narrative functions most of the time, Object of desire or Objective to someone.
 
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NTRSandman

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Fujino wants to post updates every month because he doesn't want to wait two months to receive big Money xD
The reality is way simpler, he jus need the extra money from the subscriptions, that's all.
Seriously guys, there's a lot you can criticize Fujino for, but this just ain't it.

A dev that only takes a measly 1.50$ for full early access, manages solid-sized monthly updates despite having a full-time job, and then people accuse him of greed?
Literally 99.9% of game devs on patreon either take far more money for full early access, or deliver content much slower (either smaller updates, or slower updates), in many cases both.

Nvm that each of his updates gets leaked within minutes, so nobody is forced to support him to get the updates early to begin with.
And most of his subbers probably wouldn't even bother unsubbing between updates even if he did bi-monthly (but slightly bigger) updates anyway.

If anything, I think he's rather too self-less and tries too hard to please everyone, slowly burning himself out in the process, that's why his health is getting worse.
 

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Seriously guys, there's a lot you can criticize Fujino for, but this just ain't it.

A dev that only takes a measly 1.50$ for full early access, manages solid-sized monthly updates despite having a full-time job, and then people accuse him of greed?
Literally 99.9% of game devs on patreon either take far more money for full early access, or deliver content much slower (either smaller updates, or slower updates), in many cases both.

Nvm that each of his updates gets leaked within minutes, so nobody is forced to support him to get the updates early to begin with.
And most of his subbers probably wouldn't even bother unsubbing between updates even if he did bi-monthly (but slightly bigger) updates anyway.

If anything, I think he's rather too self-less and tries too hard to please everyone, slowly burning himself out in the process, that's why his health is getting worse.
Nobody is saying Fujino is greedy or is doing that only for the money, that being said, he also dont make the game only because the kindness of his heart, let's not go there.
The thing is Fujino needs a incentive and a reward to keep going, money is good for that, his CIEN plans prices are cheap but in the end is his choice he could raise if he want to, he came public once about not making much money with the game and all, but he only talked about the Cien plans, don't forget he does have a Patreon account as well, i'm one of them for a long time and his plans are 5, 10 and 15 USD.
Have you ever noticed that he never disclose his Patreons numbers where the minimum is 5 USD, let's asume he does have 1000 patreons at 5 bucks a pop is 5 grand a month minus the Patreon share, not too shabby.

Cien alone he does have 42.000 followers so 1000 on patreon is not so far-fetched, either way for him force himself like he does has to be something more than passion for a porn game.
 
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Hello, I have the bug where the chicken ask if I want to see a more realistic world in loop.
I see people here saying to not use an old save but I'm not using any save at all, I'm juste trying to start a new game from the beggining.
What should I do ?
 

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Hello, I have the bug where the chicken ask if I want to see a more realistic world in loop.
I see people here saying to not use an old save but I'm not using any save at all, I'm juste trying to start a new game from the beggining.
What should I do ?
See my post here:

This error seems to be getting caused anytime the Lust stat is changed and you view Asuna's State menu. So if the Lust stat is greyed out because the real hidden value is different from the known value, it will cause this softlock.

I tested it by using variable editing to make changes to all variables on the page one by one and see if/when any cause this error, and Lust was the only one.

This bug is STILL PRESENT after the bug fix (I don't think it was being reported early enough to make it into the bug fix.), so if you plan to check her "State" page, save before you do. If the lust stat is greyed out, load your save to before you entered that menu page.

You can manually prevent this softlock by finding the real Lust value and copying that into the known Lust value. It seems the game logic only really is directly checking the two values against each other to figure out if they are equal or not, so there's no other variables or switches involved in that page.
TL;DR, don't look at stat page if the lust value changes. Either way until you can use shrine to update it or just use an editor program like MTool to force them to match.

If you're going to use MTool or another program to edit the variables, the one you want to change is variable 7. The one you want to match to is variable 31. MTool is useful because you can edit it live while you're playing, so if you end up looking at her state screen and you see the lust stat is greyed, just pull up the variable tab on MTool, change the variable, then you're good (might need to close and reopen the state screen without fully closing the pause menu, not sure)
 
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Oberon, who held Asuna captive (for a month, six months, a year?) and couldn't even fuck her, against, Fujino's golden boy - Inoda? Don't make me laugh.
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This is why including Sugou/Oberon just made him extra-laughable...in canon this made sense because despite what most NTR writers think, Sugou Nobuyuki NEVER really actually cared about Asuna sexually in particular, he considered her a pretty trophy but wasn't desperate or in any hurry to turn her into a fuck toy because his true ambition what his shitty (And flawed) brainwashing technology, Fujino's Oberon that genuinely wanted to fuck Asuna stupid not doing so day 1 that he had her trapped makes him unironically seems more like a loser cuck than Fujino's Kirito XD


The truth is I don't know where that true love for INODA or ASUNA comes from when from the beginning he only had that desire to snatch CUCKITO ASUNA from him and feel pleased by that, and have her as his semen bag, there was never real love so I don't know where that comes from,
Is because of Inoda's own words, or delusions more like, remember that he has been spouting nonsense about loving Asuna and her being his wife since the very beginning, it's VERY obvious that he just wants her to be his fuck-toy (As his nonchalancy about fucking every other girl he wants if he can shows), but his own words somehow tricked even the players lmao :p
 

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Is because of Inoda's own words, or delusions more like, remember that he has been spouting nonsense about loving Asuna and her being his wife since the very beginning, it's VERY obvious that he just wants her to be his fuck-toy (As his nonchalancy about fucking every other girl he wants if he can shows), but his own words somehow tricked even the players lmao :p
It's not about what Inoda says. We already knew that he was a psychopath and that love was impossible for him. Inoda pursues only lustful desires.

What about Asuna? Even in the latest update, when Asuna walks around the hotel room and comments on the things that are there, she constantly talks about her "lover piggy". Of course, there is no voice acting in this game, and I can't find out what intonation Asuna is speaking with, but it looked like a manifestation of love and tenderness towards Inoda. From the very beginning of the game, even from the first part, Asuna did not show such love for Kirito as she now shows for Inoda. No matter what the statistics say, and no matter how Fujino tries to downplay the scale of events, Asuna is very vanilla towards Inoda and very cold towards Kirito, even though she says "I love you" in the morning. I absolutely do not believe in these words, but for some reason I believe in the words of tenderness for Inoda.

Of course, this is my personal view of the situation, but I don't think I'm the only one who sees it that way, because it's because of Asuna's attitude towards Inoda and Kirito that there's been talk that the game has become too vanilla. Due to the long-distance relationship and Asuna's general distance from Kirito, if you add the "memory change" to it, I just don't see any love relationship between them. But the relationship of the "newlyweds" between Asuna and Inoda is very noticeable. This also kills NTR in the game. But Asuna's loving attitude towards Inoda is very noticeable, as is her disregard for Kirito. Maybe Fujino didn't want it to happen that way, but it turned out that way.:FacePalm:

Of course, Fujino can see in his own way and try to convey to us how he sees it, but I can't know exactly what the author really meant, so I only judge by what I see.
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