RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[mos555]

Merging ideas from other sources to create a new product is a new original product.

If these words help Fujino justify himself in court, when ASCII Media Works, Reki Kawahara, as well as the owners of the rights to the music he uses, sue him, I will be the first to stand up and applaud how Fujino competently stood on the shoulders of a giant.

Standing on the shoulders of giants

This phrase implies that a person will do, discover, or create something new using other people's ideas or discoveries. What did Fujino create? Nothing. He just plagiarized the ideas, but I don't see a single new element in his game, really new, about which you can say, "It was invented by Fujino!" Stats, perks, sex during combat (I won't belittle it, Fujino did it very well, but the idea is not new), phone, peeping through the camera, MC gets into the gallery of scenes during sleep (Nebel Geisterjager and a couple more games), even small animations in the game menu, all this was before. Do you have at least one new idea?

 

[gaka200]

I see. So, from the game perspective. This would be possible if mixed reality is created. Like a bridge from real world to FOG. Why i get the feeling Yui might be involved into that... Does the Council know about her existence in FOG?

No clue on if the council knows about Yui, but the Administrator definitely knows about Yui. She keeps referencing Yui to Kirito, and how Yui is important to whatever the heck the Administrator wants to do.

That app that lets you pray to unlock Asuna's stats—when did it appear? Was it before Quinella gave Kirito the gift or after? If it's after, then it makes me think that's Quinella's gift.

Anyway, it's just a hypothesis.

The only plausible theory is that Fujino included the app for the players' convenience, but then why didn't he do it sooner?

I don't think there's any story explanation, and it might be that Fujino never thought to consider it. Maybe someone on CI-EN or Patreon complained about it, and Fujino thought to themself "oh, maybe that sounds like a good idea". I'm not at home to check it out, but if the "prayer app" is available in the earlier parts of the game, then it's probably just some QoL added just recently for v0.951.

Yes, but why we need to update it anyway? Is this required at all if she's gonna do her life by her own anyway? And we do not have many choices anyway... Because you see i have this strange feeling, like let it be on its own... We don't know if she is good or bad. It's like feeding unknown entity but you don't know what it's gonna do, or do not know the outcome.
Thats my point here.

The praying doesn't actually do anything towards Asuna, it's just a mechanic so the player (you) are able to see how much Asuna has been doing behind Kirito's back. It'll update the sexual experiences if you want to read them, and it'll showcase what the affection rating Asuna has towards Kirito and Inoda. I think it's just some mechanic for players to further enjoy the mystery of what's happening behind closed doors, and for those that don't want to do that, they can just constantly do the prayer/real option and keep updating the stat sheet.

But yeah, the prayer mechanic is probably doing nothing story wise to the Administrator.

 

[gaka200]

Fujino choose to use SAO as his basis because it is an popular franchise with existing fans. So yes, he is milking an cash cow, which is what I meant.

I was not saying he is trying to prolong his game to get more money out of his followers. But it has been prolonged. Maybe because of bad planning, negative feedback, etc he had to retcon and add new plot devices. Which snowballs into increasing nonsensical story but he invested too much to just stop.

Oh! Got it!
I would say bad planning is the retcon stuff. I still believe the polls had less of an affect on how Part 2 played out than people thought. But yeah, bad planning, since Fujino did mention they were initially going to end the game around where Part 1 was heading, but changed their mind and wanted to do something on a larger scale. Basically just running into the whole "creator's dilemma" and they increased the scope, which created all kinds of weird plans.

This snowball is an interesting and amusing ride. Hopefully on Fujino's next project they plan it out better.

 

[Watters]

I keep getting this error when trying to view the new content. Even the old chapter where they're exploring SAO memories has the same error.

 

[BAIZAN]

Does anyone know why my frames are dropping? It's not just in SAO

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Does anyone know why my frames are dropping? It's not just in SAO

If it's not just in this game it may be a problem for you, but being fair? This game has terrible optimization, it seems nothing short of a top gaming computer suffers terrible frame drops when the text on the side of the screen happens, and lately even when some animations start (Probably from how big the game has gotten XP)

 

[Godem Graphics]

If these words help Fujino justify himself in court, when ASCII Media Works, Reki Kawahara, as well as the owners of the rights to the music he uses, sue him, I will be the first to stand up and applaud how Fujino competently stood on the shoulders of a giant.

This phrase implies that a person will do, discover, or create something new using other people's ideas or discoveries. What did Fujino create? Nothing. He just plagiarized the ideas, but I don't see a single new element in his game, really new, about which you can say, "It was invented by Fujino!" Stats, perks, sex during combat (I won't belittle it, Fujino did it very well, but the idea is not new), phone, peeping through the camera, MC gets into the gallery of scenes during sleep (Nebel Geisterjager and a couple more games), even small animations in the game menu, all this was before. Do you have at least one new idea?

The story is effectively the new element/idea. The combination of those into a single game is new.

It won't stand up in court, but mostly because it uses character's like Asuna which use characters in an existing franchise. It is otherwise, a fairly original work.

But using features found elsewhere isn’t exactly how anyone considers originality either. That’s my entire point. Your particular combination of ideas is original. This is a parody, but likely not under the definition of what courts use. Again, it’s just the story that’s original (as well as the particular character Inoda).

 

[Asura066]

What exactly is this update (september 2025) I got stuck after taking the package down to the warehouse. I think its a bug.

You will have to download the patch to update it. It is a bug and there are couple of them throughout the game.

 

[mos555]

The story is effectively the new element/idea. The combination of those into a single game is new.

It won't stand up in court, but mostly because it uses character's like Asuna which use characters in an existing franchise. It is otherwise, a fairly original work.

But using features found elsewhere isn’t exactly how anyone considers originality either. That’s my entire point. Your particular combination of ideas is original. This is a parody, but likely not under the definition of what courts use. Again, it’s just the story that’s original (as well as the particular character Inoda).

Inoda can be called original only in terms of the fact that he was not in the original SAO, but from the point of view of literary originality - firstly, Inoda is Masaru from Scars of Summer(the appearance, image and plot of the first part are completely the same), and secondly, it is a collective image of NTR ugly bastard.

So, it cannot be said that Inoda is a completely fictional Fujino and a completely original (there are no analogues in other sources) character.

As for the story in this game, if Fujino had taken a time period that would completely exclude the events of the original novel, for example, Asuna and Kirito went to America, and developed his own completely fictional story, then it could claim some originality.

But Fujino boldly uses locations, markers, characters of the original SAO, one way or another using what we know - who this character is, where this house is located, or what happened 2 years ago. So, Fujino's story doesn't pretend to be any special originality either. The story itself doesn't work well. Who hasn't watched or read SAO, doesn't understand - what kind of Aincrad? What kind of Oberon? What is remarkable about the hut on the 22nd floor? Are Asuna and Kirito really a pair of lovers? With so many plot gaps that rely on knowledge from the plot of the SAO novel, how can this story be called original? The characters have no idea, no backstory-how do we know who Liz is and why she communicates with them? Ahhh, we should have at least watched the first season of SAO to understand who Liz is, who Yui is, who Klein is, who Agil is? Then, just in case, watch Fairy Dance and GGO to understand who Suguha and Sinon are. Without a backstory, all these people are just not very convincing characters who are pretty badly woven into the story.

You might say that the Council is a completely original idea by Fujino, but what the hell is that enough to call the story original? I don't think so...

 

[Infeno2.0]

Reading your post made me realize how hard it is for people to truly understand each other.

If releasing a small update really helps funding that much, then all those creators who "go months (even years) without updating but still happily take the donations" must be saints who see cash as dirt.
Fujino’s explanation makes sense to me—he’s just a passionate creator who cares deeply about his work and wants feedback from his fans. That’s why he pushes himself to update almost every month.

This is his story, and he can write it however he wants. But he also feels responsible to the fans who’ve been supporting him all along. So what he said felt more like a statement: if you don’t like where the story is going, maybe it’s time to think about whether you want to keep supporting him.

Anyway, I think Fujino is hardworking, responsible, and under a lot of pressure. I’ll keep trusting and supporting him.

How people see the world often says a lot about who they are on the inside.

It's not a lack of interpersonal understanding or should i say "empathy", it's more a evaluation about actions and reasons based upon what we see and on what it's said by Fujino.

Does he care about his fans? Possibily, but like you said "he also feels responsible to the fans who’ve been supporting him" is nothing more than a comercial transaction, he make a product and whoever want said product pay him for it.
I support him because i enjoy the product that he offers that's all, that dosen't mean he's above criticism.
Fujino, does have a "thin skin" he does not take critics very well although addressing them, but he always came with the same reasons as excuses, like this time.
In the end the question persists, if this game development is so exaustive and tedious why bother to continue, let's face it passion, responsibility, work ethics are good reasons, but i doubt these are the only reasons.
Talking about empathy, i was ok with his idea of 2 months update schedule, this would be good for his personal life and a better time development for the game, he was the one who backtrack that.
The problem is the bar is way too low with Patreon developers, that anyone who does the basic like delivering updates in a somewhat constant pace and reports once a week is off the charts.

 

[aqs21f]

I don't know about Inoda being a generic "Ugly Bastard" trope. I kinda thought that unlike most other NTR games I played here the antagonist guy in scenes mostly looks like some average albeit short and a bit overweight dude, which was actually a plus for me, as ugly bastard trope got quite old. Sure characters talk about how he stinks, but I can't smell the game, so that part is just a hearsay for me.

 

[Infeno2.0]

The story is effectively the new element/idea. The combination of those into a single game is new.

It won't stand up in court, but mostly because it uses character's like Asuna which use characters in an existing franchise. It is otherwise, a fairly original work.

But using features found elsewhere isn’t exactly how anyone considers originality either. That’s my entire point. Your particular combination of ideas is original. This is a parody, but likely not under the definition of what courts use. Again, it’s just the story that’s original (as well as the particular character Inoda).

The problem with this aproach is how much of these combination of ideas is original?
He just introduce 1 or 2 original characters and the NTR concept, but there's too much canon elements padding the bulk of the story, Fujino just shuffle them togheter.

 

[Mr Technician]

Wait a minute... Did CucKirito actually tried to sleep while being in FOG game? For what i see every time he takes of FOG device and only goes to sleep in his "real life". Why is that so? He is afraid of something?

 

[erokinng]

Can anyone give an "easy" fux to this fucking bug that puts you in a fucking loop whete the damn chicken just keeps on asking the same shit over and over?, i am on joiplay and still unable to bug fix it for the lastest update

See my post here:

This error seems to be getting caused anytime the Lust stat is changed and you view Asuna's State menu. So if the Lust stat is greyed out because the real hidden value is different from the known value, it will cause this softlock.

I tested it by using variable editing to make changes to all variables on the page one by one and see if/when any cause this error, and Lust was the only one.

This bug is STILL PRESENT after the bug fix (I don't think it was being reported early enough to make it into the bug fix.), so if you plan to check her "State" page, save before you do. If the lust stat is greyed out, load your save to before you entered that menu page.

You can manually prevent this softlock by finding the real Lust value and copying that into the known Lust value. It seems the game logic only really is directly checking the two values against each other to figure out if they are equal or not, so there's no other variables or switches involved in that page.

TL;DR, don't look at state page if the lust value changes (always save before entering state page in case it has changed since you last looked). If you use MTool or a save edit program, you can manually change variable 7 to match variable 31 to bypass this issue. Otherwise, just don't open the state page ever until you get a chance to use shrine to update stats in game.

What exactly is this update (september 2025) I got stuck after taking the package down to the warehouse. I think its a bug.

Download the patch, should be linked on the top post. In the "Others" part.

 

[900bs]

I keep getting this error when trying to view the new content. Even the old chapter where they're exploring SAO memories has the same error. View attachment 5254945

https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...led-magic-v0-9-51-fujino.154352/post-18046454

 

[Jazo420]

does the update end on 7/18 just when kirito is about to go upstairs to his apartment? or is it a bug that it instantly sends me to the title screen?

 

[Aniky Light]

does the update end on 7/18 just when kirito is about to go upstairs to his apartment? or is it a bug that it instantly sends me to the title screen?

Update ends like that

 

[AKIRA PARK]

Based on the last report are we getting a update at the end of September month

 

[Aniky Light]

Based on the last report are we getting a update at the end of September month

yes, but it will be a small update

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Inoda can be called original only in terms of the fact that he was not in the original SAO, but from the point of view of literary originality - firstly, Inoda is Masaru from Scars of Summer(the appearance, image and plot of the first part are completely the same), and secondly, it is a collective image of NTR ugly bastard.
View attachment 5255211
So, it cannot be said that Inoda is a completely fictional Fujino and a completely original (there are no analogues in other sources) character.

As for the story in this game, if Fujino had taken a time period that would completely exclude the events of the original novel, for example, Asuna and Kirito went to America, and developed his own completely fictional story, then it could claim some originality.

But Fujino boldly uses locations, markers, characters of the original SAO, one way or another using what we know - who this character is, where this house is located, or what happened 2 years ago. So, Fujino's story doesn't pretend to be any special originality either. The story itself doesn't work well. Who hasn't watched or read SAO, doesn't understand - what kind of Aincrad? What kind of Oberon? What is remarkable about the hut on the 22nd floor? Are Asuna and Kirito really a pair of lovers? With so many plot gaps that rely on knowledge from the plot of the SAO novel, how can this story be called original? The characters have no idea, no backstory-how do we know who Liz is and why she communicates with them? Ahhh, we should have at least watched the first season of SAO to understand who Liz is, who Yui is, who Klein is, who Agil is? Then, just in case, watch Fairy Dance and GGO to understand who Suguha and Sinon are. Without a backstory, all these people are just not very convincing characters who are pretty badly woven into the story.

You might say that the Council is a completely original idea by Fujino, but what the hell is that enough to call the story original? I don't think so...

That image of the 'NTR Rangers' never stops making me laugh XD

I don't know about Inoda being a generic "Ugly Bastard" trope. I kinda thought that unlike most other NTR games I played here the antagonist guy in scenes mostly looks like some average albeit short and a bit overweight dude, which was actually a plus for me, as ugly bastard trope got quite old. Sure characters talk about how he stinks, but I can't smell the game, so that part is just a hearsay for me.

This is actually partially a fail of the Koikatsu engine being used for the game's animations and scenes, funnily enough: Fujino himself DID state from the beginning that Inoda is supposed to be fat and ugly, and only slightly less so in-game, he has said so many times and you can still see it in some of the oldest animations, but the issue is that using KK means you have to use a lot of borrowed scenes and replacing the female characters in them is way easier than replacing the male one, without tweaks there is no way Inoda's fat ass shape could replay the scenes well without lots of clipping that would take Fujino ages to fix, which is why if you actually pay attention, a lot of Inoda sex scenes that don't show his face or the back of his head are actually completely different models that have been vaguely edited to look a bit more like him, which is why he seems to randomly gain and lose fatness in certain sex scenes and suddenly gain muscles in others despite constantly stating how he's still useless for any real physical activity in and out of the game (Liz, a blacksmith who barely does quests outisde the town unlike him who is constantly mooching exp. from Kirito and Asuna's adventures, is STILL able to beat him up easily this late in the plot without any broken equipment on, after all XP). Unless it's for sex, then he suddenly has both infinite stamina and strength, but that's just par of the course for the inconsistency of NTR plots

If you wanna remind how ugly and disgusting Inoda is, load Part 1 and burn your eyes with the very first Inoda animation of the game, which is him alone masturbating to pictures of Asuna in his bed. You will need bleach brain afterwards, but you can properly remember all of his canonical fat, stinky and ugly glory with it :3

The problem with this aproach is how much of these combination of ideas is original?
He just introduce 1 or 2 original characters and the NTR concept, but there's too much canon elements padding the bulk of the story, Fujino just shuffle them togheter.

And he's not even doing it properly, anyone who actually knows SAO to any real degree can tell you the amount of plot-holes and direct contradictions not only with the characters but even the basic mechanics of how the SAOverse work have been shat on since early part 1 and have only multiplied constantly in Part 2, even if we ignore things that have been outright changed for the sake of the NTR plot and nothing else like Kirito moving out of home despite how retarded that is or some characters being and not being present in general :3

Wait a minute... Did CucKirito actually tried to sleep while being in FOG game? For what i see every time he takes of FOG device and only goes to sleep in his "real life". Why is that so? He is afraid of something?

Case and point to what I said here, this is entirely for the plot's sake: Fujino likes having Kirito say some small things before sleeping a lot, so he adds those scenes for the sake of it despite how dumb they can be. In Canon SAO, you can actually perfectly fall asleep inside a FullDive Game world and your AmuSphere will detect it and automatically log you off with no issues so you seamlessly transition to sleeping for real in your bed without needing to log out, in fact a lot of people (The main cast included) do this a lot after finishing quests at night for convenience's sake :3 (Funniest shit, the AmuSpheres' safeties, despite being one the most relevant reasons for Canon's plot on how VR gaming could still even keep going after the SAO incident, are the most ignored canon fact in SAO Hentai of all kinds, you could NEVER be able to even grope, let alone rape, someone playing with an AmuSphere, not only would you actually FEEL it the moment they started touching your body as the thing doesn't fully block all sensation unlike the original NerveGear exactly for that, the safety also would immediately log you out the moment your body felt any intense enough sensation from outside intereference, even trying to tie someone up would be enough for the thing to get your ass out of the game with a warning of danger screaming at your face XD)