RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

This would be a great idea. Imagine how pissed both Kirito and Inoda would be if they find out what Asuna has become. I think Inoda would take out his frustration on Kyouko by endlessly fucking her, while Kirito would do the same with Suguha. There are just so many possibilities here.

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Fujino has already repeteadly stated this won't happen and even pointed out the overall negative reaction when he tried to gauge people's ideas to Asuna become just an open whore with the 'nightmare' Kirito had about her becoming the gang's slut, so yeah, no, no matter which ending you get, Asuna is gonna be Inoda's slut only in the end, that's about the only thing Fujino has kept adamant on no matter how many changes he made to the plot XP

 

[Mr Technician]

Fujino has already repeteadly stated this won't happen and even pointed out the overall negative reaction when he tried to gauge people's ideas to Asuna become just an open whore with the 'nightmare' Kirito had about her becoming the gang's slut, so yeah, no, no matter which ending you get, Asuna is gonna be Inoda's slut only in the end, that's about the only thing Fujino has kept adamant on no matter how many changes he made to the plot XP

So, it is decided. No matter how Fujino will do it - she will be never a real Sow. He can do whatever now or call her whatever. He, by his Golden Boy failed in that case to my eyes. She stays just as a Sex Addict. Nothing more.
And that's not what i expected.

 

[kinglionheart]

I'm kinda skeptical about Fujino not letting other guys lay a hand on Asuna.
Sure, he's said multiple times that Asuna belongs only to Inoda, but he still made that scene where Kirito dreams about Asuna having sex with a black guy. And in the recent updates, it's clear that other men are starting to make moves on Asuna.
So here's my theory: Fujino might be planning some bad-end branching storylines where Asuna could get raped by other men, leading to a game over.

I highly doubt it. Fujino has been VERY vocal about Asuna not having men other than Kirito and Inoda. He literally screamed in one of the pigeon messages Sogou didn't rape Asuna. Since that is what we all assumed that is what happens when he had her at his mercy. It is only of the plot points he has not changed since the beginning.

 

[Mr Technician]

This would be a great idea. Imagine how pissed both Kirito and Inoda would be if they find out what Asuna has become. I think Inoda would take out his frustration on Kyouko by endlessly fucking her, while Kirito would do the same with Suguha. There are just so many possibilities here.

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If he won't do it (maybe not 'exactly' like this...) this game is toasted. Good decision to end the game. Maybe he decided because of the reason he don't want to do it, and keep his version of Asuna to himself. Disappointing as f.

 

[mos555]

If he won't do it (maybe not 'exactly' like this...) this game is toasted. Good decision to end the game. Maybe he decided because of the reason he don't want to do it, and keep his version of Asuna to himself. Disappointing as f.

Fujino explained this by saying that fans don't like group sex (it's hard to believe). But in fact, if Inoda is Fujino's self-insert, then this explains almost everything. For Fujino, this is a Netori game, but imagine how difficult it is for him to make scenes of Asuna and Kirito. It's like he's NTRed, in his own NTR game.

 

[Mr Technician]

Fujino explained this by saying that fans don't like group sex (it's hard to believe). But in fact, if Inoda is Fujino's self-insert, then this explains almost everything. For Fujino, this is a Netori game, but imagine how difficult it is for him to make scenes of Asuna and Kirito. It's like he's NTRed, in his own NTR game.

I know what you mean. If he imagines himself there - fecking Asuna as Inoda - he does not want to stomach even making those scenes. Which is an absurd in NTR like game. You have to have what it takes to make a game like this. If he vomits on just the thoughts - he should make it a different game. To tell you the truth - it is boring.
By the way, i don't buy his BS about multiple characters sex scenes. They are hot as f in any NTR like game. Moreover, in any respectful NTR game - that leads to finishing game like this. This is exactly why those NTR like games are not boring!
I was wondering why he doesn't do more of those scenes. But now when i know the possible reason behind this - i am fecking disappointed. Maaan...

 

[mos555]

I know what you mean. If he imagines himself there - fecking Asuna as Inoda - he does not want to stomach even making those scenes. Which is an absurd in NTR like game. You have to have what it takes to make a game like this. If he vomits on just the thoughts - he should make it a different game. To tell you the truth - it is boring.
By the way, i don't buy his BS about multiple characters sex scenes. They are hot as f in any NTR like game. Moreover, in any respectful NTR game - that leads to finishing game like this. This is exactly why those NTR like games are not boring!
I was wondering why he doesn't do more of those scenes. But now when i know the possible reason behind this - i am fecking disappointed. Maaan...

Well, we can't fully judge what's going on in Fujino's head. This is just a superficial conclusion from what he says. That he's happy with his Inoda persona, that he sometimes feels like Inoda, that he likes the Asuna he created (the stupid hypocrite who turned into Inoda's vanilla lover? Ahem, yes....).

And as for group sex, here we can consider Fujino reaction to 2 events. In the case of group sex, he reacted to the fans' opinions and, judging by everything, refused these scenes, but in the case of harsh criticism of rape scenes, for some reason Fujino either remained silent or said that this was considered quite normal and he did not see anything harsh, as a lot of NTR games use scenes of rape.

Group sex vs. rape.

Both topics were criticized, but for some reason one topic really hurt him, as I think, because it would be other men besides Inoda (a hypocrite, because Fujino did not say anything about the rejection of group sex between Asuna, Liz, Kyoko and Inoda), and he studiously ignored the other topic, apparently because the rapist - Inoda.

I understand that Fujino sees Inoda as his only brainchild in this game, but such an obsessive attitude towards Inoda basically only spoils the game. In other games, the impersonality of NTR bullies did not interfere with high-quality storytelling, whether it was the standard Mayor of the Village, or the Son of the Mayor of the Village, or a crowd of homeless people, because in NTR games - main thing is the process, not the characters. But in SAO, Fujino strongly favors his character, even almost completely canceled any interactions of the real couple in the game, Asuna and Kirito, so that it would affect Inoda (and apparently Fujino himself) as little as possible. The quarantine arch is a real feast of vanilla interaction, in which Kirito does not interfere at all and does not fuck Asuna.

I do not know how other players see it, but my personal opinion is that everything is too focused on making Inoda feel good, and not on the real meaning of the game - jealousy, loss, generally NTR.

 

[Mr Technician]

... I do not know how other players see it, but my personal opinion is that everything is too focused on making Inoda feel good, and not on the real meaning of the game - jealousy, loss, generally NTR.

I only like the Administrator for now. Quinella. She seems to be the driving force of Corruption in FOG. However, i am curious if she is also plotting with Asuna and Inoda. Which i don't know. I am suspecting it, because she have said she has got another Champion (probably Inoda, but i am not sure if him only).

Edit: Champion - someone who feeds her with a lot of Anxiety (human affairs)? Not sure how this works, thinking of it as same as dark spirits feeding on emotions maybe. Was also thinking how it would work or be done by the other Champion she spoke of. It would make sense if it was Asuna which anxiety would be based on Kirito knowing she fecks with Inoda or not. That could also work for Quinella i think. But for the Golden Boy only anxiety he has got would be if he gets again into Asuna pants or not...

 

[Queen_Nothing]

I highly doubt it. Fujino has been VERY vocal about Asuna not having men other than Kirito and Inoda. He literally screamed in one of the pigeon messages Sogou didn't rape Asuna. Since that is what we all assumed that is what happens when he had her at his mercy. It is only of the plot points he has not changed since the beginning.

You're right, but for a while it was VERY HEAVILY IMPLIED he went all the way, until the creator himself stepped in to debunk it.

There's also the point of was it rape? Maybe it wasn't knowing Asuna.

 

[SilentLuix]

Scene suggestion just popped in my head and I just wanted to get on here before ideas goes away:

Yui decides she wants to normalize calling Inoda papa and then through whatever means plot deems necessary finds out Kirito is starting to have an NTR/cuck fetish and figures a way to get what she wants. She then gives Kirito a “trial/quest” which has Kirito in a bedroom sit on a chair and watch as a couple who’s eyes are censored fuck in front of him. His goal is simple not to cum while watching but fails miserably it then becomes a repeat quest for him. Could just start of as him watching videos of previous scenes since Yui has access to Asuna’s memories but basically the end goal is it leads up to him watching Asuna and Inoda fuck in front of him without the censor, he thinks it’s a trial just his mind playing tricks on him but it’s definitely not.

Fujino doesn't care too much about Kirito to have him slowly have a chair-cuck fetish. And Yui doesn't care about Kirito at all too, so she would be pretty blunt and just show him Asuna's memory.

But I think a way to make this happen more naturally with the existing story is to keep corrupting Kirito with other women.
We need him to have actual sex with Suguha and Liz, then Kirito after doing it with Liz he ask her about Inoda because he thought there was something between them. So Liz takes that opportunity and invite Kirito to a double date (Kirito+Asuna and Inoda+Liz). A few drinks after or some deus ex machina, when Kirito gain consciousness, he's fucking Liz and on the other bed is Inoda fucking Asuna. At this point while he is surprised, he's too intoxicated and corrupted to stop fucking Liz. As the night goes, by watching them he start feeling more aroused, Liz thinks it's about fucking her but in reality is about watching Inoda fucking Asuna.

 

[kinglionheart]

You're right, but for a while it was VERY HEAVILY IMPLIED he went all the way, until the creator himself stepped in to debunk it.

There's also the point of was it rape? Maybe it wasn't knowing Asuna.

It wasn't even about rape or not. It was whether Sugou fucked Asuna.

Looking in hindsight, the implication that Sugou fucked Asuna was there but it was all our assumption. Nothing in the game that directly confirmed it. The first time we got information about Sugou was the dream in Part 1 where he raped Asuna. But that could have been Kirito's fears or assumptions. The second time was when Kirito was exploring the Council's files and found videos of Sugou molesting Asuna. But that was just molesting not fucking. The third time was when we found the note in the hospital saying Asuna suffered sexual trauma so she repressed her memories and may be more susceptible to sexual pressure (lucky Inoda).

With all that we all assumed Sugou raped her because that is what happens in porn but it was nothing concrete. Fujino then had to clarify Sugou did not have sex with Asuna so the promise of Asuna only being with Kirito and Inoda stays true.

 

[ron34]

I do not know how other players see it, but my personal opinion is that everything is too focused on making Inoda feel good, and not on the real meaning of the game - jealousy, loss, generally NTR.

This is what's wrong with the game. Playing as Kirito only serves to move Inoda and Asuna's story forward. There is no mystery anymore. Whatever happened to the illusions that Kirito was having? The priest story was cut, and mention about what goes in the church in the second game never materialized. It's an NTR game, but it hardly feels like it anymore.

 

[Deleted member 9536489]

I've noticed very different perspectives about this game between here, Patreon, CI-EN, and other Chinese forums. From what I've gathered in this thread, people here don't seem to mind much as long as they're getting good Inoda x Asuna content, and maybe even some Suguha x Kirito content. But over on those forums, people are asking for some really extreme stuff. They literally want a humiliation ritual for Kirito.

I actually think this difference is a good thing, since most of the players who follow this game come from this thread. Even though Fujino sensei's original main fanbase was from China when he started, I've noticed that people here and on Patreon are a lot more tolerant compared to many of those Chinese fans.

If Fujino sensei ever decides to quit making games, I genuinely believe the biggest reason would be that group of fans who aren't supportive or considerate of what he's going through ever since he moved to Japan. I don't know if Fujino sensei ever lurks here, but just in case he does, I want to say this: Please don't give up because of them, Fujino sensei! You have even more fans here now than you ever did back when your audience was mostly from China. And to leave you with some encouragement: "A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because you can't gain something without sacrificing something in return. But if you can endure that pain and push forward, you'll find the strength to create something truly priceless."

 

[Aniky Light]

I've noticed very different perspectives about this game between here, Patreon, CI-EN, and other Chinese forums. From what I've gathered in this thread, people here don't seem to mind much as long as they're getting good Inoda x Asuna content, and maybe even some Suguha x Kirito content. But over on those forums, people are asking for some really extreme stuff. They literally want a humiliation ritual for Kirito.

I actually think this difference is a good thing, since most of the players who follow this game come from this thread. Even though Fujino sensei's original main fanbase was from China when he started, I've noticed that people here and on Patreon are a lot more tolerant compared to many of those Chinese fans.

If Fujino sensei ever decides to quit making games, I genuinely believe the biggest reason would be that group of fans who aren't supportive or considerate of what he's going through ever since he moved to Japan. I don't know if Fujino sensei ever lurks here, but just in case he does, I want to say this: Please don't give up because of them, Fujino sensei! You have even more fans here now than you ever did back when your audience was mostly from China. And to leave you with some encouragement: "A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because you can't gain something without sacrificing something in return. But if you can endure that pain and push forward, you'll find the strength to create something truly priceless."

He once replied on this site, but I don't remember if it was in this thread or in his other games, I only remember that it was winter and if I were to look for his comment in this thread, it would be suicide and if it can't be found, he probably deleted it and maybe he also changed his name so as not to be inundated with questions

 

[mos555]

If Fujino sensei ever decides to quit making games, I genuinely believe the biggest reason would be that group of fans who aren't supportive or considerate of what he's going through ever since he moved to Japan. I don't know if Fujino sensei ever lurks here, but just in case he does, I want to say this: Please don't give up because of them, Fujino sensei! You have even more fans here now than you ever did back when your audience was mostly from China. And to leave you with some encouragement: "A lesson without pain is meaningless. That's because you can't gain something without sacrificing something in return. But if you can endure that pain and push forward, you'll find the strength to create something truly priceless."

Support is important, as long as it is neutral support. But most of the fandom doesn't just support Fujino, but demands some kind of preference for themselves, since Fujino sells this game for money. I mean, a person who puts other people's desires above their abilities (physical or mental) often breaks down quickly. Fujino wouldn't have to comply with fan requests at all, whether it was group sex or Alice's appearance in the game. Now that people realize that they can push through Fujino, they start pushing more. And in general, I doubt that Fujino will stop making games. No one wants to go back to a time when you don't have money, the amount of which is even more than you can earn in an official job. People get on the needle of the Patreon very quickly. There have been many cases when seemingly successful creators start posting complete shit, simply because they don't want to get off the needle, and the ideas and desire to do something have already run out.

 

[mos555]

He once replied on this site, but I don't remember if it was in this thread or in his other games, I only remember that it was winter and if I were to look for his comment in this thread, it would be suicide and if it can't be found, he probably deleted it and maybe he also changed his name so as not to be inundated with questions

As far as I remember, he wrote several times in the Nero Remake topic, but such an account no longer exists.

 

[Mr Technician]

This is what's wrong with the game. Playing as Kirito only serves to move Inoda and Asuna's story forward. There is no mystery anymore. Whatever happened to the illusions that Kirito was having? The priest story was cut, and mention about what goes in the church in the second game never materialized. It's an NTR game, but it hardly feels like it anymore.

That's my point. I really like Quinella (Administrator) for the mystery part. Wishing, she will take much more active role in this game. Majority of the people might not even agree with me. But she is perfect character in that game. Also reading between her lines of text is not boring to me. I wish she could be some kind of dark spirit Mommy fetish of Kirito, for example... This would give some excitement which is not there. But it would be very, very exciting to me!

Edit: this could be a plot to "Mommy knows best, honey!". Ahahaha!

 

[Aniky Light]

As far as I remember, he wrote several times in the Nero Remake topic, but such an account no longer exists.

What I read from Fujino was "how are you?"

 

[Queen_Nothing]

It wasn't even about rape or not. It was whether Sugou fucked Asuna.

Looking in hindsight, the implication that Sugou fucked Asuna was there but it was all our assumption. Nothing in the game that directly confirmed it. The first time we got information about Sugou was the dream in Part 1 where he raped Asuna. But that could have been Kirito's fears or assumptions. The second time was when Kirito was exploring the Council's files and found videos of Sugou molesting Asuna. But that was just molesting not fucking. The third time was when we found the note in the hospital saying Asuna suffered sexual trauma so she repressed her memories and may be more susceptible to sexual pressure (lucky Inoda).

With all that we all assumed Sugou raped her because that is what happens in porn but it was nothing concrete. Fujino then had to clarify Sugou did not have sex with Asuna so the promise of Asuna only being with Kirito and Inoda stays true.

I kinda like the plot of Sugou awakening her to pleasure first though. It makes so much more sense within the continuity,

 

[mos555]

What I read from Fujino was "how are you?"

It's a good thing it's not "Hello world!", otherwise one would think that Fujino is just an artificial intelligence.