RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Gotta say, the memory modification plot that happens when they bring back Yui kinda ruins this for me. Inoda, sketchy asshole that he is, did 99% of Asuna's corruption the "right way", taking advantage of Asuna's kindness and awaking her latent naughtiness, and then a memory rewrite (arguably the laziest corruption plot device there is) is what takes him over the finish line? Kinda cheapens everything up to this point and also everything that will come later. Like, no shit he's gonna win her over when her memories have been rewritten, no challenge there.

On another note, on 7/18 the "Contact Alice" option is greyed out for me, what are the requirements to be able to select it?

I mean, when you remember he technically only got away with everything so far because Administrator was looking out for him, it was always cheap anyway XD

You have to have high prurience/perversion value to be able to contact Alice, aka you need to choose the option of having been 'cheating' with all the girls if you're starting straight up from the last update, that's what unlocks the 'Gigachad Kirito' route XP

 

[MagLev]

I mean, when you remember he technically only got away with everything so far because Administrator was looking out for him, it was always cheap anyway XD

You have to have high prurience/perversion value to be able to contact Alice, aka you need to choose the option of having been 'cheating' with all the girls if you're starting straight up from the last update, that's what unlocks the 'Gigachad Kirito' route XP

I guess, different level of cheap tho !

It's a playthrough that's been going on since the start and with every prurience option selected up to that point, that's why I was surprised it was greyed out.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Fair XD

Huh, that seems like a bug then, weird. Try and start a new game with the last update/date option and skip up to that point, see if it's still grayed out?

 

[Mr Technician]

I mean, when you remember he technically only got away with everything so far because Administrator was looking out for him, it was always cheap anyway XD

You have to have high prurience/perversion value to be able to contact Alice, aka you need to choose the option of having been 'cheating' with all the girls if you're starting straight up from the last update, that's what unlocks the 'Gigachad Kirito' route XP

Yeah, for the Administrator part - this is kinda lame. She was very powerful. Mind you that in fact she was So Powerful that Kirito had to fight her dual handed style in Ailicization while she was Without Her Right hand... And single wielded one blade in Her left hand ONLY. And she had problems only in that situation. 350+ years of experience for her...
Only one thing i approve by her existence here is that it might be unclear if she was killed while teleporting to the real life...
Maybe some part of her did reach real life in original series (but she literally exploded). Also her existence in his dreams or his brain - is highly unlikely for me.
Judging also by her sexual experience she would likely to toy with the boy Kirito, seduce him, or even try to trick him in dreams.
She would want to overwrite his memory what should be done in Crystals. Or inflict false memory scenes, or at least block entire part of what he was before... To replace his memory that way she could have a loyal servant Kirito.
In this NTR game i don't see anything like that. Her desire to dominate is just not here. And we don't have a Cardinal who would try to stop her...
Only one character trying to corrupt the entire world with one guy would be impossible job anyway. Her desire should be to rule the entire real life people. Yet we see it only from perspective of only one or two meaningless characters. Inoda is literally nobody... Kirito is just highly skilled engineer(?)... She doesn't do it to corrupt Prime Minister, or maybe a President... So yeah, i find it a cheap idea.

Edit: i can't not to compare it with origins. That character was one of the two i was thinking highly that it will maybe develop more in the story. And now i think i won't see that, so it is a downer for me anyway... I am not even interested to see more 'corruption' by just fucking. So the Inoda + Asuna part is not that interesting for me. I was hoping to see more real life corruption inflicted by Quinella by using her champions... Non direct corruption would be also fine for me. But, yeah...

 

[Aniky Light]

but Alice should also be an AI, because she is not a real person, in fact she had manifested herself in real life as an AI during the conference or something like that, only I don't remember what speech she had given

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Yeah, for the Administrator part - this is kinda lame. She was very powerful. Mind you that in fact she was So Powerful that Kirito had to fight her dual handed style in Ailicization while she was Without Her Right hand... And single wielded one blade in Her left hand ONLY. And she had problems only in that situation. 350+ years of experience for her...
Only one thing i approve by her existence here is that it might be unclear if she was killed while teleporting to the real life...
Maybe some part of her did reach real life in original series (but she literally exploded). Also her existence in his dreams or his brain - is highly unlikely for me.
Judging also by her sexual experience she would likely to toy with the boy Kirito, seduce him, or even try to trick him in dreams.
She would want to overwrite his memory what should be done in Crystals. Or inflict false memory scenes, or at least block entire part of what he was before... To replace his memory that way she could have a loyal servant Kirito.
In this NTR game i don't see anything like that. Her desire to dominate is just not here. And we don't have a Cardinal who would try to stop her...
Only one character trying to corrupt the entire world with one guy would be impossible job anyway. Her desire should be to rule the entire real life people. Yet we see it only from perspective of only one or two meaningless characters. Inoda is literally nobody... Kirito is just highly skilled engineer(?)... She doesn't do it to corrupt Prime Minister, or maybe a President... So yeah, i find it a cheap idea.

Edit: i can't not to compare it with origins. That character was one of the two i was thinking highly that it will maybe develop more in the story. And now i think i won't see that, so it is a downer for me anyway... I am not even interested to see more 'corruption' by just fucking. So the Inoda + Asuna part is not that interesting for me. I was hoping to see more real life corruption inflicted by Quinella by using her champions... Non direct corruption would be also fine for me. But, yeah...

I told you already dude, but yeah, you were overthinking things way too much, and both the Alice and Quinella Fujino uses have nothing to do with the canon ones at all, they're basically just OCs with the same names and faces XP

but Alice should also be an AI, because she is not a real person, in fact she had manifested herself in real life as an AI during the conference or something like that, only I don't remember what speech she had given

She's something way more complicated than "just an AI", but yeah, Fujino's Alice is just a normal policewoman, she has nothing to do with SAO's Fluctlight Alice :O (Also, in Canon she was IRL because they got her a robot body)

 

[Mr Technician]

but Alice should also be an AI, because she is not a real person, in fact she had manifested herself in real life as an AI during the conference or something like that, only I don't remember what speech she had given

Existence of her in here, in 'real life' might be a mistake to origins. I still haven't watched last 4 episodes - gonna do it now. But yes, she was AI from the beginning. Explanation to this could be only that:
we Players play a Game...
which is about a Characters who in their real life live and also play Virtual Game
...however all of this is inside a GAME. And it could be explained as somehow, somebody made

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real, and into action. And funny part of it is that you cannot determine if you are in Simulation... so that's that.

I told you already dude, but yeah, you were overthinking things way too much, and both the Alice and Quinella Fujino uses have nothing to do with the canon ones at all, they're basically just OCs with the same names and faces XP

Yep, i know you did. And thank you very much for influencing me to actually watch anime. I silently still hope that she will have some bigger influence. Maybe secretly we will find out she was whispering also to Asuna, and all other characters. But i doubt it. I think it would be required to at least watch Alicization by the author.

 

[UnknownAnonymous]

So I decided to replay part 1 and at the very beginning of the game under Kirito's aprtment the pigeon is giving me the option to enable "Room Viewing Switch".
Could someone explain to me what that does??

 

[Aniky Light]

If Alice is an AI, then who is Eugeo? Both Alice and Eugeo don't exist in real life, or am I missing something about that blond guy?

 

[peanutstando]

just comeback to this game and wondering how many ending are there and is there ending with gigachad kirito and asuna?

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Existence of her in here, in 'real life' might be a mistake to origins. I still haven't watched last 4 episodes - gonna do it now. But yes, she was AI from the beginning. Explanation to this could be only that:
we Players play a Game...
which is about a Characters who in their real life live and also play Virtual Game
...however all of this is inside a GAME. And it could be explained as somehow, somebody made

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real, and into action. And funny part of it is that you cannot determine if you are in Simulation... so that's that.

Yep, i know you did. And thank you very much for influencing me to actually watch anime. I silently still hope that she will have some bigger influence. Maybe secretly we will find out she was whispering also to Asuna, and all other characters. But i doubt it. I think it would be required to at least watch Alicization by the author.

Next you should read the Light Novels to enjoy the over 90% of world-building and characterization the anime removed, too XD

If Alice is an AI, then who is Eugeo? Both Alice and Eugeo don't exist in real life, or am I missing something about that blond guy?

There isn't an Eugeo here at all (In the Fujinoverse at least), and you may wanna actually watch the series rather than asking random questions, is hard to answer properly if you don't make clear exactly how much you know and don't compared to Canon XP Eugeo is also a not-just-an-AI like Alice, both are part of a literal world filled of people like them that was made inside a simulation, is kinda the whole plot of the Alicization Arc/SAO Season 3/4.

just comeback to this game and wondering how many ending are there and is there ending with gigachad kirito and asuna?

There are no actual endings as of yet, while the game is on its final arc the ending is probably still several months away updates-wise. It JUST split into 2 routes, an "Inoda" Route and a "Gigachad Kirito" one (Which Fujino said he himself called 'Supreme King Kirito', as a parallel to the MC of YGO GX getting an alternative 'evil' personality). So we got at least 2 endings, plus a third 'bad' one he has announced to be considering to add, where Asuna just becomes a slut for the bad guys, so probably everyone loses in it because it's a 'bad' end, so at least 3 right now. From first looks right now, it doesn't seem like the Gigachad Kirito route will lead to anything with or good for Asuna, though, while this may change in future updates for now it seems G. Kirito's route changes exclusively focus on the other girls, the Asuna and Inoda plot doesn't change at all between both routes right now, though this may change in the upcoming update.

 

[peanutstando]

Next you should read the Light Novels to enjoy the over 90% of world-building and characterization the anime removed, too XD



There isn't an Eugeo here at all (In the Fujinoverse at least), and you may wanna actually watch the series rather than asking random questions, is hard to answer properly if you don't make clear exactly how much you know and don't compared to Canon XP Eugeo is also a not-just-an-AI like Alice, both are part of a literal world filled of people like them that was made inside a simulation, is kinda the whole plot of the Alicization Arc/SAO Season 3/4.



There are no actual endings as of yet, while the game is on its final arc the ending is probably still several months away updates-wise. It JUST split into 2 routes, an "Inoda" Route and a "Gigachad Kirito" one (Which Fujino said he himself called 'Supreme King Kirito', as a parallel to the MC of YGO GX getting an alternative 'evil' personality). So we got at least 2 endings, plus a third 'bad' one he has announced to be considering to add, where Asuna just becomes a slut for the bad guys, so probably everyone loses in it because it's a 'bad' end, so at least 3 right now. From first looks right now, it doesn't seem like the Gigachad Kirito route will lead to anything with or good for Asuna, though, while this may change in future updates for now it seems G. Kirito's route changes exclusively focus on the other girls, the Asuna and Inoda plot doesn't change at all between both routes right now, though this may change in the upcoming update.

damn u reply fast
thank u tho
guess ill wait for more update (hope inoda get fucked)

 

[Mr Technician]

If Alice is an AI, then who is Eugeo? Both Alice and Eugeo don't exist in real life, or am I missing something about that blond guy?

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[Aniky Light]

There isn't an Eugeo here at all (In the Fujinoverse at least), and you may wanna actually watch the series rather than asking random questions, is hard to answer properly if you don't make clear exactly how much you know and don't compared to Canon XP Eugeo is also a not-just-an-AI like Alice, both are part of a literal world filled of people like them that was made inside a simulation, is kinda the whole plot of the Alicization Arc/SAO Season 3/4.

Bro, with your answer you make me look like an idiot, as if I didn't know SAO xD, I know anime, but I wasn't interested in finding out the identity of the characters, I was more interested in seeing them kick Quinella's ass, however I wasn't referring to the game, if Eugeo isn't present in the game, I wouldn't have asked this question, it's so obvious

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

damn u reply fast
thank u tho
guess ill wait for more update (hope inoda get fucked)

The game has split into two routes, but it's unlikely Inoda gets completely fucked even in the Gigachad Kirito route, we need more updates to fully confirm it but as of right now the route split isn't touching the Asuna/Inoda stuff at all, even where Kirito becomes a badass who fucks all the other girls the events between those two are the same, so it's likely that won't change regardless of which route (Though again, we need more updates to confirm it). Ironically, the only ending where Inoda may get what's coming to him is the 'bad ending', but in that one EVERYONE probably ends up fucked so it's not exactly the biggest comfort XD

Bro, with your answer you make me look like an idiot, as if I didn't know SAO xD, I know anime, but I wasn't interested in finding out the identity of the characters, I was more interested in seeing them kick Quinella's ass, however I wasn't referring to the game, if Eugeo isn't present in the game, I wouldn't have asked this question, it's so obvious

OH, my bad lmao. But you say you basically skipped over the anime wtihout paying attention to anything but the fights, then XD? Anyway, he was Kirito's best bro, but for a more detailed summary check what Technician wrote above :3

 

[Aniky Light]

The game has split into two routes, but it's unlikely Inoda gets completely fucked even in the Gigachad Kirito route, we need more updates to fully confirm it but as of right now the route split isn't touching the Asuna/Inoda stuff at all, even where Kirito becomes a badass who fucks all the other girls the events between those two are the same, so it's likely that won't change regardless of which route (Though again, we need more updates to confirm it). Ironically, the only ending where Inoda may get what's coming to him is the 'bad ending', but in that one EVERYONE probably ends up fucked so it's not exactly the biggest comfort XD



OH, my bad lmao. But you say you basically skipped over the anime wtihout paying attention to anything but the fights, then XD? Anyway, he was Kirito's best bro, but for a more detailed summary check what Technician wrote above :3

Yes, but I asked if Eugeo is like Alice. Mr. Techno went into too much detail that I lost half my life just reading xD

P.S. I didn't skip anything; I watched everything all night.

I was only interested in understanding who Kirito and Asuna were, to better understand Fujino's game. I never wrote anything on the thread in Part 1 because I knew SAO, the game itself, but not the characters.

 

[Mr Technician]

Yes, but I asked if Eugeo is like Alice. Mr. Techno went into too much detail that I lost half my life just reading xD

I hope you don't mind it i spam-walled you in that spoiler with Holy Text's...

 

[Aniky Light]

By the way, if Kirito is new to Alice's world, how come Eugeo knows him like he really existed, even saying he's known him since they were kids?

Go on, Mr. Techno, fill in the thread with everything you know.

P.S. Eugeo would have died anyway, even if Kirito wasn't there. Well, he would have died of boredom trying to cut down that tree. xD

 

[Mr Technician]

By the way, if Kirito is new to Alice's world, how come Eugeo knows him like he really existed, even saying he's known him since they were kids?

Go on, Mr. Techno, fill in the thread with everything you know.

P.S. Eugeo would have died anyway, even if Kirito wasn't there. Well, he would have died of boredom trying to cut down that tree. xD

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[Aniky Light]

The time passage in Underworld is already different than to human world (it is way faster, but idk exact amount). So Kirito actualy seems to be there from child to a teenager. And i guess it would be too boring to show all their childhood to teenager only. Because in that period nothing much happens anyway...
The problem with a solution to a perfect Simulation is that how fast you allow to time to progress in the simulation. Normal human brain or our souls would have to be limited to some point. Kirito and Asuna has spent 200 years in Simulation. She was also saying that she would be with him for 1000 years. She also decided not to Disconnect herself and leave Kirito alone in Underworld. You know the answer why...
However what was more problematic was that Final Test would be to speed Simulation time progression to Very high. In under 10 real life minutes - they were there for 10 years. And they had to wake up from that eventually... So the problem is that real humans cannot live indefinitely long. Our psychic is not meant to survive that. And i am not even speaking about bodies.
You need to see this from perspective of heathy 20 years old human individual. How many diseases would you catch in your lifetime... Or how many psychic disorders if it would be for the human brain to live that long. Every 100 year lived gives you more chances that your brain will turn you into some kind of psychopath anyway... That's my taught about original series. 200 years is believable to withstand.
But after that - you would have to erase that memory anyway - because your return to normal world, and can live for example 100 years more in real life, not in Simulation... That's serious risk to brain disorders.

Wait, did you really write that? Are you crazy? xD