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But did Sugu really need that Kirito? She was in love with a completely different him. Now if he is the second Hebishima, will she like him?:unsure:
This has come up several times, and the answer is still the same: Sugu is so far gone that she wants her big brother regardless of what he does, hell, in previous updates she even said that she would 'respect his decision no matter what'...while at the same time unable to resist forcing herself on him to get a taste of his dick, and she DID react positively to him trying to take the initiative in the bath XD Regardless of if Kirito became a scumbag, she would still want him (And realistically he never would be as bad as Hebishima was, lmao, reminder he even drugged and blackmailed like a hundred girls in total, and it was implied that when he got tired of them he moved on usually after making them sell their bodies for his sake...as bad as Gigachad Kirito may be, he's only targetting the girls close to him that were basically throwing themselves at him anyway, so yeah XP).
 

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I am curious where he's going with the affinity system, because it is an entirely separate system from prurience. Gonna be looking carefully to see if there's any dialogue differences based on it, even with the Inoda route in play for the next update.

Cause if character affinity is merely a byproduct of farming prurience, then it shouldn't be necessary for Fujino to keep making dialogue references to it via Suguha on the Inoda route now that things are cleanly split. But if those affinity differences do keep happening, it may be a "three main routes, multiple endings per route" situation.

Given that Suguha has been one of the clearest in-game indicators of how you're doing with each girl and it seems she's going to be in the next update, it should be fairly telling.
 

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12.15 Progress Report

Current Progress:
Scripts:50%
Events:40%
CG:40%
Thank you all for participating in the survey. This was only meant to help me understand everyone’s different preferences, and the existing plans will not be significantly changed based on the results.
目前的進步報告:
文本進度:50%
事件進度:40%
CG進度:40%
感謝大家的對於調查的參與,這個只是為了了解所有人的喜好差別,並不會因為調查結果就很大幅度更改現有的安排。
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The next update will probably be in a month, just like last year in January. He's taking a break for the holidays. Maybe Asuna will help him with his studies, for example, preparing for the exam.
 

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This has come up several times, and the answer is still the same: Sugu is so far gone that she wants her big brother regardless of what he does, hell, in previous updates she even said that she would 'respect his decision no matter what'...while at the same time unable to resist forcing herself on him to get a taste of his dick, and she DID react positively to him trying to take the initiative in the bath XD Regardless of if Kirito became a scumbag, she would still want him (And realistically he never would be as bad as Hebishima was, lmao, reminder he even drugged and blackmailed like a hundred girls in total, and it was implied that when he got tired of them he moved on usually after making them sell their bodies for his sake...as bad as Gigachad Kirito may be, he's only targetting the girls close to him that were basically throwing themselves at him anyway, so yeah XP).
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This has come up several times, and the answer is still the same: Sugu is so far gone that she wants her big brother regardless of what he does, hell, in previous updates she even said that she would 'respect his decision no matter what'...while at the same time unable to resist forcing herself on him to get a taste of his dick, and she DID react positively to him trying to take the initiative in the bath XD Regardless of if Kirito became a scumbag, she would still want him (And realistically he never would be as bad as Hebishima was, lmao, reminder he even drugged and blackmailed like a hundred girls in total, and it was implied that when he got tired of them he moved on usually after making them sell their bodies for his sake...as bad as Gigachad Kirito may be, he's only targetting the girls close to him that were basically throwing themselves at him anyway, so yeah XP).
I would have bet that you would have answered, I said to myself: here, now Allius will come to have his say xD
 
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Kinda surprised he's as far into the next update as he is, given the trouble he had with the last one. Going to guess it'll be a fairly short one.
 

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This has come up several times, and the answer is still the same: Sugu is so far gone that she wants her big brother regardless of what he does, hell, in previous updates she even said that she would 'respect his decision no matter what'...while at the same time unable to resist forcing herself on him to get a taste of his dick, and she DID react positively to him trying to take the initiative in the bath XD Regardless of if Kirito became a scumbag, she would still want him (And realistically he never would be as bad as Hebishima was, lmao, reminder he even drugged and blackmailed like a hundred girls in total, and it was implied that when he got tired of them he moved on usually after making them sell their bodies for his sake...as bad as Gigachad Kirito may be, he's only targetting the girls close to him that were basically throwing themselves at him anyway, so yeah XP).
You're exaggerating, Suguha really is a Yandere towards Kirito. But it's important to understand that she wants Kirito to give himself to her willingly, while fully conscious. Otherwise, she would have had sex with him or given him an aphrodisiac a long time ago in the scenes with the camera. In the bathtub scene, she wasn't against it because she thought it was Kirito's desire, but we as the player know it wasn't. A Yandere like Suguha can easily distinguish the normal Kirito from his other version just by seeing a little of his behavior. She's not Liz, who gave herself up so easily; she wants the real Kirito, and for him to come to her voluntarily.
 
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Kinda surprised he's as far into the next update as he is, given the trouble he had with the last one. Going to guess it'll be a fairly short one.
You do realize that last update was delayed because of work related issues and now his game progress will be fast because of work convience and he can go home fast than earlier, Due to holidays we might expect a delay. Fujino deserves some break from both his work and game
 
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You're exaggerating, Suguha really is a Yandere towards Kirito. But it's important to understand that she wants Kirito to give himself to her willingly, while fully conscious. Otherwise, she would have had sex with him or given him an aphrodisiac a long time ago in the scenes with the camera. In the bathtub scene, she wasn't against it because she thought it was Kirito's desire, but we as the player know it wasn't. A Yandere like Suguha can easily distinguish the normal Kirito from his other version just by seeing a little of his behavior. She's not Liz, who gave herself up so easily; she wants the real Kirito, and for him to come to her voluntarily.
Honestly dude, I think you're waaaaay overthinking Fujino's writing XD If you want a more clear cut answer: None of that matters because at the end of the day Suguha is a massively contradictory character like everyone else. For all her wats of wanting something 'mutual', she HAS raped and taken advantage of Kirito while fully knowing what she was doing countless times by now...her words don't really mean much when her 'limits' are as arbitrary as Fujino's mood strikes XP (Especially because we know the REAL reason she didn't use her pussy is becasue Fujino didn't wanna give her an insta-win as otherwise the game would have ended if she got herself pregnant while Kirito was unconscious :p) If you want a more 'writing' perspective: She's totally not gonna mind Gigachad Kirito because overcomplicating THAT much at this point is simply unfeasiable, there is no time for the plot to drag on by getting an even more complex twist of "Suguha doesn't accept Gigachad Kirito" becasue the game is practically over now, so yeah.

But hey, you can still not believe that anyway, I'm not gonna force you to think otherwise if you don't want to. Fujino is probably gonna show the answer soon anyway, as it's very likely Gigachad Kirito interacts with Sugu this upcoming update.
 

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Honestly dude, I think you're waaaaay overthinking Fujino's writing XD If you want a more clear cut answer: None of that matters because at the end of the day Suguha is a massively contradictory character like everyone else. For all her wats of wanting something 'mutual', she HAS raped and taken advantage of Kirito while fully knowing what she was doing countless times by now...her words don't really mean much when her 'limits' are as arbitrary as Fujino's mood strikes XP (Especially because we know the REAL reason she didn't use her pussy is becasue Fujino didn't wanna give her an insta-win as otherwise the game would have ended if she got herself pregnant while Kirito was unconscious :p) If you want a more 'writing' perspective: She's totally not gonna mind Gigachad Kirito because overcomplicating THAT much at this point is simply unfeasiable, there is no time for the plot to drag on by getting an even more complex twist of "Suguha doesn't accept Gigachad Kirito" becasue the game is practically over now, so yeah.

But hey, you can still not believe that anyway, I'm not gonna force you to think otherwise if you don't want to. Fujino is probably gonna show the answer soon anyway, as it's very likely Gigachad Kirito interacts with Sugu this upcoming update.
I want to say that it's not necessary to use his second personality for interaction with Suguha. At least not this time, because if they had sex with Gigachad Kirito, it would seem like all her efforts were devalued. But if it were the normal Kirito, and even with a small influence from the Goddess as before, it would look more complete. :whistle:
 
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I want to say that it's not necessary to use his second personality for interaction with Suguha. At least not this time, because if they had sex with Gigachad Kirito, it would seem like all her efforts were devalued. But if it were the normal Kirito, and even with a small influence from the Goddess as before, it would look more complete. :whistle:
I mean, before Fujino introduced Gigachad Kirito, I would have agreed with you, in fact I was kinda hoping that's how Suguha's plot would go, however that's no longer the case: By splitting the game into two routes, Fujino essentialy gave himself a blank card to do as much as he wants to the extreme in each because the other will have the contrary. The Gigachad Kirito route can afford for Kirito to fuck Alice stupid in front of Klein and 'joke' about stealing her from him, then not even a couple hours later make Liz his sex slave and fuck her silly against his apartment's wall, because meanwhile in the Inoda Route one will be fucked by a BBC gang leader under the influence of hypnosis and the other will be trapped and sexually tortured by Inoda for 2 days straight XP

Meaning, is more realistic to hope for Suguha to have a good time with Gigachad Kirito because now that's probably the only route where she may get to be happy, given is likely Fujino takes the chance of that to have things go badly for her in the other toute no matter how dumb it's plot-wise :O
 
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Seriously why would people think Fujino would ax something he just made? He was just asking how people thought of the different routes. Still too early to ask IMO though.

The poll ended the results are like this:

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People love the Inoda route. No surprise there.

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Most people don't care about the Chadrito route. Guess most people are here to see Inoda fuck over Kirito.

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Most people love the hidden route, almost as much as Inoda's route.

My conclusion is most people just don't like Kirito. Also I found interesting these polls are not on Ci-en and Patreon only. I don't think Fujino would want to exclude Ci-en on purpose. I wonder if Ci-en has an policy where creators can only post so many posts every month so Fujino can't afford to post these polls there? :unsure:


It always only Save 5. Just don't use that save.
I’m wondering when Asuna says she finally loves him
 

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You do realize that last update was delayed because of work related issues and now his game progress will be fast because of work convience and he can go home fast than earlier, Due to holidays we might expect a delay. Fujino deserves some break from both his work and game
Yea, of course he does. Wasn't implying he should rush anything or not take breaks. But the last update had a LOT of bugs, and in fact still does. If it were my call I'd tell him to slow down, if anything. He's had to devote time to fixing a lot of the route flag issues from last update as well. Just hoping the game doesn't become a leaning tower of duct tape because he's trying to push content out at an unrealistic pace is all.
 
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does anyone notice there inconsistent scene sex between asuna and inoda. inoda turn skinny for some reason?
This has been happening since the first part, and not just with Inoda, Hebishima also had this happen sometimes: Is because several of the scenes Fujino uses are pre-made by someone else already, and pre-loaded KK animations usually experience issues when you change the default models (The characters in the sex scene/animation) and require tweaking around to fix. So sometimes when the male character doesn't fully appear onscreen, Fujino leaves it as it is rather than replacing it with Inoda because it can't fit with the movement, and sometimes he just 'copy/pastes' Inoda's head but has to leave the other character's body because otherwise the animation breaks.

Yea, of course he does. Wasn't implying he should rush anything or not take breaks. But the last update had a LOT of bugs, and in fact still does. If it were my call I'd tell him to slow down, if anything. He's had to devote time to fixing a lot of the route flag issues from last update as well. Just hoping the game doesn't become a leaning tower of duct tape because he's trying to push content out at an unrealistic pace is all.
He did fix practically all the bugs of the last update except for the one related to the bad ending trigger that will continue breaking the Kirito Route if you trigger it, but yeah, the sad thing is, the game IS a leaning tower of duct tape and has been for a while, ever since Fujino surpassed the size of Part 1 (Hell the entire reason he stopped Part 1 when he did was because the game was becoming too big and breaking the RPGMaker engine). I'm afraid that this is sadly something that won't be fully fixed until the game is completely finished and he has someone go through it all and fix it completely, probably only for the 'official english release' of Saikey, which did fix all the Part 1 bugs I believe (Though sadly that one will have all the SAO references and names removed...).
 
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