RPGM Symphony of the Serpent [v.48112] [NLT Media]

[brittC25]

Why is the game not on the 1st page?

 

[El Buho]

As I see some people are struggling to find how to progress. I post a walkthrough (not made by me, found in NLT discord server). This is a step by step guide to get everything. If someone could pin this in OP. I think it would be great for someone who needs it. I will update this comment as soon as the next version comes out

Version: 05092

Thank you for posting this! It is very helpful.

 

[Apartment817]

What's the point of having strangers give hints if they are absolutely useless?

I was trying to play without a walkthrough and got almost all the way through. I didn't know it, but all I had left was two level two scenes with side girls.

The hints were something like "I don't eat hotdogs they are too sexual" and "Isn't staring at women's thighs great?".

Those don't led the player to realize they need to flirt in the hospital breakroom or at the bar.

 

[Yevaud6]

What's the point of having strangers give hints if they are absolutely useless?

I was trying to play without a walkthrough and got almost all the way through. I didn't know it, but all I had left was two level two scenes with side girls.

The hints were something like "I don't eat hotdogs they are too sexual" and "Isn't staring at women's thighs great?".

Those don't led the player to realize they need to flirt in the hospital breakroom or at the bar.

I will admit the hints seem kind of flawed, they are more like pun hints. Saying this basically because the hint points to the type of scene you unlock, which you won't know about till you guess which girl and unlock it. Definitely doesn't seem useful for unlocking, which should be the function of a hint. I see what it was hinting at though, it makes sense AFTER you find it.

 

[pdpax]

What's the point of having strangers give hints if they are absolutely useless?

I was trying to play without a walkthrough and got almost all the way through. I didn't know it, but all I had left was two level two scenes with side girls.

The hints were something like "I don't eat hotdogs they are too sexual" and "Isn't staring at women's thighs great?".

Those don't led the player to realize they need to flirt in the hospital breakroom or at the bar.

They're just telling you there's something more you have to discover. What do you want them to do? Tell you to go talk to someone at the hospital or at the bar? That's absurd. You could expect that from the oracle, but not from strangers. And if the oracle says that, the game wouldn't be remotely as fun. Hustling to find out what you've missed is a part of NLT games. Otherwise it would be just a visual novel.

 

[Yevaud6]

They're just telling you there's something more you have to discover. What do you want them to do? Tell you to go talk to someone at the hospital or at the bar? That's absurd. You could expect that from the oracle, but not from strangers. And if the oracle says that, the game wouldn't be remotely as fun. Hustling to find out what you've missed is a part of NLT games. Otherwise it would be just a visual novel.

Most hints give a clue what you're looking for, ie: finding a nut in the grass for the recipe piece for this release. Now you know you're looking for a nut in a grassy area, only a handful in the game. Another example points directly to the freight yard, so you scan the area.

The hints for the scene unlocks don't point to girls or the area...yes you know that there are 3 scenes to unlock in the menu. But now you're guessing amoung the whole cast of girls to find which one. Something you would do w/o the hint anyways.

So at minimum, for the clue to be any kind of use, it should point to the girl in some vague way. I mean, the hotdog one points to the one of the diner girls but ends up being the hospital chick. I'll give it a very slight benefit for being the one in the break room. But it's very clear that in reality all the clues were pointing to was the position, and that points to nothing until after you have found it.

 

[Borckan]

Android version plz

 

[HollowVoice]

The hints for the scene unlocks don't point to girls or the area...yes you know that there are 3 scenes to unlock in the menu. But now you're guessing amoung the whole cast of girls to find which one. Something you would do w/o the hint anyways.

Think of it as both the stranger and the phone display pointing you in the direction of side girls, as opposed to nuts in the grass, an item in the outskirts, an item in the church, etc. That's six places to look instead of every area in the game.

Not only that, but the six girls are gathered in only three locations. So, three small-ish places to look.

 

[NH1980]

What's the point of having strangers give hints if they are absolutely useless?

I was trying to play without a walkthrough and got almost all the way through. I didn't know it, but all I had left was two level two scenes with side girls.

The hints were something like "I don't eat hotdogs they are too sexual" and "Isn't staring at women's thighs great?".

Those don't led the player to realize they need to flirt in the hospital breakroom or at the bar.

Agree with this - I don't mind a puzzle, in fact I quite enjoy one, but I don't like it where you have to wander around randomly in the hope of finding something.

Other examples in this update

- how on earth was I supposed to know to wander around under those particular trees to find the nut. Okay, I get that nuts come from trees, but it took quite a bit of random walking around to stumble into it - the only reason I persevered was because I knew it was there somewhere from the Youtube guide - otherwise I would have moved on assuming it was somewhere else.

- and the pain killers - there was a clue something like "do the elites have better access to medicine" so I spent ages searching the mansion and the VIP apartments, but turned out to be the Snake Oil which I already had - so what was the clue about and why on earth would I think that Snake Oil is a pain killer

 

[JoeyGucci]

Most hints give a clue what you're looking for, ie: finding a nut in the grass for the recipe piece for this release. Now you know you're looking for a nut in a grassy area, only a handful in the game. Another example points directly to the freight yard, so you scan the area.

The hints for the scene unlocks don't point to girls or the area...yes you know that there are 3 scenes to unlock in the menu. But now you're guessing amoung the whole cast of girls to find which one. Something you would do w/o the hint anyways.

So at minimum, for the clue to be any kind of use, it should point to the girl in some vague way. I mean, the hotdog one points to the one of the diner girls but ends up being the hospital chick. I'll give it a very slight benefit for being the one in the break room. But it's very clear that in reality all the clues were pointing to was the position, and that points to nothing until after you have found it.

its a puzzle game...

 

[Yevaud6]

its a puzzle game...

It is, and if you want to go through without the walkthrough or hints, the challenge is there. But the point of a hint is to give you an idea of what to do or where to look. You shouldn't be completely clueless or mislead by a hint, that negates the whole point of the mechanic.
I was originally posting all this and supporting the original posters feedback because I was thinking this is one of those threads where the dev is an active member (especially since I @'d the wrong dev in my original response). Now I can't remember if this is or isn't. So the whole chain of conversation/feedback might be completely pointless.
The point wasn't to just vent to other users, it was to aid in the developement of the game. If I had remembered the dev isn't on here I probably wouldn't of responded in the first place. Oh well.

 

[El Buho]

It is, and if you want to go through without the walkthrough or hints, the challenge is there. But the point of a hint is to give you an idea of what to do or where to look. You shouldn't be completely clueless or mislead by a hint, that negates the whole point of the mechanic.
I was originally posting all this and supporting the original posters feedback because I was thinking this is one of those threads where the dev is an active member (especially since I @'d the wrong dev in my original response). Now I can't remember if this is or isn't. So the whole chain of conversation/feedback might be completely pointless.
The point wasn't to just vent to other users, it was to aid in the developement of the game. If I had remembered the dev isn't on here I probably wouldn't of responded in the first place. Oh well.

Guys, Just give up and use the "hand holder" walk-through. It is a lot less stressful and you don't feel like a dumb ass for missing something.

 

[Yevaud6]

Guys, Just give up and use the "hand holder" walk-through. It is a lot less stressful and you don't feel like a dumb ass for missing something.

lol, you don't need to @ me on that one, but I appreciate you making sure.
I always watch the video walk through after attempting to use the in game system. Some updates I don't need the video, but I certainly don't waste my time blindly looking if the in game system and natural dialogue isn't enough to understand what to do.

 

[El Buho]

lol, you don't need to @ me on that one, but I appreciate you making sure.
I always watch the video walk through after attempting to use the in game system. Some updates I don't need the video, but I certainly don't waste my time blindly looking if the in game system and natural dialogue isn't enough to understand what to do.

Yevaud6, yes my statement was not necessarily directed to you, I just wanted wanted to post my related thoughts.
Personally, I would rather just blindly follow the GREG87 hand holder guide, as opposed to trying to catch everything shown in videos. Sometimes the maker of the video is not spot on, but GREG87 always is.

 

[youbet567]

When is the next game coming?
Banging random hookers isnt what users wants.

 

[Apartment817]

Think of it as both the stranger and the phone display pointing you in the direction of side girls, as opposed to nuts in the grass, an item in the outskirts, an item in the church, etc. That's six places to look instead of every area in the game.

Not only that, but the six girls are gathered in only three locations. So, three small-ish places to look.

When I first looked at the menu for a sign of what was still needed to unlock I didn't see it. Guess I should have looked harder, having played ToN and TGO through development I knew about those indicators, but didn't see them here, thinking they weren't there yet. So I guess I didn't thoroughly review the menu.

My point being that I didn't know those hints were side girl scene related. All I knew was that after I finished the main story, the oracle was telling me I had finished the update but had missed side things. So using the strangers I first got the pieces for the seed of strength. (I should mention that I hadn't played in a few updates, I think I only played the first one, so yesterday I started from scratch.)

So I was getting the scene hints, along with the item hints until I whittled it down to just the two scene hints, but I didn't know they were just scene hints (since I hadn't found the indicator in the menu that I had two "karma pages" like things left.)

so tl;dr, I had no way of knowing they were pointing me to side girl scenes from the newly acquired strength, so it was the whole map not just the three locations.

 

[pdpax]

Most hints give a clue what you're looking for, ie: finding a nut in the grass for the recipe piece for this release. Now you know you're looking for a nut in a grassy area, only a handful in the game. Another example points directly to the freight yard, so you scan the area.

The hints for the scene unlocks don't point to girls or the area...yes you know that there are 3 scenes to unlock in the menu. But now you're guessing amoung the whole cast of girls to find which one. Something you would do w/o the hint anyways.

So at minimum, for the clue to be any kind of use, it should point to the girl in some vague way. I mean, the hotdog one points to the one of the diner girls but ends up being the hospital chick. I'll give it a very slight benefit for being the one in the break room. But it's very clear that in reality all the clues were pointing to was the position, and that points to nothing until after you have found it.

That's fair enough. If you know there are 3 scenes, it's either because you've checked the update files or read about it somewhere, both of which are cheating. So the developer is not responsible for that. But, I hear you. They could say things like "nurses are so hot" or things like that, but there's also some creative challenge there. How many times are they gonna talk about nurses or waitresses or strippers? It requires some extra creative work not to make it repetitive or too direct, but I guess using that as an excuse is just setting the bar low. So you're right.

 

[garenwolf]

let's goooo!!!

mylfylicious wich game?

 

[Yevaud6]

That's fair enough. If you know there are 3 scenes, it's either because you've checked the update files or read about it somewhere, both of which are cheating. So the developer is not responsible for that. But, I hear you. They could say things like "nurses are so hot" or things like that, but there's also some creative challenge there. How many times are they gonna talk about nurses or waitresses or strippers? It requires some extra creative work not to make it repetitive or too direct, but I guess using that as an excuse is just setting the bar low. So you're right.

I appreciate you seeing what I was trying to say. As for the "cheating" part...
I don't know there are 3 scenes because of the update files or reading it here. In the upper right of the pause menu it says "scenes 6/9 unlocked" or something along those lines. Those scenes are tied to two things as far as non-story progression is concerned:
-clips at the movie theater
-relationship sex scenes

Once you unlock all of the theater and finish the story update, process of elimination, it's a relationship scene. Like I said in a previous post; I always try to finish the content of an update the legit way with any in game intended aids, if needed, before resorting to a walkthrough. Only way to know if the in game aids are functioning as intended.
As for the hints, I was thinking more along the lines of vague or clever hints that pointing to the girls interest that are unique from the others. That way, if the player is paying attention to the personality of the girls, they can figure who they need to flirt with to get the scene.

 

[pdpax]

I appreciate you seeing what I was trying to say. As for the "cheating" part...
I don't know there are 3 scenes because of the update files or reading it here. In the upper right of the pause menu it says "scenes 6/9 unlocked" or something along those lines. Those scenes are tied to two things as far as non-story progression is concerned:
-clips at the movie theater
-relationship sex scenes

Once you unlock all of the theater and finish the story update, process of elimination, it's a relationship scene. Like I said in a previous post; I always try to finish the content of an update the legit way with any in game intended aids, if needed, before resorting to a walkthrough. Only way to know if the in game aids are functioning as intended.
As for the hints, I was thinking more along the lines of vague or clever hints that pointing to the girls interest that are unique from the others. That way, if the player is paying attention to the personality of the girls, they can figure who they need to flirt with to get the scene.

Right again. Thanks. I totally forgot about the scenes count. lol And yes, clever and relevant hints would definitely be nice.