Tuinhekje

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This update broke my save.
I was at 31% before.
and now it says 30% and the oracle says there is no more in the update.

I have:
sceens 68/72
extras 21/22
bootycall 9/9
outfits 5/5

But i cant get the 4 remaining sceens.
When i ask random people. i usually get this response.

"I hear the cook at BTF is verry fuckable ..."
"I'm Always looking to impress the nurses at the hospital.."
"I hate it when the nurse tells me to open wide ..."
"I'd search the dump for junk to steal but im scared of the snatchers"
"I can swallow a corn dog from BT&F"
"There is a crazy person at Emerald ridge, testing people .."
"Some poor sat at Emerald ridge keeps crying about something he lost"


at Emerald ridge, I guess i needs to find his tennis racket.. where ?
and the the other dude just vanished after the 2nd question.
These are hints as to where you need to go.
To summarize: The nurse and the cook in BT&F are getting a scene.
You can find the tennis racket in the scrapyard/dump.
The answer to the second question is your hint as to where he went.
Hint from me: search where you first met Cleo.

Edit: it's completely normal for a percentage to drop after a new update so no worries.
 

blaes0420

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this is the second time this happened and don't know what to do. I install update and it says I've completed everything. Tried downloading full game same thing. Latest update still at 27% and cannot find any more women to level up or people that need help etc. Don't know what I'm doing wrong
 
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DukeNukem2585

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How can you tell that? :unsure:
Because ChatGPT always does the weird em dash which is twice as long as a normal dash.

Normal one: -
ChatGPT's em dash: —

So you see texts like:

"But be aware — only this time!".

They never occured in this game or previous games from NLT before, now in this update they're all over the place. I also saw a sentence with a typo and some sentences just ended with "—" without proper punctuation. It looks like NLT half-assed Chat GPT's translation and missed out on a few parts when he copied & pasted what Chat GPT spat out.

Edit: I continued playing after this post and now all dashes are regular ones so far, except for when someone gets interrupted, which is proper use of the em dash.
 
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Pervy Sensei

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Because ChatGPT always does the weird em dash which is twice as long as a normal dash.

Normal one: -
ChatGPT's em dash: —

So you see texts like:

"But be aware — only this time!".

They never occured in this game or previous games from NLT before, now in this update they're all over the place. I also saw a sentence with a typo and some sentences just ended with "—" without proper punctuation. It looks like NLT half-assed Chat GPT's translation and missed out on a few parts when he copied & pasted what Chat GPT spat out.
The em dash is the appropriate way to represent a dash as a dash and not as a hyphen. (There's also the en dash, but that's for very specific use cases.) Also, for sentences that end with a (em)dash, that represents the character being interrupted by the next line of dialogue. This is normal practice in writing.

Also, the dashes have been appearing throughout the dialogue for several updates now, not just in the latest update. I think it's just that you're noticing it for the first time.

However, I'll admit that the use of dashes to the degree they're seen in SotS is quite different from NLT's previous writing, so it's reasonable to assume there's a certain influence there that's new.
 

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The em dash is the appropriate way to represent a dash as a dash and not as a hyphen. (There's also the en dash, but that's for very specific use cases.) Also, for sentences that end with a (em)dash, that represents the character being interrupted by the next line of dialogue. This is normal practice in writing.

Also, the dashes have been appearing throughout the dialogue for several updates now, not just in the latest update. I think it's just that you're noticing it for the first time.

However, I'll admit that the use of dashes to the degree they're seen in SotS is quite different from NLT's previous writing, so it's reasonable to assume there's a certain influence there that's new.
I've never seen anyone except ChatGPT in the real world using the em dash, usually "-" is just used by everyone. And no, I'm pretty sure the em dash wasn't used in Symphony of the serpent in previous updates, I usually spot this instantly because it shows off that GPT was used. It just came with this update now and it's in almost every single conversation, especially at the church.
 
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Cabin Fever

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I've never seen anyone except ChatGPT in the real world using the em dash, usually "-" is just used by everyone. And no, I'm pretty sure the em dash wasn't used in Symphony of the serpent in previous updates, I usually spot this instantly because it shows off that GPT was used. It just came with this update now and it's in almost every single conversation, especially at the church.
Never seen anyone except ChatGPT in the real world? Really? Is that so?

You do know that even MS Word automatically replace the short dash "-" with the em dash "–" if it's both immediately preceded and followed by a space, and has done that for decades, right? Right? :WeSmart:
 

DukeNukem2585

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Never seen anyone except ChatGPT in the real world? Really? Is that so?

You do know that even MS Word automatically replace the short dash "-" with the em dash "–" if it's both immediately preceded and followed by a space, and has done that for decades, right? Right? :WeSmart:
It doesn't matter what MS Word does, Word does a lot of weird things. What matters is how professional use to release their articles to the public. Here's a random article from the NASA about black holes, see for yourself:



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No em dash used.


WWF article about lions



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No em dash used..

..and so on and so forth. If you find a modern article using em dashes, it was most certainly written or at least corrected / improved by Chat GPT.
 

Cabin Fever

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It doesn't matter what MS Word does, Word does a lot of weird things. Here's a random article from the NASA about black holes, see for yourself:



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No em dash used.


WWF article about lions



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No em dash used..

..and so on and so forth. If you find a modern article using em dashes, it was most certainly written or at least corrected / improved by Chat GPT.
Uhm, I hate to break this to you, but that NASA screen capture you chose, those ARE em dashes. :FacePalm:

And folk, there you have it. He has actually seen em dashes in the real world other than ChatGPT. Just that he didn't recognize them.

And FYI, em dash is the proper way to go.
 
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DukeNukem2585

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Uhm, I hate to break this to you, but that NASA screen capture you chose, those ARE em-dashes.
Uhm, hate to break this back to you, but no, they aren't.

Nasa dash copied & pasted: –
Em dash: —

If you have difficulties spotting the difference, let me unbreak it for you by placing them in sequence, Nasa followed by em dash:
– —

And FYI, em dash is the proper way to go.
It's not, even Chat GPT the master of the em dash disagrees with that:

Q: is the em dash or regular dash more common and widely distributed?

A:

The regular dash (specifically the hyphen, -) is more common and widely distributed than the em dash (—), especially in everyday writing and across most languages and systems.

Here's why:

1. Hyphen (-)

  • Most common use cases:
    • Compound words: well-known, part-time
    • Word breaks at line ends
    • Phone numbers: 123-456-7890
  • Ubiquity: Found on all keyboards and used in many languages.
  • Unicode / ASCII: The hyphen is part of basic ASCII, making it compatible with almost all software and platforms.
2. Em dash (—)

  • Typical use cases:
    • Indicating breaks in thought: She was going to—wait, what was that?
    • Emphasizing or replacing parentheses/commas.
  • Less accessible: Not directly on most keyboards; often requires special input (e.g., Alt+0151 on Windows, Shift+Option+Minus on Mac).
  • Used mainly in formal/creative English writing; much less common in technical, scientific, or international documents.

Conclusion:

The hyphen (or regular dash) is more common and widely distributed due to its broader function, international use, and universal keyboard presence. The em dash, while stylistically valuable in certain types of English prose, is more niche in comparison.


 
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