HTML Syrup Town [v4] [NoodleJacuzzi]

[TFFBladez]

Can we get back the tanned skin color?

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

Alright today I bring you the Illustrious model I've been cooking with:

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(Best imo at strength 0.8)

Right now I'm currently using this checkpoint:

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It's based off a checkpoint called an Illustrious model, so we call it an Illustrious Checkpoint. As compared to PrefectPony, which is a Pony Diffusion Checkpoint. The differences, thankfully, are very minor. You use pretty much the exact same settings I laid out in the guide for any sdxl/pony checkpoint, it's just that:
* Pony Diffusion LoRa models don't always play nice with Illustrious checkpoints
* The quality tags are listed at the end of the prompt instead of the start.

For syrup town I use these quality keywords:

syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest

And this negative prompt:

lowres, realistic, (worst quality, bad quality:1.2), bad anatomy, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, old, oldest, censored, mosaic censorship, bar_censor, conjoined, patreon username, patreon logo, text, japanese text, english text, comic, multiple views, monochrome, sketch, sketchy, manly, masculine, masculine male, bara, pectorals, small anus, small nipples, tearing up, tanlines, red eyelashes, 5 fingers, 5 toes

Because new images in v3 were generated totally from scratch, the prompts listed in each image are actually accurate to the image. You can open the game files and if you're using the png version you should be able to drag any image into the "PNG info" tab on a1111/webui forge, and the prompt I used for the image will be there. If you have the webp version, all the info is contained in the .txt file included alongside the images.

So, all in all, for this image:



The prompt in the pnginfo/txt file is:

anthro, sy-doe, furry female, cute, chibi, petite, animal crossing, deer, doe, tan fur, light countershading, blonde hair, hair tuft, brown eyes, 2 horns, red horns, short horns, light muzzle, dipstick ears, dark ear tips, flat chest, hooves, scut tail, futanari, full body, outdoors, blush, solo, blue dress, sundress, spaghetti straps, bottomless, large penis, equine penis, medial ring, dark penis, huge balls, dark balls

Thus the actual prompt you would write in the prompt section of a1111/webui forge is:

anthro, sy-doe, furry female, cute, chibi, petite, animal crossing, deer, doe, tan fur, light countershading, blonde hair, hair tuft, brown eyes, 2 horns, red horns, short horns, light muzzle, dipstick ears, dark ear tips, flat chest, hooves, scut tail, futanari, full body, outdoors, blush, solo, blue dress, sundress, spaghetti straps, bottomless, large penis, equine penis, medial ring, dark penis, huge balls, dark balls, <lora:Syurofluff v7.2 128x64-000040:0.8> syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest


Doing the same thing with this image:


The full prompt you would write is:

anthro, sy-foxm, furry male, cute, girly, femboy, shortstack, animal crossing, wide hips, thick thighs, fox, bald, yellow fur, white countershading, purple eyeshadow, shy, dipstick ears, pricked ears, dark ear tips, light muzzle, dark paws, fluffy tail, dipstick tail, black tail tip, from behind, lying, on back, big anus, puffy anus, ass focus, big butt, backsack, indoors, sleeping, closed eyes, shade, flaccid, bed, bedsheet, pillow, lying on stomach, solo, black shirt, long sleeves, bottomless, small penis, humanoid penis, foreskin, balls, <lora:Syurofluff v7.2 128x64-000040:0.8> syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest

I'll update the guide soon but everything after the "Negative Tags" section is still accurate. However! This model was only made for Syrup Town image generation, so it's actually worse than my pony models at several things. It's worse at drawing humans, can't do female POV shots, and struggles more with various tags. I think it's a nice quality jump though.

I need to clean and polish all my older training data and make a new general model like I had for Pony, but given there's thousands of images in there it could take a while. This model's a fine placeholder in the meantime.

Yeah, thinking about it while trying to fall asleep it immediately jumped out at me that's what you were doing.

The question is why? The two are mutually exclusive. You only need two variables if both true and/or both false is a valid state but they aren't.

Just using one variable and replacing the:


with:


seems like it would prevent a lot of this bullshit and let the gender swap cheat more reliably fix the flag if it gets corrupted. It would take some effort to go back and change all of Angela, Bluebell, and Cayenne's scenes, but will probably save a lot of headache in the future.

See that's definitely the smarter way to go and I'm not 100% sure why I didn't do that at the start. My guess is that at one point I did plan to do that, the expression sets for Angelica are named "clothing" and "clothing-meat", suggesting vegetarian would have been the default.

I assume I did it to avoid getting confused over which was the default. Plus, there are a lot of images where I prefer to sort images into their sex category, and for whatever reason
img1-meat
img2-meat
img3-meat
img1-veggie
img2-veggie
img3-veggie

Is easier for my brain to parse than
img1
img1-meat
img2
img2-meat
etc

Going back seems like it'd just introduce more chances for something old to break, plus it wouldn't have solved any of these issues:
* Angelica's trophy image not changing was because I had accidentally set her .js file's loading instructions wrong, it was selecting her image based on sex and then loading it into the achievement array, where it -should- only select when it needs to be displayed.
* Most of the gender bugs would have still happened (and have been harder to notice) since the real issue was the game not restarting properly.
* The images displaying the wrong sex were because I called for the wrong image:
im mayor/wall5-meat ?flag mayor meat;
im mayor/wall5-meat ?flag mayor veggie;

Now that the title screen enforces sex as an exclusive it's effectively the same. Plus, I often write on my phone and have trouble remembering variable names, so being able to use either ?meat & !meat, and ?meat & ?veggie works better for me.

I try to just do whatever I find most intuitive so that if I come back after a long gap I'm less likely to need to study to get back into the swing of things.

Just based on a few minutes of thought:
....
Moving dicks to their own selection separate from pants lets you do alternate dicks like the different sizes or animal dicks more easily, and lets you have combos like giant dick and skirt that are currently impossible.

This list is a good idea, though I've also gotten feedback that I should add a way to make all of the clothing non-exclusive with each other so that players could wear a jacket over their shirt, which would work best with the current layer system. I'd still need to have some kind of layer selection though, otherwise the accessories layer would be exclusive with each other and you couldn't wear a hat and glasses.

Dick layer hides when any bottomwear with a bulge is present. (Could also split it further and have separate dick and balls options.)

The order of the three layer 5's is controlled by the player (could probably be simplified to tuck toggles), so they can choose if they want to tuck a shirt into their pants and pants into boots, rather than having to hardcode behaviors for each possible combination.

The current accessories don't mind being that far down, but if something like necklaces are added they would want an Accessories2 layer in the '5' group so they could be worn under or over the shirt.

In retrospect, yeah, 100% the smartest idea would have been to have the dick drawn by default as its own layer that can be hidden by clothes. I'll need to re-do it because the preview system is currently way too janky anyways. Allowing the player to do that manually does reveal that the pussy is there by default though, hrm.

I was hoping I'd come up with a system I could use for future games like Argent Science, but using paperdolls means that if I want more breast sizes I need to generate a whole new set of topwear for each of them.

Very early on I was choosing between manually generating an image for each color of clothing, or just using CSS filters. I wish I had picked the first because while it's more work it would allow me to output a character as a stable diffusion prompt, allowing players to generate their character. To do that now though I'd need to go back and add a color or prompt tag to every piece of clothing and variant manually.

Also minor option QoL idea: add the option to swap genders to the wardrobe when the "jiggly bits" cheat is active as an alternative to hiking all the way to the Mayor's office and back.

Good idea, I'll add that.

I'll chime in and say, I would be quite excited about that permit.

Also, makes me wonder if that Hex-Outfit is a coincidence or a cheeky nod?

If you're referencing Hex-kun, the similarity is a coincidence, I had the glasses on and needed something that looked passingly like her dress, though I am a fan of sexthehex and actually did draw a piece of hex-kun fanart a few years back:



I don't really post in there anymore, I'm more a porn dev for the dev part, not so much the porn part, so I could never really keep up with the raunchier discussions. I do like their work and I definitely respect their level of passion, they're a lot more extroverted than I am and deserve a bigger following.

Though they're really close with a lot of artists who've been directly impacted by the rise of AI art. Given that I'm not only making a game with it, but actively making tutorials to make it more accessible, we're probably on very different life paths. I wish them the best, even if that sounds hollow from someone who probably contributed to the lives of their friends getting harder >.<

Speaking as a product of the modern internet, I will also throw my vote in towards the addition of a permit like that. Giving every possible encounter a penis to compare, contrast, and collect images of sounds like nothing but a win in my book.


I'm also really looking forward to the female player character route. While I like seeing penises on just about everything, having the dynamic flipped around so everything and everyone is trying to find opportunities to insert themselves into whatever holes I happen to have would be fun in all kinds of ways. Going from a carefree predator, to at-times-naive prey surrounded by horny beasts.

I mean, I'm aware it's probably not going to be quite so cut and dry in either direction, and there will probably be lots of femdom player themes in the female player route still. But at least personally, I'm looking forward to scenes in which I'm not the one scheming or seducing or calling the shots- just happily going along with someone else's domineering sleaze for funsies. (How many lewd games can you play in which you're the one doing all the work, wooing and grinding stats and completing quests for a peck on the cheek, before you wish that maybe some times, characters could pursue you instead?)


It feels less like a generic wish fulfillment power fantasy, and more like something naughty and taboo that way too. The mayor inviting female humans into town solely to have them effectively serve as cumdumps for the nonhuman residents. Even if that's not her end goal, she'd probably be keenly aware that's a likely possibility given how human pheromones impact the residents, so short of giving the human a doggy whistle to get out of situations she doesn't want to be in, she's basically throwing the human to the wolves. The sacrifice of a human woman to reinvigorate the rest of the population's sex drives. Touches on some naughty ideas and kinks, and could result in an overly receptive player character becoming more of a public use fucktoy as even the mayor normalizes overly casual sex with them whenever and wherever. Really hard to capture that same thrill when scenes revolve around people going nuts for your nut- having people eager to bounce on your cock has very different societal implications and feelings surrounding it than having people eager to rail your pussy.

But well, I get that not everyone is keen on being objectified or gets aroused over being exploited. So I'm not going to hold my breath or anything. I'm excited about the possibilities, but not delusional.

Thank you for your feedback! I was wondering people were hoping for from a femc route, up until now I was considering basically no changes outside of the ero scenes involving the player's dick. Fellatio becomes cunnilingus, and several scenes would involve you wearing a strap-on.

So, structurally, characters kinda go like this:
- Intro
- Character starts feeling heat
- Character goes a bit nuts
- Character finally gets their 'itch' fully 'scratched'
- Character is mostly back to normal, inviting you to their home but still being pretty lewd (Angelica being the exception here)

I think because I'm still introducing the cast, most of the content is in those first few sections, leading to this feeling that the town is devolving into what will soon be a constant orgy, but it'll actually relax more and more as time goes on. Going from sexually unaware, going through an awakening, then being fuckbuddies.

But that doesn't seem like that would capture what you're talking about. Angelica didn't actually expect anyone would breed with the human at all. She figured folks would go from "zero sex drive icky yucky" to "sex is fine I could go for starting a family I guess", and is shocked to realize everyone wants to be with the human and not with anyone else. She -might- be willing to throw someone to the wolves after she's already started cracking from the heat, but certainly not before ever meeting you.

Plus almost all of the characters are interested in you as a human for reasons outside of sex, the current cast would probably not like their old passions and hobbies overturned by a massive libido. And really, you just need to be nearby. You could peg them, give them a hand, let them grind on you, or even just sit down and watch them and they'd be able to get off.

With the current cast/script, the protag having a pussy just means a bunch of the cast would be virgin-level quickshots who'd bring you gifts just to stick their face in your cleavage, which is why I was thinking the routes would be very similar. The femc would still be the same (potentially insane uranium eater with multiple felony charges) person with a "yeah sex is great and all, but can I fluff your tail?" mindset. Jasper and marlow would still be pushovers, Helena would still be a service subby top, though maybe Riley and Sharly would be a bit more dominant?

Really though, the biggest issue I'm trying to wrap my brain around is how to handle these extra routes at all. That's the biggest thing holding the non-furry and femc routes back. Keeping the femc and non-furry routes always up to date would delay every update, I'd rather deal with them separately and have smaller, more consistent output. And I don't know how F95zone would feel if I split them into totally separate games using the same thread, or if that would even be allowed.

Maybe I just disable the furry mode and femc content except in updates get them up to date?

Can we get back the tanned skin color?

It's theoretically possible though I felt it looked really ugly and went with an actual skintone. I'd need to make an image with that skin color, generate the expressions for it (expressions carry part of the skin with them:


make versions of the clothes that change with skin color like the thighhighs, and also change the intro to add a third skin tone option button that'd look alright on both desktop and mobile

Or maybe add it as a shop item? I was thinking I need some way to change skin color like I can for gender. I think the code allows for it without too much issue, though I wonder if it'd introduce some bugs...

 

[nobody140]

Would you ever consider adding a chef character whose main theme is putting cum into their food? They could feed their cum to the MC and have the MC put their cum into the food and pass it out to all the villagers or something along those lines.

 

[R08013r]

If you're referencing Hex-kun

Oh no, I was merely trying to make a joke about the Hex-Maniac have a Monster-Fucker-Permit, as there is a reasonably(unreasonably?) large amount of pictures of her, well, fucking monsters and the like.

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

Would you ever consider adding a chef character whose main theme is putting cum into their food? They could feed their cum to the MC and have the MC put their cum into the food and pass it out to all the villagers or something along those lines.

It's totally possible:



Maybe as a sidequest or something similar to the wallbutts. I really like doing the "You've gained the ability to do X!" and then you can do it to all the townsfolk with enough of a unique niche between all of them that each scene feels different. Bluebell involving sex toys, Sorbet focusing on anal, Sharly's masochism, Riley teasing, Helena being the game's token top, etc.

Though there's not actually that much to do with the idea that I can think of. It seems like a small cool thing like adding a "pet the dog" button:



I don't know about adding a dedicated chef character though, it seems like too small a design space.

EDIT: Oh, I totally forgot the second part about the player eating. Probably not, I can only generate the player in one specific pose, and that's def a lot more niche anyways. It's not impossible, just more work for less payoff. Maybe the femc versions of the scenes would have it? That's at least an area where each character can stand out a little, so lemme think. Off the top of my head:

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Oh no, I was merely trying to make a joke about the Hex-Maniac have a Monster-Fucker-Permit, as there is a reasonably(unreasonably?) large amount of pictures of her, well, fucking monsters and the like.

Oh yeah then the hair is a reference to her, it's even called hex-masc and hex-fem in the game files, I thought you were referencing SexTheHex's oc.

They have a similar semi-funny tone to the way I try to write Syrup Town, I especially recommend their work "There Are Well Hung Elf Women Everywhere But I’m Not Gay!"

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Though you may want to filter out some tags if you explore the rest of their work.

 

[TFFBladez]

Alright today I bring you the Illustrious model I've been cooking with:
Mega

(Best imo at strength 0.8)

Right now I'm currently using this checkpoint:

You must be registered to see the links

It's based off a checkpoint called an Illustrious model, so we call it an Illustrious Checkpoint. As compared to PrefectPony, which is a Pony Diffusion Checkpoint. The differences, thankfully, are very minor. You use pretty much the exact same settings I laid out in the guide for any sdxl/pony checkpoint, it's just that:
* Pony Diffusion LoRa models don't always play nice with Illustrious checkpoints
* The quality tags are listed at the end of the prompt instead of the start.

For syrup town I use these quality keywords:

syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest

And this negative prompt:

lowres, realistic, (worst quality, bad quality:1.2), bad anatomy, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, old, oldest, censored, mosaic censorship, bar_censor, conjoined, patreon username, patreon logo, text, japanese text, english text, comic, multiple views, monochrome, sketch, sketchy, manly, masculine, masculine male, bara, pectorals, small anus, small nipples, tearing up, tanlines, red eyelashes, 5 fingers, 5 toes

Because new images in v3 were generated totally from scratch, the prompts listed in each image are actually accurate to the image. You can open the game files and if you're using the png version you should be able to drag any image into the "PNG info" tab on a1111/webui forge, and the prompt I used for the image will be there. If you have the webp version, all the info is contained in the .txt file included alongside the images.

So, all in all, for this image:
View attachment 4800888


The prompt in the pnginfo/txt file is:

anthro, sy-doe, furry female, cute, chibi, petite, animal crossing, deer, doe, tan fur, light countershading, blonde hair, hair tuft, brown eyes, 2 horns, red horns, short horns, light muzzle, dipstick ears, dark ear tips, flat chest, hooves, scut tail, futanari, full body, outdoors, blush, solo, blue dress, sundress, spaghetti straps, bottomless, large penis, equine penis, medial ring, dark penis, huge balls, dark balls

Thus the actual prompt you would write in the prompt section of a1111/webui forge is:

anthro, sy-doe, furry female, cute, chibi, petite, animal crossing, deer, doe, tan fur, light countershading, blonde hair, hair tuft, brown eyes, 2 horns, red horns, short horns, light muzzle, dipstick ears, dark ear tips, flat chest, hooves, scut tail, futanari, full body, outdoors, blush, solo, blue dress, sundress, spaghetti straps, bottomless, large penis, equine penis, medial ring, dark penis, huge balls, dark balls, <lora:Syurofluff v7.2 128x64-000040:0.8> syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest


Doing the same thing with this image:
View attachment 4800887

The full prompt you would write is:

anthro, sy-foxm, furry male, cute, girly, femboy, shortstack, animal crossing, wide hips, thick thighs, fox, bald, yellow fur, white countershading, purple eyeshadow, shy, dipstick ears, pricked ears, dark ear tips, light muzzle, dark paws, fluffy tail, dipstick tail, black tail tip, from behind, lying, on back, big anus, puffy anus, ass focus, big butt, backsack, indoors, sleeping, closed eyes, shade, flaccid, bed, bedsheet, pillow, lying on stomach, solo, black shirt, long sleeves, bottomless, small penis, humanoid penis, foreskin, balls, <lora:Syurofluff v7.2 128x64-000040:0.8> syuro, uncensored, masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest

I'll update the guide soon but everything after the "Negative Tags" section is still accurate. However! This model was only made for Syrup Town image generation, so it's actually worse than my pony models at several things. It's worse at drawing humans, can't do female POV shots, and struggles more with various tags. I think it's a nice quality jump though.

I need to clean and polish all my older training data and make a new general model like I had for Pony, but given there's thousands of images in there it could take a while. This model's a fine placeholder in the meantime.



See that's definitely the smarter way to go and I'm not 100% sure why I didn't do that at the start. My guess is that at one point I did plan to do that, the expression sets for Angelica are named "clothing" and "clothing-meat", suggesting vegetarian would have been the default.

I assume I did it to avoid getting confused over which was the default. Plus, there are a lot of images where I prefer to sort images into their sex category, and for whatever reason
img1-meat
img2-meat
img3-meat
img1-veggie
img2-veggie
img3-veggie

Is easier for my brain to parse than
img1
img1-meat
img2
img2-meat
etc

Going back seems like it'd just introduce more chances for something old to break, plus it wouldn't have solved any of these issues:
* Angelica's trophy image not changing was because I had accidentally set her .js file's loading instructions wrong, it was selecting her image based on sex and then loading it into the achievement array, where it -should- only select when it needs to be displayed.
* Most of the gender bugs would have still happened (and have been harder to notice) since the real issue was the game not restarting properly.
* The images displaying the wrong sex were because I called for the wrong image:
im mayor/wall5-meat ?flag mayor meat;
im mayor/wall5-meat ?flag mayor veggie;

Now that the title screen enforces sex as an exclusive it's effectively the same. Plus, I often write on my phone and have trouble remembering variable names, so being able to use either ?meat & !meat, and ?meat & ?veggie works better for me.

I try to just do whatever I find most intuitive so that if I come back after a long gap I'm less likely to need to study to get back into the swing of things.



This list is a good idea, though I've also gotten feedback that I should add a way to make all of the clothing non-exclusive with each other so that players could wear a jacket over their shirt, which would work best with the current layer system. I'd still need to have some kind of layer selection though, otherwise the accessories layer would be exclusive with each other and you couldn't wear a hat and glasses.



In retrospect, yeah, 100% the smartest idea would have been to have the dick drawn by default as its own layer that can be hidden by clothes. I'll need to re-do it because the preview system is currently way too janky anyways. Allowing the player to do that manually does reveal that the pussy is there by default though, hrm.

I was hoping I'd come up with a system I could use for future games like Argent Science, but using paperdolls means that if I want more breast sizes I need to generate a whole new set of topwear for each of them.

Very early on I was choosing between manually generating an image for each color of clothing, or just using CSS filters. I wish I had picked the first because while it's more work it would allow me to output a character as a stable diffusion prompt, allowing players to generate their character. To do that now though I'd need to go back and add a color or prompt tag to every piece of clothing and variant manually.



Good idea, I'll add that.



If you're referencing Hex-kun, the similarity is a coincidence, I had the glasses on and needed something that looked passingly like her dress, though I am a fan of sexthehex and actually did draw a piece of hex-kun fanart a few years back:

View attachment 4800903

I don't really post in there anymore, I'm more a porn dev for the dev part, not so much the porn part, so I could never really keep up with the raunchier discussions. I do like their work and I definitely respect their level of passion, they're a lot more extroverted than I am and deserve a bigger following.

Though they're really close with a lot of artists who've been directly impacted by the rise of AI art. Given that I'm not only making a game with it, but actively making tutorials to make it more accessible, we're probably on very different life paths. I wish them the best, even if that sounds hollow from someone who probably contributed to the lives of their friends getting harder >.<



Thank you for your feedback! I was wondering people were hoping for from a femc route, up until now I was considering basically no changes outside of the ero scenes involving the player's dick. Fellatio becomes cunnilingus, and several scenes would involve you wearing a strap-on.

So, structurally, characters kinda go like this:
- Intro
- Character starts feeling heat
- Character goes a bit nuts
- Character finally gets their 'itch' fully 'scratched'
- Character is mostly back to normal, inviting you to their home but still being pretty lewd (Angelica being the exception here)

I think because I'm still introducing the cast, most of the content is in those first few sections, leading to this feeling that the town is devolving into what will soon be a constant orgy, but it'll actually relax more and more as time goes on. Going from sexually unaware, going through an awakening, then being fuckbuddies.

But that doesn't seem like that would capture what you're talking about. Angelica didn't actually expect anyone would breed with the human at all. She figured folks would go from "zero sex drive icky yucky" to "sex is fine I could go for starting a family I guess", and is shocked to realize everyone wants to be with the human and not with anyone else. She -might- be willing to throw someone to the wolves after she's already started cracking from the heat, but certainly not before ever meeting you.

Plus almost all of the characters are interested in you as a human for reasons outside of sex, the current cast would probably not like their old passions and hobbies overturned by a massive libido. And really, you just need to be nearby. You could peg them, give them a hand, let them grind on you, or even just sit down and watch them and they'd be able to get off.

With the current cast/script, the protag having a pussy just means a bunch of the cast would be virgin-level quickshots who'd bring you gifts just to stick their face in your cleavage, which is why I was thinking the routes would be very similar. The femc would still be the same (potentially insane uranium eater with multiple felony charges) person with a "yeah sex is great and all, but can I fluff your tail?" mindset. Jasper and marlow would still be pushovers, Helena would still be a service subby top, though maybe Riley and Sharly would be a bit more dominant?

Really though, the biggest issue I'm trying to wrap my brain around is how to handle these extra routes at all. That's the biggest thing holding the non-furry and femc routes back. Keeping the femc and non-furry routes always up to date would delay every update, I'd rather deal with them separately and have smaller, more consistent output. And I don't know how F95zone would feel if I split them into totally separate games using the same thread, or if that would even be allowed.

Maybe I just disable the furry mode and femc content except in updates get them up to date?



It's theoretically possible though I felt it looked really ugly and went with an actual skintone. I'd need to make an image with that skin color, generate the expressions for it (expressions carry part of the skin with them:

View attachment 4800960
make versions of the clothes that change with skin color like the thighhighs, and also change the intro to add a third skin tone option button that'd look alright on both desktop and mobile

Or maybe add it as a shop item? I was thinking I need some way to change skin color like I can for gender. I think the code allows for it without too much issue, though I wonder if it'd introduce some bugs...

I prefer it and it actually is closer to my natural skin tone. my skin is naturally a tanned color since I am half black and half white. so neither option of white or black appeal to me. also will there be an item later on that can be bought to change things like player skin tone / gender?

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

I prefer it and it actually is closer to my natural skin tone. my skin is naturally a tanned color since I am half black and half white. so neither option of white or black appeal to me. also will there be an item later on that can be bought to change things like player skin tone / gender?

Some quick experiments trying to get the color right:

How do these look?

I don't know yet how I'll handle that. If I add I'll probably add a cheat code to change skin just like gender, though gender is easier since it's a binary toggle. Maybe I can add it to the layers screen?

 

[sp1234]

any new character in this update all ? i read in here are the wall fuck thing

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

any new character in this update all ? i read in here are the wall fuck thing

No not yet, I redid the game's art again. The next update isn't too far but I want to do one at least every month and while I have parts of her written and generated Helena isn't quite done yet.

 

[TFFBladez]

Some quick experiments trying to get the color right:
View attachment 4801052 View attachment 4801050
How do these look?

I don't know yet how I'll handle that. If I add I'll probably add a cheat code to change skin just like gender, though gender is easier since it's a binary toggle. Maybe I can add it to the layers screen?

The same shade as it was previously. I would say a bit darker if not around that.

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

The same shade as it was previously. I would say a bit darker if not around that.

Unfortunately I can't specify hex codes but I went and tried to match the older skin more closely, how does this look?

 

[Felkesste]

Thank you for your feedback! I was wondering people were hoping for from a femc route, up until now I was considering basically no changes outside of the ero scenes involving the player's dick. Fellatio becomes cunnilingus, and several scenes would involve you wearing a strap-on.

To offer some random bits and pieces of my own preferences based on some existing scenes in the game already as an example:

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I can't speak for everyone, and I'm sure there's lots of folks that prefer a more dominant protagonist regardless of gender, but in my mind being 100% pure female means being pursued by anything with a dick and a functional libido. Being in a role that way more closely resembles prey than predator, since everyone else is constantly trying to convince you that you should be taking their cock with as little long term commitment as they can manage to get away with. Treating you like you're there to satisfy their desires and fulfill their fantasies, rather than someone just living your life. (The way different genders get treated and all that. Not a fun discussion in the context of reality, but games are interactive fantasies that can even make things like getting shot at fun.)

I figure that the protagonist's ditzy, fluff-huffing personality would make her very conveniently naive and easily swayed into satisfying cocks a lot of the time, while still being more or less the same exact person when the lewd is over and done with. No matter how many times she gets dicked down, she'd be the kind of oddball that recovers and just starts fishing immediately afterwards with a carefree smile as though she didn't have copious amounts of someone's semen coating her. Resilient if not outright immune to being sexually mindbroken, but also surprisingly easy to convince to please dicks.

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I don't figure any of the residents of the town are bad people though, for the record. They're all great friends, neighbors, and potential lovers in their own ways, I figure that like horny teenagers discovering sex for the first time, they get swept up in their desires and carried away easily. I brought up the mayor throwing to the wolves more as a lewd daydream than an actual appraisal of Angelica as a person.

When the protagonist has a penis, then from the player character's perspective it's pretty empowering and adorable having everyone drooling over your cock- but from a female perspective, constantly being greeted by the sight of erect dicks and hungry leers is a lot more objectifying and naughty in the best of ways. (Again, at least it is in my mind, I can't speak for everyone.)
I lean way more towards submissive and masochistic content as I'm sure I've inadvertantly made painfully obvious. So all my thoughts on the FeMC alternate universe involve wandering around wearing rabbit ears and a bunny tail, living the life of an upbeat and naive 'prey animal' getting bred by anything and everything with a cock. Living a life where even the other females in town get drunk on pheromones and decide that they find it incredibly sexy to watch the protagonist get fucked, and luring them into situations where they can enjoy the show.

 

[TFFBladez]

Unfortunately I can't specify hex codes but I went and tried to match the older skin more closely, how does this look?

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somewhere between this one and the last one. Also for helena will we be the top? I am asking based off that POV image.

 

[NoodleJacuzzi]

Very good progress today! So far I have:
* Fixed the game so that even if you have the wrong index.html, the game should still load just fine.
* Fixed the images xxxthrowawaypornxxx noticed were wrong (here's some now

* Updated all 21 tarot cards:

* Added veggie versions of the tarot cards which means no more missing cards for vegetarian players.
* Upgraded the random encounter shots the same way I did the core cast images.

* Redid the intro shots of Bluebell's brother.
* Added some new colors for the Hexy and Princess haircuts.
* Fixed a number of bugs and typos OrangeMaestro found.

To offer some random bits and pieces of my own preferences based on some existing scenes in the game already as an example:

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I can't speak for everyone, and I'm sure there's lots of folks that prefer a more dominant protagonist regardless of gender, but in my mind being 100% pure female means being pursued by anything with a dick and a functional libido. Being in a role that way more closely resembles prey than predator, since everyone else is constantly trying to convince you that you should be taking their cock with as little long term commitment as they can manage to get away with. Treating you like you're there to satisfy their desires and fulfill their fantasies, rather than someone just living your life. (The way different genders get treated and all that. Not a fun discussion in the context of reality, but games are interactive fantasies that can even make things like getting shot at fun.)

I figure that the protagonist's ditzy, fluff-huffing personality would make her very conveniently naive and easily swayed into satisfying cocks a lot of the time, while still being more or less the same exact person when the lewd is over and done with. No matter how many times she gets dicked down, she'd be the kind of oddball that recovers and just starts fishing immediately afterwards with a carefree smile as though she didn't have copious amounts of someone's semen coating her. Resilient if not outright immune to being sexually mindbroken, but also surprisingly easy to convince to please dicks.

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I don't figure any of the residents of the town are bad people though, for the record. They're all great friends, neighbors, and potential lovers in their own ways, I figure that like horny teenagers discovering sex for the first time, they get swept up in their desires and carried away easily. I brought up the mayor throwing to the wolves more as a lewd daydream than an actual appraisal of Angelica as a person.

When the protagonist has a penis, then from the player character's perspective it's pretty empowering and adorable having everyone drooling over your cock- but from a female perspective, constantly being greeted by the sight of erect dicks and hungry leers is a lot more objectifying and naughty in the best of ways. (Again, at least it is in my mind, I can't speak for everyone.)
I lean way more towards submissive and masochistic content as I'm sure I've inadvertantly made painfully obvious. So all my thoughts on the FeMC alternate universe involve wandering around wearing rabbit ears and a bunny tail, living the life of an upbeat and naive 'prey animal' getting bred by anything and everything with a cock. Living a life where even the other females in town get drunk on pheromones and decide that they find it incredibly sexy to watch the protagonist get fucked, and luring them into situations where they can enjoy the show.

Man I love getting feedback this detailed! I'm a sucker for enthusiasm, I started a playthrough last night and got started writing the femc route, specifically noting down what needs changing scene by scene.

Most stuff outside of the lewd scenes seems like it can stay the same, but I noticed that it if I do that it becomes hard for me to capture that tone you're mentioning.

I've never actually done lesbian content (I think? I've been at this for years now, maybe I'm forgetting), so when it came to Sorbet my instinct was to leave her mostly the same, with Sorbet noticing you enjoy playing with her butt, the route ended up nearly identical though I haven't made it to her repeatables and stuff. It doesn't help that female pov lesbian stuff is hard to generate. :/

Riley went about how you describe him, just like Sorbet his whole intro sequence up to becoming friends is very similar. Though he is aware you're more interested in his fluff than dick. But since his seduction attempts end in him breaking and admitting defeat, and since he's already on such a hair trigger when he arrives at your home, it feels less like a wolf losing himself and attacking you and more like a desperate femboy finally playing into the submissive role so you'll get him off. I haven't decided exactly how that scene should play out, though I'm leaning towards you letting him hump your leg and then a pov footjob.

Sharly seemed like it would be dramatically different, as I wanted her to try and summon your inner dominance so you'll be able to stand up for yourself before the town goes into a breeding frenzy, only to start tapping into a sadistic side she didn't know she had. But just like the others, scene-wise she plays out very similar to the male route and will probably only deviate significantly after her intro where you and her have become friends. When looking at the morning cunnilingus scene especially, even if I have Sharly directly bring up the fact that animal folk men could break in the same way she did, the protagonist being nonplussed meams it lacks that feeling of vulnerability.

All in all the routes don't diverge too heavily, at least by the point where the current male protag route is at right now. The FeMC interacts, plays with, and tries to help the folks as they crack under the heat, and after that things reach a status quo where in the future the now more comfortable-in-their-own-skin folks will last longer and try out dominating you for a change.

This is great for me as it means that if I do try making FeMC content soon, it'll be waaaay more managable than I thought and I can dip my toes into it without the huge investment I thought I'd have to put in. But as a result the protag feels a lot less prey animal and more, well...

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... Okay maybe not -that- much, but still. On one hand it really doesn't capture what you're mentioning, though on the other hand with the cast acclimating to their heat and testing their limits with you, it does give the impression that one day the protagonist will realize she bit off way more than she can chew.

Prime example is Cayenne, I ended up going in a different direction. As he's not interested in his lust at all at first, and since that bed scene is his first one it ends up being that the femc goes a bit nuts playing with his, well, nuts.

I will say, I'm definitely removing the ability to choose system character sex in the FeMC route. I already can't even think of an interesting way to do 4 female characters (Mary-Lou will probably just be totally gone), let alone 7. They'll all have dicks, which means no vegetarian route for girls.

In addition to the other things I did today, I also redid the female POV shots I posted a bit ago, specifically so I can include them in my training data to find more scenes I can do as the FeMC:


Of course it won't all be pov shots. I'm working on ones where it has the protag's face in a cutaway frame, and ones where the protag's head is out of frame. Because I'm only able to generate the protagonist in one front-facing position, I have to be creative with how I put them in or keep them out of shots.

And on your headcannon, man am I glad I kept the protag being crazy vague, that's a really cool idea! I still plan on keeping it vague as to whether the protagonist actually is crazy/joking, but honestly I think I may just adopt that headcannon. In my unfinished ideas box I have characters from An*mal Cr*ssing visiting the town incognito (Angelica is wildly jealous of a certain blonde dog), so I wonder how that interaction would go.

In thanks for your invaluable feedback, I made a leotard and bunny ears for the next update:

somewhere between this one and the last one. Also for helena will we be the top? I am asking based off that POV image.

I couldn't get it darker without the AI going full nubian, sorry T.T I even tried editting it manually but I kept losing detail or getting an awful shade of orange. Plus I have to consider what shades the AI can do naturally, so that when I go back and make dark-skinned versions of all the scenes where the protagonist's dick or hands are visible, the smoother that process goes the better.

Here's the skintone in some different costumes as penance:



Helena will be a top, a lot of people were requesting as such. I also re-did a bunch of her taker pov shots I posted earlier:



Though these shots were giving me a lot of trouble, the last one especially. I'll need to include more training data on it.

Plus I like that each of the core cast members has their own distinct niche. That makes it so that whenever I do a concept like wallbutts, it's easier to write:

* Angelica is constantly horny and pent-up
* Bluebell involves porn and/or sex toys
* Cayenne is sleepy and very laid back
* Jasper and Garnet do threesomes and twin stuff
* Sorbet focuses heavily on anal
* Sharly has a monopoly on femdom and/or leans into her masochism
* Mary-Lou's preggers
* Khanna has less of a unique niche, though she's very into worship and BHC play
* Riley teases the player and is a big-dicked sub
* Marlow is all about him being a sissy, even having a maid outfit and chastity cage
* Helena will be the game's go-to top, though she's more of a submissive service top unless she's cracked and pounces the player
* Nutmeg and Cinnamon are a package deal, so while they also focus on threesomes the size difference and mother-daughter incest make them stand out from Jasper and Garnet. Plus Nutmeg's got a full foot of schmeat.

I like this arrangement since it means that even if you aren't into getting topped by Helena, there's still plenty of other subbier meat characters for carnivores to enjoy.

 

[mytalv]

I couldn't get it darker without the AI going full nubian, sorry T.T I even tried editting it manually but I kept losing detail or getting an awful shade of orange. Plus I have to consider what shades the AI can do naturally, so that when I go back and make dark-skinned versions of all the scenes where the protagonist's dick or hands are visible, the smoother that process goes the better.

Here's the skintone in some different costumes as penance:

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Thank you for actually trying and working on darker skin tones and not just leaving us out in the dust, you're a blessing. This whole update is soooo good and can't wait to see what you have in store for the future.

 

[Felkesste]

Man I love getting feedback this detailed! I'm a sucker for enthusiasm, I started a playthrough last night and got started writing the femc route, specifically noting down what needs changing scene by scene.

I'm glad to have been of help, and I'm feeling very smug about having some bunny ears added to the game in return for my gabbing. Heh.

It's definitely way easier to write characters or lewd scenes when you have specific personalities, archetypes or whatever else to draw on. A blank canvas sounds all well and good at first, but when you can have absolutely anything, nothing ends up coming to mind and what does might just be disjointed and out of place. I guess my personal advice for writing scenes for the characters you have a hard time with is to choose a kink they can end up representing. To offer more ideas, (and this ended up being a total wall, sorry about that!):

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In my mind, the ideal FeMC route involves being taken advantage of a lot.
The penis-toting protagonist doesn't really stand to lose anything, and most people view obsessing over someone else's penis to be a very humiliating and disempowering thing to do- so the villagers have lots of reasons to show restraint and resist bouncing on your penis every chance they get. Angelica has her pride, and so the chances of her trying to offer a penis-toting protagonist some money in exchange for letting her ride it doesn't seem as likely to me as offering someone money to suck her off. Same with Sharly. Their default predisposition towards the player character's genitals are, "I am better than that. I will not succumb to the temptation of that penis."

But a FeMC doesn't have that same societal buffer, it is far less humiliating and disempowering to seduce and rail a female, if anything that usually only brings on a sense of pride and conquest. Rather than trying to restrain themselves and pull away from those thoughts, it would be far more tempting for them to embrace them and normalize casual and irresponsible sex with the FeMC- cumming inside willy nilly because their newly awakened mating instincts demand it, or 'marking' the FeMC with their loads, (something that the protagonist might only complain about insofar as it leads to a lot more laundry troubles, as some of that cum doesn't wash off so easily).
The villagers don't end up feeling as dirty afterward as they likely would for 'losing to a penis', they instead feel a little rush of pride and conquest, 'claiming the FeMC'. Even Riley wouldn't be questioning why he would be getting attracted to someone else's cock, he wouldn't have any reason to question his attraction to a female, so there'd be way less doubt and hesitation. He'd default to thoughts on how to make the FeMC fall for him the instant he noticed his own attraction, rather than trying to convince himself he's not drooling over a derpy uncute human's fat cock. (At least, I would think that'd be the case. Psychological and societal differences and whatnot.) I guess he'd still have a bit of a fall from grace in that his smug confidence he'd be able to turn the FeMC into a total sucker for his penis falls apart as the FeMC- (who is probably growing increasingly used to being pressured and pursued rather than having to take the initiative in anything for herself), doesn't end up begging for his load after being brought face to face with his dick. (Everyone sports exposed erections around her anyway, so it's not a very big deal to see Riley getting hard after all. *Nod, nod.*)

It's that mindset and experience of how it would feel to be a female that's constantly letting off heat inducing pheromones in a town full of increasingly horny furries that I'm after. Feeling like a happy go lucky 'helpless bunny'/(prey) living among 'hungry'/(horny) 'wolves'/(predators), never knowing when I'm about to get pounced on, pinned down, and bred. (Only to probably pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and continue on your way with the same smile on your face, thinking to yourself, "That sure was an experience! Wonder what that was about. I only recognized one person in that group, never met the others before in my life." Because priorities and commonsense are skewed for gamers playing games, where it's normal to throw yourself off a building and 'die' to fast travel to a respawn point rather than walk the extra two minutes. Games lead to strange behaviors and thoughts.)
But I'm aware that's perhaps not the feeling you're trying to capture with your game, so again, I'm not leaping to any assumptions about what the FeMC route is going to be like or anything- just sharing ideas and pervy hype.

 

[TFFBladez]

Very good progress today! So far I have:
* Fixed the game so that even if you have the wrong index.html, the game should still load just fine.
* Fixed the images xxxthrowawaypornxxx noticed were wrong (here's some now
View attachment 4804822 View attachment 4804823
* Updated all 21 tarot cards:
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* Added veggie versions of the tarot cards which means no more missing cards for vegetarian players.
* Upgraded the random encounter shots the same way I did the core cast images.
View attachment 4804825 View attachment 4804826
* Redid the intro shots of Bluebell's brother.
* Added some new colors for the Hexy and Princess haircuts.
* Fixed a number of bugs and typos OrangeMaestro found.



Man I love getting feedback this detailed! I'm a sucker for enthusiasm, I started a playthrough last night and got started writing the femc route, specifically noting down what needs changing scene by scene.

Most stuff outside of the lewd scenes seems like it can stay the same, but I noticed that it if I do that it becomes hard for me to capture that tone you're mentioning.

I've never actually done lesbian content (I think? I've been at this for years now, maybe I'm forgetting), so when it came to Sorbet my instinct was to leave her mostly the same, with Sorbet noticing you enjoy playing with her butt, the route ended up nearly identical though I haven't made it to her repeatables and stuff. It doesn't help that female pov lesbian stuff is hard to generate. :/

Riley went about how you describe him, just like Sorbet his whole intro sequence up to becoming friends is very similar. Though he is aware you're more interested in his fluff than dick. But since his seduction attempts end in him breaking and admitting defeat, and since he's already on such a hair trigger when he arrives at your home, it feels less like a wolf losing himself and attacking you and more like a desperate femboy finally playing into the submissive role so you'll get him off. I haven't decided exactly how that scene should play out, though I'm leaning towards you letting him hump your leg and then a pov footjob.

Sharly seemed like it would be dramatically different, as I wanted her to try and summon your inner dominance so you'll be able to stand up for yourself before the town goes into a breeding frenzy, only to start tapping into a sadistic side she didn't know she had. But just like the others, scene-wise she plays out very similar to the male route and will probably only deviate significantly after her intro where you and her have become friends. When looking at the morning cunnilingus scene especially, even if I have Sharly directly bring up the fact that animal folk men could break in the same way she did, the protagonist being nonplussed meams it lacks that feeling of vulnerability.

All in all the routes don't diverge too heavily, at least by the point where the current male protag route is at right now. The FeMC interacts, plays with, and tries to help the folks as they crack under the heat, and after that things reach a status quo where in the future the now more comfortable-in-their-own-skin folks will last longer and try out dominating you for a change.

This is great for me as it means that if I do try making FeMC content soon, it'll be waaaay more managable than I thought and I can dip my toes into it without the huge investment I thought I'd have to put in. But as a result the protag feels a lot less prey animal and more, well...

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... Okay maybe not -that- much, but still. On one hand it really doesn't capture what you're mentioning, though on the other hand with the cast acclimating to their heat and testing their limits with you, it does give the impression that one day the protagonist will realize she bit off way more than she can chew.

Prime example is Cayenne, I ended up going in a different direction. As he's not interested in his lust at all at first, and since that bed scene is his first one it ends up being that the femc goes a bit nuts playing with his, well, nuts.

I will say, I'm definitely removing the ability to choose system character sex in the FeMC route. I already can't even think of an interesting way to do 4 female characters (Mary-Lou will probably just be totally gone), let alone 7. They'll all have dicks, which means no vegetarian route for girls.

In addition to the other things I did today, I also redid the female POV shots I posted a bit ago, specifically so I can include them in my training data to find more scenes I can do as the FeMC:
View attachment 4804827 View attachment 4804828 View attachment 4804829 View attachment 4804830

Of course it won't all be pov shots. I'm working on ones where it has the protag's face in a cutaway frame, and ones where the protag's head is out of frame. Because I'm only able to generate the protagonist in one front-facing position, I have to be creative with how I put them in or keep them out of shots.

And on your headcannon, man am I glad I kept the protag being crazy vague, that's a really cool idea! I still plan on keeping it vague as to whether the protagonist actually is crazy/joking, but honestly I think I may just adopt that headcannon. In my unfinished ideas box I have characters from An*mal Cr*ssing visiting the town incognito (Angelica is wildly jealous of a certain blonde dog), so I wonder how that interaction would go.

In thanks for your invaluable feedback, I made a leotard and bunny ears for the next update:

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I couldn't get it darker without the AI going full nubian, sorry T.T I even tried editting it manually but I kept losing detail or getting an awful shade of orange. Plus I have to consider what shades the AI can do naturally, so that when I go back and make dark-skinned versions of all the scenes where the protagonist's dick or hands are visible, the smoother that process goes the better.

Here's the skintone in some different costumes as penance:

View attachment 4801708

Helena will be a top, a lot of people were requesting as such. I also re-did a bunch of her taker pov shots I posted earlier:

View attachment 4804832 View attachment 4804833 View attachment 4804834 View attachment 4804835 View attachment 4804836

Though these shots were giving me a lot of trouble, the last one especially. I'll need to include more training data on it.

Plus I like that each of the core cast members has their own distinct niche. That makes it so that whenever I do a concept like wallbutts, it's easier to write:

* Angelica is constantly horny and pent-up
* Bluebell involves porn and/or sex toys
* Cayenne is sleepy and very laid back
* Jasper and Garnet do threesomes and twin stuff
* Sorbet focuses heavily on anal
* Sharly has a monopoly on femdom and/or leans into her masochism
* Mary-Lou's preggers
* Khanna has less of a unique niche, though she's very into worship and BHC play
* Riley teases the player and is a big-dicked sub
* Marlow is all about him being a sissy, even having a maid outfit and chastity cage
* Helena will be the game's go-to top, though she's more of a submissive service top unless she's cracked and pounces the player
* Nutmeg and Cinnamon are a package deal, so while they also focus on threesomes the size difference and mother-daughter incest make them stand out from Jasper and Garnet. Plus Nutmeg's got a full foot of schmeat.

I like this arrangement since it means that even if you aren't into getting topped by Helena, there's still plenty of other subbier meat characters for carnivores to enjoy.

Thanks for the attempt and dang looks like I will be trying to avoid the heck out of her if possible then. I am not really into it even though I love the char design any thoughts on alt routes?

 

[aradinfinity]

As a switch who'd enjoy being able to have a pussy sometimes, I'm seconding Felkesste's suggestion, though I do have some ideas of my own. I'm not as eloquent, but I do have ideas for being on both ends of the dominance dynamic, as well as a more balanced one. (Plus I'd like to be able to play with all these cocks directly. All this butt stuff is fine, but I think it'd be fun once Riley breaks to have a scene with competitive frotting (say) or playing with Cayenne in their sleep.)

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I'd enjoy more submissive positions for the player regardless of genitals, whether that's service topping or proper servicing or what, but you don't need anything phallic to dom. And this is just a me thing, but I really like the jiggies and would enjoy having more of them available. Hope you're doing well!

 

[RustDust]

How much extra time does it add splitting development between a furry and non-furry version? Is there really that much demand for a non-furry version?

 

[Rexizor]

I found a bit of a bug, IDK if you're aware of it yet: On the browser version, if you save during the museum tour, loading that save will put you outside of the museum, with the tour not completed, but the tour button disabled for the rest of the day. Also, it will make attempting the tour the next day... reduce the number of areas you have to go to, assumedly based on how many you'd already done or something? I saved right before the museum sex scene, and when I reloaded, trying the tour the next day made it go straight to the end as soon as I clicked one department.

I assume this stems from some sort of general instability around saving mid-scene. I recall that being an issue in Hentai University, too, hence why that's my assumption.
If this is just a consequence of the browser version being janky and weird, let me know. The browser version is more convenient, but I'd prefer to be playing a more "stable" version if there's significant differences.

Oh, and also, it kicks you out to the title screen whenever you load, which I'm sure you're already aware of.

Side note: I wish there was a way to turn on Vegetarian/Carnivore mode for the pokeymans/tarot Cards specifically. The cock-having characters currently in the game are fine by me, but a number of the (pokeymans specifically) cards with cocks are a bit much.