Question, I downloaded the old version,Season 1-4 (v0.89.8c), why is there no netorare route?
Unity Taffy Tales [S5 v1.07.3c] [UberPie]
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- Dec 30, 2021
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I have become your predecessor that must deal with that shit LMAO. No wonder you stopped supporting UberPieHoly shit I'm glad I stopped my support, MC looks so dumb
. When I saw MC face, I just fucking laughed at how noticeable the AI art is. Uber don't even bother changing the art style.
- Jan 21, 2022
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It's just you (about Mary) - this image has familiar angles for Mary's face that the AI could generate from (instead of assembling what the algorithm's plot) and is pretty decent. Just missing a mole/freckle/beauty mark.
v0.8.1 / teaser
Peter's face is not on model.
v0.8.1 / teaser
Tiffany's face is pretty close to on model.
v0.8.1 / teaser
Because the netorare route is currently not developed in v0.89.8 (Seasons 1-4)
- May 1, 2017
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Nobody dissapointed of the glossy AI Character Art? All those glossy skins are so not natural that it is a really turnoff for me.
And yes the old Art-style without too much AI was way better.
And yes the old Art-style without too much AI was way better.
- Oct 30, 2018
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Everyone keeps asking if no one is disappointed by the AI art, clearly a lot of people are disappointed. It is apparent if you read most recent messages on here.
It’d be more fair to compare with their post-S5 models, as I’m pretty sure what Uber did was paste those on top of the AI generated image
- Jan 21, 2022
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That's because you did something you weren't supposed to at the time. A gray map usually mean an active task - so that a player doesn't fast-travel out of the place they need to complete the task. But sometimes it happens when players do something that the developer didn't code properly for.
See possible reasons: https://f95zone.to/threads/taffy-tales-s5-v1-07-3c-uberpie.9861/post-11543370
In the end, save early and save often, and then reload a previous save when something happens. This is a game in development, things break. Hell, in fully released games, things break.
The Season 5 models are AI images which are more off model than any of Uberpie's old drawn work. Also, no, those faces do not appear photoshopped into that preview image. If anything, perhaps Uberpie actually took time to edit an AI generated image, which is what he should be doing all along.
However, if he edited the faces of Mary and Tiffany to appear more like their intended character models, why wouldn't he do so for the MC? I mean, yeah, Uberpie is lazy - but even that wouldn't explain taking time to only edit 2 of the 3 faces - especially when the MC's face is one that is burned into the player's memory because it is almost always shown throughout the game. So having an off-model MC would be worse.
So, I disagree with your assertation that comparing to Season 5 is more appropriate - because the argument was that the faces in the preview do not match the "original." If you look at the posts of the person I responded to, they prefer Seasons 1-4 art over the Season 5 art - so their argument is that the preview image doesn't match the Seasons 1-4 faces. And the v0.8.1 examples are damn near the closest that one can get to "original." Season 5 is not "original," but instead are AI generated, for the most part.
In two of the three faces of the preview image, the faces are some of the better on model work Uberpie has presented for those two characters (even when it was done by Uberpie's hand - who has always been terrible about consistency if not having the chance to trace a previous work --- their own or someone else's).
- Mar 25, 2024
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I actually agree with Redelin - it's more appropriate to compare it to season 5. I realize that you were responding to a specific person who mentioned seasons 1-4, so you presented the comparison from them as well. I meant in general - in my opinion, it's more logical to compare it to season 5. After all:
1) Season 5 is the last season in the time period. This means that at least it is fresher than the others and logically should be more technically executed (that's leaving out the fact that a lot of people don't like AI). Also, since it's the last one, we can see UberPie's latest plans for the characters, I mean, for example, suddenly he decided to revise the appearance of the same Tiffany (who I really like in season 5). This is purely an example, I hope I was able to get my point across.
2) A remake is a remake to replace the old with the new. Conditionally, we have 3 drawn figures, figure 1 was drawn first, so it is not very realized. Figure 2 was after it, it is already better, but it is not figure 3, which at the moment is the peak of creativity. Yes, you'll say that AI is hard to count as creativity, but then there's no point in comparing overall, because all new art is AI. So when redrawing figure 1 it is logical to compare the quality to figure 3 and not to the old figure 1, I hope I was able to convey my position.
Also about the faces - Tiffany's face is different from both season 1-4 and season 5. But this is in my opinion, don't take it as 100% truth.
I think Peter's and Tiffany's faces were created in some new style, as well as the background, couch, table (maybe Uber changed the checkpoint AI). I think Mary's face was made on top of the finished art using one of the old checkpoints. Well, Mary and Tiffany's modeling also looks like using an old checkpoint, unlike Peter's modeling. I don't know, maybe I'm already paranoid, but I can clearly see where the drawing styles differ. I could be wrong though, it's just a guess.
- Jan 21, 2022
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I don't know why this is an argument.
My response was to a person who was complaining about the vast difference between the original character models (Seasons 1-4) to AI generated models (Season 5, specifically the image in the preview that was presented). There would be no reason to compare Season 5 to the preview image - that was not the premise presented.
The person who posted does not like the AI generated art in Season 5. That is their premise. They want Uberpie to make the art look more like Seasons 1-4.
Discussing "remake" and comparing the preview image to Season 5 art makes no sense in this conversation. That is a completely different conversation. You (and maybe Redelin) are attempting to bring in a different premise through your response.
The original premise:
Sticking to that - I answered with examples to show that:
Mary and Tiffany's faces are as on-model as one could have expected (if not more on-model) had Uberpie hand-drawn or traced them. If he used AI to generate them, great! If he went in and edited the art to be more on-model - even better because it shows he is finally caring more about consistency and his output than just simply dropping in the art without revision.
If you want to see how badly he can go off-model with Mary or Tiffany - go look at Seasons 1-4 of Mary sleeping in bed as the MC disrobes her or Tiffany on all fours on her bed while she is webcamming someone.
I think you are misreading Redelin's post because they, too, think Mary and Tiffany are pretty-much on model.
Finally, you're talking backgrounds and lighting and tones and fabric print - that was not part of the conversation that I was responding to, you've added on with that. Yes, backgrounds and lighting and tones and fabric print, etc have altered and that's due to the AI generation. I agree - but that's not what the conversation was about. It was about whether the faces looked more like the original or not.
- Mar 4, 2022
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- May 1, 2018
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Season 1-4 is incompatible with my Android but Season 5 works just fine
Does anybody have a link for 1-4 or should I scrap it
Does anybody have a link for 1-4 or should I scrap it
- Mar 25, 2024
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I think the main problem is that the NTR is inserted in the wrong place. Originally, as Count Morado told me, the NTR was supposed to be from the beginning of the game. And they shoved it into season five, justifying Red's departure by saying he was hit over the head with a brick and made Peter forget everything they went through.
- Jun 1, 2021
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But is the ntr dead? because they did say after the rework and the first update after rework.they would alternate between each route.but the posts only talk about the vanilla route for the upcoming update.
- Mar 25, 2024
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I don't know the fate of NTR. In fact, I don't think anyone really knows. There are no plans to update NTR in the future Season 5 update, and as for the remake - we have not yet been confirmed either the presence of NTR in the Season 1 remake or its absence. So I don't know, it seems to me that now is almost the best opportunity to put NTR back where it originally belonged by cutting it out of season 5. That is, conventionally, leave all the core content of NTR from season 5, but rewrite the plotting relative to how it was originally planned. Red appears, then he disappears before he can give Peter anything, Beatrix arrives and everything continues as in season 5, but in 1. This, in my opinion, is much more logical.
- May 4, 2019
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Wonder if the new routes are both NTR and Friendship ones. Who even remembers the latter? Hope he does because with all the reworks on the table, this would be the perfect time to add all the things he has once talked about.
Not that I have any hope for it. Probably going to get some short nonsensical scenes and a slight variations in some existing ones.
Not that I have any hope for it. Probably going to get some short nonsensical scenes and a slight variations in some existing ones.
- Nov 17, 2021
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Ok a lot of you don't like the NTR, I get it. But I don't want to have the NTR rewriten. I like the NTR starting in season 5. This is my most favorite NTR game. The NTR now has such a long build up.
I wish he'd keep writing the Season 5 NTR route, separate from the main game. They don't have to be the same app at all. They are going for not only completely different experiences but also, completely separate stories.
I wish he'd keep writing the Season 5 NTR route, separate from the main game. They don't have to be the same app at all. They are going for not only completely different experiences but also, completely separate stories.
But how does season 5 work with the ntr route? If I start playing the ntr route it doesn't start the game from the beginning, it starts like after season 4 I'm guessing. Do I have to play s 1-4 and then do the ntr route in s 5?