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This is highly debatable. Based upon the body types being created - it is apparent to many, including myself, that what has happened is that Uberpie has fed an AI resident on his computer all of his previous artwork in order to train the AI to generate images that appear to be similar to Uberpie's previous work. The three anuses, the multiple fingers, the extra knee caps, the odd arms, the bulging odd multiple fat pockets along the body parts are exactly evidence that he is not sketching and then have the AI generate the art within the lines. Also, the great divergence from the character models, themselves, from when they were handrawn/traced by Uberpie (even when compared to his inability to remain on model in his own drawing endeavors) is also evidence which contradicts the idea that Uberpie is sketching first.
If I'm not mistaken, the lack of a sketch is not at all a criterion in the problem of, for example, three anuses. Whether there is a sketch or not, if AI wants, it will draw three anuses. The only question is whether artist should correct art after generation or just forget about it. It's very difficult to create art entirely by AI means. Even if he trained the model based on his images (it's not really clear on which ones, because training on season 1-4 images won't help, because the difference in style is obvious, and season 5 is completely created by AI), it won't fix all the AI generation errors. Even if it's a perfect model, perfect prompt, perfect sketch, and perfect LORA of the character - there will be bugs one way or another. In general, my position is this - the quality of the final art depends only on the author and his willingness to refine the art.
 

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1) NTR is not forced. It's just not inserted where it was originally wanted, which is why some (including myself) aren't entirely happy with the plot and explanation for introducing it in season 5.
2) AI haters abound. Some of them write problems after the fact (faces, fingers, triple anuses, well the art with Clara (penultimate one) is pretty mediocre). Many just come and write - AI is shit, that's it.
3) The game is not abandoned. It's just that Uber is doing a second remake of seasons 1-4. There was already one, which took a very long time (relative to the usual update release time), and now it's remaking what was already remade (partially). Plus Uber mentioned a quick update that was expected 3-4 months after the current one, but Patreon's ban apparently messed up the plans and the update is now in the long box.
In general, the remake is being made for launch on Steam, from what I have managed to note - the action from high school will move to university or college (judging by the background on the art of Clara), will add content with Tiffany and Mary, icons on the map as in season 5, character biographies, a new interface (possibly).
Ah okay, thanks for replying, the comment section just seemed crazed, glad you could explain it. By the way, is there a reason they moved to AI art? Is there something wrong with their artist (whether that is cost issues or release times), or is it just placeholders so they can get more of the story out faster? Even if not, maybe someone should teach Uber about inpainting, which is extremely easy in what I use which is Automatic 1111, it’s great for fixing crazy stuff like extra limbs, toes, weird fingers, etc. I’d also say they should learn controlnet so they could just pose 3D models, but me personally I have had a really hard time trying to set that up (as well as I think it caused ram issues when using a1111).
 
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Ah okay, thanks for replying, the comment section just seemed crazed, glad you could explain it. By the way, is there a reason they moved to AI art? Is there something wrong with their artist (whether that is cost issues or release times), or is it just placeholders so they can get more of the story out faster?
The idea was that AI was supposed to speed up the release of updates. But, unfortunately, the deadlines remained the same or even increased.
 

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Even if not, maybe someone should teach Uber about inpainting, which is extremely easy in what I use which is Automatic 1111, it’s great for fixing crazy stuff like extra limbs, toes, weird fingers, etc.
Didn't notice the second part - yes, I too have dealt with Automatic1111 and I must say you are absolutely right. There's also a Photopea plugin built in there, integrated right into the SD environment, to and from which you can upload images to inpainting. There would be a desire to do so:)
 
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In general, my position is this - the quality of the final art depends only on the author and his willingness to refine the art.
I would agree.

However, where it appears we disagree is the quality of the final art which Uberpie includes with this title now that he chiefly relies upon AI to generate the artwork.

It is obvious Uberpie does little-to-nothing to refine the art after it is generated by the AI (hence the three anuses, the extra digits, multiple kneecaps, odd fat deposits and other body dysmorphisms, as well as the complete loss of model consistency when compared to previous work). This lines up with his lack of attention to detail in earlier releases with codework, text proofreading, etc which is only amplified now.

For some, they do not care at the level presented. For others, it is distasteful. I am in the latter group.
 

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I would agree.

However, where it appears we disagree is the quality of the final art which Uberpie includes with this title now that he chiefly relies upon AI to generate the artwork.

It is obvious Uberpie does little-to-nothing to refine the art after it is generated by the AI (hence the three anuses, the extra digits, multiple kneecaps, odd fat deposits and other body dysmorphisms, as well as the complete loss of model consistency when compared to previous work). This lines up with his lack of attention to detail in earlier releases with codework, text proofreading, etc which is only amplified now.

For some, they do not care at the level presented. For others, it is distasteful. I am in the latter group.
I generally agree. Bugs that have existed since quite early versions (with cameras for example), uncorrected art, about the text can not say anything at all, because I do not know English perfectly or at least at a decent level. But yes, in general, I agree. Really, I rather belong to group 1. I realize that this is bad from the point of view that if everyone is like me, Uber will generally release every art with 12 fingers, 5 anuses, different faces and so on. That is, the more people like me, the more Uber will get lazy. But alas - the latest artwork looks pretty good to me. Especially with Brinda - for some reason I have a feeling that this art was finalized by hand.
 

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Man I stopped playing this since 0.89.8b because when I played the next update it was terrible and ai ruined it and now it's only gotten worse. My favorite character Danny was great in 0.89.8b and then in the next update he was ruined, I really miss that artwork I was super happy for each update until they now use only ai. I don't necessarily hate ai art but it's so much worse than actual art when it comes to porn to be honest. Like every game I have seen that uses ai art is so much worse then ones that use actual human made art. There's so many little details missed in ai art and also the style is always the same looking which makes me find it hard to like at all.
 

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I have a question, actually two. This is kind of a spoiler, not really. So I played this game years ago and my first question is: has Ryoko gotten content since then? I remember she used to pop up here and there with no sexual content and it was kind of frustrating because I liked her design a lot. It also seemed that the story was hinting that she was Toy, which I disliked, I just wanted to check if any of that has changed or been revealed. I know back then there was also discussion that Toy was actually the girl at the very start in the smoking area.
 

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I have a question, actually two. This is kind of a spoiler, not really. So I played this game years ago and my first question is: has Ryoko gotten content since then? I remember she used to pop up here and there with no sexual content and it was kind of frustrating because I liked her design a lot. It also seemed that the story was hinting that she was Toy, which I disliked, I just wanted to check if any of that has changed or been revealed. I know back then there was also discussion that Toy was actually the girl at the very start in the smoking area.
No lewd content, just some cosplay costume stuff at the festival in the park. No, Ryoko is not Toy.
The most "on model" art released in recent months for the women, nice. Though MC looks off.
Tiffany coming in with the Biig Forehead in this Teaser like
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I always thought Tiffany had a male-pattern receding hairline... this confirms. ROFLMAO
 
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A much better preview, although it looks like they pasted their heads onto the AI generated image, its still much more in line with their actual look. I can only hope that Uber develops some sort of method to make sure the generated images actually look like the game we know. Looking forward to the added Tiffany and Mary routes.
 

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No lewd content, just some cosplay costume stuff at the festival in the park. No, Ryoko is not Toy.
The most "on model" art released in recent months for the women, nice. Though MC looks off.
I always thought Tiffany had a male-pattern receding hairline... this confirms. ROFLMAO
ah damn it, well thanks for letting me know about they toy situation, still frustrated ryoko doesn’t have any lewd content after like five years.
 
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