I like the game a lot, even if it's a clone of Lab Rat, but that's why I like it. I don't find consistent in a setting so oppressive from the dictatorial country, that there are smartphones and internet (especially to see porn online). In this sense I see it unrealistic. Anyway, congratulations for the graphic choice of the characters, the yellow folders and the typewriter type characters, that make everything perfect.
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Speaking of realism, in this sense I would see the protagonist tried to hack "state systems" (like internet or social networks, finding proxy server, codes ... etc) in order to do his personal research (work and leisure), with the possibility of increasing risk factors (as happens when buying materials or producing serum) and interacting with other present and future characters. This would make it, in my opinion, a more intriguing development of history.
I feel like only the beggining is close to lab rats, I'm really working on having a totally different route, specially a more in depth story.
About the cell phones, etc. it really depends, I live in a country with one of the biggest numbers of journalists killed, and 5 of our cities are in the top most dangerous cities in the world too, etc. a "democracy" which is in truth a dictatorship by a ruling party, and we still have porn and internet. China is also an example of a country with government sanctioned internet, but it may not be well reflected in the game, and this is a mood that I'm working on to make it feel more tangible. Hopefully new events that I'm adding will help!
The idea of hacking or using a deep-web or else is a good idea and I look forward to add some flavor.
Also this is likely to be more noticable in either 0.4 and forward, but the idea is that the city is controlled by "Institutions" that are semi-decentralized (The government is a complex bureucracy, and they avoid giving too much control to a single organ to stop power grabs. Also this division helps as a check and balance format where they fight too much among themselves instead of organizing coup's)
The idea here is that they start with 0 corruption, and that means they are 100% efficient to say. While they stay uncorrupted, the game will be extra punishing to you: Events will happen more often, and their effects harsher, you'll have then to corrupt and diminish their influence in order to keep advancing without having to worry about being caught. I hope its going to be fun, not extra hard to play but neither just "click for sex" thing
Hello patreons! Thank you all for your support, I come here with some news!
So 0.3 is going great! Right now I already have written over 20k words of content, this includes:
Corruption for Mirjana, including the basic scenes, flirt and loyalty training.
Loyalty training scene for Dimitria, Celia and Katy (it includes sex in each too!)
Introduction of Emma, Vera's roommate. It includes an initial scene where you meet her and 4 very lenghty dates. You will not use corruption to progress with her but "love". Also includes flirting with the phone.
A voyeur scene with Vera and Dimitria!
Introduction Maraget, the neuropsychiatrist, with a sexy scene too, and Erika, which is only story.
You'll be able to assign tasks to those trained, for now its going to be a super simple mechanic, just giving you money or research each day, but its going to be polished and added content in future updates.
As for now pretty much all the writing is done, now is just about doing all the renders and coding it and the update will be ready. I still need to assess how many assets will be necessary, but if everything goes smooth 0.3 will be ready around the first week next month!
Also I'm still planning how training will work, for now I decided that training will be divided in 3 different categories, but these may be changed when I go into their development.
Traits
It's a special characteristic that will open up new opportunities for your trainees. With them certain normal interactions will change (like flirting through the phone, dating in the future, or random events), and will also be a requisite for skill training.
Skills
Skills will allow you to assign new tasks to your trainees. They will often require one or more traits to be able to train them. i.e. If you want them to train them on spying they will need the voyeuristic trait.
Triggers
You can look at triggers as things that will turn on your trainees. It's very likely they will start with one of them already, like Humilliation (Dimitria), role playing (Katy), romanticism (Celia), and so on. I'm still unsure if you'll be able to change this, or add new ones. It will depend mostly on my budget and if I can afford an extra writer or an extra hand to help with renders really, but at least it will make clearer which kind of character is each of your trainees.
For now that's all, remember that the game is still a very rough WIP and training is still on the planning board, so feel free to give suggestions or feedback to keep improving the game. Thanks again for your support and see you soon!
a "democracy" which is in truth a dictatorship by a ruling party, and we still have porn and internet. China is also an example of a country with government sanctioned internet
The way our internet is build is insecure and easy to tamper with if you control the lines. Deep packet inspection and control enough ingress/egress onion nodes and you can find everyone.
The way our internet is build is insecure and easy to tamper with if you control the lines. Deep packet inspection and control enough ingress/egress onion nodes and you can find everyone.
ah thats nice to know actually! In my country, a pretend democracy they are trying to increase government control of the inet or at least criminalize behavior in social media and else. But I would say even if its insecure and easy to tamper a significantly portion of the population isnt tech savvy enough to go around it, or cares, so it more or less accomplishes some of its goals.
Really the only way to truly dont have issues with the internet is just by killing it totally but I think for my game I rather have a "heavily regulated" one that can be "de regulated" later, to add fun to it
Hey! Thanks for the feedback! its a pretty lenghty post but I'll try to adress all.
1. Yeah, you may be right that she doesn't looks that old, I would say she looks early 40s and well, she could had gotten pregnant in her early teens (14-15, not so weird in my country ) but the model for the MC it looks kinda old, thats true.
About the pubic hair, I dont have much control about it, as far as I know I cannot change it that much and, if I make pubic hair optional it means I would have to render twice a lot of scenes, which would reduce a lot of the total content of the game just for a very small tweek.
2. Yeah, I don't really have mentioned the MC father or landlord at all, you're right I should probably at least add a small mention to its fate.
3. Not sure what you mean by it, are you talking about her personality?
Here I also need to add a note that Katy and Celia aren't really the focus of the game, its a small side thing but really the story will progress mainly with Vera and other characters.
4. I kinda added some age on her initially but I didn't liked it too much to be honestm I decided to keep more the young look. Yeah, this may be an overall issue now that I think about (that everyone looks kinda younger for their position)
5. Here I am limited by the 3D daz store sadly. Originally I actually had a very long trench coat that really looked like a detective one, but since it was for older models (G3) it looked awful in Vera which is G8. Now I know how to fix those things for the most part and make G3 assets look good or better in G8, but that was after I finished v0.2, and I dont think I have the time for now to go back and redo all those old assets. I think the current outfit still looks kinda detective-like, and yeah I already had planned exhibitionist scenes for Vera which is why I wanted the long trench coat to beging with, its just the complication of me being new with 3D daz and depending on whats available in the store.
7. Well, the story with Hilde is that she is really plotting and doing this on her own, she is going rogue and working with an unknown group, so thats why she is in "charge" or overseeing whats going on, when of course it shouldnt be her responsability. This will be a little more clear in 0.3 tho when the story keeps progressing, and IIRC there are some hints about that in 0.2
About clothings, again I usually depend on whats available, and I didnt found any good looking military outfit (there are some but I find them a little bit cheesy), plus I like the more chick and modern outfit she had.
Problem with hairs of course the same than the one about clothing: Sure I can find a bun, but it may not look like her original hair because the other version I have is vastly different, or the textures, etc.
8.- there will be a lot of "faceless" NPCs situations, but I already have thought about the cast, and there could be many aditions. These aditions tho will be limited by my time and my budget: anything extra costs money, any new character is at least 100+ USD, so for now I'll focus more on the story and the characters that I have available for it.
10. We originally thought about a rebel force, but for the same as above we decided to ditch it for now. There is already many ideas about characters related to the black market, but it may not include a rebel but a corrupt businesswoman that controls both the normal commerce AND the black market to enrich herself by her abuse, on way or the other.
11. Not sure what you mean exactly by this. For now corruption will reach 100 with the next update and thats likely to be the top. There are many events that will benefit and evolve depending on the corruption level tho, i.e. the two events with family dinner have different scenes depending on how corrupt the members of your household are.
I need to add more of these events tho, but again for now since the game is not making money, I cant work on it full or even part time. Still the next update (which is already written) is going to have prob 200+ renders, Mirjana completed, next level of corr for Celia, Katy, Dimi, and some sex scenes, events and new characters.
12. About Mirjana I actually thought about her as the daughter of a local man and a foreign woman (or vice versa), which is also why she shouldnt be as attached or as nationalist as others.
13. Yeah, I havent mentioned many men, and every character in position of power is a woman, which makes it look like a system dominated by woman when it shouldnt exactly be that, I'm not sure if I should just go with just full "Women in this country are in power", something like most of the men are dead and this is mostly a coincidence, or other explanation. Not like it should be a big issue IMO tho, even if its unexplained, since bottom down we know that this is like this because we want to fuck people and not something else
3. Katy – Agreed, I honestly cant figure her out either. Like scattered random bits of minor personalities, nothing concrete.
4. Dimitria – Hell no, Shes probably best girl.
5. Vera – Massive agreed! This scene confused the fuck out of me! I was also disappointed that it was the uglier of the 2 that had the follow up scene.
8. Bribable officer – See, this is gold ideas! Oh how about a coffee shop girl too?
I think I need to revisit both Katy and Celia, I think those two are kinda over the place to be honest. I think Celia is more over the place than Katy tho. Can you tall me where you think the tone of katy is off tho? so I may revisit it?
About point 5 again looks are mostly limited by what the asset store has both will have content eventually tho. Can I ask what you found confusing tho? I may resend that to editing, that and the intro prob need some rework.
8. I would add tons of generic characters with some sex scenes here and there. Problem is still that each new character costs over 100 USD and I just dont have the resources to add so many (yet), so I need to focus on the main ones.
12. uhm well, that may be able to be done, at least for a few, I'll see if its not too much trouble but it might Maybe for new characters (like if i.e. I add "your childhood friend")
I think I need to revisit both Katy and Celia, I think those two are kinda all over the place to be honest. I think Celia is more over the place than Katy though. Can you tall me where you think the tone of Katy is off tho? so I may revisit it?
Both Celia and Katy are lite on backstory. We know Celia works but we don't know what her job is; factory worker? office lady? Make her look like a responsible adult. Introduce a social circle, not necessarily corruptible but maybe. What are her work hours? 8am to 5pm weekdays? Her work location on the map would be a good addition. With the corruption points high enough, you could visit her workplace during lunch and do something? Katy's school on the map would work the same way. Introduce a social circle for her. Young females that could be subject to corruption.
Both Celia and Katy are lite on backstory. We know Celia works but we don't know what her job is; factory worker? office lady? Make her look like a responsible adult. Introduce a social circle, not necessarily corruptible but maybe. What are her work hours? 8am to 5pm weekdays? Her work location on the map would be a good addition. With the corruption points high enough, you could visit her workplace during lunch and do something? Katy's school on the map would work the same way. Introduce a social circle for her. Young females that could be subject to corruption.
I think I will add this info in the intro and probably in the bio available in game too. She works as a secretary tho, that's already planned.
Katy is studying but you'll be able to assign her to work as a counselor in the next version too. Celia is only available at night so yeah, I would say those are her working hours in weekdays.
I'm going to add the school actually, the workplace of celia im not sure.
Let me try and expand on what I wrote before. Sorry for the wall of text.
1. Celia – My problem with Celia and Katy is that there just isn’t enough content with them at the moment, which is a problem since they are currently the two characters the MC will interact with the most. The other characters only appear at certain points of Dimitria’s corruption, which takes a while since it requires the player grinding out serums, work, and research and that Dimitria is limited to getting serum only once a day. I imagine that most players will first focus on getting faster and more certain results with Celia and Katy (like I did) and they don’t really have enough of a character to make them really stand out (at the moment). I imagine that you will flesh her out a bit in the future and this problem will go away, but I suggest you not limit yourself with these characters as just a “small side thing”. I’m sure they can be somehow worked into the main quest without too much trouble. For example: let’s say Celia is the secretary to the man who is Hilde’s boss – once Hilde is under the MC’s control, the MC would want to protect her and if the boss is threatening her, the MC could use Celia’s work access to give the boss a modified serum that will stop him from bothering Hilde. I mean, you don’t have to use this exact setup, but I think it can work as a framework for you to add in different details. I understand changing the model is a pain in the behind and expensive so I guess that will be that – ah well.
2. Katy – as I mentioned above, at the moment Celia and Katy are missing a bunch of content, which is understandable as this is v.02. As for expanding her content, let’s begin by what I remember from playing the game: A) she’s bought into the propaganda; B) she’s suspicious of the MC; C) a boy from her school wants her to send nudes. Other than the sexual events, that’s it. Again, right now, not a problem – but I do think you could and should do more stuff with her, possibly with the MC working to help her in some way. She could also work like Dimitria in that certain events only happen after she is corrupted. For example: the MC finds out that the daughter of the man who wrecked his career is in Katy’s class. He uses Katy to get an introduction and eventually corrupts the daughter. Another example: Katy’s class is going on a field trip somewhere important, and Katy manages to get the MC approved as a minder (someone who keeps the kids together) which allows the MC to do something important plot wise.
3. Dimitria – I like the model, I just don’t think she functions well as the MC’s boss as she looks like someone Katy’s age.
4. Vera – I think my problem with her introduction is that both she and Hilde appeared at the same time. If Hilde had been seen earlier, say speaking to Dimitria in another context as a proper introduction, then seeing her with Vera later would make it clear who was who. That’s a shame about not redoing it, but such is life.
5. Bribable Officer – I understand the problem, but it does feel like a shame. I can only hope that this project makes you enough money to expand the cast and you can revisit the problem at a later date.
6. Corruption Events – I think I wasn’t explaining myself fully, sorry. OK. Let’s say that the MC gives Dimitria the serum every day for a week without doing anything sexual with her. When the MC arrives on the following day, he gets the intro scene of Hilde and Vera where Dimitria gives the MC a blowjob. By the dialog in the scene, it implies that this is not the first time that Dimitria has done so before even if it never happened, you follow? Perhaps you need to add a counter (like 3 bj’s makes her more comfortable) of some kind so that the game doesn’t just link the scene with the corruption level but also how many time the MC has done a certain act with Dimitria?
Let me try and expand on what I wrote before. Sorry for the wall of text.
1. Celia – My problem with Celia and Katy is that there just isn’t enough content with them at the moment, which is a problem since they are currently the two characters the MC will interact with the most. The other characters only appear at certain points of Dimitria’s corruption, which takes a while since it requires the player grinding out serums, work, and research and that Dimitria is limited to getting serum only once a day. I imagine that most players will first focus on getting faster and more certain results with Celia and Katy (like I did) and they don’t really have enough of a character to make them really stand out (at the moment). I imagine that you will flesh her out a bit in the future and this problem will go away, but I suggest you not limit yourself with these characters as just a “small side thing”. I’m sure they can be somehow worked into the main quest without too much trouble. For example: let’s say Celia is the secretary to the man who is Hilde’s boss – once Hilde is under the MC’s control, the MC would want to protect her and if the boss is threatening her, the MC could use Celia’s work access to give the boss a modified serum that will stop him from bothering Hilde. I mean, you don’t have to use this exact setup, but I think it can work as a framework for you to add in different details. I understand changing the model is a pain in the behind and expensive so I guess that will be that – ah well.
2. Katy – as I mentioned above, at the moment Celia and Katy are missing a bunch of content, which is understandable as this is v.02. As for expanding her content, let’s begin by what I remember from playing the game: A) she’s bought into the propaganda; B) she’s suspicious of the MC; C) a boy from her school wants her to send nudes. Other than the sexual events, that’s it. Again, right now, not a problem – but I do think you could and should do more stuff with her, possibly with the MC working to help her in some way. She could also work like Dimitria in that certain events only happen after she is corrupted. For example: the MC finds out that the daughter of the man who wrecked his career is in Katy’s class. He uses Katy to get an introduction and eventually corrupts the daughter. Another example: Katy’s class is going on a field trip somewhere important, and Katy manages to get the MC approved as a minder (someone who keeps the kids together) which allows the MC to do something important plot wise.
3. Dimitria – I like the model, I just don’t think she functions well as the MC’s boss as she looks like someone Katy’s age.
4. Vera – I think my problem with her introduction is that both she and Hilde appeared at the same time. If Hilde had been seen earlier, say speaking to Dimitria in another context as a proper introduction, then seeing her with Vera later would make it clear who was who. That’s a shame about not redoing it, but such is life.
5. Bribable Officer – I understand the problem, but it does feel like a shame. I can only hope that this project makes you enough money to expand the cast and you can revisit the problem at a later date.
6. Corruption Events – I think I wasn’t explaining myself fully, sorry. OK. Let’s say that the MC gives Dimitria the serum every day for a week without doing anything sexual with her. When the MC arrives on the following day, he gets the intro scene of Hilde and Vera where Dimitria gives the MC a blowjob. By the dialog in the scene, it implies that this is not the first time that Dimitria has done so before even if it never happened, you follow? Perhaps you need to add a counter (like 3 bj’s makes her more comfortable) of some kind so that the game doesn’t just link the scene with the corruption level but also how many time the MC has done a certain act with Dimitria?
I right, I thought you meant the characters were inconsistent with their personality, not that they lacked content.
Content will be built overtime, but for now the story doesnt uses them a lot.
I'll keep adding more events that mix the different characters (i.e. voyeur scenes with Vera + other girls)
Yeah you are right that when Vera and Hilde appear, it isnt clear who is who. Maybe close ups would help to at least define that a little, thanks for the feedback tho!
I also hope the project grows enough so I can add more side characters and "life" to the game.
About 6. yeah, you are right that event comes right after it, I'll see if I can slow it down a little bit so you have more uh opportunies to play with Dimi before that.
I dont like the idea of adding 1000 variables tho but at least for this part I'll probably do.
Personally I'd value story over sex scenes in early development. Sex scenes with characters you've built an emotional attachment to are much more rewarding.
Especially the taboo stuff would probably have been better kept back for a fair number of updates with slow buildups.
No idea if that's a proper strategy for building a supporterbase for a game and get backing though
Although 0.3 isn't out, let me talk about 0.4: At this point I think we have most of the basics ready, and by 0.4 we are going to start to add more transformation to the game.
In game this will be available only after certain point in the story (pretty much after you finish the content in 0.3) and you'll be able to transform characters that have been fully trained.
I aim to have at least a basic transformation for 0.4, but I would like to add many to the game: Bimbofication, muscular, BBWs, among others could be options, but nothing is set in stone yet, here is where your feedback will come handy! Although this poll is for everyone, in the future it may be limited depending on your tier.
Down here inside the spoilers there are 4 images (ignore the last one tho, which is just an example of different body shapes that there could be) This would be the first transformation, to make them more "ideal" according to the regime in the game: Bigger hips, bigger breasts, and some other adjustments (these images are all WIP just to show roughly how they would be, nothing is final).
A is just slightly bigger but noticable, B is significantly more but still far away from silly proportions (which may come in the future tho!)
Option C would mean making it even more like a hourglass figure, making the waist significantly smaller.
Very well, you guys can vote to your heart content, the poll will close in 2 weeks, although this is just to roughly see people's opinion, and I will consider the poll in the patreon as final (right now you can vote at any tier of the patreon tho!) and if I add a little bit of transformation in 0.3 will be only as a placeholder, and mostly for testing purposes, have fun and leave comments with further ideas, suggestions, complains or any feedback! And thanks for your support!
Personally I'd value story over sex scenes in early development. Sex scenes with characters you've built an emotional attachment to are much more rewarding.
Especially the taboo stuff would probably have been better kept back for a fair number of updates with slow buildups.
No idea if that's a proper strategy for building a supporterbase for a game and get backing though
Yeah, I'll be focusing on the story a lot, I think for 0.4 I will revisit all current characters (Katy, dimi, etc) and add new interactions that can give you more in depth knowledge about them and their wereabouts, since 0.3 is pretty much done and goes more around Vera and her [roommate] Emma and adding new content to Mirjana.
