On Android your best bet is to use the version from itch or the devs website, it's not the extended version but it has the family fun built in
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dev version or itch doesn't have incest if those are patreon versions.
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Long story short, he goes on (regular) vacation after the 2nd week of this month, so if it's not out by the 14th, we won't get it for a while.
As for what's taking so long, there was a setback involving Patreon a few months ago that put a damper on things, he said the timing is going to be close.
As for what's taking so long, there was a setback involving Patreon a few months ago that put a damper on things, he said the timing is going to be close.
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I find myself wondering why people even use Patreon for this kind of content now. It's far too restrictive, has too much oversight, and can literally stall a project if someone tries to report you (even just maliciously).
Doesn't seem like there's any good reason to use Patreon other than it being a known platform. But Subscribestar is as well, and doesn't have nearly the limitations that Patreon does.
Walter Victor
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What happened is that developers started out on Patreon before SubscribeStar even existed. It also took a while before SubscribeStar became a realistic alternative. Once a subscriber base was built up on Patreon, it was difficult to just switch over to another platform.
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Money and PayPal. Patreon makes so much more money for dev's than SS ever will.
SS is credit card only, and as it's still newish compared to most, a lot still just don't trust it.
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Makes sense, but then if you're interested (and invested) in a project monthly, you'd probably follow to another payment platform to continue. At least I would, especially one that doesn't limit authors. But then Sisterly Lust was one of my all-time favorite AVNs, so I might be a tad biased.
Wasn't aware, good info to have. I figured they were similar, knowing Paypal's raised their cut over the years on money transfers. Makes it a more difficult call, though as a donor I'd probably be willing to toss another 10-20% at an author if it meant less issues, and no limitations on content or presentation. Again, YMMV.
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Another thing to consider is that in every business I'm aware of if you change your storefront you are basically guaranteed to lose a percentage of your customer base. AVN devs probably rarely have the margins to eat that loss of income, even if things do return to normal or higher after a few months at the new place.Makes sense, but then if you're interested (and invested) in a project monthly, you'd probably follow to another payment platform to continue. At least I would, especially one that doesn't limit authors. But then Sisterly Lust was one of my all-time favorite AVNs, so I might be a tad biased.
Wasn't aware, good info to have. I figured they were similar, knowing Paypal's raised their cut over the years on money transfers. Makes it a more difficult call, though as a donor I'd probably be willing to toss another 10-20% at an author if it meant less issues, and no limitations on content or presentation. Again, YMMV.
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The point is that (here in Europe, for example) people are far less likely to own a credit card than in the US. (
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)Most of the people playing these games are from a relatively young demographic and most of us have PayPal, Cashapp, Bitcoin or whatever. Having a CC and rarely using it can end up costing you more money than it's worth (again, not if you know how to it, but a lot of people have never touched a CC before) - we usally pay our shit through Bancontant, iDeal or some other proprietary service. I think that was just explained to you and you understood, but I wanted to make an effort to really double down on this point. Prepaid CC cards are frowned upon here in the EU and some stores wouldn't even let me pay with it. It's quite a cultural thing here, still.
I'll repeat what I said in the discord - I'm hoping Perv releases a good update rather than a fast update. Now of course being subscribed is taking money out of your account, so by design patrons have an incentive to ask for updates (and might even feel entitled to them). It's in everybody best interest to release a good game, even if it costs more money. You can make back the money. You can't make back the time you spend playing a shitty update, plus the fact it can ruin the time spent on a game overall.
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That seems weird to me... my debit card IS a credit card as well and I didn't have to request that functionality.
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Not every credit card works either, your card could work now, but next week it won't.Wasn't aware, good info to have. I figured they were similar, knowing Paypal's raised their cut over the years on money transfers. Makes it a more difficult call, though as a donor I'd probably be willing to toss another 10-20% at an author if it meant less issues, and no limitations on content or presentation. Again, YMMV.
It's a fishy company.
Most dev's who get their Patreon wiped, guess what has happened to most? Most get that orange tag added and give up. You got dev's making $1-$5k a month, then going to SS making not even $1k.
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I can imagine. Allow me to detail it and make it even weirder - EU debit cards have had the functionality of being able to going into debt since the 80's, they just never considered it as opt-in. So you have to request the feature manually and it still wouldn't let you pay like an AmEx, VISA or Mastercard card would. Probably some kind of consumer protection feature. The thing is - debit cards don't charge fees and I think most people in the EU like it that way or they set it up that way to make it attractive to use the system?
Either way, with the coming of new digital currencies and the whole world going into debt I'm sure credit cards will be the only thing most people will have in a few years.
Nadira
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I just checked. My card is both a Mastercard (even has their logo on it) and a debit card from my bank and I surely never requested the credit card feature.
I barely use the credit card feature though. I support only one dev over a SS. There I use it.
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That is not true. Every bank charges fees about mostly everything. Debit card isn't the exception and store owners are the one that need to pay them.
Also they are some CC that doesn't have a yearly fee - still have all the others...
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Really? That's interesting. My original experiences date back from a decade ago, so it could definitely mean things have changed since then. Glad it worked out that way now! I've seen the Mastercard logo on my new bank card, so I figured it would have been added since. I checked my bank application and as of today, I still don't have credit card functionality on my debit card. I do own a credit card from a different company though, so I never really sought out the functionality myself.
(Check the posts below, cards with the Maestro or VISA logo work a bit different than I originally thought)
You are absolutely right. Debit cards do charge fees, just not at every payment transaction for the account holder. You're absolutely correct someone has to pay for the money transfer and in this case, the store owner / entrepreneur does it (aside from a one-time account fee to the account holder, I think). And like you pointed out, there are definitely creditcards that don't have the yearly fee nor the minimum spending budget.
Credit cards aren't nearly as devious as they were 20 years ago and most people can operate them quite successfully while staying out of (too much) debt. It helps you build a credit score, which is a bonus.
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