so do I but with each new update there more scenes like with Orc/Demon Knight has 4 more new ones with v0.3.26.3
update which I need know how to get them please.
Java Tales of Androgyny [v0.3.49.2] [Majalis]
update which I need know how to get them please.
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I Came back into a flame war. Beautiful.
face it guys this game is gonna be developed as long as possible the game at this point is mostly complete. maj will keep milking this game forever nothing you can do about it. my suggestion is to stop backing them.
i supported them for almost 2 years spent more money on this game then most other games you arent changing anything or doing anything impactfull. if maj could they would just ban you like they did me.
couldve put the game up on steam for a 1 time purchase but thats too much for them gotta get that 10k+ a month on patreon.
face it guys this game is gonna be developed as long as possible the game at this point is mostly complete. maj will keep milking this game forever nothing you can do about it. my suggestion is to stop backing them.
i supported them for almost 2 years spent more money on this game then most other games you arent changing anything or doing anything impactfull. if maj could they would just ban you like they did me.
couldve put the game up on steam for a 1 time purchase but thats too much for them gotta get that 10k+ a month on patreon.
Hm, I don't think that's how Patreon model works. Starting ToA 2 would be more beneficial than keeping the old ond. They would lose a few people, but gain more hyped up supporters. As I see it now, Majalis just want to make a good game, but the interest to the project development is low and does not motivate them. If a bunch of people said something like “hey, we want this thing now”, they would start working on it instead of generic update. I mean, the game gets soundtrack, it got Upgrades updates, it generally is moving in right direction. It's just nobody besides Patrons with their monthly polls is anyhow aiming their efforts to what we could want.
They're not all knowing and all understanding, how would they know what they should actually do with the game if nobody could even report some simple bugs in dedicated thread in years?
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Love your work man. Are there any plans to recreate a scene involving chastity cage in the future?
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Interesting game. While I do like games with MC on the receiving end of a feminine characters with a cock, I would personally prefer a male MC and less bestiality, but original choices here.. Tried a submissive build that just seduced the enemy to top the MC. Once the opponent gets sexually I typically stopped taking damage, and then I usually "won" the encounters by them getting satisfied, but that didn't work with everyone. Trying to win by winning the fight seems wrong when I save myself from a buttfucking ;D
A bit hard to decide what the goals are here, but I guess I in some way need to get strong enough to take down boss at the end of the maps, so needs another build..
Trying to dig up a bit of info on the game, I found that you could get achievements to give you bonuses for later playthroughs, which seems force replaying bits to become powerful. Do I get these achievements independent of playing ironmode mode or not? If I get better reward for achievement in ironman mode, how do I know what achievements I've done there and not?
Lots of various stuff here, but not sure I'm willing to learn so much details to view a few static images. Text is well written, and the world is interesting, but for me it would help if:
- There was a few more images changing to go along with the sex related parts of the story.
- If you could backtrack a bit in case you accidentally skipped text a bit too far.
- For ironman mode, it would be useful if you could save so you could shut down game and continue later.
A bit hard to decide what the goals are here, but I guess I in some way need to get strong enough to take down boss at the end of the maps, so needs another build..
Trying to dig up a bit of info on the game, I found that you could get achievements to give you bonuses for later playthroughs, which seems force replaying bits to become powerful. Do I get these achievements independent of playing ironmode mode or not? If I get better reward for achievement in ironman mode, how do I know what achievements I've done there and not?
Lots of various stuff here, but not sure I'm willing to learn so much details to view a few static images. Text is well written, and the world is interesting, but for me it would help if:
- There was a few more images changing to go along with the sex related parts of the story.
- If you could backtrack a bit in case you accidentally skipped text a bit too far.
- For ironman mode, it would be useful if you could save so you could shut down game and continue later.
You get achievements outside of Ironman, and they count for half a bonus starting point - each achievement gained on Ironman is worth a full bonus point. If you've unlocked an achievement on normal mode, it'll say so, and if it's on Ironman, it'll have a "+" next to it.
For ironman you can just close the game and hit Continue later. Ironman locks you to the autosave, you don't have to do it all in one sitting.
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I love it. I hate the yes mans supporting this game. We need to be critical. I love this game and would hate to see it go like breeding season .
I did not start the fire. But i will gladly aid its spread.
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6 years of development with no clear and defined plan does not sound like making a good game but someone just making what comes up to their mind.
The devs are actively making whatever their fan base decides. Ik being a angel supporter i pushed for gobo content.
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Asked and answered dozens (hundreds?) of times in this thread. Here's one response:
PS: I used the search thread option for the term female by Majalis(TOA). It was on the first page of results.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, to you, even, but this is false. We no longer have a patron reward for suggestions, only one person ever used it, and the pool of patron-voted content is provided by us. And we plan to work on this game for quite some time after both modes are fully playable start to finish (I've said this multiple times on this forum). Every new year someone's going to say "X years in development and it's still not finished!", even after that point, as if we're CD Projeckt Red or Valve or whatever, as if we have some kind of hard deadline that must be met for shareholders (we do not!). I've said it before and I'll say it again: as long as people want us to keep working on ToA and we don't get tired of doing so, we will.
These criticisms are always incoherent, asking for things that nobody actually wants. Do you want us to listen to our fanbase? To ignore them? To stop working on the game? Seriously, the criticism here is that we listen to patrons when they say they like something. That's not a good-faith criticism. I wish there was a way that I could demonstrate when people just have an axe to grind, and there's nothing we could do to please them.
There are always some people, particularly non-patrons, policing what content we add to the game. Every time we add anything, someone on this forum complains that it's not what they wanted, because nobody is interested in everything we add. If you don't like kissing art, don't worry, there'll be something else next week, and, also, there'll be more kissing art, because we didn't add it for you.
I wish balls of devs did something with newbies asking literally the same questions all over again each year because the game doesn't give them the real directions to what they should do with this whirlpool of new encounters choices every months.
I understand a tiny team can't make such a game all by themselves in a span of even 4-6 years, but honestly I have to say it's in some cases becoming even harder to play it. It feels like drowning in the amount of “content” that is generic new sex-scene stuff without any solid ground that could help you snap out and grasp what the hell is happening.
I mean:
I understand a tiny team can't make such a game all by themselves in a span of even 4-6 years, but honestly I have to say it's in some cases becoming even harder to play it. It feels like drowning in the amount of “content” that is generic new sex-scene stuff without any solid ground that could help you snap out and grasp what the hell is happening.
I mean:
- four locations, — but all of the shops are on the first map. Both existing towns on the first map. And all the companions are here. For years now.
- When you move further, you can get in ambiguous quests. You have to find characters, than backtrack to the places that are VERY VAGUELY hinted. There's no way to tell for sure who you have to encounter. When you do, you get a short often strange/boring scene (with Trudy and Kylira, Alma had a bit more fun quest scenes).
- Also you get in fights, which are very similar. Your strategy is basically the same, you just manage your health and use same skills. Learning something complicated doesn't really help you. You just need adequate stats and gear, then do all the same things. And again, it was like that for years with small additions like armor weight and upgrades, that again affect the battle as whole, instead of giving you variety in tenths of different fights.
- After the aforementioned you only experience encounters. Encounters, encounters, checks in same stuff, the same choice in letting them lay you or fighting and losing/winning. Overall they're written good. But there's so many of them with the same fabula that it can make you sick. The only proper analogy I could find is the butter you use to make your food tastier, and of course it does, but when you only add butter everywhere you feel sick of how fat it was (by the way, EVERY character has the same fat butt and tiny waist).
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I appreciate Majalis response. I agree with them even, given that I'm one of those who want ToA content to keep coming, and that it makes complete sense to add the content that your Patreons want to see.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with people stating they'd like some other expansion instead of the one we got, or with wanting a somehow defined plan for the coming updates every once in a while. As long as the cricicism is voiced with respect, that is. So yeah, I think there's room for criticism as long as it's done right.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with people stating they'd like some other expansion instead of the one we got, or with wanting a somehow defined plan for the coming updates every once in a while. As long as the cricicism is voiced with respect, that is. So yeah, I think there's room for criticism as long as it's done right.
I'm usually not in the business of telling people how to better get what they want out of me, but posting "I love Cait!" or "I want the goblin to sit on my face" or "I like playing as a pure mage and finding ways to debilitate specific opponents" has a non-zero chance of influencing how we work on the game. Waiting for an update, seeing that it's the Minotauress and not Cait, and then saying "more minotauress content? Devs are so lazy/patrons have such shit taste" has zero chance of doing that and just gets you put on ignore. I know you said "with respect", but mostly when people are doing this respect isn't even on their list of priorities.
I think we should take our conversation to DMs because you clearly care about ToA and put a lot of time into trying to help it, but I'll address some of this here:
To some degree, we have plans to fix this stuff when it comes to unevenness - more towns spread throughout the game, more quests, etc. Unevenness in the writing are pretty much the result of the content mill - I timebox the creation of a quest for a given week, maybe the writing in it on another, and once I run out of time, it goes in whether it's really as edited as I'd like it to be. But I would just pull it and finish it the following week if I didn't have to worry about people complaining about the updates on here! Instead, I just plan to go back over and improve the writing (the pacing and the quality) when I have a chance to - now that I have an encounter viewer/editor I can easily trace the flow of encounters and improve them with an understanding of how they fit together without creating continuity errors or pacing issues.
The pieces for making combat more varied and interesting are all there, but improving the combat system is on pause until I work with my engineer to improve the code for it so that it's easier to work on and less volatile. We'll also probably build out a little combat simulator so that I can create both manual and automated tests to keep combat outcomes happening as expected even as I tweak things. The main issue with improving the combat system is that, in making it so that you "use more varied strategies", I am inherently making it more difficult, since most players won't use more varied strategies on different enemies instead of a one-size-fits-all approach if it's possible to do so. And making the combat more difficult is going to make it, well, more difficult for people to get into the game, and people will argue that a porn game doesn't need difficult combat (which is a legitimate concern). It will happen, eventually, but I do want for the game to offer as much help as possible or ways to opt out for people who either will have a hard time dealing with difficult combat or simply don't want to.
To the last bullet point: that's an artifact of not having an editor tool until now. Making more interesting ways for an encounter to flow was just difficult to do through pure code, so I prioritized getting the scenes in at all. While there does need to be some rewrites to fit the existing scenes into an encounter flow that's more varied, the bulk of the work was in getting those large-scale scenes written - so again, the pieces are there. On the other hand, keeping them with a similar formula does allow new players to have a basic idea of how most encounters are structured - familiarity can be helpful.
Also, not every character has the same fat butt and tiny waist at all; we just added the sperm bank nurse, for instance, and there's also the Mermaid, the Brigand, the Ogre, the Innkeep, Lupa and the Werewolf, the Fire Elemental, and the Catgirl. Admittedly, a lot of the characters do have a cinched waist and similarly flared hips, but I'm fine with that for ToA. A lot of games have characters with all the same athletic build or the same busty build, so having large waists or butts is a differentiator in the artstyle. We do want to make sure it doesn't get samey, and try to do something different with new characters, but I think part of the reason so many people like ToA but don't want to play it is because they like the fat butts and not the big dicks, or gay stuff, or whatever. I'm definitely not backing down from making plump, chubby, or fat characters, either, so people can give up on that, too.
People have been saying we don't have what it takes since we first dropped ToA's initial build. I'll be the first to agree that ToA has a lot of untapped potential, because we put it there to begin with intentionally. And we have our prioritization. If I could take six months to just work on systems and UI/UX and all the unsexy little improvements, I would, but I don't have that luxury - it has to happen in parallel with content creation. And since we have a team now, that means waiting for the right time to do things. Our engineer started at the end of last year, and they got to work on the stuff I was never going to have time to - localization/translation support and an encounter viewer/editor tool, but now that those are done and they're familiar with the codebase, they're going to be helping with the core stuff. Similarly, our animator started earlier this year, and just became full-time recently, so Alis is having more time to work on the art, including things like the backgrounds, which could definitely use more variance.
tl;dr there's a lot of work to do to make ToA even better, but the game is where we expected it to be right now, and we have plans to get it where we want it. Unless I get hit by a bus or lose my to-do list, I think it'll be just fine.
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I remember you mentioned in this thread that the game is to conclude somewhere in 2023, did the dynamic change?