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Ricthequick

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You pointed quite an interesting thing that makes many people angry with NTR and NTR community.
They are aggressive as wasps. And due to their wasping they create an impression for devs as if majority or a large portion of people want NTR.
As you said people who don't like NTR usually do not (not always) enter NTR media content and bitch about it being NTR or not being other fetish content whilst they tend to bitch about NTR not being present.

I do appretiate when NTR warning exists and especially love it when it is avoidable (then i might play it just to see NTR plot to be ruined or ghosted)
To be fair, the vast majority of rants I see in threads on here are from "vanilla" folks, who are against NTR, but in general aggainst anything that deviates from: chad MC who fucks everything that moves and is allowed to do to NPCs whatever he pleases (rape, humilitaion, blackmail, etc...)

Mind you I don't really give an F about NTR, sometimes it bothers me, sometimes it doesn't, it depends on the context of a specific AVN and how it's implemented (but this applies to most fetishes except the ones I REALLY don't like), but if I don't like it, sure sometimes I post about it, but then move on, what's the point for me to keep banging on the same drum, in a thread about an AVN I don't like?

Is that some form of proselytism? Some sort of counter-reprogramming wave to contrast some mythical agenda to turn us all into cucks?

Sorry I'll stop here, but this is the 4th thread in a row when I go in looking for info and all I read is anti-NTR whining in games that, at least officially (tags), don't have any.
 

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It's a buggy mess right now. Please rectify the UI issues. The almost constant oversised notifications are annoying. Can't seem to fullscreen it except in a window. The game randomly freezes during dialogue. The dialogue box needs customisation options to make it less intrusive. Despite the rename options the dialogue doesn't reflect your choices most of the time. That being said. Like the art style and the couple of animations, I've got to see, seem well done.
 
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To be fair, the vast majority of rants I see in threads on here are from "vanilla" folks, who are against NTR, but in general aggainst anything that deviates from: chad MC who fucks everything that moves and is allowed to do to NPCs whatever he pleases (rape, humilitaion, blackmail, etc...)
It's both.

The problem is, as humans, we're far more apt to notice (and be annoyed by) things we disagree with than we are the things we agree with or don't care about.

If you pay attention, you'll constantly notice NTR fans wandering into games that don't have it (or which would be utterly ruined by having it), and will push to have it added, or otherwise complain that they're not interested in the game without it. They can absolutely be as irritating in their own way as the anti-NTR people who will go into threads for blatantly NTR-themed games and rant about how NTR is terrible. You'll also notice them popping into game threads that are marked for netorare complaining that the game doesn't have NTR and the tag should be removed, because the game doesn't meet their personal definition of what NTR should be.

The other problem is, it's reciprocal. NTR supporters will trigger the NTR haters, which in turn will trigger the NTR-hater haters, and a simple question of whether or not a game has NTR will devolve into a shit-flinging argument over the technical definition of NTR and whether or not something counts as NTR, with people insulting anyone who disagrees with their take on things, and then ultimately the mods have to wade in and delete like 80 comments.

And something like 90% of the problem would probably be solved if the site had a better tagging system, or if games just put "NTR is Unavoidable" or "This game will never have NTR" in the opening post, and then stuck to that. Some of the most fiery arguments and complaints about NTR tend to come in games that start out with no NTR or hint that there's ever going to be any, and then it gets dropped into like the 6th update with no real warning and no way to avoid it. Or where a dev outright says early on that they'll never add NTR, and then they add it later like they're springing their trap card.


Sorry I'll stop here, but this is the 4th thread in a row when I go in looking for info and all I read is anti-NTR whining in games that, at least officially (tags), don't have any.
This is arguably why the site needs a better tagging system. Or, at least, more nuanced tags to apply to more controversial content (which NTR is arguably the #1 candidate for).

Basically, split the tag into one tag that can be used by NTR fans to deliberately search for NTR games they want to play, and have another tag for warning people who don't want to see potential love interests (or other characters in general) fucking other people beyond the MC, so they can block or filter out those games. And then everyone needs to be really responsible about using those tags correctly and maintaining them.

Ambiguity is the main reason why 90% of these arguments start. If the ambiguity was dramatically reduced, you'd still have idiots (on both sides) whining, but for the most part the majority of posters would probably settle down.
 
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eusimaeu

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When abby is in the shower the game gets stuck in a scene loop of "abbyshowerpeak" where she says that she's startled, goes through the text and then it repeats.
 

gabblegobble

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Dont bother playing new update its broken
Played for 20 minutes unlocked a bunch of stuff then it bugged out wiped the gallery
Just wait for someone to upload a save
 

Ricthequick

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It's both.

The problem is, as humans, we're far more apt to notice (and be annoyed by) things we disagree with than we are the things we agree with or don't care about.

If you pay attention, you'll constantly notice NTR fans wandering into games that don't have it (or which would be utterly ruined by having it), and will push to have it added, or otherwise complain that they're not interested in the game without it. They can absolutely be as irritating in their own way as the anti-NTR people who will go into threads for blatantly NTR-themed games and rant about how NTR is terrible. You'll also notice them popping into game threads that are marked for netorare complaining that the game doesn't have NTR and the tag should be removed, because the game doesn't meet their personal definition of what NTR should be.

The other problem is, it's reciprocal. NTR supporters will trigger the NTR haters, which in turn will trigger the NTR-hater haters, and a simple question of whether or not a game has NTR will devolve into a shit-flinging argument over the technical definition of NTR and whether or not something counts as NTR, with people insulting anyone who disagrees with their take on things, and then ultimately the mods have to wade in and delete like 80 comments.

And something like 90% of the problem would probably be solved if the site had a better tagging system, or if games just put "NTR is Unavoidable" or "This game will never have NTR" in the opening post, and then stuck to that. Some of the most fiery arguments and complaints about NTR tend to come in games that start out with no NTR or hint that there's ever going to be any, and then it gets dropped into like the 6th update with no real warning and no way to avoid it. Or where a dev outright says early on that they'll never add NTR, and then they add it later like they're springing their trap card.



This is arguably why the site needs a better tagging system. Or, at least, more nuanced tags to apply to more controversial content (which NTR is arguably the #1 candidate for).

Basically, split the tag into one tag that can be used by NTR fans to deliberately search for NTR games they want to play, and have another tag for warning people who don't want to see potential love interests (or other characters in general) fucking other people beyond the MC, so they can block or filter out those games. And then everyone needs to be really responsible about using those tags correctly and maintaining them.

Ambiguity is the main reason why 90% of these arguments start. If the ambiguity was dramatically reduced, you'd still have idiots (on both sides) whining, but for the most part the majority of posters would probably settle down.
I'll just answer this once, because as I mentioned I don't like to make a huge fuss about something I can easily avoid by reading some messages and moving on.
  1. No is not just about NTR lovers/haters
  2. yes tags are not perfect, but are an indication
  3. folks should still pay more attention at how they assign tags (and no is not just authors doing it, enough folks request for it to be added and it most likely will be slapped onto it )
  4. self-pretantious pricks are on every side of any debate about kinks
  5. Atm I have roughly 100 AVNs installed, but they are probably 20-25% of the ones I've tried? The ones complaining about an existing kink are more in numbers, and more vocal, than the ones who want a kink added.
The real issue thou is another one, some of those folks (#4) have no idea what "vanilla" means, and as such also have no idea as to how a place like this works.

Having sex with your mom (incest) is not vanilla, having sex with 6 different girls (Harem) isn't either, is not even "vanillier" than NTR, they are all kinks (sexual preferences if you will).

Vanilla is having normal sex (e.g. missionary) just with your partner away from prying eyes, but here's the kicker, folks don't come to sites like this looking for that, just the act of looking at it is a kink if you will, because is not having regular sex with your partner, but rather having it with yourself while watching/reading about someone else doing something (classic porn is the same btw).

Whether one admits it or not, we are all here to satisfy a kink or another (or multiple), and a general agreement should be... we do NOT kink shame others, we see something we don't like... we move away, this allows everyone to enjoy their own prefereed kink.

Sadly if someone's a self-pretentious prick they lack the social skills to realize it, they think "I am the golden standard, so everyone else should either agree or get converted" (AKA "I, I, I, me, me, me, me).

It's really really sad, but whatever, I've written my "piece" and now can move on.

Cheers mate
 
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smasquerade

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Unplayably buggy. Saving doesn't keep affection, gym breaks interaction, some scenes just freeze without UI.
 

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I think the main bug is the interface freezing. You click on the dialogs and for some inexplicable reason the clicks stop working. Even load/save buttons. This happens at the end of EVERY day.
Wait for fixes.
 
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