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VN Ren'Py Tales Of Sanctaris Arcane [v0.1.2] [Gladerine]

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DevinHesi

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Hello,

I’d like to take this opportunity to address two things:

First:
I’ve taken another day to "improve" some renders.

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I know the priority was the story, but when I look at certain renders, they feel off, and I feel the need to change them.
However, I promise I’ll focus more on the dialogue from now on.

I’m also working on the part where you can avoid Aria, adding more options to adjust some dialogues and certain actions related to that. (These are small changes, so I’m not promising a major twist in the story, at least for now.)

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Second:
My last post was worded in a way that caused some misunderstandings with certain people who were vocal about being against lesbian relationships within their harems.

To clarify:
Based on the feedback, I’ve adjusted the game to offer two distinct routes:

  • Main Harem Route: The girls are entirely devoted to the MC, and no lesbian relationships occur.
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Polyamory Route: The girls within the MC’s harem can engage in romantic relationships with each other, but only with the MC’s approval.

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Important Note:

  • No relationships with anyone outside the harem.
  • No other male characters involved.
Conveying ideas like this can be challenging when I can’t communicate in my native language.

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That’s all I wanted to share—these two points felt important to address.

Have a nice day!

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Beast Within

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First off all, I would like to say that I wasnt planning on posting anything since I had this game on ignore, but some people contacted me about some changes and it made me curious to see what those changes are about.

so after reading the newest post from the dev, if I may, I have a few questions/observations.

I will put them all in a spoiler for anyone who wants to read. if not, no harm done.


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best of health.
 

Gladerine

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First off all, I would like to say that I wasnt planning on posting anything since I had this game on ignore, but some people contacted me about some changes and it made me curious to see what those changes are about.

so after reading the newest post from the dev, if I may, I have a few questions/observations.

I will put them all in a spoiler for anyone who wants to read. if not, no harm done.


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best of health.
Hi,
I'll go step by step—this will be a long comment...

### Lesbian Relationships:
The two previous lesbian relationships remain in the "poly" route.
In the Harem route, however, they will maintain a strong friendship (Bella is still the first person Aria met after escaping the sanctuary, so that bond of friendship stays).
**Note:** Any hints of attraction or romantic interest between LIs will be exclusive to the poly route, including specific dialogues and images that might suggest something.

In the Harem route, there will be no such interaction or interest.
Aria's previous relationship (with a man) has been removed from the story.
After reading the feedback, I realized that it made her seem "desperate for attention" which wasn’t the intention. She was meant to be spoiled and immature.
And to portray her that way, it wasn’t necessary to have a previous relationship with another character.

(If something is unclear or open to misunderstanding, please let me know.)

---

### Lesbian Interactions Between LI's:
This romantic tension or lesbian tendencies will be present mainly through dialogues (which will not exist in the Harem route).

#### Regarding the scenes:
**In the Harem route**, for example:
- Serena is with Cassandra, and they’re ready for you.
- You get a message: it's a picture of them two waiting for you.
- MC is at a party with the gang.

**Serena:** "Are you coming?"
- If you choose to go: **threesome**.
- If you prefer to stay with the gang:

**Serena:** "Cassandra, we’ve been stood up. Put your clothes back on, let’s go..."

---

**If "poly":**
- Serena is waiting for you with Cass.
- If you want to go: **threesome**.
- If not:

**"No, but have fun."** (They’re in a relationship; they don’t need permission.) **Lesbian scene**

However, if you decline and, for example, have a bad relationship with Cass but still keep her path open, MC will have the option to intervene:

**"I won’t go, but things with her aren’t great right now. I’d prefer nothing happens."** (just an example)

Serena, unaware of your situation with Cass, will cancel everything.

If the path with one of them is closed, the situation won’t even be proposed, as it would be considered cheating—and that’s not the point.

---

### Summary:


- There is no prior relationship with other men in either path.
- In the Poly route, there is a prior relationship between those LIs.
- All lesbian content is exclusive to the Poly route.

**Harem:**
- "There’s no affection between us, but we wanna fuck."
- "Do you wanna fuck?"
- "No, I don’t."
- "Then no one’s fuck"

**Poly:**
- "There’s affection between us, and we show it."
- "Now... We wanna fuck. Do you wanna fuck?"
- "No, I’m busy."
- **Serena:** "Is she still in this relationship? Are you okay with her?"
- "Yes."
- "Then she and I will proceed."
---
- **Serena:** "Do you have an issue with her? Are things okay?"
- "No, I actually plan to distance myself from her."
- "Oh... then it’s canceled, because above all, I am faithful to you."

---
If a path is closing, the proposal won’t even be made since she wouldn’t be part of the relationship, and no affection would be shown towards her.

Regarding Dropping the Harem Route:
I could drop it, but I don’t want to anymore.
This is my first project, and I need to learn as much as possible from it to avoid making the same mistakes in the future.
I need to know what works, what doesn’t, what people like, and what they dislike.
To do that, I have to make mistakes and gain experience.

I’ll try to find a way to adapt along the way, but that’s all—adapt.
That doesn’t mean I’ll give in every time someone mentions they don’t like X or Y, because I can’t please everyone—it's impossible.
However, I’m flexible enough to understand that:

  1. I’m new to this niche, and the feedback is coming directly from consumers, so part of this project is paying attention to their comments.
  2. I’m inexperienced, so I’ll probably make plenty of mistakes and need to adapt based on feedback.
I have the understanding and reasoning to know when I’m wrong, and I will keep paying attention to all comments—not to please everyone, but to adapt where necessary.
 

MixQQ

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First off all, I would like to say that I wasnt planning on posting anything since I had this game on ignore, but some people contacted me about some changes and it made me curious to see what those changes are about.

so after reading the newest post from the dev, if I may, I have a few questions/observations.

I will put them all in a spoiler for anyone who wants to read. if not, no harm done.


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best of health.
it's always the same - magically turning every girl into BI and later you will get lesbian fuckfest without mc. Don't forget about pseudo 3some scenes focused on girl-girl action instead on straight. That's how poly always works in Harem games - MC at some point become walking dildo and nothing more.
 
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Beast Within

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it's always the same - magically turning every girl into BI and later you will get lesbian fuckfest without mc. Don't forget about pseudo 3some scenes focused on girl-girl action instead on straight. That's how poly always works in Harem games - MC at some point become walking dildo and nothing more.
sadly this is true. concearning this particular game though, the dev specifically mentioned two paths, completely different to eachother as far as the girls sexuality goes. now, I still have a couple of questions, that I privately bothered the dev with.
bottom line is, if this game goes along the lines of grandma's house, between humanity and my dorm, concearning that fetish, then who ever doesnt want gay content in their playthrough, they can keep it out. my only worry is how feasible that is and how much content will remain for the straight path.
 
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MixQQ

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sadly this is true. concearning this particular game though, the dev specifically mentioned two paths, completely different to eachother as far as the girls sexuality goes. now, I still have a couple of questions, that I privately bothered the dev with.
bottom line is, if this game goes along the lines of grandma's house, between humanity and my dorm, concearning that fetish, then who ever doesnt want gay content in their playthrough, they can keep it out. my only worry is how feasible that is and how much content will remain for the straight path.
straight content stay the same or less. I don't expect any exclusive scenes/more content. Many devs especially when creating 3some scenes and want to avoid lesbianism do simple thing - remove all girl-girl interactions or they use specific camera angle and you can't see them doing that. In the end straight version of the same scene is much shorter than original one (because dev cut les interactions)

When it comes to conversations between characters - probably only slightly changes, you won't see lesbian tendencies. Girls won't lust after each other, etc.
 
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Syphalion

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I just finished the latest version, and I have to say that I found it quite difficult to immerse myself in it, as we are not even given a quick summary of the universe and its overall history, I mean, we supposedly start in a military school, quite lax given the lack of dedicated uniforms and the nonchalance of the students to learn things that could perhaps save their lives in the future.

I know that a revision of the MC and Aria is planned and fortunately because I have never wanted to send a LI as strong as Aria to fuckoff, and the MC is such a Simp that it becomes unbearable, he looks like a secondary character, he has no trait that sets him apart especially, even his captain is more stylish than him.

Not to mention that he needs glasses while he fights hand to hand and moves a lot, good luck for the guards on the head in the middle of a fight, I still prefer to have Nathaniel, he would make a much better MC and no need for glasses since he can see even without these eyes !

Seriously the MC always does everything a girl tells him to do and does not even respect him to the point that even his stupid childhood friend kills him and prefers not to tell anyone so as not to be fired, it's okay, he has no power he is not important...

I don't know if resurrecting people is a common thing, but since we haven't been told anything, I assume that dying isn't great and that they should be stressed, well no, they talk calmly around his corpse without pressure, good friends clearly.

And instead of saying "Yes my queen" to all the girls, seriously forcing the player to be dominated never works very well especially for a harem, it's MC that they should call Daddy instead !

But the biggest problem is that we don't know anything about the rank or what the ark and the echo are, we don't really know why they are trained to fight, humans? Monsters?

There is a cruel lack of detail that makes the compression of certain scenes very complicated, for example the moment where MC abandons his katana to fight towards the second floor, and we see him appearing in ruins for no reason while a simple scene with a black background and a text that would say "MC opens the door to the second floor quickly, but instead of finding the building he knows he only finds a portal that sucks him in by surprise." and there you have an easy transition to make and understand.

And I could find many other examples like that, the MC doesn't even know that there are other intelligent races than humans on his planet like the catfish men, seriously, isn't that the kind of thing you should learn in elementary school ?!


There you go, I didn't take the time to write all this to be mean, it's just that I think the universe has potential, but if you want to exploit it to its full potential, you should pay more attention to detail otherwise you will quickly lose the players in your story.
 

DevinHesi

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Hi.
I’m back with a quick update on the situation.

Today was my day off from work, so I took the time to think about a lot of things and kept practicing how to improve my renders.

Regarding the first point:
I’ve been thinking that some of the decisions I’ve made may not have been the best for the project (which I really want to carry out in the best way possible).

I’m still debating with myself about "what’s best for this project?" and "what should I do to stop making the situation worse?".

If you’re still interested in this project and want to comment on the previous post (regarding the lesbian content and all that. [I’m seriously considering removing all traces of that content. Still, I want to discuss it calmly.])
Please join me on Discord to chat about it.
Here’s the invitation link:



(Arcane is still being rewritten to fix inconsistencies and adapt the content.)

Regarding the renders:
I think I’ve improved a bit, though I still don’t feel it’s the best I can do.

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I know there are still issues with the lighting and other details.
Also, the characters still have these weird neck lines that I really dislike, and I’ll look for a way to remove them.

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I’m sharing a small comparison of how things looked before and how they look now.

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Unfortunately, I won’t be using this preset for the renders in version 0.1.3, as it would make everything look too “patched,” but I’ll definitely use it when I take the time to redo that part while also releasing new updates that continue the story.

I think that’s all for now.
Thank you for your time
And have a great day!

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Chris2041

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Hi.
I’m back with a quick update on the situation.

Today was my day off from work, so I took the time to think about a lot of things and kept practicing how to improve my renders.

Regarding the first point:
I’ve been thinking that some of the decisions I’ve made may not have been the best for the project (which I really want to carry out in the best way possible).

I’m still debating with myself about "what’s best for this project?" and "what should I do to stop making the situation worse?".

If you’re still interested in this project and want to comment on the previous post (regarding the lesbian content and all that. [I’m seriously considering removing all traces of that content. Still, I want to discuss it calmly.])
Please join me on Discord to chat about it.
Here’s the invitation link:



(Arcane is still being rewritten to fix inconsistencies and adapt the content.)

Regarding the renders:
I think I’ve improved a bit, though I still don’t feel it’s the best I can do.

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I know there are still issues with the lighting and other details.
Also, the characters still have these weird neck lines that I really dislike, and I’ll look for a way to remove them.

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I’m sharing a small comparison of how things looked before and how they look now.

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Unfortunately, I won’t be using this preset for the renders in version 0.1.3, as it would make everything look too “patched,” but I’ll definitely use it when I take the time to redo that part while also releasing new updates that continue the story.

I think that’s all for now.
Thank you for your time
And have a great day!

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you really need to change Aria and the gilr that killed MC i forgot his name but especially Aria she really makes me angry the abuse she does to MC if not let us let her dead adter our resurrction and please for the love of god make MC grow a backbone i dont know if this game is supposed to be a femdom one or not but how the characters treat MC i dont know if you try to be funny or not but god talk about tasteless
 
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Gladerine

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I just finished the latest version, and I have to say that I found it quite difficult to immerse myself in it, as we are not even given a quick summary of the universe and its overall history, I mean, we supposedly start in a military school, quite lax given the lack of dedicated uniforms and the nonchalance of the students to learn things that could perhaps save their lives in the future.

I know that a revision of the MC and Aria is planned and fortunately because I have never wanted to send a LI as strong as Aria to fuckoff, and the MC is such a Simp that it becomes unbearable, he looks like a secondary character, he has no trait that sets him apart especially, even his captain is more stylish than him.

Not to mention that he needs glasses while he fights hand to hand and moves a lot, good luck for the guards on the head in the middle of a fight, I still prefer to have Nathaniel, he would make a much better MC and no need for glasses since he can see even without these eyes !

Seriously the MC always does everything a girl tells him to do and does not even respect him to the point that even his stupid childhood friend kills him and prefers not to tell anyone so as not to be fired, it's okay, he has no power he is not important...

I don't know if resurrecting people is a common thing, but since we haven't been told anything, I assume that dying isn't great and that they should be stressed, well no, they talk calmly around his corpse without pressure, good friends clearly.

And instead of saying "Yes my queen" to all the girls, seriously forcing the player to be dominated never works very well especially for a harem, it's MC that they should call Daddy instead !

But the biggest problem is that we don't know anything about the rank or what the ark and the echo are, we don't really know why they are trained to fight, humans? Monsters?

There is a cruel lack of detail that makes the compression of certain scenes very complicated, for example the moment where MC abandons his katana to fight towards the second floor, and we see him appearing in ruins for no reason while a simple scene with a black background and a text that would say "MC opens the door to the second floor quickly, but instead of finding the building he knows he only finds a portal that sucks him in by surprise." and there you have an easy transition to make and understand.

And I could find many other examples like that, the MC doesn't even know that there are other intelligent races than humans on his planet like the catfish men, seriously, isn't that the kind of thing you should learn in elementary school ?!


There you go, I didn't take the time to write all this to be mean, it's just that I think the universe has potential, but if you want to exploit it to its full potential, you should pay more attention to detail otherwise you will quickly lose the players in your story.
Hi
I hadn’t seen your comment, sorry about that…
All the points you mentioned in your comment are already under review.

Adding content was also a priority to provide explanations about what the Ark is, its purpose, and why there needs to be a military school. All of that has been covered so far.

You’re absolutely right—there’s a severe lack of detail, which I likely skipped at the time thinking I could save it for later since I already felt the first version had too much content. Throwing in another 200 lines of explanation wouldn’t have hurt, but in my ignorance, it didn’t seem necessary. Still, as I mentioned, it’s already being addressed.

As for appearing in some ruins via a portal, I genuinely thought I’d made that clear, but it’s good to know it wasn’t. I’ll pay closer attention to those details moving forward.
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That said, I don’t like adding “narrator voiceovers” in the story. I feel they make it too easy to explain things that could be conveyed visually or through the characters’ dialogue. I could’ve started the story with a narrator explaining everything, but who is this narrator? Is it my character? Who is he talking to? Is he reviewing in his mind what Solara is? And why is he doing that?

I prefer to find ways to incorporate those explanations organically. I admit I didn’t have the skill to do so at first, but that fact pushes me to create situations within the plot that explain things more creatively, rather than resorting to a narrator spoon-feeding the reader. I want to challenge myself to do it properly and avoid taking what I see as an unappealing shortcut.

As for the MC, he does know about the existence of those creatures. In fact, there’s a scene where he mentions there’s a specific class about them.

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What I wanted to convey was that he were surprised a mustached fish could possess an ability comparable to his friend (another detail I need to handle more carefully).

The school does have uniforms. In fact, Nath is wearing one.
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And why they don’t have better equipment also has an explanation.
However, that situation didn’t fit into the development of the events.
However, the explanation for that wasn’t planned for this update but for the second one. Some details I intended to include in the second version ended up being added to this one due to the inconsistency issue. But the topic of uniforms isn’t one of those things that makes sense to address in this update.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your feedback.
I truly appreciate how politely you presented your comment!
 
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