RPGM Completed TeiTei ~Tales of Tei~ [Final] [Pinchmaker]

[sirviper235]

I'm still waiting for it to update so I can play it with no issues, but I'm pretty sure after you sell the informations to ako she gives you a "reward", hell the reason you sell those informations for Ako is the outcome of her seducing you so it's pretty much still in that circle.
Again the ntr elements in this game is pretty strong but, it's still avoidable and the content of the villainous Heroines is not insignificant especially for Ako who have 12 scenes from what we know so far.

I am aware but. I did directly ask the developer about that.

And they said the old’it’s optional and entirely avoidable’ which is fine.

But then they added the ever huge red flag of ‘If you add up all the scenes of both non NTR routes it equals the content in the NTR route.’

Which is…Yeah. Thats almost never true. And tells me to tell you to lower your expectations. For rather obvious reasons considering the track record.

Honestly that just makes me worried that this is an NTR game first and foremost and the real effort is there and while it has the other content in. Well…. They did just kind of admit. That the reverse NTR/ temptation contest routes has less in it than the girls NTR.

Or their romance/ love route

 

[Neo-V]

I am aware but. I did directly ask the developer about that.

And they said the old’it’s optional and entirely avoidable’ which is fine.

But then they added the ever huge red flag of ‘If you add up all the scenes of both non NTR routes it equals the content in the NTR route.’

Which is…Yeah. Thats almost never true. And tells me to tell you to lower your expectations. For rather obvious reasons considering the track record.

Honestly that just makes me worried that this is an NTR game first and foremost and the real effort is there and while it has the other content in. Well…. They did just kind of admit. That the reverse NTR/ temptation contest routes has less in it than the girls NTR.

Or their romance/ love route

We're talking about different genre in one game so you can say that again.
Basically the 2 main Heroines have 4 different types of scene:
1- pure love with the protagonist
2- ntr (they slowly fall in love with the gang leader as he get cloe to them)
3- rape (if they lost a battle)
4- prostitution which happens if you fail to capture Ako (or rather the protagonist let her escape) in the first act so the Heroines starts wirking there to gather informations.
So of course the 2 main Heroines will have more scenes in general than the rest. They're called main Heroines for a reason, then again you're eating good with the villainous Heroines since they have more 20 scenes with base CG and I'm not counting the variants scenes where you got the same base cg but with different dialogues and changes..so ignore the rest of and enjoy of what you like if the game.

 

[sirviper235]

We're talking about different genre in one game so you can say that again.
Basically the 2 main Heroines have 4 different types of scene:
1- pure love with the protagonist
2- ntr (they slowly fall in love with the gang leader as he get cloe to them)
3- rape (if they lost a battle)
4- prostitution which happens if you fail to capture Ako (or rather the protagonist let her escape) in the first act so the Heroines starts wirking there to gather informations.
So of course the 2 main Heroines will have more scenes in general than the rest. They're called main Heroines for a reason, then again you're eating good with the villainous Heroines since they have more 20 scenes with base CG and I'm not counting the variants scenes where you got the same base cg but with different dialogues and changes..so ignore the rest of and enjoy of what you like if the game.

Yeah I. Don't think your listining to/understanding what im saying.

Your saying that you can foucus on what you like. WHich i agree with. Yes. the developer does indeed make it clear that the NTR content in optional and can be avoided. I am not disputing that.

However what your misundestanding i think is that the developer when i spoke to them explained to me that in a very big 'Red flag' kind of way that the NTR content does outweigh any of the other routes. Aka it is the most robust and content heavy route/path of the game. Meaning if you do not go down that road. You do not see most of the games content.

THis in and of itself is not an issue.

The issue comes in when you factor in how that will make the other routes play out. By saying that the other routes have to be combined despite being very diffrent genere's to equal the NTR routes amount of content.

That means that these routes will actually be either.

1. Lacking in content in comparison.

2. Feel very spread out and or spaced out and you can feel notciable gaps where NTR content is clearly suppoused to be slotted in.

Or 3. Feel very 'second fiddle' with subpar art and writing or less creativity and effort put in compared to the NTR and it's related contents. WHich there are already plenty signs of.

Many of their updates stress the variety the NTR based content posses. From beasts, animals, insects, gang leaders, prisoner, rape, prostition, cloatihng changes, drugs and more. And we see accompaning art to go with it.

Now by comparison if you searrch through the previous CI-en updates for the Reverse NTR and the pure love sttuff. You barley find anything in comparison and waht you do find looks a bit...Bland in comparison. Almost basic even. It doesn't seem to haveas much creatvity or effort put in.

Simpyl checking previous art updates and even stuff found in previous trial code/art does reveal that some of the reverse NTR art and the pure love art is just...Ok. The scenes are a bit basic and seem more like they will rely on flavor text. Which is fine normally.

But when you see the wide variety to the NTR. That ususally means that the game is an NTR game first and foremost with the other stuff tacked on feeling even if it's not supposued to be. As it simpyl has less effort or even attention put in.


The real/true concern here is that the developer who got their start and popularity as a developer of tempation/seduction. Seems to be going down the route of becoming an NTR dev. And that is worth considering as there are many, many NTR games or games that shoehorn that in nowadays to the point of it's popualirty seeping into other media where it deos not belong as people chase the NTR money crowd.

Sorry for length but i hope i made my points mroe clear.

 

[Neo-V]

1. Lacking in content in comparison.

So what if it is? Let it be... you still got a rich contents of the seduction/reverse ntr, if the ntr is the main dish it doesn't mean you have to eat it, I'm saying that again because this is a very big feast, I've played a lot of seduction/reverse ntr focused games and not a lot has what this game offers in terms of the seduction elements.

2. Feel very spread out and or spaced out and you can feel notciable gaps where NTR content is clearly suppoused to be slotted in.

Not at all, the story goes in a way that actually feels that the ntr is only alternative route of "what if" since the ntr only happens after you defeat the gang leader, after his frustration of losing to the Heroines he start plotting with Ako to win their hearts. so in reality you already defeated this guy and he can only crawl back of you allowed him to Rio was slotted pretty well from what I've read about her and Lilian is the end game boss so she definitely play a huge rule in the story, and their scenes build up quite well of how they make the protagonist fall if he gave in to their charms.

Or 3. Feel very 'second fiddle' with subpar art and writing or less creativity and effort put in compared to the NTR and it's related contents. WHich there are already plenty signs of.

Just see the cg art of Villainous Heroines dude, those are definitely not a subpar art in any kind of way, and again the villainous have variety even in base h cg, for example:



The first one happens if you reject all Ako's advances and had done interrogating her, she begs the protagonist not to turn her to the authorities and tries seduce him one last time.
The second happens if you accepted all Ako's advances and the protagonist is completely under her thumb now, she clings to him in teasing way that gives a completely different vibe.
Keep in mind that I considered these 2 scenes as 1 when I said that Ako has 12 scenes since they share the same base cg. How many seduction games give you this much value?

Another example:


The first one is from the demo and we all know about it, the second one is where Lilise in the final final lesson for the protagonist of teaching him about pleasure and they both do it on the bed instead of the desk in the first time.

So as you can see the scenes look quite good and from what I've experienced they're not short as the ones in "mirage defection" for example but not overly long.

but the real question here is why would you compare the ntr elements with seduction elements if you're not gonna play the ntr route to begin with? Just play the parts you want to experience then you can complain later if it let you down, Simply put if the developer made a fully fledge ntr game and I would simply look elsewhere, I'm quite happy he didn't forget the elements we love in his first game and more than that he's actually announced it's sequel, so rest assured that the developer is still in the seduction genre, even if the new game disappointed you, just wait for Tei Tei 2.
Peace.

 

[sirviper235]

So what if it is? Let it be... you still got a rich contents of the seduction/reverse ntr, if the ntr is the main dish it doesn't mean you have to eat it, I'm saying that again because this is a very big feast, I've played a lot of seduction/reverse ntr focused games and not a lot has what this game offers in terms of the seduction elements.



Not at all, the story goes in a way that actually feels that the ntr is only alternative route of "what if" since the ntr only happens after you defeat the gang leader, after his frustration of losing to the Heroines he start plotting with Ako to win their hearts. so in reality you already defeated this guy and he can only crawl back of you allowed him to Rio was slotted pretty well from what I've read about her and Lilian is the end game boss so she definitely play a huge rule in the story, and their scenes build up quite well of how they make the protagonist fall if he gave in to their charms.





Just see the cg art of Villainous Heroines dude, those are definitely not a subpar art in any kind of way, and again the villainous have variety even in base h cg, for example:
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The first one happens if you reject all Ako's advances and had done interrogating her, she begs the protagonist not to turn her to the authorities and tries seduce him one last time.
The second happens if you accepted all Ako's advances and the protagonist is completely under her thumb now, she clings to him in teasing way that gives a completely different vibe.
Keep in mind that I considered these 2 scenes as 1 when I said that Ako has 12 scenes since they share the same base cg. How many seduction games give you this much value?

Another example:
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The first one is from the demo and we all know about it, the second one is where Lilise in the final final lesson for the protagonist of teaching him about pleasure and they both do it on the bed instead of the desk in the first time.

So as you can see the scenes look quite good and from what I've experienced they're not short as the ones in "mirage defection" for example but not overly long.

but the real question here is why would you compare the ntr elements with seduction elements if you're not gonna play the ntr route to begin with? Just play the parts you want to experience then you can complain later if it let you down, Simply put if the developer made a fully fledge ntr game and I would simply look elsewhere, I'm quite happy he didn't forget the elements we love in his first game and more than that he's actually announced it's sequel, so rest assured that the developer is still in the seduction genre, even if the new game disappointed you, just wait for Tei Tei 2.
Peace.

OK your clearly not even really trying to understand what im saying. And what you'v said shows your trying to deflect away frorm it.

Also the art you posted actually just proves my point. THis stuff looks good but IS very basic. Stuff like this is in a lot of other seduction/tempaiton games.

And i can prove it/defeat your entire point with it by just asking.

Would you mind posting the links Ci -en updates you got these from and how old they are or apart they are?

And second. Would you mind posting a few images of the recent or even older NTR art updates? Beacuse when you look at those. You'll see a lot more creativity and thought put into the visuals of it, rathher than the sitaution and flavor text of these ones.

Im going to assume you won't want to do that tho. Cause if you did and comapred you'd realize how few reverse NTR arts there are to use as your examples.

And the variety and creativy of the NTR arts far outwieghs what you posted here. ANd by posting them next to eachother it becomes very obvious. So you'd defeat your own counter points by just....Looking.

Im not trying to be rude. But your not really adressing the main poitns im making at all and your trying to brush them aside and ingore the core of it.

 

[Neo-V]

OK your clearly not even really trying to understand what im saying. And what you'v said shows your trying to deflect away frorm it.

Not really but sure, whatever you say.

Also the art you posted actually just proves my point. THis stuff looks good but IS very basic. Stuff like this is in a lot of other seduction/tempaiton games.

Let's see...





Can you explain to me as an example why these ntr cgs are so special and what makes them more creative than the seduction scenes? Btw are you going to provide examples as I did or are you just gonna keep using the term: "you don't understand" to no end?
What I understand is that you're trying to make a problem while there's absolutely none to begin with, the developer did indeed put thoughts in the ntr scenes because honestly ntr sucks to me (aside from not being my thing) mainly for these reasons:
1-the Heroine is dumb, ultra dumb in fact, to the extent that makes you wanting to rip your hair off.
2-the villian who ntr the Heroine is usually have the stupidest reason to ntr them (me big D, me evil, me ntr)
3- he has a brainwashing abilities which make it like that the Heroine would never fall for him to begin with if not for these abilities , so he's technically cheating.
It almost like you're mad at the developer for actually taking this in mind and making the ntr scenes works without us thinking the Heroines are dumb and that the gang leader isn't just a mindless ntr guy that only want to prey in them because that's his name in the description.
Yes there's a good build for ntr events. but for a good reason, no one wants to see another insufferable situation where brainwashing is used, the Heroine being dumb, or the a villian who rapes the Heroine 1 time and suddenly she becomes a complete slut. Then again you don't have to see any of that at all! you can enjoy these scenes that you blatantly asked to provide and be done with it:


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I'm not gonna post Lilise scenes since their situation is kinda vague after the illustrations were changed, but you get the point, and I'm gonna give you the honor of posting ntr scenes since you look so obsessed with them if I may say.

But anyway, do You think these scenes are basic? With no creativity? Maybe even boring? That's completely fine, you can drop the game entirely and find another one with that suit your taste, or wait for the Tei Tei sequel.

 

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[sirviper235]

Not really but sure, whatever you say.


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Can you explain to me as an example why these ntr cgs are so special and what makes them more creative than the seduction scenes? Btw are you going to provide examples as I did or are you just gonna keep using the term: "you don't understand" to no end?
What I understand is that you're trying to make a problem while there's absolutely none to begin with, the developer did indeed put thoughts in the ntr scenes because honestly ntr sucks to me (aside from not being my thing) mainly for these reasons:
1-the Heroine is dumb, ultra dumb in fact, to the extent that makes you wanting to rip your hair off.
2-the villian who ntr the Heroine is usually have the stupidest reason to ntr them (me big D, me evil, me ntr)
3- he has a brainwashing abilities which make it like that the Heroine would never fall for him to begin with if not for these abilities , so he's technically cheating.
It almost like you're mad at the developer for actually taking this in mind and making the ntr scenes works without us thinking the Heroines are dumb and that the gang leader isn't just a mindless ntr guy that only want to prey in them because that's his name in the description.
Yes there's a good build for ntr events. but for a good reason, no one wants to see another insufferable situation where brainwashing is used, the Heroine being dumb, or the a villian who rapes the Heroine 1 time and suddenly she becomes a complete slut. Then again you don't have to see any of that at all! you can enjoy these scenes that you blatantly asked to provide and be done with it:


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I'm not gonna post Lilise scenes since their situation is kinda vague after the illustrations were changed, but you get the point, and I'm gonna give you the honor of posting ntr scenes since you look so obsessed with them if I may say.

But anyway, do You think these scenes are basic? With no creativity? Maybe even boring? That's completely fine, you can drop the game entirely and find another one with that suit your taste, or wait for the Tei Tei sequel.

Ok again your trying to dismiss my points. But this time i will be extremly clear so you can't do that. But first.

1. You chose the blandest of the NTR arts on purpouse. You searrched through the Ci-en and so can everyone else through your links. You know full well there are far more than these and tat these are not even the base to judge the rest.

2. Your actually showing exactly what im saying. I am NOT saying the reverse NTR stuff is BAD or boring. Im saying that in comparision there is less obvious foucus and creativity.

3. You can littearly see the big date gaps between these which are filled with NTR route foucus's. If your so willing. Please count how many Reverse NTR updates we have gotten and pure love. Then count how many NTR onees there are and post it here for all to see.

And 4. Let me now get into what i am trying to say. Beacsue here is something important. There have been many, many NTR updates. Yet the ones you chose here. Are not the ones that showcased the previous mentioend content.
Many of their updates stress the variety the NTR based content posses. From beasts, animals, insects, gang leaders, prisoner, rape, prostition, cloatihng changes, drugs and more. And we see accompaning art to go with it.

But you chose not to post that and isntead chose the most basic ones while picking out as many of the good Reverse NTR ones trying to discredit my words. ANd people can simply check and easily find by cliking random articles to see what i mean.And your unwillingess to post it, comes off as if you don't want to post the ones that when put next to the reverse art updates. DO make them look like they have less creatvity and effort put in from a visual standpoint.


However allow me to be clear about this. So there can be no misunderstanding. My concerns/issues have nothing to do with the content of the Reverse NTR route's/options. THat is perfectly fine. I actually look forward to playing through that. I am not saying i want tales of Tei 2. I am not saying i am fixated on the NTR of this game as the big problem.

What i am saying is, is that the way the developer is acting and how he's handling updates. As well as the msot recent Demo. All imply a concerning sign. That he is considering and is stepping into becoming a full NTR developer and is testing the waters here and is getting much more into it than he is with the pure love or Reverse NTR stuff that we all became fans of him for.


As ii had said before. I had brought up my concerns about the NTR content of the game to the developer. They acutally reponded tto me and tried to assuade my doubts/concerns which was nice of them, tho they dropped some red flags. I accepted it.

However.

When you check it's...A...Bit of a weird/odd look.

When you have a bunch of updates about the NTR content of the game back, to back, to back consistatnly. Then someone, say me. Brings up concerns about it.You try to calm them. Then have a pure love route update which is good. If very sketchy an unfinifinshed. then another NTR update which is fine. then after that 1 single reverse Update/non NTR one practically.

And then you announce you don't have anything fo this week for the first time sense this games development started. And it has to be delayed till next. That is rather odd feeling. Almost makes one wounder if they have over foucused on the NTR so much they have a ton for that. But not much if anything really to show for the other routes.

Even the reverse NTR art updaes don't seem to have as much effort or detial put in. As the more recent reverse one s...Littearly just the girl showing off her covered crotch the PC and pushing him into it..And then doing a footjob/step.That's it. Comapred to the rather creative sketches and scenrios of the NTR art updates that's...That's weird.

Then the demo drops and it's almost enteirly NTR content and a half implmeented it seems reverse NTR reward thing? And just the same old form last demo pure love stuff with like 1 new addition?

AFTER updates for nothing but NTR stuff? Yeah that's....That's starting to become a red flag i think of what this dev and games priorities are.

And this is a fair and valid concern. You are essentily going 'Don't like it, don't play it.' However given the recent what? Nigh a decade of that argument being used by modern gaming companies and their devs and how THAT has gone over with modern games. It's clear that's not a good or valid counter. Beacuse it's like the best responces say.

"Do not support the content you do not want. Just beacuse some of what you want is in a game or product, don't ignore or brush past the clear foucus on the parts you do not." That is my entire point. The concerning thing about this developer's updates is that the NTR updates have been frequent and he's clearly putting a ton of effort into it, to make it as visaully creative and appealing as possible.

While not doing the same for the other routes. Look at how few Pure love updates there have been and how spread out these Reverse NTR ones are.

THat is very odd. As isn't this guyfirst an foremost a reverse NTR/Tempation game developer? Why is he putting SO much effort in and admitting openly that the NTR route has the most content?

SHouldn't it be the REVERSE NTR/Vilanessess route that has the most content, given what he is known for? And why would he say it matches up as equal in content if we also include the pure love route content? Just how short is the reverse route then/how spread out is it's content if it has to have an entierly diffrent route's content combined with it to match up numbers wise?


This is worth bringing up and being concerned about. You discreditng and trying to brush it aside on purpouse, does not adress the core issues here and that this is a legimiate thing to be concerned about. Considering many other devs in the past have just had this stuff shrugged off. ANd before anyone knew it, they were full time NTR devs or putting in games it didn't belong.

 

[Neo-V]

You chose the blandest of the NTR arts on purpouse. You searrched through the Ci-en and so can everyone else through your links. You know full well there are far more than these and tat these are not even the base to judge the rest.

Absolute nonsense and baseless accusation. I literally looked up the developer page and posted the first ntr related pictures I found! 2 for each Heroine! then again why don't you post the pictures that you think are superior and creative or whatever?

2. Your actually showing exactly what im saying. I am NOT saying the reverse NTR stuff is BAD or boring. Im saying that in comparision there is less obvious foucus and creativity.

It's only showing that you have absolutely posted 0 contents while I actually did, where are these ntr scenes that you speak of so highly of? show it to us, we can take it buddy.

3. You can littearly see the big date gaps between these which are filled with NTR route foucus's. If your so willing. Please count how many Reverse NTR updates we have gotten and pure love. Then count how many NTR onees there are and post it here for all to see.

I think I asked you to do that since I did my part or are you so busy that you can write this long post but cannot copy some links? And talking about the gap is irrelevant, the developer literally said that the work on the reverse ntr is and the seduction elements is almost finished since the illustrators finished their work on it while the illustrator of Akane and Haku who is also in charge of the ntr scenes and pure love etc... is having a different schedule and will take time to finish the the illustrations, that's all to it.

And 4. Let me now get into what i am trying to say. Beacsue here is something important. There have been many, many NTR updates. Yet the ones you chose here. Are not the ones that showcased the previous mentioend content.
Many of their updates stress the variety the NTR based content posses. From beasts, animals, insects, gang leaders, prisoner, rape, prostition, cloatihng changes, drugs and more. And we see accompaning art to go with it.

You're talking about the rape scenes in battles, completely different topic since we were talking about the ntr scenes that involved the gang leader. Rape=/=ntr

But you chose not to post that and isntead chose the most basic ones while picking out as many of the good Reverse NTR ones trying to discredit my words. ANd people can simply check and easily find by cliking random articles to see what i mean.And your unwillingess to post it, comes off as if you don't want to post the ones that when put next to the reverse art updates. DO make them look like they have less creatvity and effort put in from a visual standpoint.

Again you have hands right? How about you post these yourself since you're so obsessed with them and explain to us in details why are they so creative that they overshadow the seduction scenes? You're the one who made that claim do back it up and stop making assumptions about my intentions please, it's very rude.

However allow me to be clear about this. So there can be no misunderstanding. My concerns/issues have nothing to do with the content of the Reverse NTR route's/options. THat is perfectly fine. I actually look forward to playing through that. I am not saying i want tales of Tei 2. I am not saying i am fixated on the NTR of this game as the big problem.

Great, then please enjoy the game when it comes out.

What i am saying is, is that the way the developer is acting and how he's handling updates. As well as the msot recent Demo. All imply a concerning sign. That he is considering and is stepping into becoming a full NTR developer and is testing the waters here and is getting much more into it than he is with the pure love or Reverse NTR stuff that we all became fans of him for.

Your concern is littearly unfound, the developer literally announced TeiTei sequel and he mentioned how much he want to improve the seduction elements and geuss what? No ntr mentioned at all.

When you have a bunch of updates about the NTR content of the game back, to back, to back consistatnly. Then someone, say me. Brings up concerns about it.You try to calm them. Then have a pure love route update which is good. If very sketchy an unfinifinshed. then another NTR update which is fine. then after that 1 single reverse Update/non NTR one practically.

And then you announce you don't have anything fo this week for the first time sense this games development started. And it has to be delayed till next. That is rather odd feeling. Almost makes one wounder if they have over foucused on the NTR so much they have a ton for that. But not much if anything really to show for the other routes.

The for the recent ntr updates is simple yet you continue to beat around it so constantly, the illustrators of the seduction scenes has finished their work and illustrator that in charge of Haku and Akane scene is on different schedule (the developer said he gave him time to complete his work) which is why at the start of the updates for the game there were a ton of articles about the seduction scenes and now that the ntr illustrator has progressed the updates changes to the ntr/pure love/rape events, that's all to it.

Then the demo drops and it's almost enteirly NTR content and a half implmeented it seems reverse NTR reward thing? And just the same old form last demo pure love stuff with like 1 new addition?

AFTER updates for nothing but NTR stuff? Yeah that's....That's starting to become a red flag i think of what this dev and games priorities are.

Yes! Because the 1st demo had barely any ntr content while the game has an ntr content to it so it's only fair that he added these content so that people know what kind of game they're getting into, easy right?

And this is a fair and valid concern. You are essentily going 'Don't like it, don't play it.' However given the recent what? Nigh a decade of that argument being used by modern gaming companies and their devs and how THAT has gone over with modern games. It's clear that's not a good or valid counter. Beacuse it's like the best responces say.

"Do not support the content you do not want. Just beacuse some of what you want is in a game or product, don't ignore or brush past the clear foucus on the parts you do not." That is my entire point. The concerning thing about this developer's updates is that the NTR updates have been frequent and he's clearly putting a ton of effort into it, to make it as visaully creative and appealing as possible.

While not doing the same for the other routes. Look at how few Pure love updates there have been and how spread out these Reverse NTR ones are.

Irrelevant, the game developers you speak of has nothing to do with working on different genre like this one, the reason why they got so much criticism is for the fact that ruined good games with their political agenda. Just like dragon age, the last of us and saints row etc... not to mention that they were very rude and disrespectful towrafs the fans that they were supporting them for a long time, and if the little of what I want is enough for me then this is what I want, just because it's not enough for you doesn't mean it's the same for the others don't you think so?

THat is very odd. As isn't this guyfirst an foremost a reverse NTR/Tempation game developer? Why is he putting SO much effort in and admitting openly that the NTR route has the most content?

SHouldn't it be the REVERSE NTR/Vilanessess route that has the most content, given what he is known for? And why would he say it matches up as equal in content if we also include the pure love route content? Just how short is the reverse route then/how spread out is it's content if it has to have an entierly diffrent route's content combined with it to match up numbers wise?


This is worth bringing up and being concerned about. You discreditng and trying to brush it aside on purpouse, does not adress the core issues here and that this is a legimiate thing to be concerned about. Considering many other devs in the past have just had this stuff shrugged off. ANd before anyone knew it, they were full time NTR devs or putting in games it didn't belong.

Let us say that a developer of a famous and popular racing game started developing an action adventure game, and it looks good so far but some people are mad that he's not developing another racing game, what right do these people have to tell what the developer should make? If he want to work on this game let him be, he's putting his passion into it so respect that even if you don't like it. The developer isn't entitled to our taste, I myself would be very disappointed if he decided to make a full ntr game, but since he has no plans to abandon the seduction elements I'm more than happy to continue supporting him. And if he decided in the future to abandon this genre I'll simply wish him good luck and I'll look elsewhere for a game that suits my taste.
Also this is my final reply in this post since it's originally for TeiTei and we ruined it by talking about Bellwether of the twin star, I made a post for the game and it's still a mess but it'll do for now.
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...of-twin-stars-unrelesed.246950/#post-16345158

 

[Ser Mister]

 

[sirviper235]

Absolute nonsense and baseless accusation. I literally looked up the developer page and posted the first ntr related pictures I found! 2 for each Heroine! then again why don't you post the pictures that you think are superior and creative or whatever?


It's only showing that you have absolutely posted 0 contents while I actually did, where are these ntr scenes that you speak of so highly of? show it to us, we can take it buddy.



I think I asked you to do that since I did my part or are you so busy that you can write this long post but cannot copy some links? And talking about the gap is irrelevant, the developer literally said that the work on the reverse ntr is and the seduction elements is almost finished since the illustrators finished their work on it while the illustrator of Akane and Haku who is also in charge of the ntr scenes and pure love etc... is having a different schedule and will take time to finish the the illustrations, that's all to it.


You're talking about the rape scenes in battles, completely different topic since we were talking about the ntr scenes that involved the gang leader. Rape=/=ntr




Again you have hands right? How about you post these yourself since you're so obsessed with them and explain to us in details why are they so creative that they overshadow the seduction scenes? You're the one who made that claim do back it up and stop making assumptions about my intentions please, it's very rude.

Great, then please enjoy the game when it comes out.


Your concern is littearly unfound, the developer literally announced TeiTei sequel and he mentioned how much he want to improve the seduction elements and geuss what? No ntr mentioned at all.


The for the recent ntr updates is simple yet you continue to beat around it so constantly, the illustrators of the seduction scenes has finished their work and illustrator that in charge of Haku and Akane scene is on different schedule (the developer said he gave him time to complete his work) which is why at the start of the updates for the game there were a ton of articles about the seduction scenes and now that the ntr illustrator has progressed the updates changes to the ntr/pure love/rape events, that's all to it.


Yes! Because the 1st demo had barely any ntr content while the game has an ntr content to it so it's only fair that he added these content so that people know what kind of game they're getting into, easy right?


Irrelevant, the game developers you speak of has nothing to do with working on different genre like this one, the reason why they got so much criticism is for the fact that ruined good games with their political agenda. Just like dragon age, the last of us and saints row etc... not to mention that they were very rude and disrespectful towrafs the fans that they were supporting them for a long time, and if the little of what I want is enough for me then this is what I want, just because it's not enough for you doesn't mean it's the same for the others don't you think so?



Let us say that a developer of a famous and popular racing game started developing an action adventure game, and it looks good so far but some people are mad that he's not developing another racing game, what right do these people have to tell what the developer should make? If he want to work on this game let him be, he's putting his passion into it so respect that even if you don't like it. The developer isn't entitled to our taste, I myself would be very disappointed if he decided to make a full ntr game, but since he has no plans to abandon the seduction elements I'm more than happy to continue supporting him. And if he decided in the future to abandon this genre I'll simply wish him good luck and I'll look elsewhere for a game that suits my taste.
Also this is my final reply in this post since it's originally for TeiTei and we ruined it by talking about Bellwether of the twin star, I made a post for the game and it's still a mess but it'll do for now.
https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...of-twin-stars-unrelesed.246950/#post-16345158

Look neo.

I tried to be respectful and direct about my opinions and concerns. But you continue to be dismissive and reductive towards everything I say and you keep trying to turn it all around on me. And put me on the spot.

Clearly I cannot continue speaking about this with you because you will discredit anything I say or bring up. And deflect away from any of my points or concerns.

I know what you’re doing. You’re trying to annoy or upset me so you look like the reasonable one. And you made the thread to help with that. Despite this new game being a very decent length of time away from us still.

And so I’m simply ending this here as no value will come of this.

Farewell.

 

[testacc2]

new version
Mega

I downloaded from cien, so I don't know if this one has the same issue, but if anyone experiences missing image errors or the likes, try downloading the previous demo and overwriting the new version's files with the old version's while skipping duplicate files.

 

[ajun962]

I downloaded from cien, so I don't know if this one has the same issue, but if anyone experiences missing image errors or the likes, try downloading the previous demo and overwriting the new version's files with the old version's while skipping duplicate files.

I'm sorry. I don't have an update at the moment because I'm sharing it after it's updated. I'll share it when it's updated.

 

[poopingman]

How to get a skill called Dancing Sword?

 

[123qzfa]

+1 Since there seems to be people here with the rough/bonus CGs, can I ask if anyone could upload the heroines sketches? If you could post the bonus CG with the 3rd act boss, the trainer, (or any) that would be appreciated while waiting.

 

[poopingman]

+1 Since there seems to be people here with the rough/bonus CGs, can I ask if anyone could upload the heroines sketches? If you could post the bonus CG with the 3rd act boss, the trainer, (or any) that would be appreciated while waiting.

Although you may not be asking me, I think of course you can ask as I think no one will prohibit you sir or madame from asking.