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3xtreme

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I'm gonna assume you haven't played the old version in a while as there are several new encounters in chapter 1-4 revamp that were originally not in the game, better renders, MC and Anne communicating better with each other and defining the paths leading to chapter 6 from which everything went bonkers in the original version, so yeah quite a bit has changed and i applaud Mircom3D for taking the time to do so and making the game better for everyone, but by all means if you like just bonking happening all the time for no rhyme or reason then the original version is for you... Personally i'd like the Adventurous couple to be about just that, not just random meaningless sex every 5 minutes.. I still can't get "The Phil" out of my head after all this months.. It has scarred me forever.
I played the old version. Like I said, the paths are easier to choose now which is a good thing. In terms of visuals,I don't see much improvement apart from animations. Maybe it's just me. And, Yeah, that Phil dude was creepy af :D
 
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ThatGuyWithaAfro

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Lmao... Just saw a warning that says annie will cheat on you or cuck you if something drops too low..

This MC is already a cuck.. And I mean... does MC really give a fuck about 'cheating' in this game?

Also that game over with Elena is complete bullshit... MC should be able to have fun with side chicks and then isn't SHE supposed to be off getting railed by two dudes??
 

HueyFreeman32

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Hello guys casual here. this is my first ntr that im actively trying. not a fan of the whole idea but this game and how its made is dope enough to not mind it much . Now my questions is, Its hard for me to follow the walkthrough to make different paths and saves. is there anyway to make better sense of it? The creator didnt make it a usual walkthrough for spoiler reasons but im not sure if its based off routes or pieces of scenes. its confusing me honestly. Lastly whats the differences between the new and old version and should i download the old one too?
 

shanarc

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Hello guys casual here. this is my first ntr that im actively trying. not a fan of the whole idea but this game and how its made is dope enough to not mind it much . Now my questions is, Its hard for me to follow the walkthrough to make different paths and saves. is there anyway to make better sense of it? The creator didnt make it a usual walkthrough for spoiler reasons but im not sure if its based off routes or pieces of scenes. its confusing me honestly. Lastly whats the differences between the new and old version and should i download the old one too?
Play the old one first if you are planning on playing both. Also the walkthrough is pretty clear and most of the confusing path are already discussed here so feel free to use the search option in this thread if you are stuck somewhere. If you still don't find anything ask and most will help.
Edit: Old has more chapters while new is revamped version where the path the mc can take are made more clear.
 

dick bullcock

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The original game is great. The revamp is one step beyond, the graphics are great++.
People's bad comments, well, you know. As my friends group uses to say, "in internet nobody knows I am a dog"
 

Vypress

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Anybody got an actually helpful walkthrough for the cuckold path in the original version. The Current walkthrough is not helpful at all and I keep only getting the 1 cuck scene in the shower.
 

Segnbora

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does MC really give a fuck about 'cheating' in this game?
In the old version, explicitly with Ryan and implicitly with Martin. I assume the Dre storyline would've gotten there as well, but that's speculation on my part.

That said, Anne does care about the MC cheating. She's vocally displeased in the old version, but it doesn't lead to anything. In the new version it can actually lead to a game over if you don't make the right choices. Part of the point of a revamp is to bring logic to all of this: either they have an open relationship or they don't.

Also that game over with Elena is complete bullshit... MC should be able to have fun with side chicks and then isn't SHE supposed to be off getting railed by two dudes??
There are three possible outcomes to that scene, and only one of them is a game over. Anne is far more likely to be okay with the MC and his side action if the MC's been honest with her about it.
 

aqd

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I find the different paths a little counterintuitive, or just hard to intuit. I've gone through at each decision and tried to make the most logical choices assuming:

1) MC doesn't want to cheat, Anne doesn't want to cheat
2) MC wants to cheat and doesn't want to share Anne
3) MC doesn't want to cheat and wants to share Anne
4) MC wants to cheat and wants to share Anne

The results I got didn't seem to line up with the decisions. the MC shows no sign of wanting to share, but she comes home and tells him about cheating, and Anne doesn't appear to start cheating on the MC when he pursues every opportunity for sex. I'm wondering if I'm missing some routes, or if the payoff for those decision will just come down the road a little more. Overall I still enjoy the game, the renders look great, and I think the rewrite is a step forward. I just find myself wanting a walkthrough to trigger all the scenes since 'roleplaying' logical choices doesn't seem to get there.

Also, on vacation when you stay out without her that would be a great opportunity to come back to the room and catch her cheating. I kept expecting that to happen, but I don't think that's a route.
 

Alleykatt

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This game has some great shots of Anne with her face covered in cum, which I find a huge turn on. I hope Mircom3D is going to make more use of that in future releases.
 

Avaron1974

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The way I always assumed it would go is they would eventually split up and he would end up with one of the girls he was sleeping with, hopefully Nicole.

As time went on in the old one she was cheating with so many people yet he was only cheating with Nicole in my game. She was acting like it was okay for her to do shit yet he had to sit at home and maybe, just maybe, get a handjob.

I haven't played much of the revamp, gonna wait until it's finished now and see what is being said.

I have no problems with cheating and all that as long as it goes both ways.
 
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Eye-switcher

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I find the different paths a little counterintuitive, or just hard to intuit. I've gone through at each decision and tried to make the most logical choices assuming:

1) MC doesn't want to cheat, Anne doesn't want to cheat
2) MC wants to cheat and doesn't want to share Anne
3) MC doesn't want to cheat and wants to share Anne
4) MC wants to cheat and wants to share Anne

The results I got didn't seem to line up with the decisions. the MC shows no sign of wanting to share, but she comes home and tells him about cheating, and Anne doesn't appear to start cheating on the MC when he pursues every opportunity for sex. I'm wondering if I'm missing some routes, or if the payoff for those decision will just come down the road a little more. Overall I still enjoy the game, the renders look great, and I think the rewrite is a step forward. I just find myself wanting a walkthrough to trigger all the scenes since 'roleplaying' logical choices doesn't seem to get there.

Also, on vacation when you stay out without her that would be a great opportunity to come back to the room and catch her cheating. I kept expecting that to happen, but I don't think that's a route.
I agree, thats why i question the statement that its so much easier now to see what action that leads to what. Maybe im just stupid, but i had quite a good grasp of what action that lead to witch route, with one big exception in the last game and that feeling i dont have here.
 
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Segnbora

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I find the different paths a little counterintuitive, or just hard to intuit.
I wouldn't say there are paths yet. Maybe mini-paths, but nothing's permanently consequential so far (with one exception). I looked at the script, though I didn't go over it with a fine-toothed comb, and the only thing that seems like it's going to matter long-term is exactly what the game warns you about: don't neglect Anne and don't lie to her. Everything else is self-contained within a limited storyline, save for the Nicole vs. January (vs. Elena, kinda) and Eric vs. Dre choices. But those aren't paths yet. I thought, for a moment, that the three options given to Anne (and the two given to the MC) on the last night in Punta Cana would be the start of some long-term content influences (interracial vs. lesbian vs. group), but it doesn't seem so, or at least I couldn't see any variables being tracked.

If you're "playing" a path at the moment it's mostly for your own purposes, if that makes sense.

the MC shows no sign of wanting to share, but she comes home and tells him about cheating, and Anne doesn't appear to start cheating on the MC when he pursues every opportunity for sex.
Since I didn't try to stop any of the extramarital activities I haven't seen what happens if you do, but it's possible. Some of the same sort of logical errors from the old version persist. For instance, sex with Randall is referred to in the aftermath even if you chose not to have it.

My personal belief is that there shouldn't be any sort of "faithful" path in the game. Plenty of other games for that. It should be taken as a given that one or both of them are going to have sex with others, and if there are paths they should be about whether their extramarital activities are pursued healthily and honestly, together or apart, secretly and destructively, etc. That doesn't mean that a player can't choose to keep the MC from taking advantage of his own opportunities, but that the player can't "stop" Anne (because that's the entire point of the game), but can instead only influence how those encounters fit into their relationship and what they do to it. But I'm not the dev, and so we'll see what we get. My hunch all along has been that the game wasn't originally intended to have a happy ending in which they stay together in marital bliss, but that subsequent feedback indicating that people would really like a game like that (because it more or less doesn't exist) may have influenced the content, and the revamp in which there's vastly improved communication and in which honesty is actually consequential would seem to bear that out. Pure speculation on my part, of course.

Also, on vacation when you stay out without her that would be a great opportunity to come back to the room and catch her cheating.
I find it difficult to call anything Anne does in Punta Cana cheating, since the MC's done nothing but urge her to have sex with pretty much everyone. (I guess there are options to the contrary, but as I said I don't see the purpose of playing this particular game if you're going to keep Anne to yourself.) Whether or not he chooses to watch or go have his own fun is his business. (She repeatedly asks him "were you watching?" without the answer seeming to matter, which suggests to me that the voyeurism kink is it's own separate thing.) In the original, Anne's cheating — which I'd define as concealing and/or lying about extramarital sex — doesn't really come up until Martin, and even then the first two encounters were with the MC's knowledge and permission, however grudging. Anne is offered a bunch of opportunities to cheat after that, but that's only known to the player; the MC is completely in the dark, save for the "I wonder where Anne is and if she's having sex?" home visits which never really paid off like I suspect they were intended to. The MC doesn't actually confront Anne's cheating until the second Ryan visit, and even then it's not because she's having sex with him — she not only has blanket permission from the MC to have sex with Ryan, but the MC sends Ryan home from the bar for that very reason — it's because she's lying about it.

The original version makes a bit of a hash of what seemed to be one of the core concepts of the game: the MC is really eager for Anne to show herself off and play around with others, but he 1) is increasingly indifferent/neglectful about it in terms of their own relationship, 2) doesn't appear to understand the concept of boundaries or limits (for either of them), and 3) is painfully (and increasingly) unmindful of how Anne feels about what they're doing, which leads to Anne no longer caring what he thinks. The revamp seems to have grasped this thread with both hands, which is important because it makes both their communication and their choices matter. Once Anne decides to take the big leap with Cornell she's much clearer about her expectations and limits, but also about what she expects from the MC. That she can be so angry about Elena that she leaves the MC, angry but then apologetic, or encouraging and happy for him is a huge leap forward in the game taking the consequences of their activities seriously, but especially in treating the consequences of the MC's choices seriously.
 
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Trasher2018

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It's mostly the same on the story beats so far, with some changes. Besides a lot of the renders being redone, there have been a fair amount of scenes added. Really it's leading up to where a lot of the major changes will presumably be in chapter 6 and beyond as that is where most of the problems really started to popup in the original in terms of bigger choices and the where the separate paths were in theory to take shape.

When the game was first starting and Mircom was getting stuff figured out, there were often some hiccups in between each release, saves would break and what not. As I remember the original chapter 6 was sort of a point where he had basically got stuff fixed so saves wouldn't break anymore on updates as well as adding in the porn night choice for the 3 main paths. Obviously the impetus for the revamp was that the results of those choices a bit convoluted from there on.

So while I imagine some may think "why not just revamp from chapter 6 onward?" Well given the history of the game and that there were the aforementioned issues between updates through chapter 6 or so, it's pretty easy to imagine that going back to chapter 1 and retooling the code and all of that from the beginning since it was troublesome at the time is ideal and will better support the later changes. Of course there is the obvious desire to redo some of the original renders and stuff with a more experienced eye as well as flesh out the story a bit more with some of the bits of additional content that's been added.
I agree. I replayed the old 1-10 version and the revamp is clearly an improved game. I hope for a pure or mostly pure cheating Ann path ... no cucking and stuff, only at the beginning to get her engine started ^^
 

ThatGuyWithaAfro

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All I know is, later in the game when she is having sex left and right without MC knowing, and then finds the MC fucking some chick, there better not be a game over..

Of course I expect this version to be different.. I.E actually confront her if we suspect she is 'cheating'.
 

Dependable_223

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All I know is, later in the game when she is having sex left and right without MC knowing, and then finds the MC fucking some chick, there better not be a game over..

Of course I expect this version to be different.. I.E actually confront her if we suspect she is 'cheating'.
Indeed and when that happens i expect mc will be able to cheat without game over since Ann is cheating too. so her reaction should change when mc confronts her about her actions..
 

PTM666

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And if you confront her for cheating, it would be a hilarious burn if your choices are to leave her(game over), or stay together knowing she cheats, and knowing you won't leave her, she strays more and more.
 
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