Sadowdark

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I believe he had 1-3 thousand of patrons before too. now it's down to ~250, he remade the game once, took forever, then he started taking forever to update and then he started updating 1 day at a time with less content total for the week than he had when he did 1 week at a time and it also took longer to make 1 day a time even with less content. There were more bugs.
now he's doing this..I get that he's not good enough to keep track of everything story wise.
But his remaining patrons I get that he wants to cater to them, but he should consider why the ones who left did so.
It probably wasn't the content, it was most likely the time it takes to update.
It's easier to keep patrons than to get back those who left though. It's not easy. Consitency is key though.
I think that the content of errors and hopeless stupidities in the illogical plot and the game mechanics also contributed to this. Waiting for the update also caused him to lose so many patrons, but the best part is that he is doing nothing to get new customers and pump up the game for the better. He has just surrounded himself with some of the patrons and realizes their hopeless idea. And the game becomes a worse and worse grotesque comedy.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Doesn't the game force cheating to happen regardless of the choices made? Makes you wonder why there even is a faithful variable lol.
Game will eventually be made for the 5 to 10 remaining patrons and will be super specific to their tastes lol.

She will have sex with a dog and a fat old homeless guy with a glass eye and prosthetic leg while eating sushi on a bus while three little people dressed as santa's elves watch and jerk off all while she claims to be 'faithful'.

And scene.
Maybe the elves will give her a nice facial and pearl necklace
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leg28

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I haven't played this in a while since it seemed to be meandering and lacking a direction. Based on the comments I'm seeing, looks like my suspicions were right.

This is the result of the developer not planning ahead. The issues the game has (and had) are easy to spot and fix if it had been.

I still see no real path to this games finale. What, exactly, could happen to wrap things up? No idea. It'd be better to call this complete and take time to plan a new game instead of dragging it on. It's been developing since 2017, this is one of the only games left from back then still being made. Especially among VN games.
i agree. but he won't stop (at least until his future grandchildren finish universities). and why should he? people who are pampering his lifestyle with bunch of money, are the ones allowing him to do this to the game. they'll swallow any crap he serves. so why stop? he will never have easier money in his life ever again. as this game's dev he is washed out of any creativity and he can't offer anything new (anymore). we are now watching no story, just random porn scenes for those who prefered wanking on cg charachters rather than on rl pornstars. plus to that, intentionaly or just because of natural laziness he turned this game into giant milking machine (like awam, jessica o'neill...).
and it is not to blame him. when i discovered this site, i found this type of erotica more thrilling than rl porn. with decent to brilliant graphics you were able to read decent and sometimes even quality erotic literature and in many cases fully control actions of your mc, direction of the story and choosing preferable ending(s). but since then (2018) everything went down to toillette. for that we should blame us (subscribers or former ones) and parteon. we turned system of supporting artists to deliver us fun into subscription platform where provider has no obligations or deadlines toward customers. parteon jumped into subscription train because large part of that cake stayed with them. and from time to time devs started to exploit clients. delayed or extremly short updates (or both), posts with lame excuses, meaningless polls, extra renders for holidays to subscribers, each time more prolongated gap between updates... and good old patreon to bill you every 1st of month no matter what. if nuclear war happens rest asure that one of rare survirors will be patreon's billing service.
for some time i'm mentioning that only fair subcription, that will make sure artists are supported and customers receiving progress in story they support, is not per month, but per major update. what means if dev is lazy, has other job or doing it as hobby in spare time he'll get new subscription cashed when delivers something. if you need 6 month to deliver update you'll collect from 10$ tier yours 10$ when update is delivered. not 60$ as now. that will stimulate devs to work harder on game, not on discord or patreon texting excuses.
subscribers ask yourselves how long you'll stay subscribed on netflix, hbo, disney... or any porn streaming services if you instead new content find lame excuses like: i was depressed, dog eat homework... or poll: would you favor that our next pornstar is blond or brunette.
 

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i agree. but he won't stop (at least until his future grandchildren finish universities). and why should he? people who are pampering his lifestyle with bunch of money, are the ones allowing him to do this to the game. they'll swallow any crap he serves. so why stop? he will never have easier money in his life ever again. as this game's dev he is washed out of any creativity and he can't offer anything new (anymore). we are now watching no story, just random porn scenes for those who prefered wanking on cg charachters rather than on rl pornstars. plus to that, intentionaly or just because of natural laziness he turned this game into giant milking machine (like awam, jessica o'neill...).
and it is not to blame him. when i discovered this site, i found this type of erotica more thrilling than rl porn. with decent to brilliant graphics you were able to read decent and sometimes even quality erotic literature and in many cases fully control actions of your mc, direction of the story and choosing preferable ending(s). but since then (2018) everything went down to toillette. for that we should blame us (subscribers or former ones) and parteon. we turned system of supporting artists to deliver us fun into subscription platform where provider has no obligations or deadlines toward customers. parteon jumped into subscription train because large part of that cake stayed with them. and from time to time devs started to exploit clients. delayed or extremly short updates (or both), posts with lame excuses, meaningless polls, extra renders for holidays to subscribers, each time more prolongated gap between updates... and good old patreon to bill you every 1st of month no matter what. if nuclear war happens rest asure that one of rare survirors will be patreon's billing service.
for some time i'm mentioning that only fair subcription, that will make sure artists are supported and customers receiving progress in story they support, is not per month, but per major update. what means if dev is lazy, has other job or doing it as hobby in spare time he'll get new subscription cashed when delivers something. if you need 6 month to deliver update you'll collect from 10$ tier yours 10$ when update is delivered. not 60$ as now. that will stimulate devs to work harder on game, not on discord or patreon texting excuses.
subscribers ask yourselves how long you'll stay subscribed on netflix, hbo, disney... or any porn streaming services if you instead new content find lame excuses like: i was depressed, dog eat homework... or poll: would you favor that our next pornstar is blond or brunette.
Damn if they did billing that way you’d have a lot of broke devs
 

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leg28, сannot agree with you more in general. And as for the game itself - wandered for a while now why people would want to waste their time on this directionless and mindless fuckfest of a game to which it turned after the few initial chapters, let alone to spend money on it...
 
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Damn if they did billing that way you’d have a lot of broke devs
deservingly... one dev i'm supporting delivered one game regulary, started to work on second with regular updates and as time was passing, gapes between updates now extended into more than 6 month and update is still far away. i'll cancel subscription in jan. 2023 since there is no option to charge me per update
 
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Mixed feelings about Ch 15..

- The choice you must make at the beginning between cuck and swing is at least "strange" because MC was in fact never cucked. He gave her permission to fuck whoever she wanted, and he was either there when Anne fucked other men (hidden or not) or Anne told him the whole story in detail later and sent him also pictures, as per their agreement. And Anne never humiliated the MC. That's not cuck, that's HOT WIFE.

As for swinging, if you don't consider 3somes as swinging (coz they are not) there were only 2 real swinging scenes between 2 COUPLES (wife swap) in all the previous 14 chapters: one with the neighbours and one with Mike and his wife at that club and even these 2 had always choices to go into 3somes instead of real swinging.

Of course i have chosen swing, not cuck at the beginning of Ch 15, but i have little hope to see real swinging scenes between couples in the future, since we hardly saw any in the past (although also in the past there was an option for "swinging" which i did chose but.. that led to nothing).

I suppose the swing option will now let me see in the future the real scenes from Anne point of view when she goes fuck around but i hope she will not forget to tell the MC what she did even if i didn't chose the option of hearing the stories. Because that would mean cheating, and that should not be what this game should be about!

- Even more "strange" for me is that blackmail of MC's uncle, threatening Anne to tell MC that she fucks his father Martin. In MY playthrough Anne DID TELL MC that she fucks his father and gave him the stories in detail. Now, since this blackmail became part of the story, I am supposed to go on with the game as if Ann did NOT tell MC about Martin, which means she is CHEATING on him. That is NOT MY GAME! But I am forced to play it that way. I have no option to change that.

Not only in my game but even in the stats of Lord Ashram's mod, Anne is marked as "faithful". How can that be if she didn't tell MC about Martin and continues to cheat with him without telling MC??? Makes no sense to me. The dev probably forgot that we had the option to let Anne tell MC about Martin, which option some of us took. There would have been other ways to get Anne work at that club, such an unreal blackmail was not needed. Telling her that she will earn in a month what she earns now in a year would have been enough..

- And.. how often do they really have to move to another house? Is that the only way to get in touch with Mike? Anyway, the house looks good :)

- Another problem seems to be the renders. In the past we had a few very underexposed graphs to the point that the modder had to fix them and offer them for download as replacement. This time it is from the beginning on almost everything OVEREXPOSED. Not so extrem but still.. not nice..

- On the other (good) side, Ann working in that club, with Dre and Troy in the near, not to mention the uncle, plus guests, is very promising for what we may be allowed to see in the future in that club..

- Also good, in my opinion, is the fact that it seems the dev finally understood that in order to have a real "open relationship", not only Anne must go around fucking half of the city (which she of course should continue to do), but the MC should also have his adventures (more than he used to have till now). That little "orgy" in the bar at the beginning, even if it came out of nowhere and was completely unmotivated, does give us hope for more like this on the side of MC in the future.

And there are a few nice new girls around MC that appeared in this update.. hoping for more, and myself hoping also for some of the old ones that were "not properly finished" by MC in the past (mostly that Elena black girl from the first holiday)

As for MC fucking his sister.. although i would really like to see that, knowing what complications that may bring with Patreon, I'd say.. better not .. The scene with the aunt may be already too much and quite risky..

So yes.. mixed feelings but.. lets hope for the best :)
 
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But with the new release, the game should keep getting better and not getting worse
There's enough of a story from the previous releases. Just give me the fucking porn at this point. It's been fucking brutal with games lately where all they fucking do is talk. They talk more than fucking people do in real life. I don't want to just read a porn game and never get to the good stuff. Too much of that. I don't need to read a novel with this and to be honest as soon as I got home in the game, it felt like the same old game it's always been.
 

Sadowdark

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Mixed feelings about Ch 15..

- The choice you must make at the beginning between cuck and swing is at least "strange" because MC was in fact never cucked. He gave her permission to fuck whoever she wanted, and he was either there when Anne fucked other men (hidden or not) or Anne told him the whole story in detail later and sent him also pictures, as per their agreement. And Anne never humiliated the MC. That's not cuck, that's HOT WIFE.

As for swinging, if you don't consider 3somes as swinging (coz they are not) there were only 2 real swinging scenes between 2 COUPLES (wife swap) in all the previous 14 chapters: one with the neighbours and one with Mike and his wife at that club and even these 2 had always choices to go into 3somes instead of real swinging.

Of course i have chosen swing, not cuck at the beginning of Ch 15, but i have little hope to see real swinging scenes between couples in the future, since we hardly saw any in the past (although also in the past there was an option for "swinging" which i did chose but.. that led to nothing).

I suppose the swing option will now let me see in the future the real scenes from Anne point of view when she goes fuck around but i hope she will not forget to tell the MC what she did even if i didn't chose the option of hearing the stories. Because that would mean cheating, and that should not be what this game should be about!

- Even more "strange" for me is that blackmail of MC's uncle, threatening Anne to tell MC that she fucks his father Martin. In MY playthrough Anne DID TELL MC that she fucks his father and gave him the stories in detail. Now, since this blackmail became part of the story, I am supposed to go on with the game as if Ann did NOT tell MC about Martin, which means she is CHEATING on him. That is NOT MY GAME! But I am forced to play it that way. I have no option to change that.

Not only in my game but even in the stats of Lord Ashram's mod, Anne is marked as "faithful". How can that be if she didn't tell MC about Martin and continues to cheat with him without telling MC??? Makes no sense to me. The dev probably forgot that we had the option to let Anne tell MC about Martin, which option some of us took. There would have been other ways to get Anne work at that club, such an unreal blackmail was not needed. Telling her that she will earn in a month what she earns now in a year would have been enough..

- And.. how often do they really have to move to another house? Is that the only way to get in touch with Mike? Anyway, the house looks good :)

- Another problem seems to be the renders. In the past we had a few very underexposed graphs to the point that the modder had to fix them and offer them for download as replacement. This time it is from the beginning on almost everything OVEREXPOSED. Not so extrem but still.. not nice..

- On the other (good) side, Ann working in that club, with Dre and Troy in the near, not to mention the uncle, plus guests, is very promising for what we may be allowed to see in the future in that club..

- Also good, in my opinion, is the fact that it seems the dev finally understood that in order to have a real "open relationship", not only Anne must go around fucking half of the city (which she of course should continue to do), but the MC should also have his adventures (more than he used to have till now). That little "orgy" in the bar at the beginning, even if it came out of nowhere and was completely unmotivated, does give us hope for more like this on the side of MC in the future.

And there are a few nice new girls around MC that appeared in this update.. hoping for more, and myself hoping also for some of the old ones that were "not properly finished" by MC in the past (mostly that Elena black girl from the first holiday)

As for MC fucking his sister.. although i would really like to see that, knowing what complications that may bring with Patreon, I'd say.. better not .. The scene with the aunt may be already too much and quite risky..

So yes.. mixed feelings but.. lets hope for the best :)

The choices you have to make in the beginning don't mean anything, because then the game will ignore them anyway. Best choice, I don't know what he's there for. Did Anna train the boy for what it is? Would you kiss Anna like she had cum on her face? I have no idea what this is for. We'll see. There were only two swigging events in the old game. Even if you have not chosen the cuckold route, you will play this route. The game will make you do it. Anna is lying and cheating, and her husband is a total idiot. Blackmail is hopeless and what is it for? Why. Tony's uncle wants to steal Anna or what? The statistics are not working properly because in this chapter Ch15 do not tell each other what they did interesting, nor will they possibly ever tell you. I saw that Anna would be like a purebred turbo slut who fucks bar customers for money .. When she gets bored, her uncle will show her fictitious debt again as blackmail. What is missing from this grotesque comedy is that Anna has yet to fuck with animals. Dev promised to fix it with Martin. She will probably add a dialogue where Anna admits to Toni that she is fucking Martin all the time and Tony should leave her behind. Their rule at the beginning Ch1 is the fiction "We always tell each other about everything"
 
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I can't disagree with the comment that "it's just a porn game get over it." However, I always compare these games to martial arts movies (my favorite). You don't necessarily watch a martial arts movie for the story, you watch it for the fight scenes. But having a good story makes the fight scenes more important. This is true with porn games. While we definitely do come for the sex scenes, having a good story behind it makes them better and more real. For instance, if I like a game where the wife is cheating, you can do scene after scene of her having sex with multiple partners. But if I throw in her thoughts about whether she should or should not do it, or if she shows guilt and reluctance over doing those scenes then when she does cheat it makes the scenes hotter. That is the problem with this game. Originally, the story made sense (at least a little, there were obvious contradictions). Let's look at two scenes. Early in the game the MC comes home and sees Ryan and his wife going at it behind his back. You have the option to get mad or just watch. That makes sense.
Now his wife wants to open an only fans page. Okay, that satisifies her need to tease and expose herself. But she also wants to work in a club where she will be paid to have sex with any guy who pays her and now the husband is "okay, great idea." What the hell?
Now as I say in all my posts. This is just my opinion. I'm not devaluing yours, I'm just trying to explain why I spend the time to comment.
 

Sadowdark

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I can't disagree with the comment that "it's just a porn game get over it." However, I always compare these games to martial arts movies (my favorite). You don't necessarily watch a martial arts movie for the story, you watch it for the fight scenes. But having a good story makes the fight scenes more important. This is true with porn games. While we definitely do come for the sex scenes, having a good story behind it makes them better and more real. For instance, if I like a game where the wife is cheating, you can do scene after scene of her having sex with multiple partners. But if I throw in her thoughts about whether she should or should not do it, or if she shows guilt and reluctance over doing those scenes then when she does cheat it makes the scenes hotter. That is the problem with this game. Originally, the story made sense (at least a little, there were obvious contradictions). Let's look at two scenes. Early in the game the MC comes home and sees Ryan and his wife going at it behind his back. You have the option to get mad or just watch. That makes sense.
Now his wife wants to open an only fans page. Okay, that satisifies her need to tease and expose herself. But she also wants to work in a club where she will be paid to have sex with any guy who pays her and now the husband is "okay, great idea." What the hell?
Now as I say in all my posts. This is just my opinion. I'm not devaluing yours, I'm just trying to explain why I spend the time to comment.
Because the husband is a happy idiot who agrees to everything. Anna stupid bimbo and purebred turbo cheating whore
 
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Anne's a hoe.

(tune of that "she's a lady" song)
Whooa, ohh, ohh she's a hoe - oe.
whooa, ohh, ohh she's a hoe - oe.
you won't believe the way she fucks
she only charges 50 bucks
she's a hoe - oe.
 
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As a poster mentioned several pages ago, it does seem odd that the MC's dad, uncle and aunt want the MC cucked. Meanwhile the MC can fuck all the women at work, women at the dinner, his mother-in-law, his wife's best friend, the women at the massage parlor, his ex-girlfriend, Mike's wife and the swinging couple's wife, if you choose. Are Dad and uncle mad that apparently, the MC can get anyone he wants? He just happened to marry a bigger slut than he is.:eek:
 
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I updated the JDMOD to Ch. 15 part 1 and released it in Early Access for my patrons. In 7 days it will become public and available for everyone. You can check it out here:
 

Sadowdark

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As a poster mentioned several pages ago, it does seem odd that the MC's dad, uncle and aunt want the MC cucked. Meanwhile the MC can fuck all the women at work, women at the dinner, his mother-in-law, his wife's best friend, the women at the massage parlor, his ex-girlfriend, Mike's wife and the swinging couple's wife, if you choose. Are Dad and uncle mad that apparently, the MC can get anyone he wants? He just happened to marry a bigger slut than he is.:eek:
Since the idiot's cheerful husband created a monster like Anna, Tony agrees to all of Anna's hopeless ideas. Because this game only forces you to be a cuckold and to cheat on Anna, and the rest is just a small addition.
 
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Since the idiot's cheerful husband created a monster like Anna, Tony agrees to all of Anna's hopeless ideas. Because this game only forces you to be a cuckold and to cheat on Anna, and the rest is just a small addition.
Yeahh..and my fear is that the dev will change now for his final "all chapter 1-15 release" to a whole forced cuckold and swinging story. Thats what i get out of the start of chapter 15.1 and hos patreon post. Means u get ur Dad , doctor and all ugly old bastard scenes told by Anne in the dvening while shd gives u a handjob and falls asleep afterwards.
 
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