VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P3a] [Mircom3D]

[88stanford88]

Both cheating path - should end in divorce regardless, the couple clearly aren't into each other

on your dreams

bad endings depends only from wrong choices and relationship points
here is my final scene of s2 p1b and as you can see I'm in both cheating path


do you think she is lying?

 

[Lagunavii]

Looks like you can avoid everything except for Anne giving Kenny a blowjob or two. I didn't see a way to avoid those. The spa hj/bj is avoidable but Anne gets a bit pissed at you. She soon forgets that though.

Oh god yeah. You can text her in the Spa can't you. I was just thinking about when she comes and has a quiet word with you.

There's actually a lot of stuff you can avoid the. Am I remembering wrong or does the female pizza delivery knock Anne back?

 

[Lagunavii]

on your dreams

bad endings depends only from wrong choices and relationship points
here is my final scene of s2 p1b and as you can see I'm in both cheating path
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do you think she is lying?

Yes in my dreams. Listen I play the Anne unfaithful path, I also play the Anne faithful path, I also play the Swingers path. I don't want all roads to leed to Rome so to speak. I want different endings for different paths. Or more to the point I want actions to have consequences, I want bad endings. It's a fine stance to have and although you don't agree with me it doesn't make either of us wrong.

No, I don't think she's lying, but at the same time your relationship score is high.

I've discussed this with you many times and you still don't get it.

For me there should be no reason for Anne to be in the unfaithful path with a high relationship score. It makes absolutely no sense to me. The only reason Anne should be on that path is if you've treated her like shit. Otherwise you're in a loving relationship, experimenting with this new lifestyle. It makes absolute no sense to me why a woman so in love with her husband, would just simply up and get with the one person he said no too. Honestly I can't wrap my head around it.

 

[TonyMurray]

Oh god yeah. You can text her in the Spa can't you. I was just thinking about when she comes and has a quiet word with you.

There's actually a lot of stuff you can avoid the. Am I remembering wrong or does the female pizza delivery knock Anne back?

You avoid the stuff in the spa when she comes over to you to check if everything's going okay. It's either you leave there, or Anne continues but it leads to sex from that one choice. The text message doesn't come into it.

I use the female pizza delivery option as a quick way of having nothing happen for these tests, but I also go for it in my actual saves to see if it might help nudge things along in terms of some girl-girl action. Anne was maybe more nervous about it, but she asks if she should try something and the girl says she would, but doesn't have time. It's another one that I kept hoping would come up again, but doesn't.

 

[Lagunavii]

You avoid the stuff in the spa when she comes over to you to check if everything's going okay. It's either you leave there, or Anne continues but it leads to sex from that one choice. The text message doesn't come into it.

Yes I knew you put a stop to it I just couldn't remember when or what had happened before hand. I was remembering she'd still got a little handsy under the water before the quiet word.

I'm gonna investigate myself as I'm curious how far you can push it.

 

[Lagunavii]

You avoid the stuff in the spa when she comes over to you to check if everything's going okay. It's either you leave there, or Anne continues but it leads to sex from that one choice. The text message doesn't come into it.

I use the female pizza delivery option as a quick way of having nothing happen for these tests, but I also go for it in my actual saves to see if it might help nudge things along in terms of some girl-girl action. Anne was maybe more nervous about it, but she asks if she should try something and the girl says she would, but doesn't have time. It's another one that I kept hoping would come up again, but doesn't.

Okay I just had a speed run - I hit a problem. (must have missed something important)
While I was unable to stop any of the Hands on experience Anne has, (the Pizza Guy, Kenny, the guys in the spa) I kept saying no to her taking it further... this ultimately cost me a few relationship points and pushed her into the Martin path automatically.

It is going to have to be a very precise playthrough to get to the Cuckqueen path without having Anne sleep with someone else.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

It is going to have to be a very precise playthrough to get to the Cuckqueen path without having Anne sleep with someone else.

If you or TonyMurray manage to find one, do let me know.

 

[TonyMurray]

Okay I just had a speed run - I hit a problem. (must have missed something important)
While I was unable to stop any of the Hands on experience Anne has, (the Pizza Guy, Kenny, the guys in the spa) I kept saying no to her taking it further... this ultimately cost me a few relationship points and pushed her into the Martin path automatically.

It is going to have to be a very precise playthrough to get to the Cuckqueen path without having Anne sleep with someone else.

If you or TonyMurray manage to find one, do let me know.

Go to the first massage, get to the point where Fernanda offers you a happy ending, and reject it. Gains you a valuable 10 relationship points that should see you good for what's to come. I got to the cuckquean path without Martin this way in my speedruns.

 

[Lagunavii]

Go to the first massage, get to the point where Fernanda offers you a happy ending, and reject it. Gains you a valuable 10 relationship points that should see you good for what's to come. I got to the cuckquean path without Martin this way in my speedruns.

Wow, yes, that is the key.... without this the stopping anne having adventures just puts you straight onto the Martin path.

Right this is quite the specific path Radnos Salazar. You need to turn down a massage, turn down every body else. Not go to cinemas or parties. make sure youre going to the gym so you meet Mia. ultimately it is possible to get there without Anne being dicked by anyone else. But people do get a bit handsy with here.

There is a scene in the spa (though its quite light. quick finger)4
The scenes with her boss can not be ignored and this ranges from HJ/FIngering all the way to BJ
there is a scene with a doctor that cant be skipped either...

So unfortuntely you will see people doing things with Anne.

Going forward even past the point of the path begining you still get the option to deny Anne. So providing you dont mind the above, you should be okay.

Theres just no actual cuck queen content yet. so its a bit of hoop jumping for nothing

 

[Radnos Salazar]

There is a scene in the spa (though its quite light. quick finger)4
The scenes with her boss can not be ignored and this ranges from HJ/FIngering all the way to BJ
there is a scene with a doctor that cant be skipped either...

We have control over these scenes right? We have a say on how far anne goes? Like once she gives a handjob, we can say that's enough right?

 

[Lagunavii]

We get control over the spa scene and doc you can stop it before it goes too far

Anne's boss. Nope no control. Just happens

 

[TonyMurray]

We have control over these scenes right? We have a say on how far anne goes? Like once she gives a handjob, we can say that's enough right?

We get control over the spa scene and doc you can stop it before it goes too far

Anne's boss. Nope no control. Just happens

Yeah, you can stop her fucking the boss (Kenny) - they both say they want to do it when the second bj happens, but when he asks her to go ahead then, she still tells him no.

The spa scene you can stop before anything more than touching happens, if you don't stop it, you get hj/bj and then sex all from that one choice (in the mod it does warn "leads to sex"). The doc gives an examination which goes too far and you have the option to tell him to continue or say nothing, the latter of which leads to him stopping of his own accord. I don't think there were any hjs that you get without approving them first, except for Kenny.

If you're looking to avoid hj/bj as well, a good one to look out for is the boss's party, where Abby meets you at the door. If you go to that, you get railroaded into a scene with no further choices provided first, so choose not to go.

 

[Lagunavii]

Yeah, you can stop her fucking the boss (Kenny) - they both say they want to do it when the second bj happens, but when he asks her to go ahead then, she still tells him no.

The spa scene you can stop before anything more than touching happens, if you don't stop it, you get hj/bj and then sex all from that one choice (in the mod it does warn "leads to sex"). The doc gives an examination which goes too far and you have the option to tell him to continue or say nothing, the latter of which leads to him stopping of his own accord. I don't think there were any hjs that you get without approving them first, except for Kenny.

If you're looking to avoid hj/bj as well, a good one to look out for is the boss's party, where Abby meets you at the door. If you go to that, you get railroaded into a scene with no further choices provided first, so choose not to go.

You need to avoid the cinema too. Anne will give the lad sat next to him a handjob before asking if she can fuck him

 

[duckydoodoo]

Doh! I never bothered to make a S1 cuckqueen save since there wasnt any content. But if there ever is content ill have to go back to S1. May as well do that now, between updates just so its ready and saved in S2.

If it weren't for all the convo in the thread about it, I would have forgotten there is supposed to be a route one day. Thanks!

 

[Lagunavii]

Doh! I never bothered to make a S1 cuckqueen save since there wasnt any content. But if there ever is content ill have to go back to S1. May as well do that now, between updates just so its ready and saved in S2.

If it weren't for all the convo in the thread about it, I would have forgotten there is supposed to be a route one day. Thanks!

Haha it was quite the experiment big props to TonyMurray for at least finding that for that specific path it was possible.

The problem is you have to remember the path is not fully explored so while the request is possible now, it may not be in future

As an extreme example (that will likely never happen) if the cuckqueen path is ever reliant on the massage you won't be able to do it as you simply won't have the points to stay off the Martin path

Unlikely, I know. But I guess we shall see

 

[reidanota]

I play the Anne unfaithful path, I also play the Anne faithful path, I also play the Swingers path. I don't want all roads to leed to Rome so to speak. I want different endings for different paths. Or more to the point I want actions to have consequences, I want bad endings. It's a fine stance to have and although you don't agree with me it doesn't make either of us wrong.

Completely understand where you're coming from, but I also find it frustrating that 99% of NTR games make actual NTR happen as a bad ending, dark route, etc... In other words, as a BAD consequence for choices that are, according to common wisdom, bad choices. Truly, almost all games go that way... It's commonplace.

Bearing in mind that I don't intend to pass judgement on this game, for the sake of discussion I'd say that as long as it's not ONE PATH = ONE ENDING, I wouldn't mind that one of the consequences of the unfaithful path be a bad ending, or multiple bad endings, with separation being one of them, the MC ending like a broken cuck being another, etc. But I would disagree that such endings have to stem NECESSARILY from unfaithfulness in a relationship. I don't believe that "crime equals punishment" is a good enough motive to invest time writing a story around.

I'm really looking forward to finding a game that deals with this in a more complex way. A game where characters don't readily accept all broken boundaries, as if they were made of marble rather than flesh and bone (and ego) - which is sometimes what sharing/swinging games seem like; where they get really pissed off, fuss about it, take action on it, but also where they can come to an understanding, despite the storm, restore their broken trust and rekindle their love, realising, perhaps to their surprise, that what they feel about each other matters more even than your shattered imaged of their integrity and trustworthiness. And, perhaps, that fixing things is a project and takes some effort, rather than just making another promise.

As long as there are valid actions/options the MC can use to steer through the turmoil, I can see different endings coexisting without losing the idea that actions have consequences.

What I mean, in short, is that I don't like conceptual moral rules, but that doesn't mean I rule out morality altogether. If the story is built in such a way that you have to be an egotistical maniac to make your wife cheat on you, then by all means, let there be pain and gnashing of teeth for you. But if it's possible to get there while the MC is still invested in her and in their relationship - because of impulse, or miscommunication, or even a bout of egoism in what could mostly be considered a mutually respecting relationship - I'd love to see how they'd fuss and fight, and then end up looking again at each other and hoe far they've come, and realising how everything else is relative.

I'm probably being idealistic. From what I gather, some people here actually lived relationships with some elements as what we're discussing... I haven't. Probably 90% of human beings would react in one way or another, and I'm likely one of them. I have no idea if I could in real life deal with betrayal in any other way, but isn't that part of what games/stories are for, to read about and think about what you're not experiencing in your day-to-day life?

 

[Lagunavii]

Completely understand where you're coming from, but I also find it frustrating that 99% of NTR games make actual NTR happen as a bad ending, dark route, etc... In other words, as a BAD consequence for choices that are, according to common wisdom, bad choices. Truly, almost all games go that way... It's commonplace.

Bearing in mind that I don't intend to pass judgement on this game, for the sake of discussion I'd say that as long as it's not ONE PATH = ONE ENDING, I wouldn't mind that one of the consequences of the unfaithful path be a bad ending, or multiple bad endings, with separation being one of them, the MC ending like a broken cuck being another, etc. But I would disagree that such endings have to stem NECESSARILY from unfaithfulness in a relationship. I don't believe that "crime equals punishment" is a good enough motive to invest time writing a story around.

I'm really looking forward to finding a game that deals with this in a more complex way. A game where characters don't readily accept all broken boundaries, as if they were made of marble rather than flesh and bone (and ego) - which is sometimes what sharing/swinging games seem like; where they get really pissed off, fuss about it, take action on it, but also where they can come to an understanding, despite the storm, restore their broken trust and rekindle their love, realising, perhaps to their surprise, that what they feel about each other matters more even than your shattered imaged of their integrity and trustworthiness. And, perhaps, that fixing things is a project and takes some effort, rather than just making another promise.

As long as there are valid actions/options the MC can use to steer through the turmoil, I can see different endings coexisting without losing the idea that actions have consequences.

What I mean, in short, is that I don't like conceptual moral rules, but that doesn't mean I rule out morality altogether. If the story is built in such a way that you have to be an egotistical maniac to make your wife cheat on you, then by all means, let there be pain and gnashing of teeth for you. But if it's possible to get there while the MC is still invested in her and in their relationship - because of impulse, or miscommunication, or even a bout of egoism in what could mostly be considered a mutually respecting relationship - I'd love to see how they'd fuss and fight, and then end up looking again at each other and hoe far they've come, and realising how everything else is relative.

I'm probably being idealistic. From what I gather, some people here actually lived relationships with some elements as what we're discussing... I haven't. Probably 90% of human beings would react in one way or another, and I'm likely one of them. I have no idea if I could in real life deal with betrayal in any other way, but isn't that part of what games/stories are for, to read about and think about what you're not experiencing in your day-to-day life?

I get this, I get all this. I've honestly no problem that if, despite the cheating, the couple get back together. Just as long as it makes sense to the over all story.

Now my main issue with specifically the Anne cheating path is the fact you get the choice to put her in it. So she's therefore cheating on Tony with no narrative reason. I mean I know it's a porn game but still...

Interestingly, today in our little "cuck Queen no sharing" route experiment I discovered that if you deny Anne every opportunity to sleep with a man despite working her up. You have the number of points needed to get on path automatically. I don't think that is a coincidence. Treat Anne shit, she'll go elsewhere.

Similarly the very first opportunity Tony gets to cheat on Anne, if he declines he gets +10 points. I don't think this is a coincidence the massive point gain here this tells me Tony cheating path is not the intended route.

While yes it's naff that there are some endings of NTR games end with the couples separated I don't see any problem here. Based on the points above and the actual goal stated in the plot that is "reach your final goal of sharing her" I don't think there is any issue with not getting the "happy" ending by playing against the grain so to speak.

 

[Adviar5050]

I really enjoy the game and since I enjoy it I always look for ways to improve it. These are not criticisms they are just ways that I think the game could be even better. The first thing is Martin. I think the way it should have been written is Annie acts towards him the same way she does if you pick the "no martin" path. She gets angry when he tries stuff with her and at no time does she give in. But then he starts to wear her down and at first she does a little bit of playing with him but then we see her feeling guilty about it since Tony told her he was a no go. You can then add more scenes that either proceed the relationship with Martin or cut it off (these could be choices by the player). I think a slow burn with a slow corruption of Annie with Martin would have been better than just an "either or" from the start. Like I said it's not a criticism it's just what I think would have made a more interesting story. There isn't another character in the game that would have that slow burn which would have made Martin a more interesting character. Anyway, that's just my thoughts, doesn't make them right, doesn't make them wrong, just makes them mine.

 

[Tinman021]

Why when I tried to install android P1a, it said app not installed as package appears to be invalid?

Also the prompt mentioned update installation, not install new app for the S2.

 

[TonyMurray]

You need to avoid the cinema too. Anne will give the lad sat next to him a handjob before asking if she can fuck him

Yeah, I was doing that for speed anyway, but if I remember rightly it's just a hj there too unless you give the go ahead for Anne to fuck him. Not sure if there's any repercussions for denying her that, but based on other examples, I would suggest not.

Now my main issue with specifically the Anne cheating path is the fact you get the choice to put her in it. So she's therefore cheating on Tony with no narrative reason. I mean I know it's a porn game but still...

Yeah, literally just to see the route/scenes I guess. It gives a handy "save here for branching" point.

Interestingly, today in our little "cuck Queen no sharing" route experiment I discovered that if you deny Anne every opportunity to sleep with a man despite working her up. You have the number of points needed to get on path automatically. I don't think that is a coincidence. Treat Anne shit, she'll go elsewhere.

I was surprised though about the points. I think it was mentioned earlier about dropping points when you deny Anne, but I only found one example (when you decide not to invite Cornell back to your room while on holiday). Even pulling Anne out of the hot tub with the guys doesn't result in any dropped points.

Unless I missed any (and I was checking), there are three pick up points available if you avoid the massage. Denying Cornell is -1, so that makes a likely 12 relationship points by the time you get to Martin on the beach. I believe the choice activates at 14 points, so I guess it's well worked.

I would have expected a bit more movement though, to be honest. Some of the plus points you get are for not a lot, and it's stuff you do at other times too, so I would expect them in both cases or neither. Same with the minus points. I think relationship points in total are underused in this game. I suppose it might get tricky trying to balance it to choose the right number for the Martin choice to activate, but it would definitely be workable.