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The game is likely benefiting from a massive improvement in narrative coherency, and certainly an improvement in the somewhat dodgy early static renders (which I truly didn't expect to be redone, but am very happy to receive because late-stage Anne is gorgeous), with this revamp. That Mircom3D is going ahead with the revamp in the first place demonstrates a serious commitment to improving what was already an interesting game, and that should be rewarded, not criticized.
I'd also like to see Chapter 11, but if 11 is like 10 in which almost no pre-10 choices actually matter because the variables are a mess and the paths are totally convoluted, I'd much, much rather see the game rewritten and re-coded from scratch...so that when we get to (for example) Martin, all the MC's choices and all Anne's choices both derive from logical precedents and produce logical outcomes.
Meanwhile, there are a ton of games producing fappable scenes while this one reaches for something better.
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Revamp does look good. Good to see Nicole fixed (she was completely different on the couch in the old version vs the rest of the renders). I mainly hope that Mircom can catch back up to the story relatively quickly with his break. While it will be nice to get some of the paths straightened out and more clear, and maybe improve some of the early renders, I don't want to wait for 10 more updates (that is to say each update being one revamped chapter) to continue on with the story 
I feel like maybe only the first few chapters need touching up along with getting the porn "choice" untangled in chapter 6 or whenever it was. With the later renders having much improved over the early days, it's just a matter of fixing some of the story stuff and maybe adding new renders where necessary to improve those paths.
I feel like maybe only the first few chapters need touching up along with getting the porn "choice" untangled in chapter 6 or whenever it was. With the later renders having much improved over the early days, it's just a matter of fixing some of the story stuff and maybe adding new renders where necessary to improve those paths.
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I would assume the number of re-renders would gradually decline as Mircom3D's work grew more proficient and Anne started to look like who she is now.
I'm still of the opinion that writing and recoding rather than rendering is the key to fixing (rather than completely reworking) the game, but based on Chapter 1 Mircom3D has a more ambitious plan, and I look forward to what he's doing.
I'm still of the opinion that writing and recoding rather than rendering is the key to fixing (rather than completely reworking) the game, but based on Chapter 1 Mircom3D has a more ambitious plan, and I look forward to what he's doing.
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I agree 100%. That's my hope and my preference as well. I mean I would even just overlook the early renders anyway, but I get the motivation for doing so. So I am definitely hoping he focuses on getting the story/choices fixed, add new renders if necessary to fill in any gaps created by the changes, and as a last priority do the re-renders of early content if they're really bothering him. The later renders are just fine.
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I hoped for a few new animations to replace the epileptic head animations with her (cough) "step-brother" and a few others, but I'm not entirely convinced; the new ones are much better but the looping still hasn't been perfected. Still, like you I don't really care about this. The first chapter had problems, and (I'll get into this later) still does have logical problems, but the actual issues in the game come many chapters later.
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So: the first choices in the game still assume you've signed up for the "challenges" even if you haven't. If you push Anne at the first set of choices it's a game over, but if you ask her about her day and go to dinner it's clear that, a few choices later, you signed up whether or not you actually did. You get an email, and so forth. If you skip the mall you're still pushed towards the next escalation. This needs to be fixed and rigoursly tested, and frankly in Chapter 1 any choice to not encourage Anne to spread her wings — because that's what the game is *about* — should result in a game over. Not in Chapter 3 or later, but this early it's an entirely acceptable path.
Everything that escalates Anne's exhibition/hotwifing path should be derived from active choices. The MC can reject the emails, go home as quickly as possible from the mall, ignore Nicole, and Anne still ends up masturbating on Kenny's security cam. Again, this should've been a game over before it got to that stage, unless there's a pure cuckold route developing. (Note, please, that I haven't looked at the scripts.)
Everything that escalates Anne's exhibition/hotwifing path should be derived from active choices. The MC can reject the emails, go home as quickly as possible from the mall, ignore Nicole, and Anne still ends up masturbating on Kenny's security cam. Again, this should've been a game over before it got to that stage, unless there's a pure cuckold route developing. (Note, please, that I haven't looked at the scripts.)
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This was always kind of my hope or what I thought might be happening with the numerous choices of either "I'm too tired" or going right to bed. There are quite a few times in the old stuff and in the revamp where there are options to pass on sex or whatever. My hope has always been that ignoring Anne would lead to cheating/cuckold on her own, though there's never been any evidence of that so far. Seems somewhat pointless to give the choice if it's meaningless, better to replace it with a "skip sex scene" button since that's all it amounts to otherwise.
I haven't really looked at the scripts, but checking the variable viewer, there doesn't seem to be anything directly related to slacking off in the pleasing Anne department. Off course that could be just reflected by a certain stat not being as high as it should be, as opposed to a separate "ignored" or "frustration" variable.
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I agree that ignoring Anne should lead to sexual frustration/acting out.
Treating the game not as it's coded but as a player might view it...
The original game, especially as it progresses, provides innumerable opportunities for the MC to "go home for lunch" (usually rather than cheat on Anne with someone) to encounter...nothing. It's clear that this is cuckold-indicative, because the game either comments on the absence of Anne or scans the rooms to overtly demonstrate that there's no one home, but there's never an outcome and the game doesn't code for it, other than to avoid coding for the MC's side pieces.
The long-ago post where I pseudo-coded and described how ths might be worked into hotwife, open relationship, swinging, cuckolding, cheating, and even NTR paths described how scenes like these could be used. But it's super difficult and requires a very, very detailed rethink of the game, though I still don't believe it requires re-rendering. Maybe a few additional scenes. Still, it's not the revamp and should, at this point, be ignored.
I wrote that post long after Mircom3D starting rewriting, and I think the revamp will be a lot simpler than what I suggested. Which is perfectly fine. I just hope for a more sensible game, and the dev seems to want that as well.
Treating the game not as it's coded but as a player might view it...
The original game, especially as it progresses, provides innumerable opportunities for the MC to "go home for lunch" (usually rather than cheat on Anne with someone) to encounter...nothing. It's clear that this is cuckold-indicative, because the game either comments on the absence of Anne or scans the rooms to overtly demonstrate that there's no one home, but there's never an outcome and the game doesn't code for it, other than to avoid coding for the MC's side pieces.
The long-ago post where I pseudo-coded and described how ths might be worked into hotwife, open relationship, swinging, cuckolding, cheating, and even NTR paths described how scenes like these could be used. But it's super difficult and requires a very, very detailed rethink of the game, though I still don't believe it requires re-rendering. Maybe a few additional scenes. Still, it's not the revamp and should, at this point, be ignored.
I wrote that post long after Mircom3D starting rewriting, and I think the revamp will be a lot simpler than what I suggested. Which is perfectly fine. I just hope for a more sensible game, and the dev seems to want that as well.
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The first chapter is good, but Microm3D said about he was implementing a UI to give you info about the path you're choosing, maybe in the future chapters? The funny part in this chapter is the MC tells Anne what happened at the massage event and she doesn't believe him(MC hide this information at the older version). I hope the Dev works more in the relationship part of the couple(examples: what Anne thinks about the MC in the lasts chapters and after the sex with various men, if she loves him yet or her affection decreased)
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The "I don't believe you" response to the massage event is identical to the orginal game. I'm not going to claim the text hasn't changed because I haven't compared, but I don't think it has. Much, at least.
The revamp is a recoding and re-rendering of the game, ostensibly to make the paths that didn't actually "work" function correctly. You won't see the result of this reworking for a while, save for the visuals.
The revamp is a recoding and re-rendering of the game, ostensibly to make the paths that didn't actually "work" function correctly. You won't see the result of this reworking for a while, save for the visuals.
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Revamp means complete rework: Fixing graphics, Fixing code to make the paths more coherent and fixing story to make the narrative more coherent too.
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I checked again and you're right just the render changed, I just forgot before, thanks. I liked the new renders
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No further progression beyond that point after the Ryan stuff.
On another note after the discussion above. I went and looked through the script itself. At least at this point there isn't any stat tracking at all pretty much. So turning Anne down for sex, or skipping stuff really seems to have no effect whatsoever unfortunately. It's pretty much boolean values, like if you're going down the Nicole route, or if you said yes to Ryan coming to visit. The only thing that does seem to track like a counter a bit is the massage and if you accept the handjob.
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So, I've just went through a revamped chapter 1, here's some of my thoughts
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- Mar 23, 2017
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The Dev used g8f as anne's model in revamped.The problem with the eyes is that the model is wrong. I still think Anne of g3f looks better.
I read in a comment that you should specify anne's thoughts for example after fucking with several men and if she still loves her husband or that love has diminished. In what world is a woman who sleeps with several men at the same time, and with many more one by one, is in love with her partner? That this relationship continues is the strangest part of this story unless she hates him and wants to humiliate him for some reason
I still think that I would like the story more if the protagonist were Anne. The current MC is bland and hardly adds anything .