Adviar5050

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First of all anybody who uses "monkeyshines" in a post is all right by me. Second we are all excited to see the new release (me included) but when you think about it we are getting four days of activity which, if you are like me, will take about 2 hours to complete with all the different options. Then we will wait 3 more months for the next update. I wish I had the strength to stay away from this game for a full year to get some serious playing done.. But we all know that's not going to happen. So to pass the time lets make a bet on the release date. The winner wins nothing but complete respect from all the other players. Since I started the game I'm going to pick first and say April 14
 

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First of all anybody who uses "monkeyshines" in a post is all right by me. Second we are all excited to see the new release (me included) but when you think about it we are getting four days of activity which, if you are like me, will take about 2 hours to complete with all the different options. Then we will wait 3 more months for the next update. I wish I had the strength to stay away from this game for a full year to get some serious playing done.. But we all know that's not going to happen. So to pass the time lets make a bet on the release date. The winner wins nothing but complete respect from all the other players. Since I started the game I'm going to pick first and say April 14
I say April 22, we will get it here on April 29
 

Adviar5050

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I agree. The developer should post more. When you stay silent it makes people think you are not working on it. Which I'm sure he is
 
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I agree. The developer should post more. When you stay silent it makes people think you are not working on it. Which I'm sure he is
I keep refreshing and cancelling my subscription because of this. I want to support Mircom but I dont want to be taken for a fool too.
 

Adviar5050

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Well I guess it could be worse. You could support the developer of Jessica O'Neill Hard News. This developer is so much better than him. I supported him for awhile but after 4 months of no updates no communication I dropped him.
 

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What Mircom needs to do in order to stop all this crying about Anne is to make it so that she never fucks ANYONE WHATSOEVER throughout the whole game and change the name from TAC to THE NUN.
Maybe then these guys will be happy?
Somehow I doubt it.
We only ask to have the choice that is all. yes i want to fuck him no i do not want to fuck him it is so easy.....
 
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We only ask to have the choice that is all. yes i want to fuck him no i do not want to fuck him it is so easy.....
It's not easy at all. Every single choice means more and more work for the dev.
Maybe you should DM him and ask him yourself?
 

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It seems from the comments that folks would be happier if this was more of a multiple protagonist game. But there is also a very vocal faction that would bristle at playing as Anne and making decisions as her. So it is a case of choosing your poison. These are the lessons I'm trying to learn from this forum I make my own game.
 

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It seems from the comments that folks would be happier if this was more of a multiple protagonist game. But there is also a very vocal faction that would bristle at playing as Anne and making decisions as her. So it is a case of choosing your poison. These are the lessons I'm trying to learn from this forum I make my own game.
Same. But a note of caution, many people on this forum are not typical readers. Their kinks and play type tend to be much more extreme and skewed than the average user, or even the people who pay for Patreon or Steam services. That applies even more so to the majority of commenters. It is true that less than 10% of consumers are moved to comment/critique/complain.
 
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But there is also a very vocal faction that would bristle at playing as Anne and making decisions as her.
Think about the choices you've been making all the way through this game. Think hard about them and who's enacting them.

Aren't you playing an Anne-POV game?

Yes, it's technically multiple-POV because the husband's banging anyone with an available hole (if you make those choices), but about 99.9% of Anne's choices are presented as hers, not her husband's. That's an Anne-POV game.
 
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Think about the choices you've been making all the way through this game. Think hard about them and who's enacting them.

Aren't you playing an Anne-POV game?

Yes, it's technically multiple-POV because the husband's banging anyone with an available hole (if you make those choices), but about 99.9% of Anne's choices are presented as hers, not her husband's. That's an Anne-POV game.
Huh? Watsit? In an Anne POV game it shouldn't be Anne or her husband making her decisions, but the player. All the partner's choices should be presented as their own, even if they ask permission or seek input from the other partner. So that number shouldn't be 99% but 100% unless I missed a rape scene somewhere.

I'm not just being an ass. Let's talk about my game in development. X and Y both make their own decisions which are decisions made directly by the player. Each has a fixed bank of relationship points and when they spend them on a potential partner they are gone forever. If they don't spend them on their mutual relationship, it suffers. In the game, neither of them can have sex with anyone (including each other) without the player's affirmative consent and a sufficient number of relationship points. This is my design for my multiple protagonists and multiple POV game. And it is super hard to do which is why I haven't unveiled it yet. It is going to take a lot of work.

Anyway back to this one. Anne's decisions are her own, clearly, but in essence, the decisions of her husband (the player) give her a framework in which she makes them. Only the husband makes decisions that affect relationship points, cuck status, swinger status, and so forth. It is these numbers that determine whether Anne will lie about who she is sleeping with, proudly brag about it, rub his nose in it, whatever. Although she is the star of the show, even more than a co-lead, she isn't positioned as the POV character because in very few instances does the player directly make a decision for her.

Now there is some wiggle room here. At the very least the few times that the player has control of Anne are pivotal decisions. Let's look at a similar game in development called Watching My Wife. I find it fascinating. The structure of that game is telling the story on alternating days, once from the husband's point of view, where all decisions are made, and the same day from the wife's point of view where we hear her thoughts and see what decisions she makes when the husband is not around. But the player doesn't play as her per se, just watch in a voyeuristic fashion as her side of the story unfolds like a kinetic novel. So is this a multiple protagonist game? In structure, yes, but in terms of player agency, the decisions you make are even more disconnected from what she does than is the case in this game. So TAC exists in between the continuum of my game (make all decisions for a couple) and Watching my Wife (make only decisions as the husband and reap the consequences).

So what do you think? This is a more interesting discussion than most of the ones on the thread currently.
 

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I have been one of the people who have advocated for more of Annie's POV. However I don't want to play completely as Annie I just want some hints of what she is thinking (some). For instance when she is screwing troy on the cruise he asks her are you doing this more for you or because that is what your husband wants. I would have liked to know what was going on in her head or give the player the option to choose how she feels about it. Maybe that's why the developer wrote it this way, to add the mystery I don't know. What is interesting is if you choose the walker option you do get to see a little more into Annie's thinking. I just wonder if we will see more of it.
 
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Huh? Watsit? In an Anne POV game it shouldn't be Anne or her husband making her decisions, but the player. All the partner's choices should be presented as their own, even if they ask permission or seek input from the other partner.
I'm just responding to your contention that people would bristle at playing as Anne. Anyone playing this game is already playing as Anne a great deal of the time. If there's been pushback, it's been extremely quiet.

So that number shouldn't be 99% but 100% unless I missed a rape scene somewhere.
Most of their early "adventurous" escapades are driven by choices made by the husband. The first few encounters in Punta Cana are initiated by him. On the last day of that vacation, however, Anne makes her own choices. In the threesome with Dre, the husband chooses whether or not to join and that's the only choice available in the scene. On the other hand, when Anne's on the beach with Marcus, Martin, the guy with whom she did anal, etc., it's her making those choices. Anne chooses to have sex with Mike behind the restrooms without any input from the husband. Anne's spa threesome and hot tub anal scenes have nothing to do with the husband. Nor does letting her doctor sodomize her. I could go on, but you get the point. The deeper into this the couple gets, the more frequent it is that Anne's making her own decisions when it comes to sex, and without going back through the game and making a tally, I strongly believe that, by this point, the vast majority of Anne's liaisons come from decisions made by her. Which, as I said, means that anyone clicking on those choices is already playing as Anne more often than not.

Your point about, well, points is only partially true. Points control Anne's behavior in the code, but on the screen it's Anne making a lot of the decisions that result.

TAC is somewhat unusual in that most female-POV games in which the woman has multiple infidelitous partners are Bambi in Lechertown corruption/victimization games, which is one of the two major reasons dudes complain about having to play the female POV. (The other is that they want to immerse as the person doing the fucking rather than the person being fucked, which is obviously impossible in a female-POV game, and what makes the lack of complaint here so unusual.) Corruption is a constant presence throughout TAC, and at the very beginning the source of the corruption is the husband, but it doesn't take very long for the corruption to be something Anne not only willingly embraces, but controls. In the Lechertown genre, Bambi rarely has control over anything, especially sex. In TAC, Anne has a tremendous amount of control, and there's a point in the story in which the husband is confronted by the fact that he no longer has any, save for his own extramarital adventures.
 
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