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glad I wasn't wrong in remembering this I was just to lazy to look it up so thanks for that.
I did encounter an ending in TAC where Tony and Anne end it half way through the game. It goes to a cut scene a few years later and there is Anne with her new man, Martin of course. I can't remember how I even got the scene as it was one of my first playthroughs. I never gave it a second thought at the time.
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You can get 3 different out comes for that one depending on if she cheating etc I had one for it was Martin, Dre and a rando I got bored and tried them all out lol. To get it you need Anne to be upset to find you in bed with Nichole ( low relationship score) she kicks you out of the house for the night and when we return and have a talk you can dump her.
It's when she finds you in bed with Nicole and she's angry about it, then in the conversation you have and you disagree with Anne, she gets angry and leaves where a list appears with the women you can leave with, clearly you're going to choose Kelsie, right?
Well yeah obviously if you play it that way, you can avoid a lot of the cheating. Personally, I think it should be possible to avoid all the cheating if you choose, and hopefully that option will be available in the reboot. Like most people I tend to play most of the content in the game though, so I was talking to the people who play the cheating scenes ( whether they like them or not), rather than those who seek to avoid them.
In the original version, Anne cheats on several occasions, and it happens whatever choices you make for the MC. When you see her cheating, you're not viewing events as the MC, but from the perspective of Anne herself. And you don't really know why Anne has decided to cheat on Tony, and this is particularly unsettling for the player, because you know that Anne doesn't really need to cheat to have sex with any of these guys. So why is she doing it? If you've bought into the hotwife scenario and chosen for Anne not to cheat with Martin. Why is she breaking her word to Tony?
Perhaps, it's to demonstrate that this is dangerous behaviour. And if you open up your marriage, there are risks in play that you maybe never envisaged, when you were just fantasising about it. By persuading his wife to start fucking around, something she might never have done herself, Tony is opening up a can of worms, with unpredictable consequences for his relationship. Anne has suddenly been opened up to the possibility of a world of pleasure, that she never knew existed, and one which she surprisingly fits like a glove. And the more Tony encourages her to indulge in it, the harder it becomes to resist having fun, even when that fun means crossing a red line. In other words, beware of what you wish for.
Up until that point, Anne has been doing all of this to please Tony. Yeah, she's gotten pleasure out of it, and the amount of pleasure has incrementally increased. But her real motivation has been to satisfy her partner's fantasy to watch her having sex with other men. But all the time she's been getting more and more excited by it all, and has started to love it more and more, to satisfy her own personal desires. So the cheating is just a natural extension of this. Her desire to do something entirely for herself, without feeling the need to please her partner. Because his fantasy, has become her reality. Tony has succeeded way beyond what he thought possible, and Anne has literally become the 'whore' he dreamed about, but perhaps never really wanted her to become? She is now this whole other person, and the rest of the game, is about him adapting or falling before this new reality.
As far as the Emma scene is concerned. Yeah, the first time I played the game, I missed that as well. I chose for the MC to have fun with Anne's mother, which means you miss out on him dating Emma. On a later date Emma reveals the truth, in a failed attempt to get back with him, because she now regrets sleeping with his father herself. Even if Emma tells him though, you still have to have Anne own up to it, when Tony confronts her. Because there's also a choice where she denies everything, and the MC is left wondering whether Emma made the whole thing up. On that route Anne continues cheating with Martin, and even suggests to Martin that she has the MC wrapped around her little finger. I chose not pursue that route, because that version of Anne seemed a bit too viscious for me. Whilst having her err for a while, but then confess and make up with Tony was far more satisfying. And it leads to probably the best scene of lovemaking between just the two of them.
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Do you remember which Day it occurs? Only one I can think of is the v11 script. But that one she just storms off and it picks up with the car salesman scene. Maybe script got changed with the walkthrough mod I used? Only one with choices I found is after Ryan and Anne.
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One thing TAC completely fails to do after a certain point is explain why Anne is acting the way she is. Her early reluctance is well-described (by her), but once she's fully committed to extramarital adventures she goes through emotional stages that are opaque to the player. (Also largely opaque to Tony, but he's an oblivious idiot so that's not really much of a surprise.)
For example, there's a long stretch where Anne and Tony have almost no sex (with each other, I mean). Why? We could guess it's because Anne's having so much sex with other people and she's sore/tired, but we don't know and Tony never makes the transition from being very mildly upset to actually having a conversation about it. Then, suddenly, everything's fine again. Why? Well, if she's cheating, she has to cover up the double life, but her 180 happens whether or not she's cheating.
The hostility regarding Tony and other women arrives without justification. I don't mean that she's not justified in not necessarily giving Tony the unlimited free pass he's given her (though if she only knew how often he'd cheated on her she'd be quite justified), but rather that the player is given no explanation for it...or, in the case of Kelsey, only the most threadbare of explanations. She wasn't just fine, she was enthusiastic, about Nicole early in the game, and still is later on as long as you have a decent number of relationship points...but since she's also carrying on a sexual relationship with Nicole, whence the hostility? What's the reason for it? Yes, low relationship points...but that's not a story or a reason, that's a game mechanic. They can end their marriage (and the game) over someone she's also fucking; someone she once actively encouraged Tony to fuck. Why? We don't know.
Near the end of the game (1-14, I mean), on their second tropical vacation, she seems perpetually pissed off at Tony, and acts on that anger. Why? We have no idea.
To me, this is all part of the fundamental perspective problem in this story: after a certain point (once she finally commits to screwing other dudes), not only is she the actual protagonist of the game, nearly every choice that the player makes when Anne is on the screen is one they're making for Anne, not Tony. Tony is only occasionally the MC of this story. Phrasing options as Tony's choices, or even pretending that they could be, leads to ludicrous scenes like him sending Martin into the shower with Anne. Unless he's so lost in his cuckolding fetish that he craves being utterly humiliated by his dad a second time (and, to be fair, it sometimes seems like he might be), Tony would never, ever make that choice. But then again, he couldn't make the choice that opens up that scene — Anne and Martin fooling around on the beach — because he wasn't there. Again: we're making choices for Anne, not Tony. 95% of the choices we actually make for Tony are when Anne's nowhere to be seen. The rest are all about his wife. Think about how much more sense that scene makes if Martin pokes his nose into the bathroom to perv on Anne and, depending on her perspective about the state of her marriage, she's the one who chooses to invite him in or send him away.
This story would be vastly improved if it accepted that it's a dual-protagonist game and went all in on exploring Anne's feelings, thoughts, choices, and so forth. For example, if she was the one who decided to cheat on Tony (because they're not having sex, because he's cheating on her, because he's not being supportive of an activity he initiated in the first place, because she's gradually lost respect for him because of his fetish, or whatever else that would be relatively common for a story in this genre).
And there's so much more that would be interesting to know. What are her feelings about Dre? About Ryan? About Malcom? About Martin? About Mike? Why choose (if she does) to cheat on Tony with the two people — Martin and Ryan — that would hurt him the most, rather than, say, Drake? Was giving her panties to Troy a subconscious reaction to Tony and his coworker's obvious flirtation, or was it a conscious and pointed message? Why is she revenge-fucking dudes at the end of the story? Why does she suddenly have romantic feelings for the two men on the boat? Etc.
One thing that definitely improved from TAC to TACOS (though I haven't played the last two updates, so maybe it hasn't continued) was that Tony, rather than simple-mindedly and unquestioningly encouraging every single activity, actually showed some interest and concern about something other than his fetish for a change (I'm talking about the weekend spa scene). He can question her actions, and if he does she's forced to explain them. But it's very difficult to understand or empathize with Anne as a character if we can't get into her head more often. I dunno, maybe that's the point; maybe she's supposed to be an empty vessel for Tony's fetish. A sex doll to whom he happens to be married. But that's a pretty bleak and inconsequential story, if so.
For example, there's a long stretch where Anne and Tony have almost no sex (with each other, I mean). Why? We could guess it's because Anne's having so much sex with other people and she's sore/tired, but we don't know and Tony never makes the transition from being very mildly upset to actually having a conversation about it. Then, suddenly, everything's fine again. Why? Well, if she's cheating, she has to cover up the double life, but her 180 happens whether or not she's cheating.
The hostility regarding Tony and other women arrives without justification. I don't mean that she's not justified in not necessarily giving Tony the unlimited free pass he's given her (though if she only knew how often he'd cheated on her she'd be quite justified), but rather that the player is given no explanation for it...or, in the case of Kelsey, only the most threadbare of explanations. She wasn't just fine, she was enthusiastic, about Nicole early in the game, and still is later on as long as you have a decent number of relationship points...but since she's also carrying on a sexual relationship with Nicole, whence the hostility? What's the reason for it? Yes, low relationship points...but that's not a story or a reason, that's a game mechanic. They can end their marriage (and the game) over someone she's also fucking; someone she once actively encouraged Tony to fuck. Why? We don't know.
Near the end of the game (1-14, I mean), on their second tropical vacation, she seems perpetually pissed off at Tony, and acts on that anger. Why? We have no idea.
To me, this is all part of the fundamental perspective problem in this story: after a certain point (once she finally commits to screwing other dudes), not only is she the actual protagonist of the game, nearly every choice that the player makes when Anne is on the screen is one they're making for Anne, not Tony. Tony is only occasionally the MC of this story. Phrasing options as Tony's choices, or even pretending that they could be, leads to ludicrous scenes like him sending Martin into the shower with Anne. Unless he's so lost in his cuckolding fetish that he craves being utterly humiliated by his dad a second time (and, to be fair, it sometimes seems like he might be), Tony would never, ever make that choice. But then again, he couldn't make the choice that opens up that scene — Anne and Martin fooling around on the beach — because he wasn't there. Again: we're making choices for Anne, not Tony. 95% of the choices we actually make for Tony are when Anne's nowhere to be seen. The rest are all about his wife. Think about how much more sense that scene makes if Martin pokes his nose into the bathroom to perv on Anne and, depending on her perspective about the state of her marriage, she's the one who chooses to invite him in or send him away.
This story would be vastly improved if it accepted that it's a dual-protagonist game and went all in on exploring Anne's feelings, thoughts, choices, and so forth. For example, if she was the one who decided to cheat on Tony (because they're not having sex, because he's cheating on her, because he's not being supportive of an activity he initiated in the first place, because she's gradually lost respect for him because of his fetish, or whatever else that would be relatively common for a story in this genre).
And there's so much more that would be interesting to know. What are her feelings about Dre? About Ryan? About Malcom? About Martin? About Mike? Why choose (if she does) to cheat on Tony with the two people — Martin and Ryan — that would hurt him the most, rather than, say, Drake? Was giving her panties to Troy a subconscious reaction to Tony and his coworker's obvious flirtation, or was it a conscious and pointed message? Why is she revenge-fucking dudes at the end of the story? Why does she suddenly have romantic feelings for the two men on the boat? Etc.
One thing that definitely improved from TAC to TACOS (though I haven't played the last two updates, so maybe it hasn't continued) was that Tony, rather than simple-mindedly and unquestioningly encouraging every single activity, actually showed some interest and concern about something other than his fetish for a change (I'm talking about the weekend spa scene). He can question her actions, and if he does she's forced to explain them. But it's very difficult to understand or empathize with Anne as a character if we can't get into her head more often. I dunno, maybe that's the point; maybe she's supposed to be an empty vessel for Tony's fetish. A sex doll to whom he happens to be married. But that's a pretty bleak and inconsequential story, if so.
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Most of it she does but other times she cheats on him. But my post was in response to the other post where he said 'Tony never said that in game.'But Tony naively believes that Anne will tell him everything.
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Here you will find all the questions I asked the creator and his answers
1. Will Tony finally be able to fuck the first boss's wife, Anne, while she fucks him? Why I couldn't do it in your game. It was asking for it?
Yes Kenny and Candace play a much bigger roll in the original story. Candace will be available to fuck.
2. Will we finally have full control over Ania or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.
Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.
3. Will the stats be improved? Anna cheats with the doctor, the receptionist, the guy on the beach in the gazebo and a few others and the stats will not change always faithful but should change to unfaithful
The stats will be more accurate yes.
4. Will in-game choices matter? because they haven't had one recently. I rejected Martin and got him back in Ch15. I didn't want Anne not to work at Uncle Tony's bar, the game ignored my choice and Anne worked there and tricked Tony not telling him what she was going to do there and Tony the idiot didn't ask why, which was hopeless. Will I be able to turn down characters I don't want Anne to fuck? A doctor who haunts me at night, a guest from the reception, a guest from the beach in Altana and a few others
Choices will matter and play a big part in how Anne behaves
5 I wish they would act as a couple more often and do more together. Since they started operating alone they have lost the sense of being a couple has been lost and the game should be called "Happy Adventures of Worhe Anne"
I agree, I want to have them be more of The Adventurous Couple I had invisioned.
6. Anne has different partners and fucks old and young guys with different body types. Tony has very few girls and women to fuck. I counted 5 mature women. I wish Tony had as many women to fuck as Anne had guys of all ages and . Mature young, older women
I will try to even that out.
7. I would like the routes to be different from each other, e.g. when I'm on a swing tour, I don't mix that tour with another tour like you did recently in your game. I was on a faithful route, but I had a fraudulent route
Agree,
8.These are the sentences the couple get from this forum, I never understood what they were for. They may not perform these tasks at all, they get nothing for them. This is redundant, or while it should provide stat points for being faithful or unfaithful, it would be more logical.
It’s not meant to be something that has a tangible payoff or payout. It’s about opening up Anne and the couple to adventurous sexy things to try out and become more free.
This idea was taken from a real life group that my wife and I were a part of.
9. What will be the endings good - Anne gets pregnant with Tony, bad - the couple divorces
There will be multiple endings. Good and Bad
10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?
This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.
11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?
Swing stats will come later in the game.
12. Will I have a choice so that Anna doesn't finally fuck the doctor?
Yes, just for you lol. But all kidding ashes the choice will be given to the players for that scene.
13. Will there be a dialogue of Anne's thoughts ?
For some scenes yes, but not for all.
14. So if I understand TACOS correctly! the first week of the game will be the same and the rest of the chapters will be completely different? with new scene selections and dialogue? one you've always wanted to make but never added your ideas to the game?
First couple weeks will be the same with some new scenes added and old ones reworked. Going forward from that part will be a mix of old and new. Some of the old scenes were definitely planned but a lot were not.
There will be more with Nicole, Kenny and Candace, Erik, Dre and of course Martin. These are mainstay characters who's stories will progress.
15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?
They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!
16. Oh I also would have asked him if Annes pussy will have the bbc magnet removed so she can actually walk by one without jumping on his dick, also will Tony ever get a chance to fuck that lawyer by his old office or that hotty from vaccation that he always saw when getting coffee?
Anne’s actions will be dependent on players choice.
might be more action for MC
17.I see Is your game inspired in part by your real life?
Partially yes! The cheating parts definitely not but they’re good for gameplay. My wife is and exhibitionist and I a voyeur.
Here you will find all the questions I asked the creator and his answers
1. Will Tony finally be able to fuck the first boss's wife, Anne, while she fucks him? Why I couldn't do it in your game. It was asking for it?
Yes Kenny and Candace play a much bigger roll in the original story. Candace will be available to fuck.
2. Will we finally have full control over Ania or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.
Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.
3. Will the stats be improved? Anna cheats with the doctor, the receptionist, the guy on the beach in the gazebo and a few others and the stats will not change always faithful but should change to unfaithful
The stats will be more accurate yes.
4. Will in-game choices matter? because they haven't had one recently. I rejected Martin and got him back in Ch15. I didn't want Anne not to work at Uncle Tony's bar, the game ignored my choice and Anne worked there and tricked Tony not telling him what she was going to do there and Tony the idiot didn't ask why, which was hopeless. Will I be able to turn down characters I don't want Anne to fuck? A doctor who haunts me at night, a guest from the reception, a guest from the beach in Altana and a few others
Choices will matter and play a big part in how Anne behaves
5 I wish they would act as a couple more often and do more together. Since they started operating alone they have lost the sense of being a couple has been lost and the game should be called "Happy Adventures of Worhe Anne"
I agree, I want to have them be more of The Adventurous Couple I had invisioned.
6. Anne has different partners and fucks old and young guys with different body types. Tony has very few girls and women to fuck. I counted 5 mature women. I wish Tony had as many women to fuck as Anne had guys of all ages and . Mature young, older women
I will try to even that out.
7. I would like the routes to be different from each other, e.g. when I'm on a swing tour, I don't mix that tour with another tour like you did recently in your game. I was on a faithful route, but I had a fraudulent route
Agree,
8.These are the sentences the couple get from this forum, I never understood what they were for. They may not perform these tasks at all, they get nothing for them. This is redundant, or while it should provide stat points for being faithful or unfaithful, it would be more logical.
It’s not meant to be something that has a tangible payoff or payout. It’s about opening up Anne and the couple to adventurous sexy things to try out and become more free.
This idea was taken from a real life group that my wife and I were a part of.
9. What will be the endings good - Anne gets pregnant with Tony, bad - the couple divorces
There will be multiple endings. Good and Bad
10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?
This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.
11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?
Swing stats will come later in the game.
12. Will I have a choice so that Anna doesn't finally fuck the doctor?
Yes, just for you lol. But all kidding ashes the choice will be given to the players for that scene.
13. Will there be a dialogue of Anne's thoughts ?
For some scenes yes, but not for all.
14. So if I understand TACOS correctly! the first week of the game will be the same and the rest of the chapters will be completely different? with new scene selections and dialogue? one you've always wanted to make but never added your ideas to the game?
First couple weeks will be the same with some new scenes added and old ones reworked. Going forward from that part will be a mix of old and new. Some of the old scenes were definitely planned but a lot were not.
There will be more with Nicole, Kenny and Candace, Erik, Dre and of course Martin. These are mainstay characters who's stories will progress.
15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?
They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!
16. Oh I also would have asked him if Annes pussy will have the bbc magnet removed so she can actually walk by one without jumping on his dick, also will Tony ever get a chance to fuck that lawyer by his old office or that hotty from vaccation that he always saw when getting coffee?
Anne’s actions will be dependent on players choice.
might be more action for MC
17.I see Is your game inspired in part by your real life?
Partially yes! The cheating parts definitely not but they’re good for gameplay. My wife is and exhibitionist and I a voyeur.
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This could have a really mundane explaination. The Dev simply wanted to concentrate his efforts on the other sex scenes in the game, and just decided to leave out this content, and explain it by saying Anne was too tired. And perhaps, it was only when people started complaining about it, and suggesting there were ulterior motives behind the abscence, that he felt he needed to start adding sex scenes involving just the two main characters. Whether this is actually the case, I've no idea. But it's a possibility.
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Some good answers in there for things people have been asking for. I hope to see it come true. Especially keeping the different routes separate.
It seems unjustified, I mean why shouldn't Tony have a free pass as well? But from Anne's perspective, it may not seem so. When the game starts, Tony states that he wants to watch his wife with other men. And satisfying this fantasy is what he'd like to achieve. By degrees, he convinces Anne that she'd enjoy doing this herself. Which she ultimately does, and she also gets pleasure from being watched doing this by her husband. But nowhere does Tony broach the subject about him having fun with other women. Their arrangement doesn't include this at all. And even if it might seem to the player, to be the only fair outcome. It's never discussed by Anne and Tony, early on in the game, when the parameters of their new adventurous lifestyle are determined.
So maybe it's not so surprising that Anne is initially unhappy, when something she never ever considered, is suddenly a real possibility. Tony has had years fantasising about his wife fucking around, to get used to the idea of being really jealous about it, when it actually happened. Whereas, for Anne, this is something really new. Something she never imagined would happen, and definitely never thought of, as something she could possibly find sexually exciting herself. Her hostility is simply a reaction to that. Because NTR is all about jealousy, and Anne wasn't expecting to end up feeling jealous herself. That was supposed to be the MC's kink and definitely not hers.
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Ok, same scene that I am thinking of. However it does not lead to calling Kelsey or anyone else, just flows to car salesman. If not the case I need to look for the original non-walkthrough script.
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That's a really well written in depth post and I cant really say I disagree with any points. I will say tho I always felt like this game should of been a dual-protagonist game as it would play and feel so much better. Like you said getting more into depth into Anne's thoughts
Probably not any help but I played that path for fun last week when I read about it and for me it just ended when you choose a girl to call no car salesman scene
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Thanks for the file! Saves me a download of the whole game. But it looks like your file is also the walkthrough one. All good though. I just got the Bust Ryan/Anne and the Breakup/Call scenes mixed up. Phew! no need to update gallery mod.
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Except that explanation wasn't in the game. She didn't say anything, she just fell asleep. This is the heart of my point: she has a reason. It could be anything, but if she can't vocalize it, how can we know? We can only speculate, and this thread is full of years and years of speculation, some of it mine. Was any of it correct? Only Anne could tell us.
That said: if a wife who's having extramarital sex essentially cuts off her husband, that's not something a player can just ignore. There's a reason. Developer fatigue might indeed be the actual reason, but if it's a real story that we should care about, no one should accept that as the justification; there has to be an in-story reason. We're forced to make one up because the dev didn't give us one.
Even though that's obviously what he wants based on later gameplay, this isn't true. The initial remit was that they'd to this as a couple. Tony never explains his fetish to Anne, so she has no reason to assume that she has freedom and he doesn't. She's enthusiastic about the first cuckqueaning episode (whether or not Tony turns it into an Anne-focused event, which he can) and she's enthusiastic about Nicole. They absolutely didn't enter this lifestyle with the understanding that it'd be all about Anne. Tony might have believed that, but he never once said it to her.
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in any case in the game he never tells Anne this...This is from a conversation between Tony and Kenny when they went over for dinner early in the game. He does want to know what she does.
this is Kenny vs MC dialogue and Anne is not present!
you will never be able to find a dialog about this with Anne and Tony because it is not in the game...