VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S3 P1b] [Mircom3D]

[Monkdrunkey76]

Hi, can I ask what's the difference between TAC & TACOS?

I was frustrated, I'm sure I was playing TAC, that while on holiday Anne was get fucked over and over, and you rarely get even a handjob out of her, I like the swinging and sharing side of NTR, but that wasn't even close to sharing and swinging, Anne gets railed you get squat!

l had read, on a different F95 VN thread, that TACOS isn't like that as much as TAC was?

I get the ease Anne in slow to the swinging scene, but that seemed, way over the top for a loving & satisfied with each other couple, surely there would be more inclusion for the husband/fiance (after all the idea was to share Anne, not cuckold yourself)

Thanks in advance, cheers

 

[Monkdrunkey76]

Didn't see those posts above when I started typing this out?

 

[rootactual]

sorry I don't see any question that requires an answer from me in your post

what is your question about this game?

You were talking about different TAC Versions like an old and a new version. I can't follow in what capacity this impacts the viewpoints you are making. Like the old TAC Anna was wilder as in the new TAC - so what's your point exactly there?

And I asked you since I have read only the last like 10 posts what exactly your main arguments are. Since it's very confusing for someone new to the discussion to follow your very long thought strains on the matter. And you seem to want to bring some points across. I just wonder what these points are.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

just finished 9a. god damn finally. Anne offers her ass to her husband. glad this didn't get put off till the Anniversary trip like in the orignal version. i always wondered how Tony hasn't already fucked Anne's ass. Anal Annie is her new name.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

I agree with this, also Anne and Tony's performance in the bedroom isn't that great IMO. They mostly do missionary for a start, Tony turns into a two pump chump with Anne. While most play this to see Anne get her back blown out by other guys, it would be great to see them have some chemistry in the bedroom. Especially considering this entire "adventure" is about spicing up their own sex life.

Definately agree with that, I mean look how rough he fucks Nichole in the last update (which she loved) compared to the way he fucks his wife, if they fuck or not half the time bitch is too tired, always sleeping in her makeup & havnt they heard of a pillow Ann is always sleeping on her arms

 

[MakkAnzy]

Interesting game. I'd say this is more of an open relationship/marriage game than actual cuckold for those who are worried to step into it. I was a bit hesitant at first, but yea, the MC gets around as much as the wife does, depending on your choices of course. just my two cents...

 

[Segnbora]

I'd say this is more of an open relationship/marriage game than actual cuckold

I think that depends on how you play it, though I freely admit that this opinion relies on TAC and may not reflect the remake. TAC definitely had a path in which Tony lost any emotional interest in Anne fucking other guys; he wanted her to keep doing it because he got off on it, but he stopped actually caring who/when/why. He could endorse Martin. He could endorse Ryan. Very much a cuckold path. TACOS, so far, seems much more aligned to two fundamental paths: open relationship, or cheating (either Anne or Tony, or both). The game would be massively improved for me if this actually mattered; if cheating (on either part) led to real consequences. I guess we'll see.

 

[Joshy92]

Interesting game. I'd say this is more of an open relationship/marriage game than actual cuckold for those who are worried to step into it. I was a bit hesitant at first, but yea, the MC gets around as much as the wife does, depending on your choices of course. just my two cents...

I actually kind of wish it had a cuck route.

 

[blkcrow20]

I'm ok without the cuck route. I don't even like the word cuckold. It's humiliating and I don't like humiliation.

 

[MakkAnzy]

I think that depends on how you play it, though I freely admit that this opinion relies on TAC and may not reflect the remake. TAC definitely had a path in which Tony lost any emotional interest in Anne fucking other guys; he wanted her to keep doing it because he got off on it, but he stopped actually caring who/when/why. He could endorse Martin. He could endorse Ryan. Very much a cuckold path. TACOS, so far, seems much more aligned to two fundamental paths: open relationship, or cheating (either Anne or Tony, or both). The game would be massively improved for me if this actually mattered; if cheating (on either part) led to real consequences. I guess we'll see.

I agree. A little bit of drama and serious discussion between them about the cheating will be a good improvement to this line. I'd like to see a GAME OVER option leading to divorce at some point for this, and an "I'm sorry I screwed up, let's make this work" option where the game continue. There is no shame in a game having multiple endings and this could be one...

 

[Segnbora]

A little bit of drama and serious discussion between them about the cheating will be a good improvement to this line.

So far, in TACOS, Anne's a lot less forgiving of Tony having sex with other women, even though he theoretically has the same permission she does. (And here I'm talking about the hookups she knows about, not the times he cheats.) Which makes choices like Tony choosing to get with Nicole yet again, as in this release, feel a lot more potentially consequential. A good thing, in my opinion. I don't know that this game can get to a point where it explores this particular hypocrisy in an interesting way, but I'd cheer out loud if it did. Or the Nicole incident could be the beginning of the cuckqueaning path Mircom promised, once he confesses and Anne's forced to accept that she has no real basis to object. Again, I guess we'll see.

I'd like to see a GAME OVER option leading to divorce at some point for this

Me too. All the "game over" scenarios in TAC were because Tony changed his mind and wanted Anne to have less extramarital fun (well, there was also the Punta Cana incident in which he somehow hadn't properly assured her that getting a BJ from Elena was a reasonable quid pro quo, which never made a bit of narrative sense). To pull that off required a lot more work on the actual marriage and its dynamics, rather than hiding the disintegration behind a stat. There was never a conversation where Anne confronted Tony: "You wanted me to do this, and I have, and now you don't? What's changed? Why? Because I have to tell you that I'm disinclined to stop." (not that Anne knows words like "disinclined"). Narratively, it was the equivalent of bringing your child to a playground, and then watching them have an absolute meltdown when you have to drag them away because it's time for dinner.

"I'm sorry I screwed up, let's make this work" option where the game continue.

It'll be interesting to see how this works, if he does indeed intend paths like this. Just some occasional fun rather than nonstop banging? Swinging only? Cold turkey? A "no" list, like porn actresses have?

 

[Lagunavii]

The issue we have with both TAC and TACOS is there is no real destination, that is to say other than the "letting my wife sleep around to save my marriage" trope - there is no under lying story, like there is with A life worth living for example. despite both versions of the game being about trying to save the marriage, they both lost sight of that goal pretty fast. Having Anne cheat at least gives us a way to an ending, it will more than likely be the end of marriage ending, there is also the slight underscore of mystery with the will she get caught and the fallout from that, but given MCs attitude, he likely wont give a shit. the Cuck story we have (as little as it is) cant really lead anywhere other than MC getting cold feet and backing out again leading to the end of the marriage.

It became very clear in all versions of the game this is in fact Annes story and the MC is just a bystander, a weak one at that, hopefully the cuckqueen path will lead to more with the male part of "the adventurous Couple" not just Anne and give us a different cock for anne to play with every week

 

[BlenderGuy]

The end of the story will be when the wife becomes a full time QOS, leaves the cuck hubby and marries the father in law.

 

[Justaphase]

The issue we have with both TAC and TACOS is there is no real destination, that is to say other than the "letting my wife sleep around to save my marriage" trope - there is no under lying story, like there is with A life worth living for example. despite both versions of the game being about trying to save the marriage, they both lost sight of that goal pretty fast. Having Anne cheat at least gives us a way to an ending, it will more than likely be the end of marriage ending, there is also the slight underscore of mystery with the will she get caught and the fallout from that, but given MCs attitude, he likely wont give a shit. the Cuck story we have (as little as it is) cant really lead anywhere other than MC getting cold feet and backing out again leading to the end of the marriage.

It became very clear in all versions of the game this is in fact Annes story and the MC is just a bystander, a weak one at that, hopefully the cuckqueen path will lead to more with the male part of "the adventurous Couple" not just Anne and give us a different cock for anne to play with every week

Well the whole point and destination of their "adventure" was to spice up their own sex life. But they seem to have gotten lost in Anne just sleeping with whoever she wants while Tony gets cast aside much of the time. I agree with others that the original TAC seemed to be much more of a shared experience (yes you had to choose the right options) whereas in TACOS Anne seems to even be getting more "romantically" involved with other guys, instead of just using them for sex. Going on dates with them alone, or wanting to at least if you deny her, sleeping with them without Tony being involved or being asked his opinion.
I still enjoy this remake it has quite a few improvements and I hope it can course correct, perhaps some truth/truths come out which forces them to reevaluate their relationship and what they want going forward.

 

[Lagunavii]

I hope it can course correct, perhaps some truth/truths come out which forces them to reevaluate their relationship and what they want going forward.

Truth coming out in someway ultimately has to happen for this to go anywhere, whether that being the truth about Martin, Anne realising she has feelings for somebody else, Tony developing feelings for someone else or hating what his wife has become. There are of course other truths, but all roads at the moment seem to lead to divorce or at best Tony getting caged.

There is now no underlying reason for the two of them behaving the way they do, there's no drama, no theat, no anything really, it's just which cock is Anne getting on this week.

I see the cuck queen path adding this, it'll be interesting to see Anne's reaction when she's on the other side of it for once, but if the cheating and messing around just gets hand waved away like it did in the original,
I'm not sure where it's going

 

[Ryahn]

Cleaning up thread. Locked until done

Blame Lerd0 jk

 

[Ryahn]

Reopened. Do not bitch about posts being deleted, etc. Its off topic. If you want to bitch, make a thread in off topic forum.

 

[Segnbora]

It became very clear in all versions of the game this is in fact Annes story and the MC is just a bystander

I've been saying this since the very first version; the only reason Tony is ostensibly the main character is that dudes resist playing female protagonist games. Even then, a fair number of the player's choices are actually Anne's choices, without Tony being involved. In TAC, nothing Tony does ultimately matters, save for that Elena BJ in Punta Cana. He can cheat and all that happens is a scolding, or the loss of a few relationship points. The only decisions that matter are those he (or the player) makes for Anne: whether or not to let her fuck Martin or Ryan, whether to just shrug either relationship off, whether or not to complain that she's taking things too far. In TACOS, at least so far, the only thing Tony can actually do that affects the core relationship is the same thing that he could (but shouldn't) do in TAC: try to stop her from fucking other guys. Narratively, I've always wished that this story was being told from Anne's POV, because what's going on in her head (monosyllabic though it probably is), in reaction to Tony's proposal to open up their marriage and everything that ensues, has to be far more interesting than Tony's perspective.

The few times that we do get a glimpse into Anne's thoughts, as (in TACOS) when she's deciding to cheat with Martin, are so much more interesting than Tony's perspective, and I welcomed their introduction in the current remake. I'd love to actually know how she feels about Dre, rather than extrapolating from the Tony's view and the renders. To be in her head while she's either (on one path) naïvely going along with the "bang everyone" plan, or (on another path) scheming to exploit Tony's fetish to get more of what she really wants, or (on yet another path) silently nursing her resentment over Tony's fetish and his cheating and vowing to get back at him, would be a much more interesting story. But to get that, she'd have to be the POV character. Still, you're absolutely correct: this story has always been about Anne.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

The end of the story will be when the wife becomes a full time QOS, leaves the cuck hubby and marries the father in law.

Which is fine with me as one Anne does not equal one Nicole + one Emma + all the girls at the diner + all the girls at the office. In TACOS, Tony baloney can choose multiple points to parachute out of the maelstrom he created.

 

[Adviar5050]

I've been saying this since the very first version; the only reason Tony is ostensibly the main character is that dudes resist playing female protagonist games. Even then, a fair number of the player's choices are actually Anne's choices, without Tony being involved. In TAC, nothing Tony does ultimately matters, save for that Elena BJ in Punta Cana. He can cheat and all that happens is a scolding, or the loss of a few relationship points. The only decisions that matter are those he (or the player) makes for Anne: whether or not to let her fuck Martin or Ryan, whether to just shrug either relationship off, whether or not to complain that she's taking things too far. In TACOS, at least so far, the only thing Tony can actually do that affects the core relationship is the same thing that he could (but shouldn't) do in TAC: try to stop her from fucking other guys. Narratively, I've always wished that this story was being told from Anne's POV, because what's going on in her head (monosyllabic though it probably is), in reaction to Tony's proposal to open up their marriage and everything that ensues, has to be far more interesting than Tony's perspective.

The few times that we do get a glimpse into Anne's thoughts, as (in TACOS) when she's deciding to cheat with Martin, are so much more interesting than Tony's perspective, and I welcomed their introduction in the current remake. I'd love to actually know how she feels about Dre, rather than extrapolating from the Tony's view and the renders. To be in her head while she's either (on one path) naïvely going along with the "bang everyone" plan, or (on another path) scheming to exploit Tony's fetish to get more of what she really wants, or (on yet another path) silently nursing her resentment over Tony's fetish and his cheating and vowing to get back at him, would be a much more interesting story. But to get that, she'd have to be the POV character. Still, you're absolutely correct: this story has always been about Anne.

I agree. I think Mircom has said we would get more of Annie's thoughts in this version which I think is wise. I always thought the original missed Annie's thoughts on what they were doing. That was why when they went on the last trip and Annie said, "Do you still think we are a good couple" didn't make any sense. I want to see more and more of Annie's thoughts as the game progresses. It will make it more interesting and also when Annie shuts someone down it makes more sense.