Early days but this seemed quality. I like all the different personality stats for everyone (and greatly appreciate the inbuilt hints). Girls seem solid, dude's hot wife is obviously top of the pile, I'm hoping she's hinting at wanting a child. I like a muscly elf too. The lady with the eye scar sadly didn't seem to be in the list of girls to get involved with, but as the brown maid wasn't either and we've already kicked things off with her then I guess it's not definitive. Goblin girl kinda annoyed me, want to see her fall to ruin a bit.
Renders were solid, girls seemed new rather than models I've seen a thousand times, not much smut atm but forgivable as it's early... I look forward to more.
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It will have a harem path. As for NTR...Since the term is used pretty loosely, I'll try to get into more detail:
- Netorase/Cuckolding aka, the type of fetish where the focus is on the cucks humiliation and/or him getting off on getting cucked: Not into that stuff, won't be in the game at all.
- Classic NTR aka, where you have a healthy relationship that gets destroyed by some other guy snooping in, who corrupts the girl and makes her his own: If the player really fucks up, the MC may permanently lose a Love Interest, but it'll be a one and done and not a focus of the story. There won't be constantly recurring NTR scenes, rubbing it in the players face.
- Netori aka, where the MC is the one doing the cucking: If the player wants to have the MC act like a complete sleazebag, this is absolutely in the cards.
- Sharing (not really NTR, but since you asked): Again, if you want to play the MC like a sleazebag, you will, for example, have the opportunity to use your harem for your personal gain aka, pimping them out. If you choose to do so, of course. Freedom of choice is the most important aspect in all of this.
So it seems like NTR or any "Kink" similar/related it it will be completely optional/avoidable?
If so I recommend adding that additional details to the spoilers or Dev notes so that future players who may or interested people have a better understanding of what they can expect if they decide to play the game... If you're upfront about it right there on the main home page explaining it or just have in the tags have it say "Netorare (avoidable)" people are less likely to ask as often or ask the forums bringing up the same question 100 times.
I Mean no disrespect, text can sound mean without a tone of voice... Pretty much in the future when making a game that may have controversial things such as NTR, Sharing, Swinging, or similar it would be a good idea to have a small section on the main page dedicates to these questions either a blunt statement about it or a short Q&A posted in the Dev notes and cover other topics that might be common questions too.
Picked this up with the newest update. Pretty solid harem game brewing. One request: on the screen where you see your and the girls' stats, can you please put a name to the girls' pics? It would help immensely with linking their image in the stats to their name in options of things to do during the day. Especially in these early days before their names are just memorized and automatic.
So it seems like NTR or any "Kink" similar/related it it will be completely optional/avoidable?
If so I recommend adding that additional details to the spoilers or Dev notes so that future players who may or interested people have a better understanding of what they can expect if they decide to play the game... If you're upfront about it right there on the main home page explaining it or just have in the tags have it say "Netorare (avoidable)" people are less likely to ask as often or ask the forums bringing up the same question 100 times.
I Mean no disrespect, text can sound mean without a tone of voice... Pretty much in the future when making a game that may have controversial things such as NTR, Sharing, Swinging, or similar it would be a good idea to have a small section on the main page dedicates to these questions either a blunt statement about it or a short Q&A posted in the Dev notes and cover other topics that might be common questions too.
Agreed, since I'm not very much into NTR, I usually check in the developer notes or genre whether it's unavoidable or maybe it's Netori which for me is a mood click. Having to go through bigger games with 200+ pages of comments to find someone talking about it is annoying and I just don't do it at all anymore, helps that there's only 5 pages here.
Great game so far. Enjoying the character development (though there's a LOT of characters), and looking forward the NTR you implement. I'm personally hoping it's some realistic stuff, genuine seduction etc and not some old man blackmail or forced stuff, but you do you. Good luck with development!
This begs the question, "Why have them anyway then?" If they require the player to make bad choices and aren't the intent and focus, why would you reward negative choices with a sex scene? It encourages some people to make negative choices and to actually avoid the story as you would want it to be told. While simultaneously functioning as a deterrent to even play and worry point for those who actually want to see the best outcomes and the story unfold as intended and have an aversion to seeing NTR. I had written more in this section, but honestly, I don't see much point in having the same old discussion drawn out further.
It's almost as if those scenes will be treated as punishment instead of reward. Why think of it as a reward in the first place when they won't even be in your face like most NTR games would? Consequences is a good thing to have an intriguing story. It can be quite boring to have the MC just gets all the girls without challenges or potential mistakes that the players could make if they're not careful. We have enough of that type of harem.
If avoidable NTR is enough to be a deterrent to play, then it sounds like these players just hate consequences. Not to mention, the dev is quite transparent about the game's future content. Choose wisely and don't get cucked. Simple as.
just going to be ntr fans beating down your door asking for more of this content, and getting the bad ending on purpose just to see ntr scenes... They not going to be satisfied with just one and done... Feels like a waste of time on scenes that is not even the main focus to begin with.
Dev already explained that NTR won't the the focus at all, just as punishment of sort. Other folks were right about putting that lengthy explanation on Developer Notes, so NTR fans will know this game ain't what they're looking for.
If they could read, that is. It's F95 after all.
Anyway, I don't play this dev's first game, so I don't know how consistent or trustworthy their words and promises are. If they ever stray away, then show that lengthy wall of text the dev wrote to expose their hypocrisy, drop the game, review bomb, etc.
Good story so far!
Two suggestions:
1. add the characters' name to their stat screens, like above the portrait
2. during Lyra's nightly street scene end of day 2, instead of randomly rolling for a hit, generally roll versus the current brawling skill value in such situations. Not sure how these skills are used in the future, but it always feels good to experience as much use of stats as possible, same for the personality stats, watching improvements take effect and making differences.
(...)The lady with the eye scar sadly didn't seem to be in the list of girls to get involved with, but as the brown maid wasn't either and we've already kicked things off with her then I guess it's not definitive.(...)
While not every female character will be a full-blown love interest, there will be options for hook ups on the side with these non-main love interest characters. The game is a WIP, so some of these may be upgraded to full-blown love interests, but that's for the future (and 7 LI's is already plenty, at the moment).
There are and will be regular polls on my patreon, to get a feel on which female characters the player base are most interested in getting new content. I take that feedback into consideration, when working on new updates.
So it seems like NTR or any "Kink" similar/related it it will be completely optional/avoidable?
If so I recommend adding that additional details to the spoilers or Dev notes so that future players who may or interested people have a better understanding of what they can expect if they decide to play the game... If you're upfront about it right there on the main home page explaining it or just have in the tags have it say "Netorare (avoidable)" people are less likely to ask as often or ask the forums bringing up the same question 100 times.
I Mean no disrespect, text can sound mean without a tone of voice... Pretty much in the future when making a game that may have controversial things such as NTR, Sharing, Swinging, or similar it would be a good idea to have a small section on the main page dedicates to these questions either a blunt statement about it or a short Q&A posted in the Dev notes and cover other topics that might be common questions too.
I never expected it to be that much of an issue, tbh, since the NTR content was always planned to be a limited "you fucked up" mechanic. It will only trigger, after the player does a whole string of bad decisions, involving a particular love interest. But since people saw it as an issue, I implemented the option to turn NTR off, either at the beginning of the game, or at any other time, via the menu.
(...)One request: on the screen where you see your and the girls' stats, can you please put a name to the girls' pics? It would help immensely with linking their image in the stats to their name in options of things to do during the day. Especially in these early days before their names are just memorized and automatic.
(...)2. during Lyra's nightly street scene end of day 2, instead of randomly rolling for a hit, generally roll versus the current brawling skill value in such situations. Not sure how these skills are used in the future, but it always feels good to experience as much use of stats as possible, same for the personality stats, watching improvements take effect and making differences.
I did a d12 roll for this one, instead of 20 (which would be the max brawling skill), because the MC had the surprise advantage and his opponent was somewhat of a bum. I'll always adjust the size of the dice, according to the scenario.
So, it's fixed, but I don't think this small issue deserved a bugfix release, that's why the fix will come with the next regular update.
It's almost as if those scenes will be treated as punishment instead of reward. Why think of it as a reward in the first place when they won't even be in your face like most NTR games would? Consequences is a good thing to have an intriguing story. It can be quite boring to have the MC just gets all the girls without challenges or potential mistakes that the players could make if they're not careful. We have enough of that type of harem.
If avoidable NTR is enough to be a deterrent to play, then it sounds like these players just hate consequences. Not to mention, the dev is quite transparent about the game's future content. Choose wisely and don't get cucked. Simple as.
I prefer the option of turning on the hint system and turning off NTR. That way I don't have to think wisely, but just see what best fits the result I want.
