VN Ren'Py The Better Deal [v0.8b] [Ze-gam-eZ]

[bigguy_foryou]

And here I am, having no interest in the lesbian content at all.

 

[Buletti]

And here I am, having no interest in the lesbian content at all.

Enjoy all the dicks then!

 

[jackdanniels]

Enjoy all the dicks then!

Ah, come on, a dick inside a pussy is nice... but not in my ass. Lesbian sex is also awesome.
I'm always for bisexual FMCs, not only lesbian. People fight too much for pure "lesbianism". It's a kinky, I know... But kinkshaming "vanilla" sexuality is no good.

 

[HollowDux]

I choose the lesbian options and iirc have not seen one dick and no cum. So it is definately up to the decisions you make.

Did you played the last update?

Ah, come on, a dick inside a pussy is nice... but not in my ass. Lesbian sex is also awesome.
I'm always for bisexual FMCs, not only lesbian. People fight too much for pure "lesbianism". It's a kinky, I know... But kinkshaming "vanilla" sexuality is no good.

"Lesbianism" is not a kink

 

[Buletti]

Did you played the last update?

"Lesbianism" is not a kink

Okay, but from your post it seemed you where complaining about the whole VN...

Well, this update was just very short for me but the previous ones still made this whole story very enjoyable imho. I just hope we will get a few more updates that are worthwhile.

 

[HollowDux]

Okay, but from your post it seemed you where complaining about the whole VN...

Well, this update was just very short for me but the previous ones still made this whole story very enjoyable imho. I just hope we will get a few more updates that are worthwhile.

I see your point, you are right. I was only talking about the last update.

 

[PickerLewd]

I've always wanted to support this creator by buying their game, but they were in a difficult position as they couldn't update it on Steam while dozens of other games were being updated normally.

Does anyone know what the situation is now? Have they given up, or found a bug (loophole) to allow an update? .

 

[JNev]

I've always wanted to support this creator by buying their game, but they were in a difficult position as they couldn't update it on Steam while dozens of other games were being updated normally.

Does anyone know what the situation is now? Have they given up, or found a bug (loophole) to allow an update? .

I think there were plans to update the Steam version when the game reach version 1.0. Means, all endings are finished and included, then.

 

[enerre]

Seriously, the game was really good until now, but this last episode makes everything lose its meaning. Right when I bought it on Steam...

 

[JNev]

Seriously, the game was really good until now, but this last episode makes everything lose its meaning. Right when I bought it on Steam...

What do you mean? The game isn't finished, yet.

 

[enerre]

What do you mean? The game isn't finished, yet.

In this latest update, the story has become flatter, with some passages in the style of CoD BO7, and little "action." According to the game, now is the time for the romance between Jack and Sunny to develop (although I don't like games with lesbian themes) and for some touches of debauchery with the other characters. For example, I thought Terrence could have taken more advantage of her before he died. When Desmond was having "sex with the wall", Sunny could have let her heterosexual side show a little, things like that. But the game is yours and I believe in its potential.

If I missed anything, I apologize, but the paths I followed only allowed me to leave a loose end.

Now, we'll have to wait another 6 months until we see any updates.

 

[JNev]

In this latest update, the story has become flatter, with some passages in the style of CoD BO7, and little "action." According to the game, now is the time for the romance between Jack and Sunny to develop (although I don't like games with lesbian themes) and for some touches of debauchery with the other characters. For example, I thought Terrence could have taken more advantage of her before he died. When Desmond was having "sex with the wall", Sunny could have let her heterosexual side show a little, things like that. But the game is yours and I believe in its potential.

If I missed anything, I apologize, but the paths I followed only allowed me to leave a loose end.

Now, we'll have to wait another 6 months until we see any updates.

Mhm, I understand. The last update became flatter, because there weren't many choices anymore. At this point of the game the choices you made before matter and you start to get the first results within this update. Of course, more actions with characters are always possible, but the game "suffers" a little when the premise was to keep it short.

Since the most endings are yet to come, having a loose end seems like you still have something to explore with the next update

By the way, it's not my game, it's developed by zegamez

I don't know how long it will take to complete it, but I hope you get a satisfying end.

 

[HollowDux]

At this point of the game the choices you made before matter and you start to get the first results within this update.

I've played as a lesbian from the very start, avoided every dicks and hetero scene like the plague. The new update drop, now dicks are shove in my face. Great. That tracks.
The game build-up for over a years, with the lab, the new coworkers and the intrigue of the new workplace to *BOOM* everybody* die. I find this a total waste of a setup. The game was great and respected the player preference until the last update.

 

[JNev]

I've played as a lesbian from the very start, avoided every dicks and hetero scene like the plague. The new update drop, now dicks are shove in my face. Great. That tracks.
The game build-up for over a years, with the lab, the new coworkers and the intrigue of the new workplace to *BOOM* everybody* die. I find this a total waste of a setup. The game was great and respected the player preference until the last update.

Yeah, in the beginning the game wasn't made up for avoid showing dicks to the last scene. Unless using an additional option in the settings of the game, it could be lead to misunderstandings in the narrative what a player wants to see. Because there was never such a button, it wasn't that unlikely to see a dick in a adult game. There isn't even a warning when you accidentally could enter a heterosexual scene. The game isn't finished and maybe it gets polished after version 1.0 to that preference.

The ending you mentioned isn't the only one that is available, but I assume you went for Melissa. I don't know if there will be more branches in a later version, but there is still content to explore with the next update - I am sure.

 

[grossegon]

thx

 

[HollowDux]

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[enerre]

Mhm, I understand. The last update became flatter, because there weren't many choices anymore. At this point of the game the choices you made before matter and you start to get the first results within this update. Of course, more actions with characters are always possible, but the game "suffers" a little when the premise was to keep it short.

Since the most endings are yet to come, having a loose end seems like you still have something to explore with the next update

By the way, it's not my game, it's developed by zegamez

I don't know how long it will take to complete it, but I hope you get a satisfying end.

You're not the screenwriter? If so, you're the soul of the game. Without you, the game is just a sequence of images and options to select. You are responsible for building the characters' personalities.

 

[JNev]

There is multiple way you can convey that all their clothing melted in the elevator without actually showing dicks and cum. You can cut up the image slightly below the belt or show them only from behind, you know, something that the dev themselves advertise in the game description.

To a certain point your critic is valid. I can tell that zegamez is very open for improvements within the game and added scenes that were never planned before just because someone said "I just want to see only anal sex in the game and nothing else". Because everyone has a kink they like it's really difficult to make everyone happy, because you have to re-think every scene. I am pretty sure that way also a pure lesbian run was made, which means, you can avoid any kind of sex scene with a man. I am not sure if "avoiding a dick" in a render sequence is something that fell under that advertisement, but if it was, I might be just forgotten and have to be adjusted in a final version. Maybe you haven't noticed, but there were no more new achievements in the last update. Why? Because it will added later.

The next update is the final one, the dev have already confirm this. I expect no more branches and nothing more to explore, just a quick wrap up + the end. Everything that happen ingame until the last update was a great first act, very promising with a good intrigue. All that great buildup just to end on a whimper. It's a shame really.

Yes, the amount of decisions you can make in the next update is limited, but that part of the game is the final conclusion of your previous actions. I understand that you wanted more and dive in deeper. I would like that, too. But the biggest weak point the game has that zegamez always wanted a short game experience, nothing that runs in long term like Beauty And The Thug. Some things that might look bad executed always will fall back to that premise. And I guess, that's why you feel disappointed.

I know I don't sound like it but I'm grateful for all the work zegamez put into it. I just wish they would follow their own rules and promise features.

I understand what you mean and I think you try to be constructive. I am pretty sure, if zegamez would read this, he will make up his mind about this. It might end in the decision that he still leave it like it is, because maybe it could bloat the game too much and he doesn't have enough time for that. I am not sure if he violated his own rules or promised features, because there wasn't an advertisement of a game with no dicks, but I am sure that your thoughts will be considerated if it improves the gameplay (even if that means, the game will not be changed at this particular point).

You're not the screenwriter? If so, you're the soul of the game. Without you, the game is just a sequence of images and options to select. You are responsible for building the characters' personalities.

It is true that I have written a novel that the game is based of and that I am helping zegamez any way a can with the development process and in this thread, obviously. I can make suggestions when I see that there are narrative issues or a missing branch, for example. Core decisions are still completely with zegamez.
For example, in the update 0.7 I suggested to get some additional narrative scenes with certain characters, while he wanted to focus on the love interest scenes. My concerns were heard, but not implemented. In the end it is his game and he has to decide how much time and effort he wants to put in the update progress. I respect that.

 

[enerre]

To a certain point your critic is valid. I can tell that zegamez is very open for improvements within the game and added scenes that were never planned before just because someone said "I just want to see only anal sex in the game and nothing else". Because everyone has a kink they like it's really difficult to make everyone happy, because you have to re-think every scene. I am pretty sure that way also a pure lesbian run was made, which means, you can avoid any kind of sex scene with a man. I am not sure if "avoiding a dick" in a render sequence is something that fell under that advertisement, but if it was, I might be just forgotten and have to be adjusted in a final version. Maybe you haven't noticed, but there were no more new achievements in the last update. Why? Because it will added later.



Yes, the amount of decisions you can make in the next update is limited, but that part of the game is the final conclusion of your previous actions. I understand that you wanted more and dive in deeper. I would like that, too. But the biggest weak point the game has that zegamez always wanted a short game experience, nothing that runs in long term like Beauty And The Thug. Some things that might look bad executed always will fall back to that premise. And I guess, that's why you feel disappointed.



I understand what you mean and I think you try to be constructive. I am pretty sure, if zegamez would read this, he will make up his mind about this. It might end in the decision that he still leave it like it is, because maybe it could bloat the game too much and he doesn't have enough time for that. I am not sure if he violated his own rules or promised features, because there wasn't an advertisement of a game with no dicks, but I am sure that your thoughts will be considerated if it improves the gameplay (even if that means, the game will not be changed at this particular point).



It is true that I have written a novel that the game is based of and that I am helping zegamez any way a can with the development process and in this thread, obviously. I can make suggestions when I see that there are narrative issues or a missing branch, for example. Core decisions are still completely with zegamez.
For example, in the update 0.7 I suggested to get some additional narrative scenes with certain characters, while he wanted to focus on the love interest scenes. My concerns were heard, but not implemented. In the end it is his game and he has to decide how much time and effort he wants to put in the update progress. I respect that.

Roger that