Great looking girls but wow another female protagonist game where the girls can't find two brain cells to rub together sad
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From what game is the screenshot? : oI would give the dev a chance. There must be a reason MC wears a giant sweater.
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The thing is : these options will be available later. (But not in the way we could think. Because as we can see here or on SS, it confuse a lot of people...)
He stated himself that fact in response on someone who asked on SS.
My opinion, it's a clumsy attempt to show options that will be available in the future, as Sam's "corruption" increase as the game goes in future same type of events.
But these options will not be available at this point of the game at any moment, you'll just get the dialog telling "I'm not ready for that", because she's not ready for that, and that's all, it just shows what bad choices you'll be available to make her do in the future (when taking the bus for example).
And that's how I've percieved this locked choice thing.
From what I saw his other games, Partades is not the type to do some dick move and locking choices on purpose behind paywall and other shitty things.
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Mercedes
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I think it's the wrong approach to show options now that can't be implemented.
Later in the game, however, it might be possible to show that there is an option here if you had made a different decision earlier, or if your stats were better.
Course of Temptation handles this quite well in my opinion.
You take off your bra and venture out into the hallway wearing only your shirt, but not into the courtyard yet.
So you're not allowed to leave the hallway, but you get the hint "There are more options here if your Exhibitionism is above level 3."
So the player either has to wait and increase their skill or make a different decision beforehand. For example, go back a few steps and repeat the scene, or make a different decision in a new playthrough, since they now have the opportunity to specifically work towards certain situations.
But simply blocking it and not offering any way to allow it at the current time is, in my opinion, a mistake and an unnecessary point of discussion. You can already see it. 1/3 of the posts deal solely with the blocked option.
Later in the game, however, it might be possible to show that there is an option here if you had made a different decision earlier, or if your stats were better.
Course of Temptation handles this quite well in my opinion.
You take off your bra and venture out into the hallway wearing only your shirt, but not into the courtyard yet.
So you're not allowed to leave the hallway, but you get the hint "There are more options here if your Exhibitionism is above level 3."
So the player either has to wait and increase their skill or make a different decision beforehand. For example, go back a few steps and repeat the scene, or make a different decision in a new playthrough, since they now have the opportunity to specifically work towards certain situations.
But simply blocking it and not offering any way to allow it at the current time is, in my opinion, a mistake and an unnecessary point of discussion. You can already see it. 1/3 of the posts deal solely with the blocked option.
Well, with a sandbox type of game, it's easier to handle that type of things, in a linear VN, were choices don't matter much at this point (maybe it'll change in the future?), I can't figure out how he could've handled it better, I said it's a clumsy attempt, but I can't think of a better way to do that either... XD
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Having played some of the dev's other game, you can be pretty sure this will be a brain damaged young girl getting dicked down by old fat dudes, hobo's, and multiple black dude's. I like some of the girl's and models simply because I hate the standard unrealistic looking overly big tits and ass we see 90% of the time but I have no love for mentally challenged young girl's getting abused by disgusting dude's. Hopefully dev's next game wont be another copy.
i kind of like this type of games....so...i hope it goes further
he said it will be add in the next version. He did not have the time to finish it
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I just want to clear up some confusion about the options that show up as "locked" during the game.
When I was working on the VN, I thought it’d be cool to tease some future scenes and show how Sam is already thinking about doing those things. But since she’s still innocent, she’s not able to do them yet.
So I decided to label those choices as “locked,” but looking back, that was a mistake. A lot of people didn’t get what it meant, and some even thought it was content only available for paying subscribers or something like that.
Sorry about the misunderstanding! For the next version, I’m planning to change “locked” to something like “Available in future updates” or something clearer.
I’m totally open to suggestions if you’ve got better ideas to make it!
When I was working on the VN, I thought it’d be cool to tease some future scenes and show how Sam is already thinking about doing those things. But since she’s still innocent, she’s not able to do them yet.
So I decided to label those choices as “locked,” but looking back, that was a mistake. A lot of people didn’t get what it meant, and some even thought it was content only available for paying subscribers or something like that.
Sorry about the misunderstanding! For the next version, I’m planning to change “locked” to something like “Available in future updates” or something clearer.
I’m totally open to suggestions if you’ve got better ideas to make it!
TonyMurray
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Personally, I think any choice that presents a "locked" or similar text would suggest the same thing - it's paywalled. If it's "available in future updates", that suggests to me that if I play the game at a later date, this exact scene might have different outcomes available. That would theoretically mean there's either no point continuing at the moment, as the choice I might prefer is not currently implemented, or I'll just miss it because I'll continue playing, but then I'm not going to keep checking back to see if that one choice is now available - which will probably only show me a different scene there and then put me back in the same place I was after choosing the available option originally... Does that make sense?
What I actually understand from your explanation is that it's meant to show the sort of option she might make in a similar situation later in the game, when she's more corrupted/confident, but that she would only think about, and never do, in this exact scene. If I am correct, I would much prefer something that actually tells us that that, as "available in future updates" would be confusing (as above). For example, instead of saying it's locked (or similar), it just lists the options, but when you pick the "locked" option she has a thought process that says something like "Should I strip in front of him? No, I couldn't possibly do that... although it is an exciting idea. Maybe one day I'll be brave enough to try it..."
Either way, if the option is there and doesn't lead to what it says it will, you're probably going to piss some players off, so if doing it, it's about how to minimise that (and avoid confusing them in the process).
TonyMurray
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You've read the other guy's post, but you haven't read the dev's post two above yours, that gives the answer?This is too bad! The game gives us the option to choose but it is blocked! Why???
I gave it some thoughs, so here's a little idea to how to deal with this :
Since this type of choice that Sam can't make due to low corruption because she's not ready...
Sam have some inner though (more deep and elaborate than what's already here now), reflect as if it's a good choice or not. A little AngelSam pop on one of her shoulder, while a little DevilSam pop on the other, they whispers to her some good argument for suporting their view about the situation during this intense reflection moment. The little Angel and Devil have a catfight.
If the "wrong' choice is made and Sam isn't ready for it, the Angel slap the shit out of the Devil and whisper the good alternative, you get back to the menu and the "wrong" choice get greyed out.
If the choice is later on the story, she's corrupted enough, and you tried the bad choice for this type of event earlier, the DevilSam win the fight and you proceed.
Cons : Require more assets that you probably don't have
Yelow Submarine
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For starters, instead of having "locked" or any other note in brackets, you could just add a short segment of her having the thought process you described until ultimately deciding not to go through with it. Then there are multiple ways to approach it, depending on what you're planning those choices to do:
If it's just an extra scene with no long-term consequence, you can add a note telling the player to save the game for possible future changes. Having a replay gallery is also good for these situations.
If there is a long-term consequence, you can flag the choice as being made even if the scene isn't there yet. This way, players can keep playing and simply load whenever you implement the scene just to check it out without having to replay from that point.
If it's going to be a repeatable event where she'll eventually be ready to do that, then make it clear during her thought process with a "maybe next time" or something along those lines.
If it's an entire branching path, add a dev note explaining it's something you'll develop later.
Yelow Submarine
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Exactly! The idea of putting an option like "locked" confuses us. The game is fantastic! One idea would be to put, if possible, a meter to measure Sam's innocence level, like there is in many games, I can cite as an example the game "Eva's Ecstasy" where protagonist gains or loses innocence according to the player's choices and with that, some events are only unlocked if she is very naughty.
That's crazy because it's pretty clear if you give it some thoughts yourself.
But for that you have to read dialogs and not just skip everything to get to the juicy content.
By "you", I mean, everyone playing this game.
TonyMurray
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That doesn't explain the situation as the dev did though (thinking about doing it, but currently too innocent to actually do it), and having "locked" in the choice text adds to the confusion.
Can't deny it's confusing, I had to give it some thoughts... got it at the second locked choice.
If it was the first game made by Partedes that I'd played and haven't played lots of VN before, I'm pretty sure I'd have ended in the "WTF is this" team! XD